Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Is anyone out there? Presley-Elder in Virginia
From: DennisE16@aol.com
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 11:13:54 EST
I found this message during a search of the VA-SOUTHSIDE archives. Elizabeth was the widow of Peter Elder, who was the first of her three husbands. But the Presley connection was news to me. Anyone have any details? << Edward MORRIS, son of Anthony and Dorthy (SANFORD) MORRIS, was born in Va. He married Elizabeth in Northumberland Co., Va. in 1687. Elizabeth was either Elizabeth Presley and the widow of Peter Elder or the widow of ? Presley and the daughter of Peter Elder. They had nine children, and I need information about them also. Does anyone connect with this family? bettycrawford@worldnet.att.net >>
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Is anyone out there?
From: Lelder213@aol.com
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 11:30:13 EST
In a message dated 12/2/98 11:43:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,
CDGG47A@prodigy.com writes:
<< What is the earliest record for Dumah Elder of Arkansas?
Mary Cole
CDGG47A@Prodigy.com >>
Mary,
Earliest record I have is when Dumah Elder joined the Union army in August of
1864. There he states he was from Hawkins, OH. Later in an 1880 Arkansas
census he states he was from PA. He was first married to Mary Ann Reece (my
line) and later during the Civil War to Rosilla Ziegler also from PA. Mary
Ann died during the winter of 1864/65 in Louisville, KY according to a letter
her son William Henry Elder wrote to help Rosilla get a pension for her and
Dumah's minor children.
If you have any ideas of where to look or any help at all it would be greatly
appreciated. A cousin in Kansas has done most of the research at the LDS and
can't find anything either.
Thanks,
Linda Elder
lelder213@aol.com
Subject: [Elder-News]: Joshua Elder
From: DHoward575@aol.com
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 20:49:30 EST
Does anyone have ANYTHING on the parents of a Joshua Elder born 1763 in Cape Elizabeth, Maine and died 22 January 1846 in Dexter, Maine. He was a Revolutionary War soldier, and he married Joanna Roberts on 16 December 1784. They had five (5) children: William, Charles, Richard, Joshua, and Joanna. Thanks, David Howard
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Is anyone out there?
From: Docwiliams@aol.com
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:50:52 EST
Reply to all, I have read several e-mails on the Elders, Anyone out there? I do believe it is a good idea to have everyone help with the postings and work on the "stuck" lines. I am doing research on the John Elder/Margaret McHenry line and the Bailey/Elder line as well as the Hixenbaugh/Bailey and Williams/Willey lines. Thank you. Sincerely, Dr. Roger L. Williams
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder Ohio Patents
From: "Thomas Wilson" <twilson@pathwaynet.com>
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 98 16:43:11 PST
I have Thomas Jefferson Elder, leaving Seneca County, Ohio in 1842 for Koskuisco County, Indiana. I went into the Bureau of Land Management records and found six 80 acre land patents to Elders in Seneca County as follows: 1. William Elder, May 14, 1824, for the E1/2 of the NE1/4 Section 23, Township 3 North, Range 16 East .. 2. Henry Elder, March 13, 1828, for the W1/2 of the SE1/4 of Section 32, Township 2 North, Range 15 East. 3. Samuel Elder, December 6, 1830, for the W1/2 of the SE1/4 of Section 25, Township 3 North, Range 16 East. 4. Joseph Elder, March 6, 1829, for the W1/2 of the SW1/2 of Section 29, Township 2 North, Range 14 East. 5. George W. Elder, May 5, 1832, for the W1/2 of the SE1/4 of Section 27, Township 3 North, Range 16 East. 6. Thomas I. Elder, May 5, 1832, for the E1/2 of the NE1/4 of Section 27, Township 3 North, Range 16 East. Now I would think that since my Thomas Elder was born in Ohio in around 1802 and was llving there in Seneca County until 1842, that one or more of these Elders was related to him. Any connections out there. Thomas Lester Wilson twilson@pathwaynet.com
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder-News
From: Docwiliams@aol.com
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 20:25:54 EST
