Elder August 1998 Mail List


Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder Pictures
Subject: [Elder-News]: A Question about the North Irish/Scottish Elders
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder Pictures
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder Pictures
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: A Question about the North Irish/Scottish Elders
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: A Question about the North Irish/Scottish Elders
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: A Question about the North Irish/Scottish Elders
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder Pictures
Subject: [Elder-News]: West Chester, PA
Subject: [Elder-News]: Answer to letter Re: Mary TAYLOR
Subject: [Elder-News]: Misc.
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder's Ridge
Subject: [Elder-News]: elderbrooks
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Subject: [Elder-News]: Samuel to Thomas to Anna research
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Samuel to Thomas to Anna research
Subject: [Elder-News]: Looking for J. B. Hitt
Subject: [Elder-News]: New ELDER photos up on web page!
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder pictures
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder Cemetary in Mississippi
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder Cemetary in Mississippi
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder Cemetary in Mississippi
Subject: [Elder-News]: Joseph Elder
Subject: [Elder-News]: Very Mixed Up Elder's
Subject: [Elder-News]: Part II SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION
Subject: [Elder-News]: Part III SAR Application
Subject: [Elder-News]: Part IV SAR APP
Subject: [Elder-News]: Re: Part IV SAR APP
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Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER
Subject: [Elder-News]: Continued, part 2
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder of Robert Elder to Samuel Elder part 3
Subject: [Elder-News]: Ancestor's of Robert Elder part 4
Subject: [Elder-News]: Part 4, Robert Elder ancestor of all the ones written about.
Subject: [Elder-News]: Ancestor's of Robert Elder part 4
Subject: [Elder-News]: Fw: Ancestor's of Robert Elder part 4
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: A Question about the North Irish/Scottish Elders
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Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER Placer County Calif high school grads
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Ancestor's of Robert Elder part 4
Subject: [Elder-News]: George W. Elder of Clarion Co.
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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder Pictures

From: LEW1991@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 06:30:31 EDT

Perhaps Donna could post them on the Elder home page?

http://www.intrepid.net/genealogy/elder/


Linda

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Subject: [Elder-News]: A Question about the North Irish/Scottish Elders

From: DHoward575@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 08:36:37 EDT

I am descended from Samuel Elder born abt 1692 in Artemore, County Antrim,
North Ireland. I have been told, from various sources, that he had a brother
named John Elder (born abt 1690), and their father was a John Elder (estimated
born 1650-1675).

Does anyone have any information on other siblings born in County Antrim, NI.
I have a suspicion that my ancestors that emmigrated to Falmouth, Maine and
some of the Elders that emmigrated to Pennsylvania might be related.  I have
seen on various websites that other Elders were born in County Antrim and
about the same time as Samuel and John.  Could they be siblings?

Deep in Thought,
David

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder Pictures

From: LFHalter@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 11:37:09 EDT

Any any of these pictures of Elders from Emmittsburg, Calvert Co., MD? Some
went to Prince Georges Co., MD.

Thank you, Francine Conn Halter

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder Pictures

From: "Rodney Elder" <rcelder@lightspeed.net>
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 10:24:26 -0700

I am very interested in the pictures you have of the Elder's.
My research on the Elder family tree does include a John Elder
born in Antrim, Ireland and immigrated in about 1804 to Virginia.
He settled in Ohio.  I know that his father was also John Elder.
My John Elder had a son who was a Medical Doctor.

  


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> From: DHoward575@aol.com
> To: elder-news@intrepid.net
> Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder Pictures
> Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 7:38 PM
> 
> I have a few pictures of Elders that I will be happy to send to anyone
> interested via email. I have one of David Andrew Elder, one of Dr. John
Elder,
> and one of an unknown elder. If anyone would like to try and identify the
> unknown Elder or would like one of the other pictures, then let me know
by
> individual email.
> 
> All pictures are civil war era or before.

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: A Question about the North Irish/Scottish Elders

From: JJSlaton@aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 13:32:18 EDT

Hi David, 
Sorry I can't answer your questions about county Atrium in Ireland. The only
Ireland records I have researched were in Templemore, Londonderry where some
Elders were located in late 1600s & early 1700s.  A Mathew Elder s/o Andrew
Elder & Ann Riply was born in Templemore in 1703 and he could be my Mathew
Elder who went to Pa then to VA where he died in Washington Co iun 1783.  No
proof so can only speculate.
Good luck.
Joyce J. Slaton

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: A Question about the North Irish/Scottish Elders

From: "Rodney Elder" <rcelder@lightspeed.net>
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 11:01:23 -0700

Hi David,

John Elder (IV)  (1756-1843) birthplace ?
 and Mary Elder (married a cousin)

Son, John Elder b Nov 13, 1783, Antrim, Ireland.
Married Margaret Gray in Londonderry, Ireland
Immigrated in 1804 to Virginia, then to Ohio
Sons included a John and Samuel.

Usually they named their sons after relatives so
maybe this could be part of your family tree.
Maybe the John Elder you are seeking was the 
first in a line of five John Elder's.

\-
> I am descended from Samuel Elder born abt 1692 in Artemore, County
Antrim,
> North Ireland. I have been told, from various sources, that he had a
brother
> named John Elder (born abt 1690), and their father was a John Elder
(estimated
> born 1650-1675).
> 

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: A Question about the North Irish/Scottish Elders

From: Maggi Rackley <rackley@cdsnet.net>
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 11:19:55 -0700

JJSlaton@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> Sorry I can't answer your questions about county Atrium in Ireland. The only
> Ireland records I have researched were in Templemore, Londonderry where some
> Elders were located in late 1600s & early 1700s.  A Mathew Elder s/o Andrew
> Elder & Ann Riply was born in Templemore in 1703 and he could be my Mathew
> Elder who went to Pa then to VA where he died in Washington Co iun 1783.  No
> proof so can only speculate.
> Good luck.
> Joyce J. Slaton

Joyce,

Do you have more information on the Matthew and Andrew Elders? I have
just started on that line: Martha Ann Elder b. 1823 married John Todd
b.1826 in 1846>Andrew Elder/Francis Mills (Ky tax rolls)>Matthew Elder
(no info)>Andrew Elder/Margaret ?

That's all I have so far. Can you point me in a direction? 
Thanks,
Maggi (Todd) Rackley

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder Pictures

From: DHoward575@aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:12:09 EDT

In a message dated 98-08-02 13:34:13 EDT, you write:

<< I am very interested in the pictures you have of the Elder's.
 My research on the Elder family tree does include a John Elder
 born in Antrim, Ireland and immigrated in about 1804 to Virginia.
 He settled in Ohio.  I know that his father was also John Elder.
 My John Elder had a son who was a Medical Doctor. >>


Do you know if the first John Elder had any other children born in Antrim,
Ireland?

David

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Subject: [Elder-News]: West Chester, PA

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 22:36:09 -0400

ELDER, John - Another letter, dated 1968--"John ELDER, in a sworn statement
in a RW pension application, said he was born in 1762 in Chester county, PA.
His father was Thomas ELDER, who lived in White Deer Township of Union
County, Pa. in 1793.  After the war John ELDER went back for a time to
Chester.  Do you have any vital records listing the birth of John ELDER or
marriage of his father THOMAS ELDER?" Handwritten on the side: Tax lists -
Vault-none.  John 1776 Land owner.  Thomas 1775 W cannot read.ap James ___
freeman 1756 also New Garden lh. 1758 same. Archives Vol V 110 Bedford Co.
Perhaps the names will help. Ann

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Answer to letter Re: Mary TAYLOR

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 22:49:37 -0400

ELDER- John V. Hollingsworth, GR, Chadds Ford, Penn., Sept. 1973---"The
TAYLORS are all over the place - can you narrow this down.  There are
several Quaker meetings in Lancaster county, Lancaster, Sadsbury, Columbia,
Lampeter, River, East Sadsbury, Bart, Little Elk, Little Britain, Eastland,
Drumore & Fawn.  Two ELDERS  left wills in Lancaster county.  John ELDER
died 1757, Will Book B.151, and Thomas ELDER, 1752, Will Book J.1.45.  Then
there are two ELDERS that died without leaving a will - David ELDER died
1764 and Preston B. ELDER who died in 1840.  One of these may be the father
to your Robert.

There are five Robert ELDERS in the 1790 census of Penna.  Robert of Dauphin
county, himself and 3 females; Robert ELDER, Franklin county, himself, 3
males under 16 and two females.  Robert ELDER, Westmoreland county, himself,
one male under 16 & 2 females.  Robert ELDER, same county as above, Terry
Twp. 1.1.2.  I suspect your Robert may be one of the two Roberts in
Westmoreland county, and ELDER'S RIDGE, Penna. in that county."

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Misc.

From: fanfare@intrepid.net (Donna Logan)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 23:25:09 -0400

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
To: <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Subject: [Elder-News]: Misc.
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 22:17:37 -0400
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I am not sure if anyone needs the following as the PA Elder's are in good
shape. "ABSTRACT OF WILLS AND ADMINISTRATIONS CHESTER COUNTY, PA., p. 237
(from a bond book, all is hand written) it came from the Chester County
Historical Society. " ELDER, James _ New London.
Jany 9, 1766...................................June 18, 1766.
To dau Martha Elder 50 pd   To Bro Robert Elder 10 pd.
To John Scott 10pd. ................Rem. to Bro John Elders children.
Ex. Bro Robert if alive otherwise John Fleming.  Lettes to Elder.
wit-James Elder-Thomas Scott-Elizabeth Hamilton."

