Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder News
From: Maggi Rackley <rackley@cdsnet.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 21:46:48 -0700
Lee M. Elder wrote: > > Hello Linda: > > I have a Directory of 91 names and 35 marriages with Mathew Elder > Son Robert Elder who m. Rebecca Robinson. Their daughter was Rebecca > Elder who married Daniel McCormack. > > Does this help anyone > Lee M. Elder email: elder@wcc.net Lee, I am searching for facts and info on Martha Ann Elder b.1823 > Andrew Elder > Matthew Elder > Andrew Elder b.1737-1745. Do any of these show up for in your information? Maggi Rackley
Subject: [Elder-News]: Announcements
From: Donna Logan <fanfare@intrepid.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 21:35:50 -0500
Happy Valentine's Day! Next: the new SPAM PREVENTION system is WORKING! Over the past week I have gotten no less that 4 SPAM e-mails (the most recent was selling "How to Spam Lists" software!!! geez) Fortunately they only hit MY mailbox and not the whole list so that's great news for all of us. ALSO: 1) I have posted all the Sharing List postings through today. http://www.intrepid.net/genealogy/elder/sharing As I put these together, I realized how critically important it is to put something APPROPRIATE in the SUBJECT LINE of postings to the list. If you will take a look at the new Archive of postings you will see that they are now listed by SUBJECT with a link to the relevant message below. Check it out (especially the 1998 ones) and you'll see what I mean. If you don't grab the viewers interest in the SUBJECT LINE they will probably overlook your message. Don't put something like "My Elder Family" in your Subject line, use something that will catch the eye of a fellow cousin. Such as the person's first name, dates of interest, and areas you are searching (at least the State) For Example: John Elder, 1800s, TN Michael Elder, 1850s, Baltimore Co, MD 2) THE USUAL REMINDER <grin>... our list defaults to REPLY TO the entire list [If you choose REPLY in your email program your reply will be sent to the list.] If you would prefer to reply to one person, such as a THANK YOU for posting something of interest to you, please remember to put the individual person's email address in the TO: section of your reply. Our list is generating a lot of email, and I am pleased about the activity. But this volume of activity makes it doubly important to be sure your posting is of some general interest to the group. 3) I sure hope more of you will post some of the individual research you have done. Have you ever inventoried the entire Marriage Index for county in Ohio or Tennessee? Have you got all the Elders listed in the 1850 census for Clearfield County, PA? Items like these can be invaluable to researchers.
Subject: [Elder-News]: Genealogy Chat on the Internet - GENEALOGY FORUM
From: Donna Logan <fanfare@intrepid.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 21:45:02 -0500
I know many of our list members are new to the Internet and Internet-genealogy. So I thought I would pass along the following from GENEALOGY FORUM. If you haven't tried Genealogy-related Chat groups you'll find this site helpful and instructional. ********** If you have not yet taken advantage of using IRC (Internet Relay Chat) to help with your research, you are missing out on a GREAT resource! The Genealogy Channels on IRC are the Genealogy Societies of the CyberWorld. We share resources, do lookups for each other, help each other with our webpages, recommend helpful websites and have a wonderful time doing it! We designed our website with the NEW IRCer in mind. You will find MUCH to help you get started! IMPORTANT NEWS FLASH! Late Breaking Genealogy News with links to Logs from recent meetings with Cyndi Howells of Cyndi's Sites and Paul Burchfield, Tech Support for Family Tree Maker YOUR IRC EXPERIENCE What It Can and Can't Do for You: If you wonder what 'chatting' is all about, be sure to read this page. HOW TO JOIN IRC Step by Step Instructions: on where and how to download the IRC software Including AOL and WebTV HOW TO USE MIRC Step by Step Instructions: After you are connected to IRC you will find the setup form many great features of MIRC LOOK FOR YOUR ANCESTORS Searchable Index of Surnames of Our Guests (over 120 of our guests have their surnames posted here) LOOKUPS on #GENEALOGY FORUM Sharing Our Resources: A guide to the people to watch for in our channel with the resource you need access to. GENEALOGY FOR KIDS 9 TO 90 How to Begin to Grow Your Tree: Link to Present^'s page giving basic start up instructions. How to Write Your Family History: Link to Dorian's page giving tips on writing about your ancestors. #GENEALOGYFORUM Announcements and Our Agenda: Tell what we are 'about' and describes the meetings that we have. OTHER GENEALOGY CHANNELS ON IRC Their Servers and Their Webpages: If you know of a Channel or Channel page not listed on this page please send the information to: pscobb@mailhost.iamerica.net http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/index.htm >From #GenealogyForum IRC Channel on Afternet: server twolf.afternet.org "Looking for YOUR Ancestors?" Need Simple mIRC instructions? Check our Webpage to Find 'em! http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/index.htm email: pscobb@mailhost.iamerica.net
Subject: [Elder-News]: Samuel ELDER, TN, William ELDER, Moultrie Co, IL
From: Donna Logan <fanfare@intrepid.net>
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 21:46:32 -0500
"Descendants of Samuel Elder (Died about 1811) And His Son William Elder (Died in 1823) Who Settled in Moultrie County, Illinois", published 1990, by Warner Davis. In 1996 the author, Warner Davis, passed away, and Ken Parent (Member #70) inherited all of his papers including the manuscript for the above book. Ken was an integral part of the work that went into the original publication. Today I received a note from Ken that he has published a second edition of the book. He has updated the text where new research warranted, made the maps and photos clearer and fleshed out vital statistics where available. The book has long been out of print and unavailable so I am quite pleased that Ken has taken on this special offering. It is spiral-bound and 88 pages and the cost is (not-for-profit) $20 postage-paid. If you are working on this line be sure to contact Ken at the address below: Kenneth W. Parent 768 North Vermont St Arlington VA 22203-2022 [no email] Happy Hunting donna
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Announcements
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 22:13:46 -0500
Thank you & Happy Valentine's Day to you Donna, Ann -----Original Message----- From: Donna Logan <fanfare@intrepid.net> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 10:08 PM Subject: [Elder-News]: Announcements >Happy Valentine's Day! >Next: the new SPAM PREVENTION system is WORKING! Over the past week I have gotten no less that 4 SPAM e-mails (the most recent was selling "How to Spam Lists" software!!! geez) Fortunately they only hit MY mailbox and not the whole list so that's great news for all of us. > >ALSO: > >1) I have posted all the Sharing List postings through today. > > http://www.intrepid.net/genealogy/elder/sharing > >As I put these together, I realized how critically important it is to put something APPROPRIATE in the SUBJECT LINE of postings to the list. If you will take a look at the new Archive of postings you will see that they are now listed by SUBJECT with a link to the relevant message below. Check it out (especially the 1998 ones) and you'll see what I mean. If you don't grab the viewers interest in the SUBJECT LINE they will probably overlook your message. Don't put something like "My Elder Family" in your Subject line, use something that will catch the eye of a fellow cousin. Such as the person's first name, dates of interest, and areas you are searching (at least the State) >For Example: >John Elder, 1800s, TN >Michael Elder, 1850s, Baltimore Co, MD > >2) THE USUAL REMINDER <grin>... our list defaults to REPLY TO the entire list [If you choose REPLY in your email program your reply will be sent to the list.] If you would prefer to reply to one person, such as a THANK YOU for posting something of interest to you, please remember to put the individual person's email address in the TO: section of your reply. Our list is generating a lot of email, and I am pleased about the activity. But this volume of activity makes it doubly important to be sure your posting is of some general interest to the group. > >3) I sure hope more of you will post some of the individual research you have done. Have you ever inventoried the entire Marriage Index for county in Ohio or Tennessee? Have you got all the Elders listed in the 1850 census for Clearfield County, PA? Items like these can be invaluable to researchers. > > >