Hi, Thank you for the e-mail. I am looking forward to receiving the promised information. I am fairly new to this genealogy and one's family tree. I have been working less than 2 months and still am learning computer skills/typing. Again thanks and I will let you know if I receive the info. Sincerely, Dr. Roger L. Williams
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder Ohio Patents
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 20:58:23 -0500
Thomas Wilson, "Hello" stick around someone will know. I have drifted most of this year, but I am back on the Elder's again. So many here know so much and all of them are so willing to share. My Mother died last Spring, although it was not a surprise, she had spent 1 year and three months in a nursing home, and she was lucid enough to know she "could not leave". Ann Poe -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Wilson <twilson@pathwaynet.com> To: Elder News List <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Sunday, December 06, 1998 4:50 PM Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder Ohio Patents >I have Thomas Jefferson Elder, leaving Seneca County, Ohio in 1842 for >Koskuisco County, Indiana. I went into the Bureau of Land Management >records and found six 80 acre land patents to Elders in Seneca County as >follows: >1. William Elder, May 14, 1824, for the E1/2 of the NE1/4 Section 23, >Township 3 North, Range 16 East .. >2. Henry Elder, March 13, 1828, for the W1/2 of the SE1/4 of Section 32, >Township 2 North, Range 15 East. >3. Samuel Elder, December 6, 1830, for the W1/2 of the SE1/4 of Section >25, Township 3 North, Range 16 East. >4. Joseph Elder, March 6, 1829, for the W1/2 of the SW1/2 of Section 29, >Township 2 North, Range 14 East. >5. George W. Elder, May 5, 1832, for the W1/2 of the SE1/4 of Section 27, >Township 3 North, Range 16 East. >6. Thomas I. Elder, May 5, 1832, for the E1/2 of the NE1/4 of Section 27, >Township 3 North, Range 16 East. > >Now I would think that since my Thomas Elder was born in Ohio in around >1802 and was llving there in Seneca County until 1842, that one or more of >these Elders was related to him. Any connections out there. > >Thomas Lester Wilson >twilson@pathwaynet.com >
Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDERS in PA
From: StagecoachStop <STAGECOACHSTOP@prodigy.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:40:28 -0500
Dear Elders, The following Elders are my descendents: James H. ELDER, s/o Thomas ELDER b. 7/4/1821 in KY d. 1846 (Date of Death is not correct. 1850 Census was listed as living in Manchester, present site in North Side, Pittsburgh PA; 1870 and 1880 census listed as living in Parnassus, PA. m. Margaret Ann FRYER (b. 1817 in PA; d. 1891; d/o Mary GRAHAM and Joseph FRYER. c/o Margaret Ann Fryer and James H. Elder: Joseph Thomas ELDER (my direct descendent) b. 3/25/1846 in Elizabeth PA; d. 6/24/1923 in NYC, NY m. (1) Mary Elizabeth THOMPSON m. (2) Josephine PIMPER m. (3) Lillie BUSH Anyone connect.
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder's in PA.
From: Lee Elder <elder@wcc.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:54:58 -0600
Hi : I checked my files and didn't have the names you listed in your email of Dec. 10, 1998 I have several James H. Elder, but none that was born 7-4-1821. Sorry. Lee M. Elder
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: news
From: KeithElder@aol.com
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 09:36:57 EST
Ann, I don't think your Matthew Elder is in my line, and I don't recall running across him in the Magee Family History. However, the material in this book is extensive, and only have copies of portions of it. That is why I am eager for the opportunity to get the whole book in the second printing that Harry announced. Keith In a message dated 98-12-10 21:51:44 EST, you write: > I found a printed message I had sent to Harry about some of the Elder's in > Chester Co, not mine that I know of. Does this book contain information on > the Matthew Elder who came through PA. into Rockbridge, VA., and finally > into Washington Co VA where he died 1783. He had sons, Andrew, Robert, > James and others, daughters etc. Wife was Mary Kincannon although we do not > know if she was the first wife? > > I cannot find very much information on this family, I feel that Matthew may > have been the immigrant ancestor, also that he may have had a brother Andrew > (as well as a son) if he had a brother Andrew he may well be the father of > my Samuel Elder. I have a lot of "if's" here.