A couple of us had thought this "Bro Robert is alive might have been the
father of the Samuel Elder of Tenn. as Samuel Elder was in TN prior to TN
becoming a state.  Have proven sources of two children being born in "Sevier
Co or NC" well, Sevier had not been formed and yes it was off an on part of
NC.?  Any ideas? Thanks Ann

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder's Ridge

From: fanfare@intrepid.net (Donna Logan)
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 23:25:10 -0400

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ELDER, Robert--The following was sent to me by my sister in PA some years
ago. Chester County Historical Society.  A lady had written Mr. John V.
Hollingsworth, College of American Genealogist; dated Sept. 7, 1978.  "Dear
Sir:  Your name was given to me by Willard Heiss as one I might find about
my TAYLOR ancestry.  Mary TAYLOR married Robert ELDER 1762 his second wife.
He was a resident of Hanover Township, Lancaster Co., PA. and after his
first wives death left and I do not know if he was married while away or on
his return to Lancaster Co., PA.  I was always told she was a Quaker.  This
is not much to go on.  After their marriage they moved to the West
establishing "ELDERS RIDGE, PA.  Mary TAYLOR died 1813 at Elders Ridge and
is buried in Ebenezer Cemetery at Lewisville, PA.  etc."  Ann

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Subject: [Elder-News]: elderbrooks

From: Harry Issac Sharp <patroon@IBM.NET>
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 10:16:43 -0400

I just received the Elderbrooks letters, but managed to delete the first
letter before copying to file.  Can I possibly get a copy of this
letter?  Incidentally, there are two of us who are currently researching
an Elder Branch in Western Penna.  Would like to share info.  Harry

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: elderbrooks

From: Ether43@aol.com
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 16:35:11 EDT

I live in Western PA and have been reseaching the court house and graves.Let
me know who you are researching and I may be of some assistance.
I am looking for Rebecca and Jesabel Elder....think their father was Thomas
Elder.

Rebecca Elder  b. about 1807 and married William McNeil 1835 in Elders Ridge.
She died 14 October 1862 in Conemaugh Twp. in Elders Ridge area.

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: elderbrooks

From: Harry Issac Sharp <patroon@IBM.NET>
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 19:27:37 -0400

Did you by any chance just double up your message to me?  I just answered an
Elder inquiry, but did not save the message until I get a return interested in
further discussion.  If my return message was not to you, please come back and I
will give you my Elder Line.  Harry

Ether43@aol.com wrote:

> I live in Western PA and have been reseaching the court house and graves.Let
> me know who you are researching and I may be of some assistance.
> I am looking for Rebecca and Jesabel Elder....think their father was Thomas
> Elder.
>
> Rebecca Elder  b. about 1807 and married William McNeil 1835 in Elders Ridge.
> She died 14 October 1862 in Conemaugh Twp. in Elders Ridge area.

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: elderbrooks

From: Ether43@aol.com
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 19:52:22 EDT

No, you didn't reply to me but I thought I might be of some assistance to
those researching the Elder's in Western PA.
I found wills, land deeds, and tombstones but not for the ones i have been
looking for. Think I need to go to Armstrong County as Elder's Ridge is very
close.

Nancy Monahan

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: elderbrooks

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 20:16:55 -0400

Hi, which letter(s) was it, I will send you a copy..send your snail mail
address please. This is part of my search for my ancestor's "home" Samuel
Elder who d. 1809 in TN.

Ann
-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Issac Sharp <patroon@IBM.NET>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Monday, August 03, 1998 10:18 AM
Subject: [Elder-News]: elderbrooks


>I just received the Elderbrooks letters, but managed to delete the first
>letter before copying to file.  Can I possibly get a copy of this
>letter?  Incidentally, there are two of us who are currently researching
>an Elder Branch in Western Penna.  Would like to share info.  Harry
>
>

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: elderbrooks

From: Donna Logan <fanfare@intrepid.net>
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 21:05:52 -0400

Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 21:06:17 +0200
To: elder-news@intrepid.net
From: glm2@psu.edu (Gary L. Messing)
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: elderbrooks

Dear Nancy and Harry,
        There are several of us who are looking for parents of Margaret
"Peggy" Elder of Toby who married 1825 to George Buzzard in Clarion Co.
The marriage was listed in the abstracts of the Kittanning Gazette,
Kittanning, Armstrong Co, PA.  Peggy has been a mystery for over 10 years
of our searching.  There are several theories about her.  1) daughter of
William Elder   2) daughter of Samuel or granddaughter  3) one thought is
that her maiden name is Mong and that she married an Elder.  She was born
about 1807.  She is not the daughter of John Elder and Catherine Buchanan.
She is listed in the 1850 census with George and family, but not in 1860.
In George's will in 1865 he mentions wife, Mary, but it is not known if
this is second wife or another name for Peggy.  If you should find anything
about her, there are many who would thank you.  Also if you happen to know
anything about  a William Freeman with a daughter, Mary, she had a son
James who married Peggy and George's daughter, Rachel.  James' father was
Henry Wurts, but he never married Mary.  James was raised at his
grandfather's and was called James Freeman.  (at some point he did know his
father, because his pension file says that when he was with his father in
Ohio he went by James Wurts.  His pension file shows name James Wurts
Freeman.  Thanks for any assistance.
Becky Messing  814 W. Foster Ave, State College, PA  16801   814-234-0561.

>No, you didn't reply to me but I thought I might be of some assistance to
>those researching the Elder's in Western PA.
>I found wills, land deeds, and tombstones but not for the ones i have been
>looking for. Think I need to go to Armstrong County as Elder's Ridge is very
>close.
>
>Nancy Monahan

Becky Messing
814 W. Foster Ave
State College, PA  16801
(814) 234-0561
glm2@email.psu.edu

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: elderbrooks

From: Harry Issac Sharp <patroon@IBM.NET>
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 09:52:52 -0400

I might be able to help some, but let me give you another research who may be
able to also help.  His name is Keith Elder.  Between us we have been trying to
verify our line which was originally put together by Robert Stevenson in his
Magee Family History.  This book is on route back to me.  When I arrives, I will
search for your people.  Keith is at <Keithelder@aol.com>.  He is very helpful.
Come back to me after you talk with him.  Harry

Donna Logan wrote:

> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 21:06:17 +0200
> To: elder-news@intrepid.net
> From: glm2@psu.edu (Gary L. Messing)
> Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: elderbrooks
>
> Dear Nancy and Harry,
>         There are several of us who are looking for parents of Margaret
> "Peggy" Elder of Toby who married 1825 to George Buzzard in Clarion Co.
> The marriage was listed in the abstracts of the Kittanning Gazette,
> Kittanning, Armstrong Co, PA.  Peggy has been a mystery for over 10 years
> of our searching.  There are several theories about her.  1) daughter of
> William Elder   2) daughter of Samuel or granddaughter  3) one thought is
> that her maiden name is Mong and that she married an Elder.  She was born
> about 1807.  She is not the daughter of John Elder and Catherine Buchanan.
> She is listed in the 1850 census with George and family, but not in 1860.
> In George's will in 1865 he mentions wife, Mary, but it is not known if
> this is second wife or another name for Peggy.  If you should find anything
> about her, there are many who would thank you.  Also if you happen to know
> anything about  a William Freeman with a daughter, Mary, she had a son
> James who married Peggy and George's daughter, Rachel.  James' father was
> Henry Wurts, but he never married Mary.  James was raised at his
> grandfather's and was called James Freeman.  (at some point he did know his
> father, because his pension file says that when he was with his father in
> Ohio he went by James Wurts.  His pension file shows name James Wurts
> Freeman.  Thanks for any assistance.
> Becky Messing  814 W. Foster Ave, State College, PA  16801   814-234-0561.
>
> >No, you didn't reply to me but I thought I might be of some assistance to
> >those researching the Elder's in Western PA.
> >I found wills, land deeds, and tombstones but not for the ones i have been
> >looking for. Think I need to go to Armstrong County as Elder's Ridge is very
> >close.
> >
> >Nancy Monahan
>
> Becky Messing
> 814 W. Foster Ave
> State College, PA  16801
> (814) 234-0561
> glm2@email.psu.edu

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Samuel to Thomas to Anna research

From: Harry Issac Sharp <patroon@IBM.NET>
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 09:15:15 -0400

Requesting any research which will help a group of Elder Researchers
establish our Elder Family Line to be correct.  We have Martha Elder b
1779 d 1862 m to James Munnell and having lived in Princeton (was
Beaver-Mercer) now Lawrence Co, Pa.  Martha's parents were Nancy Rose
and John Elder b 1755 d 1836 and John's father was Thomas Elder born in
Ireland.  Would like to share information with other Elder researchers.
Harry

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Samuel to Thomas to Anna research

From: JJSlaton@aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:43:36 EDT

Hi Harry,
Sorry I can't help with your Pa Elders. My Mathew Elder was in York Co Pa by
at leat 1750s , then went to Botetort Co VA  & on to Washington Co Va where he
died in 1783. I only have data concwerning Mathew's descendents and no
knowledge of any connection to any other Pa Elders.
Good luck.
Joyce J. Slaton 

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Looking for J. B. Hitt

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 20:35:30 -0400

I have lost J.B. Hitt's email # (he is an Elder).  If your around please
write. Ann   elderbrooks@msn.com
Thank to all....