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Samuel ELDER, TN, William ELDER, Moultrie Co, IL
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 23:25:12 -0500
Hi Donna, Thank you for the information about Kenneth Parent. Joanne Andrews wife of Bill Andrews contacted me just about six weeks ago, I was stunned. Warner and I had contact when necessary and we both were able to furnish help to each other, I thought a lot of Warner, I've missed him and each and everyday I planned to drop him just a note, which we did usually did just a note to say, "I will write soon, sorry I've been so neglectful." He was so honest, kind and caring. It made me so very sad, I've seen several of our very best die in the last few years, they left much, they gave so much. You know that Warner gave his books as gifts to his "kin"...we found his direct ancestor to William Elder, who was James Elder had left a will that Warner did not know of, he certainly knew everything else, I had been told from a lady in Sullivan about Box 26 in the Moultrie Co IL Courthouse, we found the will of Samuel Elder son of Samuel Elder & Hannah _______. Donna I believe she may have been a Bryan, part of Samuel's will was left off, the Bryans withdrew as executors of the estate of Samuel Elder (sr). I wish we could do something to distinguish Warner as one who had given so much. This has not been as easy family, and so much more to go. I think I know Ken Parent, he hired a company or group in Salt Lake City to do his Elder's. Warner told me and I wrote them to offer the information for Ken (if he is the same one), they would not allow contact, Ken called me once and was very nice but he (if same Ken) went on the this genealogy group in SLC. At that time they were ever so wrong. I gave them information they asked for, until the last when they wanted me to mail them everything I had and they would copy, my "offense button" went off, I told them that two large file cabinets, and one small one, plus boxes, plus a house full of papers (I still cannot control) was not possible. I thank you, I will write him tonight, I hope he has it in order now. I wonder why Bill Andrews did not do this, he is also an Elder, very close to Warner both he and his wife Joanne went to college together, were in the service together. Could we do anything? Thank you so much, Ann -----Original Message----- From: Donna Logan <fanfare@intrepid.net> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 10:44 PM Subject: [Elder-News]: Samuel ELDER, TN, William ELDER, Moultrie Co, IL >"Descendants of Samuel Elder (Died about 1811) And His Son William Elder (Died in 1823) Who Settled in Moultrie County, Illinois", published 1990, by Warner Davis. > >In 1996 the author, Warner Davis, passed away, and Ken Parent (Member #70) inherited all of his papers including the manuscript for the above book. Ken was an integral part of the work that went into the original publication. Today I received a note from Ken that he has published a second edition of the book. He has updated the text where new research warranted, made the maps and photos clearer and fleshed out vital statistics where available. > >The book has long been out of print and unavailable so I am quite pleased that Ken has taken on this special offering. It is spiral-bound and 88 pages and the cost is (not-for-profit) $20 postage-paid. If you are working on this line be sure to contact Ken at the address below: > >Kenneth W. Parent >768 North Vermont St >Arlington VA 22203-2022 >[no email] > >Happy Hunting >donna > > >
Subject: [Elder-News]: Census Index, 1850, Georgia
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 19:25:20 -0500
Name County page A. S. ELDER Bibb 161 A. J. ELDER Bibb 141 A. J. ELDER Bibb 141 (duplicate) Ashing B. ELDER Clarke 080 Charles ELDER Monroe 075 Chesbuy ELDER Murray 225 David ELDER Fayette 052 David ELDER Clarke 080 David ELDER Butts 338 David R. ELDER Clarke 074 David Y. ELDER Morgan 111 Doctor W. ELDER Clarke 080 Edward ELDER Clarke 079 Edward A. ELDER Jasper 088 Edward G. ELDER Clarke 065 Elijah ELDER Chatham 355 Eliza ELDER Morgan 136 George ELDER Talbot 244 Howell ELDER Fayette 004 James D. ELDER Butts 350 Jeremiah ELDER Cobb 171 John P. ELDER Clarke 076 John S. ELDER Clarke 077 John S. ELDER Clarke 071 John W. ELDER Clarke 078 John W. ELDER Pike 170 Joseph ELDER Clarke 076 Joshua ELDER Fayette 005 Joshua ELDER Henry 221 Joshua P. ELDER Clarke 065 Josiah H. ELDER Fayette 005 Pamelia ELDER Clarke 065 Philip T. ELDER Clarke 079 Pinkney ELDER Murray 236 Porthenia ELDER Gilmer 350 Rebecca ELDEER Coweta 302 Richard S. ELDER Murray 236 Samuel E. ELDER Fayette 005 Sarah ELDER Clarke 080 Sterling ELDER Fayette 005 Thomas ELDER Clarke 076 Thomas G. ELDER Clarke 074 Thomas P. ELDER Clarke 073 W. H. ELDER Pike 170 W. M. ELDER Heard 169 William ELDER Butts 351 William G. ELDER Clarke 061 William H. ELDER Coweta 303 Willis ELDER Habersham 246 Benjamin ELDERS Gilmer 428 Susan ELDERS Gilmer 429 Thomas ELDERS Gilmer 425 William A. ELDERS Butts 364 L. B. ELDOR Muscogee 359 (This is Littleberry ELDER) NOTE: Most of the ELDERS above do not have (S) on them. It is just the style of writing of the enumerater. (jpg) Index from Accelerated Indexing Systems, Bountiful, Utah _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Subject: [Elder-News]: Tennessee Elders
From: Martha Kidwell <kidwelml@bellsouth.net>
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 21:08:31 -0400
The following article appeared in the Chattanooga News Free Press, February 8, 1998: Elders Knew Davy Crockett, Moved To Ooltewah In 1835 The Elders were among Tennessee's earliest pioneers and were well acquainted with Davy Crockett. John Elder and his nephew, Robert S. Elder, made their way to Hamilton county at an early date. The family traces back to Samuel Elder, who in April 1796 paid $200 for 150 acres in the "County of Greene, Territory of the United States of America South of the River Ohio." This property at the head of Sinking Creek was sold four years later for $333 as the Elders moved from Greene County to Sevier County. Davy Crockett wrote in his autobiography that he had known the Elders "when very young. They had lived in the same neighborhood with me, and I had thought very well of them." He said the family "had very pretty little girls." The daughters of Samuel Elder and his wife, Hannah, included Esther who married Michael Widner. Margaret is believed to be another daughter. Davy Crockett was preparing to marry Margaret Elder in the latter part of 1805, but she backed out on this contract. Margaret Elder in 1829 was dismissed by the Baptists for joining the Methodists. The Elders attended Dumplin Baptist Church near Dandridge in Jefferson County. After some of the family moved to Meigs County, they helped to organize Goodfield Baptist Church. Samuel Elder died in 1811. He left Hannah "the plantation that I now live on and all the household furniture and three negroes and one bay mare and colt and all the cattle and hogs and all the farming utensils." Hannah married James Moore in 1814 and she lived until 1829. The Samuel Elder sons were Robert, William who married Rebecca Cate, Jacob, Samuel, John S. who married Nancy Sullins, and Andrew. John S. Elder was commissionied a lieutenant in the 11th Regiment of the Tennessee Militia in 1808. He owned property in Sevier and Jefferson counties and he acquired " a negro girl named Sishe" for $275 while in the latter county. John Elder was often a delegate for Dumplin Baptist Church to associate meetings, but he and his wife were granted letters of dismission by the church on Sept. 12, 1835, as they moved to Hamilton County near Ooltewah. John and Nancy Elder apparently died during the 1840's. Their son, John C. Elder, married Amanda. They later moved to Texas, then Amanda was at Montgomery County, Ark., in 1880 with her son, John S. who married Zilpha Cordelia Whittington. Other children of John and Amanda were Mary, Elizabeth and Joseph C. who married Rosanna M. Williamson. Robert Elder, who was born in Virginia about 1782, made his way to Jefferson County and on to Rhea in the section that was taken off Meigs County. He married Sarah Moore at Jefferson County in 1802. In 1811, Robert Elder was appointed captain of the Sixth Regiment of the Tennessee Militia. He acquired 160 acres for $3.36 per acre in Rhea County in 1820. By 1825, he had added another 728 acres to his holdings. The Robert Elder home was one of two sites designated in 1826 by the Rhea County Court for the holding of elections on the south side of the Tennessee River. Robert Elder was a trustee for the Decatur Academy. He had 1,184 acres and 12 slaves by 1840. Two years earlier, he had been released from a double tax on his "pleasure carriage." Sarah Moore Elder died in 1840. Robert Elder took