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elders in TX
From: "Cindi Lada" <cindith@bigfoot.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:29:55 -0500
Hi, I am new to this list. I live in Michigan and I am researching my grandmother's family in Texas. Her name was Icie Bernice Elders. She was born in Parker Co. Tx on 6/1/1896. She married Albert B. Majors on 1/1/1915 in Parker Co. and she died 2/10/1968 in Palo Pinto Co. Tx. Her father and mother were: J. A. Elders (b. abt 1863 in AL - d. before 1939 in TX) Nancy A. McCarthey (b. abt 1860 in TX - d. ?) She had 2 or 3 brothers that I know of and 1 sister. Robert L. Elders (b. abt 1887) Jesse A. (Doc) Elders (b. abt 1897) Jonnie Elders (b. abt 1895) Gertrude Elders (b. after 1896, m. Dayton Hollman) I believe J.A. Elders was a cotton farmer. I have an old postcard from Walter Stephnes Cotton Ginery addressed to J. A. Elders, Milsap, TX, with the following writing on the back " This gin is open for business, and always ready to gin your cotton and treat you nice. Your friend Walter Stephnes". It was postmarked from Milsap, TX. Icie had 7 children, the youngest was my mother, Barbara Ann Majors, b. 7/10/1938 in Mineral Wells, Palo Pinto Co. TX. My mother has Icie's old family bible, which doesn't contain much info except on Icie's parents. There are many Elders buried in Po Prairie Cemetary in Bennett, TX. I have the headstones on videotape and I am planning to put them on a CD. I think Jesse (Doc) Elders worked at Acme Brick in Bennett, TX. I have a picture of him there. I have many pictures of Elders that I am planning to put on a web page as soon as time allows. If anyone knows these Elders, let me know. Cindi Lada Icie is buried next to Albert in Sturdivent Cemetary, Palo Pinto Co.
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elders in TX
From: Lee Elder <elder@wcc.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:09:08 -0600
Hi Cindi: I coouldn't find any of your family in my computer. I have over 53,000 names of several Elder families in several directories. If you could go back one more generation from J. A. Elder and wife I may be able to help you. My family came from Alabvama to Texas in 1897 and my gandfather and great grandfather were from Alabama. They came to Alabama from Georgia in 1800's. Hope to hear from you. I have two Icy Elder ladies but they did not marry a Majors. Lee M. Elder Cindi Lada wrote: > Hi, > I am new to this list. I live in Michigan and I am researching my > grandmother's family in Texas. > > Her name was Icie Bernice Elders. She was born in Parker Co. Tx on > 6/1/1896. She married Albert B. Majors on 1/1/1915 in Parker Co. and she > died 2/10/1968 in Palo Pinto Co. Tx. > > Her father and mother were: > > J. A. Elders (b. abt 1863 in AL - d. before 1939 in TX) > Nancy A. McCarthey (b. abt 1860 in TX - d. ?) > > She had 2 or 3 brothers that I know of and 1 sister. > > Robert L. Elders (b. abt 1887) > Jesse A. (Doc) Elders (b. abt 1897) > Jonnie Elders (b. abt 1895) > Gertrude Elders (b. after 1896, m. Dayton Hollman) > > I believe J.A. Elders was a cotton farmer. I have an old postcard from > Walter Stephnes Cotton Ginery addressed to J. A. Elders, Milsap, TX, with > the following writing on the back " This gin is open for business, and > always ready to gin your cotton and treat you nice. Your friend Walter > Stephnes". It was postmarked from Milsap, TX. > > Icie had 7 children, the youngest was my mother, Barbara Ann Majors, b. > 7/10/1938 in Mineral Wells, Palo Pinto Co. TX. My mother has Icie's old > family bible, which doesn't contain much info except on Icie's parents. > > There are many Elders buried in Po Prairie Cemetary in Bennett, TX. I have > the headstones on videotape and I am planning to put them on a CD. > > I think Jesse (Doc) Elders worked at Acme Brick in Bennett, TX. I have a > picture of him there. I have many pictures of Elders that I am planning to > put on a web page as soon as time allows. > > If anyone knows these Elders, let me know. > > Cindi Lada > > Icie is buried next to Albert in Sturdivent Cemetary, Palo Pinto Co.
Subject: [Elder-News]: James Elder
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 22:22:59 -0500
Hi Elder's-I am ashamed I misplaced this query form April 1997, I do have some answer for Kathryn Garcia as well as a new contact for her, same ancestorS.. Ann Poe elderbrooks@msn.com HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL OF YOU..........................