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Subject: [Elder-News]: New ELDER photos up on web page!

From: Rob & Heather Williams <will7370@tao.sou.edu>
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 10:10:04 -0700

Hi folks,

Donna has put up my photos on the ELDER web page.  The main
URL is:

http://www.intrepid.net/genealogy/elder/index.html

There you will find a link to photos of the Andrew SHRADER
and Rebecca ELDER Family of Ellis County, Texas.  Rebecca
was the daughter of Charles ELDER, born 1807 and his second
wife Rachel Narsisus BRYAN, born 1825.

Any questions about these photos, feel free to contact me.

Take care,

Robert
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Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder pictures

From: DHoward575@aol.com
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:30:36 EDT

The pictures that I have mentioned to you have just been added to the Elder
Genealogy website. You can click on the address below to get to the website,
then follow the prompts under the Photo section. The pictures of David Elder
and John Elder have not been added yet because they are on loan.

Elder website:  <A HREF="http://www.intrepid.net/genealogy/elder/">Elder
Surname - Family Research</A> 

My Genealogy web page (contains information about the people in the photos)
 <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/o/w/David-E-Howard/">Family
Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: User Home...</A>

David 

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder Cemetary in Mississippi

From: DHoward575@aol.com
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:51:39 EDT

This is a picture of a plaque that lies in the gateway of the Elder Cemetary
just outside of Moss Point, Mississippi. It lists everyone that is buried at
this cemetary. This Elder family originated in the Falmouth, Maine area after
immigrating from North Ireland in the early to mid 1700's.




David Howard 

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder Cemetary in Mississippi

From: DHoward575@aol.com
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:54:26 EDT

In a message dated 8/9/98 3:52:13 PM Central Daylight Time, DHoward575@aol.com
writes:

<< This is a picture of a plaque that lies in the gateway of the Elder
Cemetary
 just outside of Moss Point, Mississippi. It lists everyone that is buried at
 this cemetary. This Elder family originated in the Falmouth, Maine area after
 immigrating from North Ireland in the early to mid 1700's. >>


Sorry everyone. I guess INTREPID would not forword the photos I included in
the email.

David

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder Cemetary in Mississippi

From: Donna Logan <fanfare@intrepid.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:37:54 -0400

At 4:54 PM -0400 8/9/98, you wrote:


> In a message dated 8/9/98 3:52:13 PM Central Daylight Time,
>DHoward575@aol.com
> writes:
>
> << This is a picture of a plaque that lies in the gateway of the Elder
> Cemetary
>  just outside of Moss Point, Mississippi. It lists everyone that is buried at
>  this cemetary. This Elder family originated in the Falmouth, Maine area
>after
>  immigrating from North Ireland in the early to mid 1700's. >>
>
>
> Sorry everyone. I guess INTREPID would not forword the photos I included in
> the email.
>
> David

Hi David,

It's best not to send pictures (or any attachments) to the list - mostly
because there are over 150 people on the list itself, which would mean our
server would have to send the pictures out too all 150 of them.

I'll be happy to post them to the Elder Web Site for you though.

Thanks
donna

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Joseph Elder

From: DHoward575@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 06:47:15 EDT

Does anyone have information on Joseph Elder (born Jul 26, 1757 Maine) and his
wife Hannah Connant (died Apr 9, 1785). I am looking for any information,
especially their children. I know they had two sons: Samuel Tynge and John.

David

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Very Mixed Up Elder's

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 00:45:03 -0400

I've had a very old SAR Application and I know it is wrong.  Establishing
more confusion in the Elder family found in TN of Samuel ELDER.  Considering
the area I feel sure some of you will know what is going on, I hope.
This was 1927-No living person will be mentioned if indeed any of them are.
The applicant will not be named and the name was not ELDER. "I John Smith
apply for membership in this Society by right of lineal descent in the
following line from:
William ELDER who was born in PA. on ____ day of 1848 and died in Daindridge
(Dandridge)ap, Tenn. 1826.
Applicant gives name of his father which is not ELDER but the mother's name
is
Sierra Nevada ELDER b. 1/2/1870 d. 11/20/1922 married 1/15/1894
grandson of Robert Tobier ELDER born 1/16/1835, d. 12/13/1915
and his wife Maria Atchley born 11/20/1843, living, married 8/19/1868
great-grandson of  John M. ELDER b. 1806, died 1890 and
his wife Mary (Polly) VERNON born 1809, died March 1886, married 1827
great-great-grandson Robert ELDER b. 2/16/1782, died 8/6/1863 and
his wife Sarah MOORE born 1784, died 9/26/1840, married 1802
great-great-great-grandson of William ELDER born 1748 died 1826 and his wife
No name recorded - Only record born 1740 died 1800? married 1st no record
the following has been lined through---Only Record born 1749 died 1800? 2nd
marriage--all lined through
The said William ELDER is the ancestor who assisted in establishing American
Independence while acting in the capacity of Private Pennsylvania and "North
Carolina - Tennessee Continental Army...
Tennessee Continental Army lined through, no state of Tenn. then.

More to follow....I know who the people are, I do not think any of the other
material is correct, you PA cousins should know what this is all about,
please.  Thank you, Ann

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Part II SONS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 00:52:54 -0400

William ELDER said to be this Rev War soldier-" References for the record of
my ancestor's service:
Penn. Archives, pages 237 - 603, Vol. IV - 5th Series; Baptist Church
Records, Decatur and Daindridge, Tenn.---Tenn. State Records, Department of
Education, Page 1054 - Vol. 16--County Records - Meigs and Jefferson
Counties - Tennessee--Town Records, Decatur and Daindridge, Tennessee."
(Daindrige is Dandridge, these ELDER'S were members of Dumplin Baptist
Church when in Jefferson Co., and no Rev War service is given in these
church minutes.  My reason for this is to try and clear it up, not to
continue confusing these lines.  Thanks again, have more to go...Ann

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Part III SAR Application

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 01:01:01 -0400

William ELDER said to be the Rev War soldier - "Private Penn & "NC - TN"
Continental Army-Department of Public Instruction Penn. State Lib. & Museum,
Frederick A. Godcharles, Director, Harrisburg.  Division of Archives and
History, Hiram H. Shenk, Archivist, Jessica C. Ferguson, Genealogist.  TO
WHOM IT MAY CONCERN    November 29, 1927---I hereby Certify that the name of
WILLIAM ELDER appears as Pvt on a Depreciation Pay List of Bedford County
Militia, Continental Line, in the War of the Rev.---The name of WILLIAM
ELDER also appears as Pvt. on a List of Soldiers of the Rev from Bedford
Co., Continental Line, in the War of the Rev.  See pages 237 and 603, Vol
IV, Penn Archives, Fifth Series.  H. H. Shenk, Archvist--
One more and that is all..thank you.  Ann

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Part IV SAR APP

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 01:09:20 -0400

William ELDER - State of TN Dept of Education, P. L. Harned, Comm.,
Nashville. Div. of Lib and Archives John Trotwood Moore, Librarian &
Archivist, Dec 17th 1927.  IN RE-WILLIAM ELDER Tenn was a part of NC during
the Rev War & records of her soldiers are found in NC Records.  In the State
Records, Vol 16, Page 1054, is recorded the name of William ELDER& it is the
only one of the name on the Roster of the Cont. Line from "NC-TN" #1783 -
private, 10th Reg. Capt. Carters Co, Enlisted May 1st, 1781 for 12 mos.,
Time out June 1st, 1782..John Trotwood Moore, Lib & Archivist by Mrs.
J.T.W."   These ELDER'S are all one family, Robert & William ELDER were
brothers named in the will of their father Samuel H. Elder whose will was
proven in court 1811, Sevier Co., TN. The others happens to be descendants
of Robert ELDER and his (1) Sarah MOORE.  By proving the William ELDER from
Bedford will put this to sleep.  This was done in 1927.  Please correct if
you can, I think you can.  Thank you for your time, Ann

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Re: Part IV SAR APP

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 01:30:59 -0400

-----Original Message-----
From: elderbrooks <elderbrooks@msn.com>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Sunday, August 16, 1998 1:09 AM
Subject: Part IV SAR APP


>William ELDER - State of TN Dept of Education, P. L. Harned, Comm.,
>Nashville. Div. of Lib and Archives John Trotwood Moore, Librarian &
>Archivist, Dec 17th 1927.  IN RE-WILLIAM ELDER Tenn was a part of NC during
>the Rev War & records of her soldiers are found in NC Records.  In the
State
>Records, Vol 16, Page 1054, is recorded the name of William ELDER& it is
the
>only one of the name on the Roster of the Cont. Line from "NC-TN" #1783 -
>private, 10th Reg. Capt. Carters Co, Enlisted May 1st, 1781 for 12 mos.,
>Time out June 1st, 1782..John Trotwood Moore, Lib & Archivist by Mrs.
>J.T.W."   These ELDER'S are all one family, Robert & William ELDER were
>brothers named in the will of their father Samuel H. Elder whose will was
>proven in court 1811, Sevier Co., TN. The others happens to be descendants
>of Robert ELDER and his (1) Sarah MOORE.  By proving the William ELDER from
>Bedford will put this to sleep.  This was done in 1927.  Please correct if
>you can, I think you can.  Thank you for your time, Ann
>
>

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Part IV SAR APP

From: Faye Elder <elder1@flash.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 08:41:26 -0500