Mrs. Mary Witt as his second wife. They were married in 1841 when he was 59 and she was 32. Robert Elder at one time had 18 slaves, but that number was decreased as he sold off some of his land. Many of the slaves attended Goodfield Baptist Church, and it was remarked that in the effor to convert the slaves "Brother Robert Elder inspired the most confidence in his black associates." Robert died in 1863 in the midst of the Civil War and Mary died in 1866. The Robert Elder children included Ava who married Daniel Cate, James who married Sarah Womack and then Mrs. Mary White, John Moore who married Mary Ann Vernon, Nancy who married William Lilliard, Robert S., Hannah who died when she was 22, Sarah J. who married the Cherokee removal soldier George W. Housley Jr., William b. who married Mary Keenum, Mary who married James H. Newkir, Louisa J., Mahala who married John Boyd Porter, Clarissa who married James W. Grisham, Amanda Jane who married Nicholas Gibbs Moore, Martha, Mary Crator who married Daniel Morgan, and Margaret. The Housleys moved to the section near Ooltewah along with Robert S. Elder. He had married Minerva Wright in 1834, then Nancy Lucas in 1836. His third wife was Matilda Jane Oldham. Robert S., who was born in 1812, had acquired 160 acres in Meigs County by 1836, then he moved near the site where Wolftever and Long Savannah creeks merge. By the time of the Civil War, his holdings were worth $13,000 and he had six slaves. He donated 3.5 acres to the Long Savannah Academy, where he and George Housley were trustees. Savannah Methodist Church was built at the academy site. Robert S. Elder was buried at The Elder Cemetery at his farm upon his death Sept. 21, 1868. Matilda died in 1875. The Housleys went to Montgomery County, Ark., after the war. The children of Robert S. Elder included Samuel Houston, Sarah Jane, Minerva Jane, Robert and James B. Sarah married Thomas Monger, a Unionist who was on the County Court. Minerva Jane married James Clifford Allen, who fought for the Union and was in the Legislature from Bradley County. Samuel H. married Sarah J. White. Their daughter, Mary A., married Aaron E. Smith. Samuel H. and his brother, Robert, had a "store boat" that made calls at the various river landings, and they also had a general store at Snow Hill. Samuel H. was a postmaster at Long Savannah. He died in 1910 of a heart attack while walking from Avondale to Snow Hill. Robert married Mary Jane Bettis in 1869, and Jame B. married Margaret E. Hall. Robert and James also had turns at the Long Savannah post office. Robert also was a photographer and James was in the rubber stamp business. Robert died in 1918 and James in 1933. Robert's children included Jennie Belle who married John Tinker. James William "Will" who married Mabel Nye. Minnie Mary who died when she was 11. Ona Griffin who married Lydie Ellen Pindell, Frederick Burch who married Clara Mae Atkins and then Hattie, and Grover Cleveland wh married May Phillips. Ona Griffin Elder was a linotype operator for 57 years for The Chattanooga Times. Lydie Pindell Elder was long active at the First Baptist Church. Burch Elder was 99 years old when he died in 1981. He was a member of Avondale Baptist Church for 61 years. His daughter Hilda married Charles R. Posey. Virginia Knight Nelson of Knoxville in 1986 completed a book on the Elders of East Tennessee. Ruth Edwards of Chattanooga had researched the family. This article is one in a series of PIONEER FAMILIES featured in the Free Press. My great grandparents were Minerva Jane Elder and James Clift Allen. I hope that this will be beneficial to someone. Martha Allen Kidwell
Subject: [Elder-News]: Re: [Elder-Byrdstown, TN, Robert Lee Elder brother of or son of John Morton Elder
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 21:48:26 -0500
Hi to All, I saw the name John Morton ELDER and it suddenly dawned on me, that here in this little office of mine I have several FGS from most gracious lady in Byrdstown, TN. The late Burl Underwood knew her and made the contact for me, I've been in most of your "trees" trying to find my very own. Along with John Morton Elder, a Robert Lee Elder, I think he died single...I will find it again in the near future, as I now have it all over the floor again. If you need it. Ann -----Original Message----- From: Bob and Diane Elder <elder@presys.com> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 1:25 AM Subject: [Elder-News]: Allen Elder >JIm, Here is the promised information of Allen Morgan Elder, son of >William/Billy and Martha/Patsy Elder. >Born March 4, 1824 in Overton County, Tennessee, he married Elizabeth J. >Proctor in 1865 in Talbot County, GA. He was a member of the Kentucky >Calvary. After his service he traveled south to Georgia and wed Miss >Proctor. I have no idea how he met her or exactly why he went to >Georgia. Allen and his brother, John Morton Elder lived in Albany, KY >(just across the border from TN) and operated a store there in 1850. >Allen and Elizabeth were parents of: >Willis, Anna, Bertha, Mattie, Gertrude, Zach, Bettie and Paul. These >were listed in the family in the 688 Militia District, Talbot County, GA >census taken on June 16, 1880. After that date Bertha was born for a >total of nine children. >They moved back to Tennessee after 1880 and there Allen died. He is >buried in the Government Cemetery near Byrdstown, TN. He died in >Pickett County, TN on January 10, 1898. >I have gathered this information from descendants, census records and >personal records. I have photographs of Allen's headstone. They are >not very good because the area was very shady both times I was there! >Elizabeth and some of the children moved to Texas after his death and >that is where she is buried. I believe in Karnes, County, TX. She died >after 1918. If you have any information to add to this, I will be glad >to get it. Also, any more information on this branch of the Elder >family. I do have birth dates for some of Allen's children and some of >their spouses. Thanks, Diane >
Subject: [Elder-News]: John Morton Elder
From: Bob and Diane Elder <elder@presys.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:08:23 -0800
The late Kendrick Elder gave me this information on John Morton Elder: During the Civil War, John operated a dry goods store with his brother Allen Elder in Albany, KY. A Confederate Guerrilla by the name of Champ Furgeson operated in the area and was the subject of a ceaseless manhunt by the Union Army until his eventual capture and hanging in Nashville. The story is told tha on one occasion Furgeson entered John Morton Elder's store in search of a hiding place as the "Yankees" were in hot pursuit. John Morton threw him into a bin holding goose down. This was a common item of barter in those days. Hidden by the goose down, Furgeson escaped detection by the Union soldiers who soon departed. Upon emerging from hid hiding place soon thereafter, Furgeson remarked to John that he had just as soon be killed by Yankee lead as to choke to death by inhaling goose feathers. Olive Harrison wed John Morton and they had three sons, Robert E., Stonewall Jackson and William Benjamin. Ben was a scholar and was Pickett County's first Superintendent of Schools. Robert E. married Ella Amonet and had several children. Stone was a bachelor. Diane
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Samuel ELDER, TN, William ELDER, Moultrie Co, IL
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:11:03 -0500
Donna, Thank you for this important and touching information. I switched names of brothers half way down, bless this tired brain. Many thanks, Ann -----Original Message----- From: elderbrooks <elderbrooks@msn.com> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Samuel ELDER, TN, William ELDER, Moultrie Co, IL >Hi Donna, >Thank you for the information about Kenneth Parent. Joanne Andrews wife of >Bill Andrews contacted me just about six weeks ago, I was stunned. Warner >and I had contact when necessary and we both were able to furnish help to >each other, I thought a lot of Warner, I've missed him and each and everyday >I planned to drop him just a note, which we did usually did just a note to >say, "I will write soon, sorry I've been so neglectful." He was so honest, >kind and caring. It made me so very sad, I've seen several of our very best >die in the last few years, they left much, they gave so much. You know that >Warner gave his books as gifts to his "kin"...we found his direct ancestor >to William Elder, who was James Elder had left a will that Warner did not >know of, he certainly knew everything else, I had been told from a lady in >Sullivan about Box 26 in the Moultrie Co IL Courthouse, we found the will of >Samuel Elder son of Samuel Elder & Hannah _______. Donna I believe she may >have been a Bryan, part of Samuel's will was left off, the Bryans withdrew >as executors of the estate of Samuel Elder (sr). I wish we could do >something to distinguish Warner as one who had given so much. This has not >been as easy family, and so much more to go. > >I think I know Ken Parent, he hired a company or group in Salt Lake City to >do his Elder's. Warner told me and I wrote them to offer the information >for Ken (if he is the same one), they would not allow contact, Ken called me >once and was very nice but he (if same Ken) went on the this genealogy group >in SLC. At that time they were ever so wrong. I gave them information they >asked for, until the last when they wanted me to mail them everything I had >and they would copy, my "offense button" went off, I told them that two >large file cabinets, and one small one, plus boxes, plus a house full of >papers (I still cannot control) was not possible. I thank you, I will write >him tonight, I hope he has it in order now. I wonder why Bill Andrews did >not do this, he is also an Elder, very close to Warner both he and his wife >Joanne went to college together, were in the service together. > >Could we do anything? > >Thank you so much, > >Ann >-----Original Message----- >From: Donna Logan <fanfare@intrepid.net> >To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> >Date: Saturday, February 14, 1998 10:44 PM >Subject: [Elder-News]: Samuel ELDER, TN, William ELDER, Moultrie Co, IL > > >>"Descendants of Samuel Elder (Died about 1811) And His Son William Elder >(Died in 1823) Who Settled in Moultrie County, Illinois", published 1990, by >Warner Davis. >> >>In 1996 the author, Warner Davis, passed away, and Ken Parent (Member #70) >inherited all of his papers including the manuscript for the above book. >Ken was an integral part of the work that went into the original >publication. Today I received a note from Ken that he has published a >second edition of the book. He has updated the text where new research >warranted, made the maps and photos clearer and fleshed out vital statistics >where available. >> >>The book has long been out of print and unavailable so I am quite pleased >that Ken has taken on this special offering. It is spiral-bound and 88 >pages and the cost is (not-for-profit) $20 postage-paid. If you are working >on this line be sure to contact Ken at the address below: >> >>Kenneth W. Parent >>768 North Vermont St >>Arlington VA 22203-2022 >>[no email] >> >>Happy Hunting >>donna >> >> >> > > > > >
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: John Morton Elder
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 22:13:38 -0500
Hi all, the information from Bob and Diane Elder are the same names on the FGS, which I really will find this week...I spelled Ella Amonet wrong, but these are the ones...Ann -----Original Message----- From: Bob and Diane Elder <elder@presys.com> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Monday, February 16, 1998 2:21 PM Subject: [Elder-News]: John Morton Elder >The late Kendrick Elder gave me this information on John Morton Elder: >During the Civil War, John operated a dry goods store with his brother >Allen Elder in Albany, KY. A Confederate Guerrilla by the name of Champ >Furgeson operated in the area and was the subject of a ceaseless manhunt >by the Union Army until his eventual capture and hanging in Nashville. >The story is told tha on one occasion Furgeson entered John Morton >Elder's store in search of a hiding place as the "Yankees" were in hot >pursuit. John Morton threw him into a bin holding goose down. This was >a common item of barter in those days. Hidden by the goose down, >Furgeson escaped detection by the Union soldiers who soon departed. >Upon emerging from hid hiding place soon thereafter, Furgeson remarked >to John that he had just as soon be killed by Yankee lead as to choke to >death by inhaling goose feathers. >Olive Harrison wed John Morton and they had three sons, Robert E., >Stonewall Jackson and William Benjamin. Ben was a scholar and was >Pickett County's first Superintendent of Schools. >Robert E. married Ella Amonet and had several children. Stone was a >bachelor. >Diane >
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Announcements
From: RElder1922@aol.com
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 22:32:33 EST
tried to get the Elder Sharing List Website and reply came back, NOT FOUND. How come?
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Genealogy Chat on the Internet - GENEALOGY FORUM
From: RElder1922@aol.com
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 22:43:52 EST
reguested URL not found HTTP statis code 404. another website that can't be obtained. how come?
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: can't get to requested pages
From: Donna Logan <fanfare@intrepid.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 11:14:47 -0500
Hi Robert, I'm not sure what the problem is, Robert, but I'll offer a second option for a page to try to get to - try adding index.html to the end of it. (see below) One problem might be that it is in FRAMES. Does your AOL web browser understand frames? In other words can you look at framed pages? That might be the problem???? but I am not sure. I hope you'll try again, and let me know if you still have problems because if the frames are the problem I can make a second copy of them that are non-framed pages. Is anyone else having a problem getting to these pages???? hope you'll all let me know if you are so I can fix this. I sure wouldn't want any part of our Elder site to be unavailable to folks no matter what browser they are using. This is the only page where I have used frames and did so only because the volume of material is so huge and navigating it seemed easier in frames. Anyway, please let me know if you have problems too! The second address for pscobb's GENEALOGY FORUM is not in frames so I haven't a clue why that page didn't come up for you - but give it another try and see if there is still a problem. THANKS! donna > tried to get the Elder Sharing List Website and reply came back, NOT FOUND. > How come? http://www.intrepid.net/genealogy/elder/sharing/ http://www.intrepid.net/genealogy/elder/sharing/index.html At 10:43 PM -0500 2/16/98, you wrote: > reguested URL not found HTTP statis code 404. > another website that can't be obtained. how come? http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/index.htm
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: can't get to requested pages
From: "James C. Elder" <jcelder@mho.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:12:15 -0800
Donna...and all... I have had no problem getting through to any of the sites indicated by your links in this and in the previous message. I'm using a regular modem 28.8Kbps connection to an independent Internet Service Provider (ISP). FYI, I've noted that America Online seems to be slower than desirable as of late, and that's just for getting logged on, getting past all their SPAM advertising, and checking AOL mail (which is always full of SPAM solicitations). If someone is using AOL as their link to the WWW, it is reasonable to expect that this slowdown on AOL will adversely affect the ability to surf the web. Quite likely, the web browser is timing out before it can get through the various server computer connections to reach the web site being pointed to. This will result in the 404 error. The 404 error can also result from trying to access a server which is temporarily out of service...down for maintenance, responding to its maximum number of requests at that time, or intervening servers being too busy to handle the new request at that time...or because the link is defective. We know that the link is NOT defective, in this case. Assuming that everything else is OK, patience and persistence will eventually get a user past the 404 error...they'll hit a free spot in the bitstream, connect with the web site, and see the page. So, don't give up, or think your links or machine aren't working right...just try again, and again, and again...you'll get there. Jim Elder -----Original Message----- From: Donna Logan <fanfare@intrepid.net> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 1998 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: can't get to requested pages >Hi Robert, > >I'm not sure what the problem is, Robert, but I'll offer a second option for a page to try to get to - try adding index.html to the end of it. (see below) > >One problem might be that it is in FRAMES. Does your AOL web browser understand frames? In other words can you look at framed pages? That might be the problem???? but I am not sure. > >I hope you'll try again, and let me know if you still have problems because if the frames are the problem I can make a second copy of them that are non-framed pages. > >Is anyone else having a problem getting to these pages???? hope you'll all let me know if you are so I can fix this. I sure wouldn't want any part of our Elder site to be unavailable to folks no matter what browser they are using. > >This is the only page where I have used frames and did so only because the volume of material is so huge and navigating it seemed easier in frames. Anyway, please let me know if you have problems too! > >The second address for pscobb's GENEALOGY FORUM is not in frames so I haven't a clue why that page didn't come up for you - but give it another try and see if there is still a problem. > >THANKS! donna > >> tried to get the Elder Sharing List Website and reply came back, NOT FOUND. >> How come? > >http://www.intrepid.net/genealogy/elder/sharing/ > >http://www.intrepid.net/genealogy/elder/sharing/index.html > > >At 10:43 PM -0500 2/16/98, you wrote: > >> reguested URL not found HTTP statis code 404. >> another website that can't be obtained. how come? > >http://cust2.iamerica.net/pscobb/index.htm > >