Subject: [Elder-News]: THOMAS ELDER OF KY
From: Bertha Emmett <sigler@ivnet.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:59:12 -0600
I have been trying to find information on Thomas Elder, who was listed on the 1850 Russell Co., KY census. Included in the family were: Thomas Elder, age 28, b NC: Elizabeth, 23, b KY; Granville, 2, b KY; Zerrilda, 1, b KY; Umrah?, 5/12, b KY; and Polly, 60 yrs, b VA. From Zerrilda Elder Emmett's death certificate, at Springfield, IL, it stated that her mother's maiden name was Elizlabeth Jones. I could not find Thomas Elder on the 1860 census for the several counties that I checked in KY. Does anyone have any information on this THOMAS ELDER?
Subject: [Elder-News]: John Owen Elder 1771 MD
From: Janice Devan <jandevan@cdt.infi.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 21:31:34 -0500
Who were the children of John Owen Elder, born 1771 in Maryland, son of Owen and Ann Dorsey Elder? Thank you, Jan
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder - NC>TN>IL>WI >TX & KS
From: Rlaneb1@aol.com
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:25:08 EST
Happy Holidays to the Elder bunch. I am still searching for the ancestors of the following. John Elder married to Mary Carson-the parents of Rev. William Elder below? 1 Rev. William Elder born 1796, died 1880 near Springfield,IL; married to Mary Stinson, born 1787 in NC died in 1828 in western TN. (another spouse for Rev. William Elder was Jane-They had a child named Martha Elder in 1831, Martha married Dayton Miller) Rev. William Elder and Mary Stinson Elder lived in the Iredell County of North Carolina around 1810. Some of their children were: 2 possibly Jane Elder born 1807 in NC; married to Richardson 2 possibly Mary Ann Elder born 1809; married to Wilson 2 Hanna Elder born in 1811 in Statesville, Iredell Co., NC; married James George May 10, 1833 in Sangamon Co., Ill. In 1832, they settled in Wiota, Wisconsin near the old fort. She was a member of the Free Will Baptist church. Her obit says Hannah was the mother of eleven children. Children include Mrs. Jane Shaan, Mrs. Lucinda Baily, Mr. John George, Mrs. Mary Aun Bee (sp?) of Richland County, Wisconsin; Mrs. Alvira Kaster of Fayette; Mr. E. George of Kansas. 2 John Elder born 1812, Iredell County, NC; married Anna 2 Levina Elder (or Lorena) born Dec. 18, 1811 in Iredell County, NC: married to John Hook (Cook?) then to Joseph St. John. She died in Richland Co., WI March 13, 1904. 2 William Elder born 1815 in Iredell Co., NC; married to Ann 2 James Elder born 1817 in Iredell County, NC; married to Anna? 2 Andrew Lawson Elder born August 1817 in Iredell County, NC; married Julia Ann Andrews in February 28, 1850. He died September 12, 1891 in Eagle Twp., Richland County, Wisconsin. 2 Elam Alpheus Elder b. April 23, 1818, d. July 18, 1908; married to Eunice Susan Lester. Elam lived in Dane County, Wisconsin (Belleville) - daughter? Eliza Elder 2 Amos Franklin Elder born 1820 in Iredell County, NC; married Louisa Doles April 22, 1847 in Territory of Wisconsin County of Lafayette. 2 William S. Elder b. 1824, in Buncombe Co., NC, d. 1876 in Canton S.D., Union soldier, farmer, minister of the Church of the United Brethren in Christ. Married to (1)Mary Catherine Sweem, then to (2)Day Children include: 3 J.W. Elder married to a Nancy Connally(sp?), Union soldier, died in Kansas 3 M.F. Elder died young 3 Andrew J. Elder, born in 1850 in Marion Co., Iowa, died and buried in Polk Co., Arkansas around 1913 married to Sarah E. Henthorn (born in Monroe Co., Ohio, Washington Henthorn and Mary "Polly" Martin were her parents/Ephraim Martin and (2)Elizabeth Miller were her grandparents)-Many children This branch in my line (R.Bangsund) Many of them lived in Texas. 3 Franklin Elder married to Sarah Martin (Ephraim Martin and (2)Susan Paris were her parents)--they had 3 children 3 Ester Elder 3 other children 2 Matilda Elder born in 1828 in western TN; married in Iowa Co., WI in 1850 to David Campbell If anything looks familiar, let me know. I am very greatful to Dean Elder. He recently mailed most of this information to me. I would like to find out more about the Iredell County, NC Elders especially John Elder and Mary Carson. Thank you. R.Bangsund rlaneb1@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: John Owen Elder 1771 MD