I know that my husband's Elder family is from Bedford County PA but I
can't place Henry Elder with a particular family.  Any ideas??
Faye

elderbrooks wrote:
> 
> William ELDER - State of TN Dept of Education, P. L. Harned, Comm.,
> Nashville. Div. of Lib and Archives John Trotwood Moore, Librarian &
> Archivist, Dec 17th 1927.  IN RE-WILLIAM ELDER Tenn was a part of NC during
> the Rev War & records of her soldiers are found in NC Records.  In the State
> Records, Vol 16, Page 1054, is recorded the name of William ELDER& it is the
> only one of the name on the Roster of the Cont. Line from "NC-TN" #1783 -
> private, 10th Reg. Capt. Carters Co, Enlisted May 1st, 1781 for 12 mos.,
> Time out June 1st, 1782..John Trotwood Moore, Lib & Archivist by Mrs.
> J.T.W."   These ELDER'S are all one family, Robert & William ELDER were
> brothers named in the will of their father Samuel H. Elder whose will was
> proven in court 1811, Sevier Co., TN. The others happens to be descendants
> of Robert ELDER and his (1) Sarah MOORE.  By proving the William ELDER from
> Bedford will put this to sleep.  This was done in 1927.  Please correct if
> you can, I think you can.  Thank you for your time, Ann

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Part IV SAR APP

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 12:16:45 -0400

Faye addressed Part IV of the SAR Application...I wanted to answer on the
ELDER - News
I intended no confusion to anyone, I am aware that these ELDER'S on the SAR
App. were not from Bedford Co., Penn.  The younger ones were already living
in Jefferson Co., TN and Meigs Co., TN.  This Rev War service must belong to
someone?  The William ELDER & Robert ELDER were brothers-the others were
descendants of Robert ELDER who had moved to Meigs Co., TN. when the
Hiawassee lands opened and the property was "open sell".  The names are of
one family line, but do not go to Bedford Co. PA.
So sorry if I confused anyone.  Ann

-----Original Message-----
From: Faye Elder <elder1@flash.net>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Sunday, August 16, 1998 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Part IV SAR APP


>I know that my husband's Elder family is from Bedford County PA but I
>can't place Henry Elder with a particular family.  Any ideas??
>Faye
>
>elderbrooks wrote:
>>
>> William ELDER - State of TN Dept of Education, P. L. Harned, Comm.,
>> Nashville. Div. of Lib and Archives John Trotwood Moore, Librarian &
>> Archivist, Dec 17th 1927.  IN RE-WILLIAM ELDER Tenn was a part of NC
during
>> the Rev War & records of her soldiers are found in NC Records.  In the
State
>> Records, Vol 16, Page 1054, is recorded the name of William ELDER& it is
the
>> only one of the name on the Roster of the Cont. Line from "NC-TN" #1783 -
>> private, 10th Reg. Capt. Carters Co, Enlisted May 1st, 1781 for 12 mos.,
>> Time out June 1st, 1782..John Trotwood Moore, Lib & Archivist by Mrs.
>> J.T.W."   These ELDER'S are all one family, Robert & William ELDER were
>> brothers named in the will of their father Samuel H. Elder whose will was
>> proven in court 1811, Sevier Co., TN. The others happens to be
descendants
>> of Robert ELDER and his (1) Sarah MOORE.  By proving the William ELDER
from
>> Bedford will put this to sleep.  This was done in 1927.  Please correct
if
>> you can, I think you can.  Thank you for your time, Ann
>

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Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 15:21:29 -0400

I posted a SAR Application in four parts, the people on the app. are not the
correct ELDER'S. I hope that  some of you who know the Bedford Co Elder's
might help.  The SAR App. is totally wrong.
Robert ELDER, son of Samuel and Hannah ELDER is the ancestor to I think all
of the following Elder's.
Sarah ATCHLET b. Jan 31, 1843   mar:  Robt. Tobias ELDER  (not Tobier)
Delilah Ellen Atchley b. Apr 17, 1850 m. John Gunn ELDER
"Delilah Ellen (Atchley) ELDER, b. Apr 17, 1850, in Gooden Hollow near
Lebanon, MO..
Delilah mar: John Gunn ELDER  July 19, 1868.  They had the following
children:
Elizabeth ELDER   b. Aug 18 1869 d. Mar 30, 1916
Harry ELDER b. Sept 18, 1871 d. Oct 25, 1925 married Florence Finch
Gertrude ELDER b. Feb 10, 1874 mar: (1) Elmer E. Brown, (2) Henry Ofdenkamp
Samuel J. ELDER b Oct 18, 1876 d. Apr 14, 1906 mar. Norma Huson
Katherine ELDER b. Dec 26, 1882 mar. Andrew Maier
Miles Macon ELDER b. Nov. 11, 1886  mar:  Hilda V. Bevan(Miles was the
g-grandson of Robert & Sarah (MOORE) ELDER. (Maud Horn's ATCHLEY FAMILY
HISTORY, Second Edition by Dr. Paul L. Atchley and Mary Ann Morris Thompson,
Knoxville, TN, 1965, p. 215) To Be Continued.  Ann

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Continued, part 2

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 15:41:22 -0400

ELDER-Continued from the list of ELDER'S ending with Miles Macon ELDER.
Abt. 1886 the family just listed moved to CA.  Lived for a short time on
Bear River, in Placer County, CA. then moved to Auburn, Placer Co., CA. in
1916 moved to Sacramento where Delilah E. ELDER lived until 1929.  John Gunn
ELDER b. Feb 8, 1847 was killed in an automobile accident, March 15, 1925.
John Gunn ELDER was the son of John Moore ELDER and Mary Ann Vernon ELDER.
2. Elizabeth ELDER b Leclede Co., MO, Aug 8, 1869; d. March 30, 1916.
Married twice.
3. Harry ELDER b Sept 18, 1871, in Leclede Co., MO.; d. Oct 25, 1925. Mar.
to Florence Finch, they had one son born 1909, Ward ELDER.
4. Gertrude ELDER  b. Feb 10, 1874, Leclede Co., MO. mar: (1) Elmer E. Brown
they had the following children, Sidney Brown b. 1899, Miles Brown b. 1904,
Clinton Brown, Harvey Brown, Grace Brown, b. 1916.
Gertrude ELDER BROWN m. (2) Henry OFDENKAMP. No known children.  To be
continued part 3. Ann

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder of Robert Elder to Samuel Elder part 3

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 15:50:27 -0400

Samuel Jay ELDER, b. Oct 18, 1879, Leclede Co., MO; died April 14, 1907.
Mar: Nora Huson.
Edward Houston ELDER, b. June 16, 1879, Leclede Co., MO. a son of John Gunn
ELDER and Delilah Ellen ATCHLEY ELDER. Mar. Alda M. Rycen, No known
children.
Katherine ELDER b Dec 26, 1882 in Leclede Co MO, a daughter of John Gunn
ELDER & Delilah Ellen ATCHLET ELDER. Mar. Andrew Maier.(Maud Horn's ATCHLET
FAMILY HISTORY, Second Edition by Dr. Paul L. Atchley and Mary Ann Morris
Thompson, Knoxville, TN, 1965, p. 216)  Ann Poe Still to be continued...

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Ancestor's of Robert Elder part 4

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 16:05:27 -0400

Miles Macon ELDER, b. Nov. 11, 1886, at Iron Mine, near Bear River, Placer
County, CA., youngest son of John Gunn & Delilah E. (ATCHLEY) ELDER.
"Completed Auburn Grammar School, 1905; four year commercial course, Place
County High School, graduating 1910; graduate of Saint Matthews Military
School, War Department Class A, 1913; Burlingame College Liberal Arts;
University of Nevada three years. Member of Episcopal Church. Married May 26
____ in San Francisco to Hilda Victoria BEVAN"and they had the following
children:
Vernon Bevan ELDER b. Aug 16,
Jane Astrid ELDER b. Oct 5,
Wm Eustace ELDER, b. May 7....I have left the years off, they may very well
be living. aebp
(Maud Horn's ATCHLEY FAMILY HISTORY, Second Edition by Dr. Paul L. Atchley
and Mary Ann Morris, Knoxville, TN., 1965, page 216 & other sources i e
census, Tenn State Library and Archives; there is a vertical file in
Nashville which contains some of Miles Macon Elder's correspondence to the
Moore's as well as his opinion's and some of his searching when he came to
Tenn. "to find his roots"). Ann Poe, last part #5.

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Part 4, Robert Elder ancestor of all the ones written about.

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 16:13:18 -0400

Miles Macon Elder: National Guard, Infantry, 2nd Co.F; four years Coast
Artillery; Ca. National Guard, three years; Second LT, 1 year; commissioned
Officer, Field Artillery, U.S. Army, 1917 - 20; promoted to Capt.;  and
more..
Hlda Victoria Bevan ELDER, dau. of Edmund Eustace Bevan and Astrid Anderson
( the latter of Gothenberg, Sweden).  At the time Maud Horn wrote this book,
Miles gave his home address which in in this book.  Not all of this
information came from ATCHLEY FAMILY HISTORY, they certainly did some fine
research.