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Census Index, 1850, Georgia
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 21:10:47 -0500
To All and to Jim, thank you, I already found one name. An -----Original Message----- From: jpgolden@juno.com <jpgolden@juno.com> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Sunday, February 15, 1998 10:52 PM Subject: [Elder-News]: Census Index, 1850, Georgia >Name County page >A. S. ELDER Bibb 161 >A. J. ELDER Bibb 141 >A. J. ELDER Bibb 141 (duplicate) >Ashing B. ELDER Clarke 080 >Charles ELDER Monroe 075 >Chesbuy ELDER Murray 225 >David ELDER Fayette 052 >David ELDER Clarke 080 >David ELDER Butts 338 >David R. ELDER Clarke 074 >David Y. ELDER Morgan 111 >Doctor W. ELDER Clarke 080 >Edward ELDER Clarke 079 >Edward A. ELDER Jasper 088 >Edward G. ELDER Clarke 065 >Elijah ELDER Chatham 355 >Eliza ELDER Morgan 136 >George ELDER Talbot 244 >Howell ELDER Fayette 004 >James D. ELDER Butts 350 >Jeremiah ELDER Cobb 171 >John P. ELDER Clarke 076 >John S. ELDER Clarke 077 >John S. ELDER Clarke 071 >John W. ELDER Clarke 078 >John W. ELDER Pike 170 >Joseph ELDER Clarke 076 >Joshua ELDER Fayette 005 >Joshua ELDER Henry 221 >Joshua P. ELDER Clarke 065 >Josiah H. ELDER Fayette 005 >Pamelia ELDER Clarke 065 >Philip T. ELDER Clarke 079 >Pinkney ELDER Murray 236 >Porthenia ELDER Gilmer 350 >Rebecca ELDEER Coweta 302 >Richard S. ELDER Murray 236 >Samuel E. ELDER Fayette 005 >Sarah ELDER Clarke 080 >Sterling ELDER Fayette 005 >Thomas ELDER Clarke 076 >Thomas G. ELDER Clarke 074 >Thomas P. ELDER Clarke 073 >W. H. ELDER Pike 170 >W. M. ELDER Heard 169 >William ELDER Butts 351 >William G. ELDER Clarke 061 >William H. ELDER Coweta 303 >Willis ELDER Habersham 246 >Benjamin ELDERS Gilmer 428 >Susan ELDERS Gilmer 429 >Thomas ELDERS Gilmer 425 >William A. ELDERS Butts 364 >L. B. ELDOR Muscogee 359 (This is Littleberry >ELDER) >NOTE: Most of the ELDERS above do not have (S) on them. It is just the >style of writing of the enumerater. (jpg) > >Index from Accelerated Indexing Systems, Bountiful, Utah > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder Research
From: "Lee M. Elder" <elder@wcc.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 20:03:58 -0800
Hi Ben & Peg: I have a Samuel B. Elder, Sr. b. 08-06-1738 in VA d.1797 in SC. His wife was Patience _______ Children: Hannah Elder, Sr. Samuel B. Elder, Jr. Catherine Elder Lucy Elder Samuel B. Elder, Sr. second wife was Anne and I don't have any children listed for them. Is this what you need. let me know.
Subject: [Elder-News]: Census Index Georgia 1840
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 08:36:23 -0500
A. L. ELDER Monroe 197 B. R. ELDER Harris 276 C. C. ELDER Monroe 155 D. ELDER Butts 176 David ELDER Clarke 234 Doctor W. ELDER Clarke 234 Edmond ELDER Clarke 233 Edmond ELDER Newton 019 Elijah ELDER Chatham 156 George ELDER Talbot 198 Hartwell ELDER Clarke 231 J. H. ELDER Fayette 235 James ELDER Newton 019 John ELDER Clarke 234 Joseph ELDER Clarke 234 Joshua ELDER Henry 323 Joshua ELDER Coweta 336 Joshua ELDER Fayette 221 Parker ELDER Clarke 231 Persy ELDER Harris 281 Phillup ELDER Clarke 233 Rebeca ELDER Coweta 342 Sterling ELDER Fayette 212 Thomas ELDER Clarke 200 W. M. G. ELDER Harris 268 William ELDER Harris 279 Jeremiah ELDERS Liberty 201 Joseph ELDERS Clarke 234 Extracted from: Accelerated Indexing Systems, Inc. Bountiful, Utah jpg _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Subject: [Elder-News]: Census Index, Georgia - 1830
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 08:46:04 -0500
Ann ELDER Clarke 298 David ELDER Clarke 302 David ELDER Jr Clarke 317 Doctor W. ELDER Clarke 302 Edmonds ELDER Clarke 304 Edmund ELDER Walton 158 Edward A. ELDER Monroe 215 Harison W. ELDER Clarke 304 Hartwell M. ELDER Clarke 304 Howell ELDER Clarke 291 James P. ELDER Clarke 302 Jeremiah ELDER Oglethrp 068 John P. ELDER Clarke 304 Joseph ELDER Clarke 316 Joseph M. ELDER Clarke 316 Joshua ELDER Clarke 302 Joshua ELDER Fayette 205 Littleberry ELDER Harris 183 Thomas ELDER Clarke 304 Wyck W.J. ELDER Pike 127 Indes to the 1830 Census of Georgia Published by: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc Baltimore, MD jpg _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Subject: [Elder-News]: Re: Elder Manuscripts in Pa. State Archives
From: LEW1991@aol.com
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:40:03 EST
Manuscript Collection, Pa. State Archives #45:
MG-45
ELDER FAMILY COLLECTION
1786-1850
5 cu. ft.
These are papers concerning the Elder family of Dauphin County. Featured are
correspondence and legal papers of Thomas Elder
(b. 1767, d. 1853), who served in Captain Dentzel's Company during the Whiskey
Insurrection, practiced law in Dauphin County
from 1791, and held the post of attorney general of Pennsylvania from 1820-23.
Other family members represented are Joshua
Elder (b. 1744/45, d. 1820) and Samuel Elder (b. 1772, d. 1815), high sheriff
of Dauphin County from 1800-1803. Included are
business, land, and legal records involving Alexander Berryhill, Henry
Buehler, William Buehler, Simon Cameron, Thomas Forster,
John GLoninger, William Graydon, Jacob Greenawalt, John A. Hanna, Robert
Harris, John Joseph Henry, Gabriel Hiester, John
Kelker, William Kelso, John Kerlin, William Maclay, Abraham Wickersham, etc.
Considerable material relates to the Harrisburg
and Presque Isle Land Company.
******************
Also: Manuscript Collection #8: Pennsylvania Collection (Misc.)
Letters from: Isaac D. Barnard to Thomas Elder, 1826; Thomas Elder to George
Bryan, 1821.
******************
PA State Archive URL: http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/
Enjoy!
Linda Winkler
Subject: [Elder-News]: Some Ohio Elder death notices
From: Judy Marie Rais <twostep@fuse.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 15:11:27 -0800
I came across some Elder death notices that do not link with my ELDERS. Hope they are useful to someone out there. ELDER-Anna (nee Fortmann), beloved wife of Frank Elder, Friday, May 1, l914 at 8:30 pm at residence, 2136 Hatmaker St (Cinti., Oh), aged 27 years. Funeral Monday, May 4, at 2pm, Friends invited. ELDER-Richard, Friday, June 26, l914 at 6:30am aged 39 years. Remains at the Busse & Borgmann Company's chapel. 2 Cincinnatians Die in crash in Marion Ohio Two Cincinnatians were killed and three others injured Saturday (7-9-55) when the car in which the were riding went out of control and hit a tree near Marion, Oh. The dead are identified as Mrs Jessie Maul, 50 and WILLIAM ELDER 50, both of 417 Carlisle Ave. They were on their way to Marion, Oh for the weekend. ELDER, Clyde- Clyde Elder, a Linotype operator for the Cinti Post and Times-Star for 25 years before he retired last October, died Wednesday 7-15-1959 in his room in the Earle Hotel. Mr Elder was known as "Ducky" to his fellow workers, because of admiration for the former professional baseball player, Ducky Medwick. Mr. Elder stored volumes of baseball statistics in his memory and often amused listeners by reeling off batting and fielding averages. His other hobby was Texas history and he had a great store of stories about famous Texans. He was a veteran of WWI and a 40-year member of the International Typographical Union. Mr Elder 65, was a native of Austin, Texas. He leaves a brother J. William in austin. The funeral will be held in Austin. ELDER, Irma M. (nee Ulrich), wife of the late Clarence D. Elder, dear mother of Judith L. Johns and Jane E. Cox, grandmother of Charles Gregory Cox, Kurt T. Johns, Kim S. (vince) Schubert and Karen E. (Charles) Berger, great-grandmother of Erin L and Lainie E. Schubert and Mason J. Berger. Feb 7, 1998. Residence Mt. Washington. Service at Christ Church Cathedral Centennial Chapel, 4th and Sycamore Sts. on Saturday, Feb 14 at 10am. TP White & Sons Funeral Home serving the family. Memorials to Christ Church Music Department or Arthritis Foundations.