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:57:23 -0500
Have you checked the William Elder line, the name Dorsey stands out. William who came as a convert to MD. If you do not find it Lee, let me know & I will look for it. Ann elderbrooks@msn.com -----Original Message----- From: Lee Elder <elder@wcc.net> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>; jandevan@cdt.infi.net <jandevan@cdt.infi.net> Date: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: John Owen Elder 1771 MD > > >Janice Devan wrote: > >> Who were the children of John Owen Elder, born 1771 in Maryland, son of >> Owen and Ann Dorsey Elder? >> >> Thank you, >> >> Jan > > Hi Jan: >I revceived your inquiry abut John Owen Elder b. 1771. I don't have him in >any of my directories. Sorry >Lee M. Elder > >
Subject: [Elder-News]: Slainte
From: Abbie Angharad Hughes <abbies@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU>
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:48:59 +1100 (AEDT)
Slainte mhath, slainte mhor! Good Hunting in the New Year! I just received some papers mailed in Sydney on 2nd December so I hope you have by now got the photos and ELDER tree that I posted to you before Christmas. Best, Abbie abbies@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: John Owen Elder 1771 MD
From: Donna Logan <fanfare@intrepid.net>
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:19:28 -0500
At 9:31 PM -0500 12/29/98, Janice Devan wrote: > Who were the children of John Owen Elder, born 1771 in Maryland, son of > Owen and Ann Dorsey Elder? > > Thank you, > > Jan Jan, This is basically what I have of the descendants of John Owen (aka Owen of Owen) Elder in the first generation. It's subject to modification as more research is done, but offers a starting point. - donna ps - this is also my own line of the Elders - through his son Michael Elder who married his cousin Catherine (aka Keturah) Dorsey. ***************** First Generation --------------------------------------------- 1. Owen Elder. Born in Anne Arundel, Maryland. Died 1774 in Baltimore, Maryland. He married Ann Nancy Dorsey, daughter of Michael Dorsey & Ruth Todd, 10 Apr 1766 in St. Thomas, Parish, Baltimore, Maryland. Born 29 Jan 1748/1749. Died 30 Sep 1806 in Baltimore, Maryland. They had the following children: 2 i. Terrisha Elder 3 ii. Ruth Elder 4 iii. John Owen "Owen_of_Owen" Elder ***************** First Generation (#4 John Owen Elder in the above chart) --------------------------------------------- 1. John Owen (aka "Owen_of_Owen") Elder. Born 19 Feb 1771 in St. Thomas, Parish, Maryland. Died About 8 Feb 1857 in Carroll, Maryland. He married Ann Dorsey, daughter of Lancelot Dorsey & Sarah Warfield, 1 Sep 1794 in St. Thomas Parish. They had the following children: 2 i. John Elder 3 ii. Michael Elder 4 iii. Lydia Elder 5 iv. Evaline Elder 6 v. Harriet Elder 7 vi. Ruth Elder 8 vii. Sarah Elder --------------------------------------------- 2. John Elder. 3. Michael Elder. Born 29 Jul 1800 in Baltimore, Maryland. Died 27 Mar 1868 in Limestone, Marshall, West Virginia. He first married Catherine (aka Keturah) Dorsey, daughter of Basil Dorsey & Susannah Lindsey, 27 Oct 1826 in Baltimore, Md. Born 14 Jan 1808 in Ellicott City, Anne Arundel, Maryland. Died 9 Apr 1857 in Moundsville, Marshall, West Virginia. They had the following children: 9 i. Susannah Elder 10 ii. Mary Elder 11 iii. Basil Dorsey Elder Dr. 12 iv. Elizabeth Elder 13 v. Anne Elder 14 vi. Thomas Elder 15 vii. Anne Rebecca Elder 16 viii. May\_Mary_Ellen Elder 17 ix. William Elder He second married Harriet A. Doman, 11 Nov 1858. Born 14 May 1823. Died 10 Aug 1891 in ?Marshall, W. Virginia. 4. Lydia Elder. Died Before Oct 1856. She married William Frizzell. 5. Evaline Elder. She married John O'Neal. 6. Harriet Elder. She married Archibald Brown. Died Before 1859. 7. Ruth Elder. She first married Gaines. She second married Elisha Dorsey. 8. Sarah Elder. She married Saib DeVries. Born in Holland. Died Before 1859 in Carroll Co, Maryland.