A suggestion to anyone looking for more information on Miles Macon ELDER, as
he was in the service during the time period of World War I, that
information is now available.  Thanks for putting up with me.  Ann Poe

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Ancestor's of Robert Elder part 4

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 16:21:44 -0400

Miles Macon ELDER, b. Nov. 11, 1886, at Iron Mine, near Bear River, Placer
County, CA., youngest son of John Gunn & Delilah E. (ATCHLEY) ELDER.
"Completed Auburn Grammar School, 1905; four year commercial course, Place
County High School, graduating 1910; graduate of Saint Matthews Military
School, War Department Class A, 1913; Burlingame College Liberal Arts;
University of Nevada three years. Member of Episcopal Church. Married May 26
____ in San Francisco to Hilda Victoria BEVAN"and they had the following
children:
Vernon Bevan ELDER b. Aug 16,
Jane Astrid ELDER b. Oct 5,
Wm Eustace ELDER, b. May 7....I have left the years off, they may very well
be living. aebp
(Maud Horn's ATCHLEY FAMILY HISTORY, Second Edition by Dr. Paul L. Atchley
and Mary Ann Morris, Knoxville, TN., 1965, page 216 & other sources i e
census, Tenn State Library and Archives; there is a vertical file in
Nashville which contains some of Miles Macon Elder's correspondence to the
Moore's as well as his opinion's and some of his searching when he came to
Tenn. "to find his roots"). Ann Poe, last part #5.

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Fw: Ancestor's of Robert Elder part 4

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 16:25:31 -0400

I may be duplicating, my server is fussing with me..Ann
-----Original Message-----
From: elderbrooks <elderbrooks@msn.com>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Sunday, August 16, 1998 4:21 PM
Subject: Ancestor's of Robert Elder part 4


>Miles Macon ELDER, b. Nov. 11, 1886, at Iron Mine, near Bear River, Placer
>County, CA., youngest son of John Gunn & Delilah E. (ATCHLEY) ELDER.
>"Completed Auburn Grammar School, 1905; four year commercial course, Place
>County High School, graduating 1910; graduate of Saint Matthews Military
>School, War Department Class A, 1913; Burlingame College Liberal Arts;
>University of Nevada three years. Member of Episcopal Church. Married May
26
>____ in San Francisco to Hilda Victoria BEVAN"and they had the following
>children:
>Vernon Bevan ELDER b. Aug 16,
>Jane Astrid ELDER b. Oct 5,
>Wm Eustace ELDER, b. May 7....I have left the years off, they may very well
>be living. aebp
>(Maud Horn's ATCHLEY FAMILY HISTORY, Second Edition by Dr. Paul L. Atchley
>and Mary Ann Morris, Knoxville, TN., 1965, page 216 & other sources i e
>census, Tenn State Library and Archives; there is a vertical file in
>Nashville which contains some of Miles Macon Elder's correspondence to the
>Moore's as well as his opinion's and some of his searching when he came to
>Tenn. "to find his roots"). Ann Poe, last part #5.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: A Question about the North Irish/Scottish Elders

From: Francis & Mary Lou Smith <fmsmith@dibbs.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 07:58:53 -0500

Hi David,
  See if any of these Elders are in your family.  This is all I have.

Francis in Mobile, AL
========================================================================

Descendants of Samuel Elder


Generation No. 1

	1.  Samuel2 Elder  (?1) was born in Artemore, Antrim Co., Ireland, and
died Bef. 1759 in Windham, Maine.  He married ? Huston.
	
Children of Samuel Elder and ? Huston are:
+	2	i.	William3 Elder, born Abt. 1726 in Ireland.
	3	ii.	Robert Elder.


Generation No. 2

	2.  William3 Elder (Samuel2, ?1) was born Abt. 1726 in Ireland.  He
married Mary Akers.
	
Children of William Elder and Mary Akers are:
+	4	i.	Joseph4 Elder, born July 26, 1757 in Northern Ireland  (Maine?).
+	5	ii.	John R. Elder, Sr., born April 13, 1760 in Ireland; died April
27, 1857 in Booths Creek, Taylor Co., W. VA..


Generation No. 3

	4.  Joseph4 Elder (William3, Samuel2, ?1) was born July 26, 1757 in
Northern Ireland  (Maine?).  He married (1) Ann Morrill Bef. 1781.  He
married (2) Hannah Conant January 1781.
	
Children of Joseph Elder and Hannah Conant are:
+	6	i.	Samuel Tyng5 Elder, Sr., born April 18, 1784 in Portland, ME;
died December 01, 1829 in Moss Point, Jackson Co., MS.
	7	ii.	John S. Elder, born April 18, 1784.

	5.  John R.4 Elder, Sr. (William3, Samuel2, ?1) was born April 13, 1760
in Ireland, and died April 27, 1857 in Booths Creek, Taylor Co., W.
VA..  He married (1) Margaret McHenry in New York.  He married (2) Agnes
Ryley.
	
Children of John Elder and Margaret McHenry are:
	8	i.	Catherine5 Elder.
+	9	ii.	Mary Elder, born 1794 in New York; died Bef. 1823 in Taylor Co.,
W. VA..
+	10	iii.	Joseph Elder, Sr., born July 31, 1796 in Harrison Co., W. VA;
died October 03, 1877 in Alvy, Tyler Co., W. VA.
	11	iv.	Margaret Elder, born May 13, 1798.
	12	v.	Elizabeth Elder, born 1801.
	13	vi.	William Kendrick Elder, born March 01, 1806 in Harrison Co., W.
VA; died March 11, 1891.
	14	vii.	Sarah Elder, born 1809.
	
Children of John Elder and Agnes Ryley are:
	15	i.	Samuel5 Elder, born 1818.
	16	ii.	John R. Elder, Jr., born 1824.


Generation No. 4

	6.  Samuel Tyng5 Elder, Sr. (Joseph4, William3, Samuel2, ?1) was born
April 18, 1784 in Portland, ME, and died December 01, 1829 in Moss
Point, Jackson Co., MS.  He married Mary Burissa Walker February 10,
1814 in Elbert Co., GA.
	
Children of Samuel Elder and Mary Walker are:
	17	i.	James Walker6 Elder, born February 28, 1815.  He married Louisa
Wyatt.
+	18	ii.	William Graham Elder, born February 22, 1817 in Elbert Co., GA;
died July 13, 1886 in Moss Point (Elders Ferry), Jackson Co., MS.
	19	iii.	John S. Elder, born March 28, 1819.
	20	iv.	John W. Elder, born October 16, 1821.
	21	v.	Andrew Jackson Elder, born August 31, 1824.
	22	vi.	Eleanor J. Elder, born July 20, 1827.
	23	vii.	Burissa Jane Elder, born April 24, 1830; died January 11, 1917.
	24	viii.	Samuel Tyng Elder, Jr, born April 24, 1830; died January 11,
1917.

	9.  Mary5 Elder (John R.4, William3, Samuel2, ?1) was born 1794 in New
York, and died Bef. 1823 in Taylor Co., W. VA..  She married Sanford
Singleton.
	
Children of Mary Elder and Sanford Singleton are:
	25	i.	Lurans6 Singleton, born November 29, 1814.
	26	ii.	Sarah Singleton, born May 07, 1816.

	10.  Joseph5 Elder, Sr. (John R.4, William3, Samuel2, ?1) was born July
31, 1796 in Harrison Co., W. VA, and died October 03, 1877 in Alvy,
Tyler Co., W. VA.  He married (1) Elizabeth Shields December 09, 1819 in
Harrison Co., W. VA, daughter of William Shields and Margaret
Kincheloe.  He married (2) Nancy Ann Binegar May 25, 1843, daughter of
Samuel Binegar and Judith Smith.
	
Children of Joseph Elder and Elizabeth Shields are:
	27	i.	William6 Elder, born February 12, 1821 in Harrison Co., W. VA;
died September 10, 1893.
	28	ii.	John Elder, born May 03, 1822.
	29	iii.	Margaret Elder, born January 09, 1824.
	30	iv.	James Elder, born June 14, 1829.
	31	v.	Elizabeth Elder, born April 06, 1831.
	32	vi.	Joseph Elder, Jr., born April 20, 1833.
	33	vii.	Daniel Elder, born 1836.
	34	viii.	Ross Elder, born September 04, 1839.


Generation No. 5

	18.  William Graham6 Elder (Samuel Tyng5, Joseph4, William3, Samuel2,
?1) was born February 22, 1817 in Elbert Co., GA, and died July 13, 1886
in Moss Point (Elders Ferry), Jackson Co., MS.  He married (1) Harriet
L. McRear January 14, 1847.  He married (2) Harriet Dozier November 11,
1875.
	
Children of William Elder and Harriet McRear are:
+	35	i.	Samuel Tyng7 ElderIII, born September 14, 1880 in Moss Point,
Jackson Co., MS; died 1956 in Moss Point, Jackson Co., MS.
	36	ii.	Allen Elder.
	37	iii.	Frederick Elder.


Generation No. 6

	35.  Samuel Tyng7 ElderIII (William Graham6, Samuel Tyng5, Joseph4,
William3, Samuel2, ?1) was born September 14, 1880 in Moss Point,
Jackson Co., MS, and died 1956 in Moss Point, Jackson Co., MS.  He
married Etta Allie Gould March 22, 1900, daughter of Edmond Gould and
Bellva Overacker.
	