Subject: [Elder-News]: Ohio Death notice
From: Judy Marie Rais <twostep@fuse.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 15:33:27 -0800
Oops forgot one. ELDER-Warren G. Beloved husband Lola Maihle Elder and father of Jane and John Douglas Elder. sunday, June 8, l958 residence, 3799 Millsbrae Ave. Services at the Witt, Good & Kelsch Funeral Home, 3026 Madison Rd. Hyde Park at Oakley Square, Wed June 11 at 10am. (Parkersburg W. Va papers please copy)
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re: Elder Manuscripts in Pa. State Archives
From: "James C. Elder" <jcelder@mho.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 20:51:10 -0800
Linda...and others... Has anyone looked into these papers to learn who the parents, etc., of Thomas were, and what were the relationships between Thomas, Joshua, and Samuel? If so, please let the rest of us know. Thanks, Jim Elder -----Original Message----- From: LEW1991@aol.com <LEW1991@aol.com> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 8:42 AM Subject: [Elder-News]: Re: Elder Manuscripts in Pa. State Archives >Manuscript Collection, Pa. State Archives #45: > > MG-45 > ELDER FAMILY COLLECTION > 1786-1850 > 5 cu. ft. > > > >These are papers concerning the Elder family of Dauphin County. Featured are >correspondence and legal papers of Thomas Elder >(b. 1767, d. 1853), who served in Captain Dentzel's Company during the Whiskey >Insurrection, practiced law in Dauphin County >from 1791, and held the post of attorney general of Pennsylvania from 1820-23. >Other family members represented are Joshua >Elder (b. 1744/45, d. 1820) and Samuel Elder (b. 1772, d. 1815), high sheriff >of Dauphin County from 1800-1803. Included are >business, land, and legal records involving Alexander Berryhill, Henry >Buehler, William Buehler, Simon Cameron, Thomas Forster, >John GLoninger, William Graydon, Jacob Greenawalt, John A. Hanna, Robert >Harris, John Joseph Henry, Gabriel Hiester, John >Kelker, William Kelso, John Kerlin, William Maclay, Abraham Wickersham, etc. >Considerable material relates to the Harrisburg >and Presque Isle Land Company. > >****************** >Also: Manuscript Collection #8: Pennsylvania Collection (Misc.) >Letters from: Isaac D. Barnard to Thomas Elder, 1826; Thomas Elder to George >Bryan, 1821. > >****************** > >PA State Archive URL: http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/ > >Enjoy! > >Linda Winkler >
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re: Elder Manuscripts in Pa. State Archives
From: LEW1991@aol.com
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 11:51:11 EST
Jim: I haven't looked into the papers at all...just found the listing on the web yesterday while reviewing the manuscript holdings of the Pa. archives. Linda
Subject: [Elder-News]: Chris Boyd <boydcm@tisd.net>: Poem
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 19:20:15 -0500
--------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: Chris Boyd <boydcm@tisd.net> To: clanboyd-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Poem Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 05:45:59 +0000 Message-ID: <34EFBB97.FCF@tisd.net> Hello Boyd's This poem was forwarded to the Crawford List by Wanda Tracy. I thought you all might enjoy it. Chris Boyd GRANDMA AND THE FAMILY TREE There's been a change in Grandma, we've noticed her of late. She's always reading history or jotting down some date. She's tracking back the family, we'll all have pedigrees. Oh, Grandma's got a hobby, she's climbing Family Trees. Poor Grandpa does the cooking and now, or so he states, That worst of all, he has to wash the cups and dinner plates. Grandma can't be bothered, she's busy as a bee Compiling genealogy - for the Family Tree. She goes down to the courthouse and studies ancient lore, We know more about our forebears than we ever knew before The books are old and dusty, they make poor Grandma sneeze, A minor irritation when your're climbing Family Trees. The mail is all for Grandma, it comes from near and far, Last week she got the proof she needs to join the DAR. A worthwile avocation, to that we all agree, A monumental project, to climb the Family Tree. Now some folks came from Scotland and some from Galway Bay, Some were French as pastry, some German, all the way. Some went on west to stake their claim, some stayed near by the sea, Grandma hopes to find them all as she climbs the Family Tree. She wanders through the graveyard in search of date or name, The rich, the poor, the in-between, all sleeping there the same. She pauses now and then to rest, fanned by a gentle breeze That blows above the Fathers of all our Family Trees. There were pioneers and patriots mixed in our kith and kin Who blazed the paths of wilderness and fought through thick and thin. But none more staunch than Grandma, whose eyes light up with glee Each time she finds a missing branch for the Family Tree. Their skills were wide and varied, from carpenter to cook And one, Alas!, the record shows was hopelessly a crook. Blacksmith, weaver, farmer, judge, some tutored for a fee, Long lost in time, now all recorded on the Family Tree. To some it's just a hobby, to Grandma it's much more, She knows the joys and heartaches of those who went before. They loved, they lost, they laughed, they wept, and now for you and me They live again in spirit, around the Family Tree. At last she's nearly finished and we are each exposed. Life will be the same again, this we all supposed! Grandma will cook and sew, serve cookies with our tea We'll all be fat, just as before that wretched Family Tree. Sad to relate, the Preacher called and visited for a spell, We talked about the Gospel, and other things as well. The heathen folk, the poor and then - 'twas fate, it had to be, Somehow the conversation turned to Grandma and the Family Tree. We tried to change the subject, we talked of everthing But then in Grandma's voice we heard that old familiar ring. She told him all about the past and soon was plain to see The preacher, too, was nearly snared by Grandma and the Family Tree. He never knew his Grandpa, his mother's name was ... Clark? He and Grandma talked and talked, outside it grew quite dark. We'd hoped our fears were groundless, but just like some disease, Grandma's become an addict -she's hooked on Family Trees! Our souls were filled with sorrow, our hearts sank with dismay, Our ears could scarce believe the words we heard our Grandma say, "It sure is a lucky thing that you have come to me, I know exactly how it's done, I'll climb your Family Tree!" Author unknown --------- End forwarded message ---------- _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re: Elder Manuscripts in Pa. State Archives
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:08:05 -0500
Hi, Jim asked the question about Elder Manuscripts in PA State Archives after I started this note I realized that the PA Archives is in Harrisburg. I have a sister outside of Philadelphia she could call and find out if it was, although she is not at all about to do any research she waits for me to give her the family news. Knowing she would go for the information if obtainable, such as to pick up and mail. Are these manuscripts allowed to be copied, are they huge and impossible? I really would like to know what is in them? I think your speaking of the Paxtang Elder's, located about five miles north of Harrisburgh I just happen to have brought the PA file along tonight, I am trying to downsize. I have the HISTORY OF THE COUNTIES OF DAUPHIN AND LEBANON IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA BIROGRAPHICAL AND GENEALOGICAL, by William Henry Egle, MD, MA, 1883. One quick look: Jacob Elder eldest son of John Elder and Elizabeth Awl and grandson of Rev John Elder. In 1815 he commenced the publication of the Dauphin Guardian. (all of the above is quoted from the book)aebp Col Joshua Elder (here is a Joshua, Jim), Col Robert Elder eldest son of Rev John Elder and Mary Baker; he married (2) Mary J. Thompson of Derry, she was b. Oct 19 1750, d Aug 18, 1813. John Elder, Jr. of Rev John Elder and Mary Simpson (second wife) was born Aug 3, 1757 in Paxtang. Samuel Elder son of Rev John Elder and Mary Simpson b. Feb 27, 1772 in Paxtang. Rev John Elder - much to long. Thomas Elder - son of Rev John Elder of Paxtang and Mary Simpson. (p. 482, 483, 484) information all from the above named source. Ann elderbrooks@msn.com -----Original Message----- From: James C. Elder <jcelder@mho.net> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re: Elder Manuscripts in Pa. State Archives >Linda...and others... > >Has anyone looked into these papers to learn who the parents, etc., of >Thomas were, and what were the relationships between Thomas, Joshua, and >Samuel? If so, please let the rest of us know. > >Thanks, Jim Elder > >-----Original Message----- >From: LEW1991@aol.com <LEW1991@aol.com> >To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> >Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 8:42 AM >Subject: [Elder-News]: Re: Elder Manuscripts in Pa. State Archives > > >>Manuscript Collection, Pa. State Archives #45: >> >> MG-45 >> ELDER FAMILY COLLECTION >> 1786-1850 >> 5 cu. ft. >> >> >> >>These are papers concerning the Elder family of Dauphin County. Featured >are >>correspondence and legal papers of Thomas Elder >>(b. 1767, d. 1853), who served in Captain Dentzel's Company during the >Whiskey >>Insurrection, practiced law in Dauphin County >>from 1791, and held the post of attorney general of Pennsylvania from >1820-23. >>Other family members represented are Joshua >>Elder (b. 1744/45, d. 1820) and Samuel Elder (b. 1772, d. 1815), high >sheriff >>of Dauphin County from 1800-1803. Included are >>business, land, and legal records involving Alexander Berryhill, Henry >>Buehler, William Buehler, Simon Cameron, Thomas Forster, >>John GLoninger, William Graydon, Jacob Greenawalt, John A. Hanna, Robert >>Harris, John Joseph Henry, Gabriel Hiester, John >>Kelker, William Kelso, John Kerlin, William Maclay, Abraham Wickersham, >etc. >>Considerable material relates to the Harrisburg >>and Presque Isle Land Company. >> >>****************** >>Also: Manuscript Collection #8: Pennsylvania Collection (Misc.) >>Letters from: Isaac D. Barnard to Thomas Elder, 1826; Thomas Elder to >George >>Bryan, 1821. >> >>****************** >> >>PA State Archive URL: http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/ >> >>Enjoy! >> >>Linda Winkler >> > >
Subject: [Elder-News]: "Elder of Paxtang" by William Henry Egle, MD, MA
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:15:24 -0500
I'm back, I have the chapter of the Elder family from the above book. They have names like my Elder's (and you "other"Elder's). I tried very hard to find a niche for the Samuel Elder who died in Sevier Co. TN 1811. I cannot put this on email we would be here for days. Maybe we can work something out. Ann elderbrooks@msn.com.