Children of Samuel Elder and Etta Gould are:
	38	i.	Julia8 Elder, born 1903 in Moss Point, Jackson Co., MS; died 1983
in Moss Point, Jackson Co., MS.  She married Robert Verbeke.
	39	ii.	Oscar Gould Elder, born 1906 in Moss Point, Jackson Co., MS;
died 1971 in Moss Point, Jackson Co., MS.  He married Esther Hanvelt.
	40	iii.	Violet Elder, born August 23, 1907 in Moss Point, Jackson Co.,
MS; died January 07, 1982 in Moss Point, Jackson Co., MS.  She married
Olen Walter Delancey.
	41	iv.	Hollis Vane Elder, born March 21, 1908 in Moss Point, Jackson
Co., MS.  He married Evelyn Mariam Grube.
	42	v.	Beatrice Elder, born October 28, 1910 in Moss Point, Jackson Co.,
MS; died March 19, 1996 in Savannah, GA.  She married Gerald G.
Townsend.
+	43	vi.	Aldruda May Elder, born May 26, 1921 in Moss Point, Jackson
Co., MS.


Generation No. 7

	43.  Aldruda May8 Elder (Samuel Tyng7, William Graham6, Samuel Tyng5,
Joseph4, William3, Samuel2, ?1) was born May 26, 1921 in Moss Point,
Jackson Co., MS.  She married Elmer Dyer Hines, Jr., son of Elmer Hines
and Wilhelmenia Thomas.
	
Children of Aldruda Elder and Elmer Hines are:
	44	i.	Francis Lamar9 Hines, born 1941.
	45	ii.	Linda Kay Hines, born January 17, 1943 in Mobile, Mobile Co.,
AL.  She married Thomas Earl Howard December 09, 1961 in Grand Bay,
Mobile Co., AL.
	46	iii.	Robert Hines, born Abt. 1945.
	47	iv.	Jacqueline Hines, born Abt. 1947.



DHoward575@aol.com wrote:
> 
> I am descended from Samuel Elder born abt 1692 in Artemore, County Antrim,
> North Ireland. I have been told, from various sources, that he had a brother
> named John Elder (born abt 1690), and their father was a John Elder (estimated
> born 1650-1675).
> 
> Does anyone have any information on other siblings born in County Antrim, NI.
> I have a suspicion that my ancestors that emmigrated to Falmouth, Maine and
> some of the Elders that emmigrated to Pennsylvania might be related.  I have
> seen on various websites that other Elders were born in County Antrim and
> about the same time as Samuel and John.  Could they be siblings?
> 
> Deep in Thought,
> David

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Ancestor's of Robert Elder part 4

From: Susan Vallejo <svallejo@pobox.alaska.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 07:08:52 -0800

Hi Ann
any idea where I can get a copy of the book Atchley Family History?
Is it on the market or just so many copies printed for family study only?
Susan in Alaska




At 04:05 PM 8/16/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Miles Macon ELDER, b. Nov. 11, 1886, at Iron Mine, near Bear River, Placer
>County, CA., youngest son of John Gunn & Delilah E. (ATCHLEY) ELDER.
>"Completed Auburn Grammar School, 1905; four year commercial course, Place
>County High School, graduating 1910; graduate of Saint Matthews Military
>School, War Department Class A, 1913; Burlingame College Liberal Arts;
>University of Nevada three years. Member of Episcopal Church. Married May 26
>____ in San Francisco to Hilda Victoria BEVAN"and they had the following
>children:
>Vernon Bevan ELDER b. Aug 16,
>Jane Astrid ELDER b. Oct 5,
>Wm Eustace ELDER, b. May 7....I have left the years off, they may very well
>be living. aebp
>(Maud Horn's ATCHLEY FAMILY HISTORY, Second Edition by Dr. Paul L. Atchley
>and Mary Ann Morris, Knoxville, TN., 1965, page 216 & other sources i e
>census, Tenn State Library and Archives; there is a vertical file in
>Nashville which contains some of Miles Macon Elder's correspondence to the
>Moore's as well as his opinion's and some of his searching when he came to
>Tenn. "to find his roots"). Ann Poe, last part #5.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER Placer County Calif high school grads

From: Susan Vallejo <svallejo@pobox.alaska.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 07:35:03 -0800

Aug 17, 1998
These Elders were graduate of Placer County High School in Auburn, CA.
This info was sent to me today by a friend in Calif who has ALL the
yearbooks of Placer High.
The year of graduation is posted with first names.
My grandfather is Miles Macon Elder....in school went by Macon only.
Later in life due to his having travelled the world, added MILES as his
first name.
What a guy....I love travel and have been just about everywhere and can't
keep my dad Vernon Elder
down either. Even at 84 (birthday was Aug 16) he is 'on the go' and loves to
take cruises nowadays.
Susan Elder Vallejo in Anchorage, Alaska

>Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 10:13:55 EDT
>To: svallejo@pobox.alaska.net

>
>Susan,
>    Bingo!   Macon Elder  1910 hows that. 
>Also
>April 1975 
>Clay 1948
>Jason 1992
>Jerry 1963
>Jerry 1987
>Joe 1929
>Lillian 1961
>Renee 1972
>Robert 1933
>Susan 1971
>Tim 1974
>Vera 1948
>
>Thats all the book has hope this helps.  Placer has a website I will look it
>up and let you know later.
>Walt
>
>

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Ancestor's of Robert Elder part 4

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 21:03:53 -0400

Susan,

The Atchley Family History was last published in 1965.  It is a wonderful
book.  If you will contact book dealers and locate those who deal in
genealogy books you will probably find one.  I knew two but they were at
home, Knoxville and both have retired.  I had a name of a man in
Rogersville, TN. but I cannot locate it.  I think that Amazon books has a
search program, I contacted them under genealogy, once I made it through
that area I could list a book/books I was looking for.  I do not know how
many list you are on, but you might want to try some of those lists.  I know
one the authors, or did know her, I do not think we should mention her, she
was at the University of Tenn. a couple of years before my husband.  She was
a beauty queen, and had the brains to go with it, a very sweet person.  I do
not know her husband, but maybe I can find out.  I will try.  It just dawned
on me we are on the elder-news <G>  Ann
-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Vallejo <svallejo@pobox.alaska.net>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Monday, August 17, 1998 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Ancestor's of Robert Elder part 4


>Hi Ann
>any idea where I can get a copy of the book Atchley Family History?
>Is it on the market or just so many copies printed for family study only?
>Susan in Alaska
>
>
>
>
>At 04:05 PM 8/16/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>Miles Macon ELDER, b. Nov. 11, 1886, at Iron Mine, near Bear River, Placer
>>County, CA., youngest son of John Gunn & Delilah E. (ATCHLEY) ELDER.
>>"Completed Auburn Grammar School, 1905; four year commercial course, Place
>>County High School, graduating 1910; graduate of Saint Matthews Military
>>School, War Department Class A, 1913; Burlingame College Liberal Arts;
>>University of Nevada three years. Member of Episcopal Church. Married May
26
>>____ in San Francisco to Hilda Victoria BEVAN"and they had the following
>>children:
>>Vernon Bevan ELDER b. Aug 16,
>>Jane Astrid ELDER b. Oct 5,
>>Wm Eustace ELDER, b. May 7....I have left the years off, they may very
well
>>be living. aebp
>>(Maud Horn's ATCHLEY FAMILY HISTORY, Second Edition by Dr. Paul L. Atchley
>>and Mary Ann Morris, Knoxville, TN., 1965, page 216 & other sources i e
>>census, Tenn State Library and Archives; there is a vertical file in
>>Nashville which contains some of Miles Macon Elder's correspondence to the
>>Moore's as well as his opinion's and some of his searching when he came to
>>Tenn. "to find his roots"). Ann Poe, last part #5.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Subject: [Elder-News]: George W. Elder of Clarion Co.

From: Wjelder@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 02:03:52 EDT

Am looking for info on the family and ancestors of George W. Elder who lived
in 1860 in Licking Twp in Clarion Co. and was married to a woman whose last
name was Shafer. 

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Subject: [Elder-News]: George W. Elder of Clarion Co.

From: Terencepau@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:38:56 EDT

Homer Thomas ELDER married Peg KELLEY in Colorado in 1913.
His grandfather was George ELDER, born 1836 in Kentucky.

In what state is Clarion County?

Terence Kelley

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: George W. Elder of Clarion Co.

From: Wjelder@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 15:57:03 EDT

Sorry I didn't make that clear. Clarion Co. is in PA. I don't know if he was
born there or not. Time frame of birth would be about right. I need to get to
the full census records on him.(All I have so far an index). Clarion County PA
is so full of Elder genealogy that someone may have existing history on
George Elder. Thanks for the reply.

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Re:

From: Wjelder@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:12:23 EDT

Thanks for the reply. I don't see any connection at this time but you never
know.

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From: "Thomas Wilson" <twilson@pathwaynet.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 98 15:08:54 PDT

My first time on this list. 

 Here is my Elder History: 
Mother Dorothy Jeane (Elder) Wilson

Grandparents Lester Elder, b. September 7, 1882 in Claypool, Koskiusko
County, Indiana, d. September 3, 1955 in Mt. Pleasant, Michigan.  Married
to Anna Blanche Rowe in about 1919.
Great Grandparents, Francis Marion Elder, b. October 11, 1855 in Claypool,
Koskiusko County, Indiana, d. January 1, 1940.  Married to Lydia Lightcap,
b. November 21, 1861.
Grandfather's siblings were: Ray, b. October 20, 1884; Irvie, b. January 2,
1887; and Aldie Goldie, b. September 5, 1989.

Great Great Grandparents, William Elder, b. abt. 1826 in Ohio, d. July 25,
1904 in Koskiusko County, Indiana, reported to be buried in Center Line
Cemetary, Lake Township, Koskiusko County, Indiana.  William was married to
Sarah Hoppis, b. December 13, 1832, d. May 20, 1901 in Koskiusko County
Indiana, reported to be buried with William.  Francis Marion's siblings
were: Atwood; Cynthia; Elmer; Hilda; Lennie E.; Ola; and Eli, b. 1863.

These Elders ring any bells.  I know little about them outside of my mother
(d. 1996) and my grandfather (namesake Lester) who died  one day after my
8th birthday.  Look forward to communicating with some other Elders.


Thomas Lester Wilson
twilson@pathwaynet.com

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Re: George Washington ELDER

From: Sharhuff@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 23:47:38 EDT

Your George W. ELDER was born 24 May 1832, Licking Tp, now Clrion Co PA.  He
died 14 Nov 1897, Clarinton, Forest Co PA and is buried in Clarington
Methodist Cem, Clarington PA.  His wife's name was Ellen Elvina SHAFFER, b 12
Dec 1831, Lehigh Co PA, d/o Charles P & Saloma (SHANER) SHAFFER.  She died of
cancer in Mar 1891, Clarington.

George was the s/o William Parker ELDER and his wife Mary "Polly" BARR, d/o
Henry & Sarah (ELDER) BARR.  William was s/o James ELDER, Sr., and his first
wife, Catherine BUCHANAN.

For background on this ELDER family, look at the synopsis on our ELDER Website
of my book "Descendants of James ELDER, Sr., of Armstrong and Clarion Cos PA.
Purchase of the book is not necessary; I will be glad to help you in any way I
can.  Just let me know.

Sharon A. Huffman

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Re: Elder

From: Rlaneb1@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 00:22:03 EDT

Hi again,

There are a lot of coincidences with my family. But I don't think they are the
same unless there is a distant connection.

My first Rev. William Elder came from NC to Sangamon Co., Illinois between
1820-1830. His son, William Elder born 1824 in NC married a Mary Catherine
Sweem in Springfield in 1842. This William Elder ended up in Crawford/Richland
County Wisconsin by 1850. (After a side trip to Marion Co., Iowa)

This William Elder's brother was Elam Elder who settled in Dane Co.,
Wisconsin.  This same William and Mary Catherine Sweem had a son named John
W., Marion Frances Elder (died young), Andrew J. (my line), Franklin. William
had other children as well, with another wife. Some names include Polly,
James, Benjamin, Ester.

As you see, there are many coincidences. I do not know if the Rev. William
Elder from Iredell Co., NC traveled to Ohio or not. I don't think so. These
Elder's were connected with the United Brethren Church of Christ and probably
a Methodist denomination.

Coincidences?  Good luck in your search.
There is an Elder family gen page. You might have luck searching there.

Rebecca Bangsund
rlaneb1@aol.com

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re: Elder

From: Wjelder@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 00:53:40 EDT

Thanks. I do not think we are talking about the same Elders. I have gotten
some very definite hits off of the Elder gen pg. Thanks again and good luck.

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re: George Washington ELDER

From: Wjelder@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 01:45:25 EDT

Are Clairinton and and Clarington the same place?

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: George W. Elder of Clarion Co.

From: "Sandi Williams" <sandi@madnet.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 00:17:03 -0700

Hi,
Clarion County is in Pennsylvania.
Sandi
sandi@madnet.net
Fax (209)662-1173

----------
From: Terencepau@aol.com
To: elder-news@intrepid.net
Subject: [Elder-News]: George W. Elder of Clarion Co.
Date: Saturday, August 22, 1998 7:38 AM

Homer Thomas ELDER married Peg KELLEY in Colorado in 1913.
His grandfather was George ELDER, born 1836 in Kentucky.

In what state is Clarion County?

Terence Kelley

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Subject: [Elder-News]: I need help with the Children of Joseph Elder

From: DHoward575@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 08:05:32 EDT

My Joseph Elder was the son of William Elder and Mary Akers. Joseph was born
July 26, 1757 in Maine. He married Hannah Connant January 1, 1781, and they
had at least twin sons named Samuel Tynge and John.  Jospeh married Ann
Morrill on May 1, 1788. I do not know what happened to Hannah. Did she die
while giving birth or did she divorce Joseph? I suspect death.  

I need death information for Joseph and Hannah, birth and death information
for Ann, and any other children by Hannah or Ann.

Thanks

David

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Re: No Subject

From: JJSlaton@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 14:50:52 EDT

Hello Thomas,
My Elders were in Decatur Co IN with some branches in Shelby, Marion and Pike
co. I will look in my files for your names and get back to you.
Joyce J. Slaton in Butler Co OH

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: George W. Elder of Clarion Co.

From: JJSlaton@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 15:06:45 EDT

Hi,
I will look for your George Elder b 1836 KY.  My Elders went from Lincoln Co
Ky to IN and then some went west.   Don't know where Clarion Co is. Will get
back to you later.
Joyce J. Slaton in Butler Co OH

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: George W. Elder of Clarion Co.

From: Harry Issac Sharp <patroon@IBM.NET>
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 15:59:51 -0400

there is a Clarion Co. in Penna.  Harry

JJSlaton@aol.com wrote:

> Hi,
> I will look for your George Elder b 1836 KY.  My Elders went from Lincoln Co
> Ky to IN and then some went west.   Don't know where Clarion Co is. Will get
> back to you later.
> Joyce J. Slaton in Butler Co OH

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Re: No Subject

From: JJSlaton@aol.com
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 08:33:50 EDT

Hello Thomas,
I did not find your Elders in my files. I do know that some Elders that were
in Ohio came from PA where there are a lot of Elders descended from Robert &
Eleanor Elder of Paxtang PA.  Sorry  couldn't help you.
Good luck,
Joyce J. Slaton

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re: No Subject

From: Harry Issac Sharp <patroon@IBM.NET>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 08:54:53 -0400

We have Elders in Penna.  Contact me and I will outline this family.  Harry

JJSlaton@aol.com wrote:

> Hello Thomas,
> I did not find your Elders in my files. I do know that some Elders that were
> in Ohio came from PA where there are a lot of Elders descended from Robert &
> Eleanor Elder of Paxtang PA.  Sorry  couldn't help you.
> Good luck,
> Joyce J. Slaton

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Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDERS IN PENNSYLVANIA

From: STAGECOACHSTOP <STAGECOACHSTOP@prodigy.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:51:29 -0400

We have Elders in Pennsylvania.  If Ican be of help contact me @ e-mail
address.  Mine is a Joseph Thomas Elder, son of James H. and Margaret
Ann (Fryer) Elder, born in 1846 in Elizabeth PA
-- 
  Dorothy Walker Henry                                
  Pittsburgh PA to Elk Creek PA  USA                
  "The StagecoachStop" <StagecoachStop@prodigy.net>

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: ELDERS IN PENNSYLVANIA

From: Harry Issac Sharp <patroon@IBM.NET>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:20:13 -0400

Have we talked before?  I go back to Thomas Elder of Ireland on to John and
on to Martha b 1779.  She married a Munnell in now Lawrence Co., Pa.  If we
have a tie, please contact me.  Harry

STAGECOACHSTOP wrote:

> We have Elders in Pennsylvania.  If Ican be of help contact me @ e-mail
> address.  Mine is a Joseph Thomas Elder, son of James H. and Margaret
> Ann (Fryer) Elder, born in 1846 in Elizabeth PA
> --
>   Dorothy Walker Henry
>   Pittsburgh PA to Elk Creek PA  USA
>   "The StagecoachStop" <StagecoachStop@prodigy.net>

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Change of Address/Life

From: "Sea Change Farms" <seachgfm@rollanet.org>
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:41:54 -0500

      Hello Elder-News Sharing List  Readers! н It's been such a long time since I've been in  contact with any of you or posted anything to the Elder-News group...or  responded to any e-mail sent my way.н Mary and I have been working our buns  off...getting relocated from Colorado to Missouri (which was not without its  share of angst, aggravation, and complexity), getting up to our necks (if not  over our heads) in our hydroponic tomato growing and distribution operation,  trying to get our household goods and personal effects unpacked, and doing a  million other things, including getting a new Internet Service  Provider. ннн I've been "lurking"  on the internet, catching the e-mail at very odd intervals because of the need  to do a long-distance tap into my mho.net ISP, but I've now established my new  e-mail address and account at RollaNet and will begin tending to some of the  e-mail queries I've received, etc.н My new snail mail address  is: ннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннн  James C. Elder ннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннн  Sea Change Farms ннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннн  RR#4, Box 886 ннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннн  Salem, MO 65560-9251 ннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннннн  Telephone:н 573-729-9251 ннн This is a 40-acre farm  located approximately 5 miles northwest of Salem, MO, on the west side of Dent  County Road 326 (which connects directly to Missouri Route 68 in two places and  via Dent County Road 325, and to Missouri Route 19 via Dent County Road  328.н There are 13 acres of woods, 25 acres of pasture, about an acre for  the house/yards, and about another acre devoted to the  greenhouses/business.н There's a 3-br/1-ba home, detached garage-1-br/1ba  apartment-office/den, farrowing house and associated piggery, calf  shed/equipment shed, chicken house, and two ponds; the pastures are fenced and  cross-fenced.н The two greenhouse units provide 9352 square feet of space  to the 2300 plants in our Soilless/Controlled Environment Agriculture hydroponic  tomato business.н Since harvesting this year's crop began in April, the  greenhouses have produced more than 40,000 pounds of beautiful tomatoes, which  we wholesale to a major grocery chain in St. Louis and retail to customers  visiting the farm.н I make deliveries to a distribution warehouse in St.  Louis twice weekly, logging 240 miles each round trip.н It has been  unbelievably busy and hectic so far, but I expect things to get a little easier  and more orderly once we have completed our clean-up of the greenhouses and the  farm.н Mary, my son James Jr., and I are getting everything cleaned up,  repaired, and working properly, but it keeps us all very busy and very  tired. ннн I expect that it will be a  while before I will have the time to concentrate very much on genealogy or to  play an active role in the Elder-News Sharing List, but you can be sure that  I'll stay tuned in as much as possible.н My old "mho.net" address  is no longer valid. ннн Good luck to you all in  tracing your ELDER and allied family lines. Jim  Elder...The Tomato Man!