Subject: [Elder-News]: Misc Info
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 21:23:13 -0500
COPIES OF LETTERS WRITTEN BY MALINDA ANN MOORE To Her Sister Sarah Caroline Moore; Knoxville, Knox County, TN. Jan the 21st, 1883 "Henry MOORE died of smallpox Monday night. I guess Pa knows him he married Martha ELDER." Martha ELDER was the daughter of Charles & Elizabeth (Underwood) ELDER, she was born in Jefferson Co., TN. : Charles Elder son of William Elder son of Samuel Elder. (Source: top of page, on page 59; I do not recall the name of this little book, it was a very small diary type book which was loaned to me. Ann
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re: Elder Manuscripts in Pa. State Archives
From: LEW1991@aol.com
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 17:57:24 EST
I can take a physical look at the collection on my next visit to the archives...in a few weeks ... and find out what can be copied etc. My sence is 5 cu. ft. is a good bit of material....from the description it sounds like a lot of business correspondence. But there could be family material. Linda In a message dated 98-02-22 20:12:23 EST, you write: << Jim asked the question about Elder Manuscripts in PA State Archives after I started this note I realized that the PA Archives is in Harrisburg. I have a sister outside of Philadelphia she could call and find out if it was, although she is not at all about to do any research she waits for me to give her the family news. Knowing she would go for the information if obtainable, such as to pick up and mail. Are these manuscripts allowed to be copied, are they huge and impossible? I really would like to know what is in them? I think your speaking of the Paxtang Elder's, located about five miles north of Harrisburgh I just happen to have brought the PA file along tonight, I am trying to downsize. I have the HISTORY OF THE COUNTIES OF DAUPHIN AND LEBANON IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA BIROGRAPHICAL AND GENEALOGICAL, by William Henry Egle, MD, MA, 1883. One quick look: Jacob Elder eldest son of John Elder and Elizabeth Awl and grandson of Rev John Elder. In 1815 he commenced the publication of the Dauphin Guardian. (all of the above is quoted from the book)aebp Col Joshua Elder (here is a Joshua, Jim), Col Robert Elder eldest son of Rev John Elder and Mary Baker; he married (2) Mary J. Thompson of Derry, she was b. Oct 19 1750, d Aug 18, 1813. John Elder, Jr. of Rev John Elder and Mary Simpson (second wife) was born Aug 3, 1757 in Paxtang. Samuel Elder son of Rev John Elder and Mary Simpson b. Feb 27, 1772 in Paxtang. Rev John Elder - much to long. Thomas Elder - son of Rev John Elder of Paxtang and Mary Simpson. (p. 482, 483, 484) information all from the above named source. Ann elderbrooks@msn.com -----Original Message----- From: James C. Elder <jcelder@mho.net> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re: Elder Manuscripts in Pa. State Archives >Linda...and others... > >Has anyone looked into these papers to learn who the parents, etc., of >Thomas were, and what were the relationships between Thomas, Joshua, and >Samuel? If so, please let the rest of us know. > >Thanks, Jim Elder > >-----Original Message----- >From: LEW1991@aol.com <LEW1991@aol.com> >To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> >Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 8:42 AM >Subject: [Elder-News]: Re: Elder Manuscripts in Pa. State Archives > > >>Manuscript Collection, Pa. State Archives #45: >> >> MG-45 >> ELDER FAMILY COLLECTION >> 1786-1850 >> 5 cu. ft. >> >> >> >>These are papers concerning the Elder family of Dauphin County. Featured >are >>correspondence and legal papers of Thomas Elder >>(b. 1767, d. 1853), who served in Captain Dentzel's Company during the >Whiskey >>Insurrection, practiced law in Dauphin County >>from 1791, and held the post of attorney general of Pennsylvania from >1820-23. >>Other family members represented are Joshua >>Elder (b. 1744/45, d. 1820) and Samuel Elder (b. 1772, d. 1815), high >sheriff >>of Dauphin County from 1800-1803. Included are >>business, land, and legal records involving Alexander Berryhill, Henry >>Buehler, William Buehler, Simon Cameron, Thomas Forster, >>John GLoninger, William Graydon, Jacob Greenawalt, John A. Hanna, Robert >>Harris, John Joseph Henry, Gabriel Hiester, John >>Kelker, William Kelso, John Kerlin, William Maclay, Abraham Wickersham, >etc. >>Considerable material relates to the Harrisburg >>and Presque Isle Land Company. >> >>****************** >>Also: Manuscript Collection #8: Pennsylvania Collection (Misc.) >>Letters from: Isaac D. Barnard to Thomas Elder, 1826; Thomas Elder to >George >>Bryan, 1821. >> >>****************** >> >>PA State Archive URL: http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/ >> >>Enjoy! >> >>Linda Winkler >> > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <owner-elder-news@intrepid.net> Received: from relay11.mail.aol.com (relay11.mail.aol.com [172.31.109.11]) by air04.mail.aol.com (v39.9) with SMTP; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:12:23 -0500 Received: from intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by relay11.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id UAA02451; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:12:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA00920 for elder-news-outgoing; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:10:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: intrepid.net: majordom set sender to owner-elder- news@intrepid.net using -f Received: from UPIMSSMTPUSR02 ([207.68.143.138]) by intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00913 for <elder-news@intrepid.net>; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:10:37 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer - 153.34.171.97 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 17:11:20 -0800 From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com> To: <elder-news@intrepid.net> Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re: Elder Manuscripts in Pa. State Archives Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:08:05 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Message-ID: <0139e2011011728UPIMSSMTPUSR02@email.msn.com> Sender: owner-elder-news@intrepid.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net >>
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re: Elder Manuscripts in Pa. State Archives
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:47:35 -0500
Hi, I think my interest was out of control, 5cu ft is a lot of material. I appreciate the help but that is to much to expect. I may try and get my sister to go, she wants to be a PA ELDER, no matter what I show her, thus the key word, possible! Thank you. Ann -----Original Message----- From: LEW1991@aol.com <LEW1991@aol.com> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re: Elder Manuscripts in Pa. State Archives >I can take a physical look at the collection on my next visit to the >archives...in a few weeks ... and find out what can be copied etc. My sence >is 5 cu. ft. is a good bit of material....from the description it sounds like >a lot of business correspondence. But there could be family material. > >Linda > >In a message dated 98-02-22 20:12:23 EST, you write: > ><< Jim asked the question about Elder Manuscripts in PA State Archives after I > started this note I realized that the PA Archives is in Harrisburg. I have > a sister outside of Philadelphia she could call and find out if it was, > although she is not at all about to do any research she waits for me to give > her the family news. Knowing she would go for the information if > obtainable, such as to pick up and mail. Are these manuscripts allowed to > be copied, are they huge and impossible? I really would like to know what is > in them? I think your speaking of the Paxtang Elder's, located about five > miles north of Harrisburgh I just happen to have brought the PA file along > tonight, I am trying to downsize. I have the HISTORY OF THE COUNTIES OF > DAUPHIN AND LEBANON IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA BIROGRAPHICAL AND > GENEALOGICAL, by William Henry Egle, MD, MA, 1883. > > One quick look: Jacob Elder eldest son of John Elder and Elizabeth Awl and > grandson of Rev John Elder. In 1815 he commenced the publication of the > Dauphin Guardian. (all of the above is quoted from the book)aebp > > Col Joshua Elder (here is a Joshua, Jim), Col Robert Elder eldest son of Rev > John Elder and Mary Baker; he married (2) Mary J. Thompson of Derry, she was > b. Oct 19 1750, d Aug 18, 1813. > > John Elder, Jr. of Rev John Elder and Mary Simpson (second wife) was born > Aug 3, 1757 in Paxtang. > > Samuel Elder son of Rev John Elder and Mary Simpson b. Feb 27, 1772 in > Paxtang. > > Rev John Elder - much to long. > > Thomas Elder - son of Rev John Elder of Paxtang and Mary Simpson. (p. 482, > 483, 484) information all from the above named source. Ann > elderbrooks@msn.com > -----Original Message----- > From: James C. Elder <jcelder@mho.net> > To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> > Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 10:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re: Elder Manuscripts in Pa. State Archives > > > >Linda...and others... > > > >Has anyone looked into these papers to learn who the parents, etc., of > >Thomas were, and what were the relationships between Thomas, Joshua, and > >Samuel? If so, please let the rest of us know. > > > >Thanks, Jim Elder > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: LEW1991@aol.com <LEW1991@aol.com> > >To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> > >Date: Saturday, February 21, 1998 8:42 AM > >Subject: [Elder-News]: Re: Elder Manuscripts in Pa. State Archives > > > > > >>Manuscript Collection, Pa. State Archives #45: > >> > >> MG-45 > >> ELDER FAMILY COLLECTION > >> 1786-1850 > >> 5 cu. ft. > >> > >> > >> > >>These are papers concerning the Elder family of Dauphin County. Featured > >are > >>correspondence and legal papers of Thomas Elder > >>(b. 1767, d. 1853), who served in Captain Dentzel's Company during the > >Whiskey > >>Insurrection, practiced law in Dauphin County > >>from 1791, and held the post of attorney general of Pennsylvania from > >1820-23. > >>Other family members represented are Joshua > >>Elder (b. 1744/45, d. 1820) and Samuel Elder (b. 1772, d. 1815), high > >sheriff > >>of Dauphin County from 1800-1803. Included are > >>business, land, and legal records involving Alexander Berryhill, Henry > >>Buehler, William Buehler, Simon Cameron, Thomas Forster, > >>John GLoninger, William Graydon, Jacob Greenawalt, John A. Hanna, Robert > >>Harris, John Joseph Henry, Gabriel Hiester, John > >>Kelker, William Kelso, John Kerlin, William Maclay, Abraham Wickersham, > >etc. > >>Considerable material relates to the Harrisburg > >>and Presque Isle Land Company. > >> > >>****************** > >>Also: Manuscript Collection #8: Pennsylvania Collection (Misc.) > >>Letters from: Isaac D. Barnard to Thomas Elder, 1826; Thomas Elder to > >George > >>Bryan, 1821. > >> > >>****************** > >> > >>PA State Archive URL: http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/ > >> > >>Enjoy! > >> > >>Linda Winkler > >> > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- > Return-Path: <owner-elder-news@intrepid.net> > Received: from relay11.mail.aol.com (relay11.mail.aol.com [172.31.109.11]) >by air04.mail.aol.com (v39.9) with SMTP; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:12:23 -0500 > Received: from intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) > by relay11.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) > with ESMTP id UAA02451; > Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:12:13 -0500 (EST) > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA00920 > for elder-news-outgoing; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:10:41 -0500 > X-Authentication-Warning: intrepid.net: majordom set sender to owner-elder- >news@intrepid.net using -f > Received: from UPIMSSMTPUSR02 ([207.68.143.138]) > by intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00913 > for <elder-news@intrepid.net>; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:10:37 -0500 > Received: from oemcomputer - 153.34.171.97 by email.msn.com with Microsoft >SMTPSVC; > Sun, 22 Feb 1998 17:11:20 -0800 > From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com> > To: <elder-news@intrepid.net> > Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re: Elder Manuscripts in Pa. State Archives > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:08:05 -0500 > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 > Message-ID: <0139e2011011728UPIMSSMTPUSR02@email.msn.com> > Sender: owner-elder-news@intrepid.net > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net > > >> >
Subject: [Elder-News]: Error in my email-Lee Elder
From: "Lee M. Elder" <elder@wcc.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 22:19:51 -0800
Hi Ann and everyone else: Thanks Donna and Ann for letting me know that my email was coming in wrong. I had an extra @wcc.net on the end of my regular email address. My correct email is: elder@wcc.net , this was mixed up in my options file. Yes Ann you can send me the material you mentioned in your letter. Sharon, I will send you another disk in Gedcom using Brothers Keeper and I think you can take it off. I have been busy working in the early election running one of their computers and will be busy all next week. I hope I can answer any mail and keep up with the ones I have. Lee
Subject: [Elder-News]: Re: Error in my email-Lee Elder
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 21:29:09 -0500
Hi to all & Lee, Lee you should have those papers by now? Let me know please, Ann -----Original Message----- From: Lee M. Elder <elder@wcc.net> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Cc: elderbrooks@msn.com <elderbrooks@msn.com>; elder@wcc.net <elder@wcc.net> Date: Thursday, February 26, 1998 10:13 PM Subject: Error in my email-Lee Elder >Hi Ann and everyone else: > >Thanks Donna and Ann for letting me know that my email was coming in >wrong. I had an extra @wcc.net on the end of my regular email address. >My correct email is: elder@wcc.net , this was mixed up in my options >file. > >Yes Ann you can send me the material you mentioned in your letter. > >Sharon, I will send you another disk in Gedcom using Brothers Keeper and >I think you can take it off. > >I have been busy working in the early election running one of their >computers and will be busy all next week. I hope I can answer any mail >and keep up with the ones I have. >Lee >
Subject: [Elder-News]: Address Changes
From: AFunGirl35 <AFunGirl35@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 23:56:05 EST
Saturday, 28 February 1998 Greetings on and all! Effective immediately, my snail mail AND my e-mail addresses are changed - however --- my telephone # will remain the SAME --- a tremendous amount of thanks to all of those who have thaken the time and made the effort to exchange much valued information via snail mail with me over the past several months --- Some of whom I've not been able to reply to just yet, please accept my most humble apologies - The holidays took a huge toll on me and my life and then I also had lots of company - some expected but then stayed past the anticipated time to depart and then others quite unexpected. Unfortunately in addition to that my health hasn't been at it's peak and things are just now calming down - looking forward to corresponding once again with many of you soon - happy hunting and take care --- Sincerely, Christie Anne [RUSCH] WEINTRAUB NEW Postal Address: 17252 Hawthorne Boulevard #408 Torrance, CA 90504-3105 NEW E-Mail Address: carw@mailcity.com If possible could this also be passed on to the newsletter readers / membership as well, I hope ! - Thanks, Christie