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Just checking

From: Pat Elder <elderado@bellsouth.net>
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:35:47 -0500

Are you still there?

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Change of Address/Life

From: Terencepau@aol.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:04:07 EDT

You were in Colorado?   Do you know the line of Homer Elder, father of George?

Terence Kelley

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Just checking

From: Whiteturky@aol.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:34:05 EDT

Hi, Yes we are still here.  Have sent the master to the book to the printer
about mid-August but he won't have it finished until about 1st October or so.
Am anxious to get it but this is the hard part, waiting.  Hope things are fine
with you.  We do plan to be gone a part of September but will be getting
caught up when we return home.  Take care and happy hunting.  Lucille

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Just checking

From: JJSlaton@aol.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 21:30:52 EDT

Hi Lucille, 
Don't know if your post was meant for me but glad to hear you're still around.
You and corresponded several years ago when I lived in California.  I am now
in Ohio. Haven't been doing much research.  Do I understand that you folks
have a book in the  works?  On the Elders?  Tell me more please.

Joyce J. Slaton in Butler Co OH

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Just checking

From: Whiteturky@aol.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:01:33 EDT

Yes, Joyce I have corresponded with you before and yes we have a book being
printed that includes our Elders.  The main ancestors are Blanchards and
Morleys.  Couldn't wait forever to continue the lines so cut the Elders off
with Joseph who married in Washington Co, Virginia.  Still looking though.
And Yes, I could have sworn that I sent my message to Elderado but must have
hit the wrong button.  That's alright though for I see your messages come
through on the Elder news all the time.  Still have a good day and happy
hunting.  Lucille

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From: "Thomas Wilson" <twilson@pathwaynet.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 98 12:41:28 PDT

I recently received a copy of the Last Will and Testament of John Elder of
Washington Township, Kosciusko County, Indiana, dated March 24, 1847.  John
Elder lists his wife as Mary Elder, and his children as: Delilah; Louis K.;
Sarah (Ritchy); William K; Elizabeth; John K; David K; and Christina. I am
trying to establish a line from my gggrandfather William Elder (married to
Sarah Hoppis, daughter of Christian and Lydia Glick Hoppis).  Does anyone
have a link to this John Elder that might help me to determine if he was
the father of my gggrandfather William.  
Thomas Lester Wilson
twilson@pathwaynet.com

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Just checking

From: JJSlaton@aol.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 07:31:06 EDT

Good to hear from you Lucille.
Did you find out who the parents of your Joseph Elder of Washington VA were?
Any connection to my Mathew Elder?  
Take care,
Joyce

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Re: No Subject

From: JJSlaton@aol.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 07:34:44 EDT

Hi Thomas,
I have Elders in Decatur, Pike and Shelby Co IN from about 1818.  Your names
do not ring a bell but I will look through my miscellaeous information and see
if I have anything that will help you.  I know there was a Dr. John Elder in
IN but don't remember the county. 
Will get back to you.
Joyce J. Slaton in Butler Co OH

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Re:

From: Shirley Hunsaker <hunsaker@waisman.wisc.edu>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:43:47 -0500

>I recently received a copy of the Last Will and Testament of John Elder of
>Washington Township, Kosciusko County, Indiana, dated March 24, 1847.  John
>Elder lists his wife as Mary Elder, and his children as: Delilah; Louis K.;
>Sarah (Ritchy); William K; Elizabeth; John K; David K; and Christina. I am
>trying to establish a line from my gggrandfather William Elder (married to
>Sarah Hoppis, daughter of Christian and Lydia Glick Hoppis).  Does anyone
>have a link to this John Elder that might help me to determine if he was
>the father of my gggrandfather William.

This sounds like part of my family.
	John Elder--->John Keith Elder--->Maurice Elder--->my mother
				                    (Luella Elder Hunsaker)

The details are at home but what kind of information were you looking for?
Would be happy to share what I have, although it's not extensive at this
point.

Shirley Hunsaker
hunsaker@waisman.wisc.edu (work)
hunsaker@itis.com (home)

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Just checking

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 20:22:33 -0400

Elder, Joseph married and went into Tenn. I think part of that is covered in
Virginia Nelson's book.  I have the two deeds or grants..I do not know where
at the moment.  He married in Washington Co VA and I think that marriage can
be found in Beverley Fleet's book, one of her first on the Washington Co VA
marriages.
Ann
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From: JJSlaton@aol.com <JJSlaton@aol.com>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Friday, August 28, 1998 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Just checking


>Good to hear from you Lucille.
>Did you find out who the parents of your Joseph Elder of Washington VA
were?
>Any connection to my Mathew Elder?
>Take care,
>Joyce
>

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re:

From: "Thomas Wilson" <twilson@pathwaynet.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 98 17:33:34 PDT

Hi Shirley,

I am looking for anything that you might have as to whether my William  is
or is not the son of John and Mary Elder.  Thanks in advance.

Thomas Lester Wilson
twilson@pathwaynet.com

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> >I recently received a copy of the Last Will and Testament of John Elder
of
> >Washington Township, Kosciusko County, Indiana, dated March 24, 1847. 
John
> >Elder lists his wife as Mary Elder, and his children as: Delilah; Louis
K.;
> >Sarah (Ritchy); William K; Elizabeth; John K; David K; and Christina. I
am
> >trying to establish a line from my gggrandfather William Elder (married
to
> >Sarah Hoppis, daughter of Christian and Lydia Glick Hoppis).  Does anyone
> >have a link to this John Elder that might help me to determine if he was
> >the father of my gggrandfather William.
> 
> This sounds like part of my family.
> 	John Elder--->John Keith Elder--->Maurice Elder--->my mother
> 				                    (Luella Elder Hunsaker)
> 
> The details are at home but what kind of information were you looking for?
> Would be happy to share what I have, although it's not extensive at this
> point.
> 
> Shirley Hunsaker
> hunsaker@waisman.wisc.edu (work)
> hunsaker@itis.com (home)
> 

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Just checking

From: Whiteturky@aol.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 21:57:50 EDT

Hi Joyce, No never really found any proof but will always be looking even
though we have published our book.  Lucille.

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Just checking

From: Whiteturky@aol.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:07:35 EDT

Ann if you have anything on the Joseph Elder who married Elizabeth Stoark
(Stark) in Washington Co, VA and did move on to Tennessee and later to Ohio
and the to Indiana, please let me know.  If you know where he came from before
Virginia and who is parents are I would love to know.  This is Lucille
Whiteturkey in Oklahoma City.  email, Whiteturky@aol.com.

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Just checking

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:21:31 -0400

Lucille,

I will look for the grants ( I feel sure they were grants I think I even
transcribed them). Yes they were married in Washington Co., VA.  I may find
more on them, I was after every Elder who came near Tenn.  actually an awful
lot of them did.

Give me a day or so..good to hear from another one of us.

Ann  elderbrooks@msn.com
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From: Whiteturky@aol.com <Whiteturky@aol.com>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Friday, August 28, 1998 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Just checking


>Ann if you have anything on the Joseph Elder who married Elizabeth Stoark
>(Stark) in Washington Co, VA and did move on to Tennessee and later to Ohio
>and the to Indiana, please let me know.  If you know where he came from
before
>Virginia and who is parents are I would love to know.  This is Lucille
>Whiteturkey in Oklahoma City.  email, Whiteturky@aol.com.
>

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Just checking

From: Kayfleming@aol.com
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 11:52:38 EDT

In a message dated 8/28/98 7:37:05 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
elderbrooks@msn.com writes:

<< 
 >Ann if you have anything on the Joseph Elder who married Elizabeth Stoark
 >(Stark) in Washington Co, VA and did move on to Tennessee and later to Ohio
 >and the to Indiana, please let me know.  If you know where he came from
 before
 >Virginia and who is parents are I would love to know.  >>
If anyone has the answer to the above questions, I would like to know also.
      Kayfleming @aol.com

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Subject: Re: Re: [Elder-News]: Just checking

From: FernDoyle@aol.com
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 12:29:42 EDT

I have been looking for information on Joseph Elder on this list and in many
other places for some time.  I never heard of either of the books you mention.
Virginia Nelson and Beverly Fleet.  Could you please tell me the names of
these books and if possible where they might be found.  I would really like to
see them.
	Thanks,
	Fern

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Maine Elders

From: DHoward575@aol.com
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 14:23:02 EDT

I have recently received some information on a Joshua Elder who was born in
1763 at Cape Elizabeth, Maine. He died  January 22, 1846 in Dexter, Maine.
Joshua was married to a Joanna Roberts on December 16, 1784. Joshua was a
Revolutionary War Soldier. Joshua and Joanna's children were: 

	1. William born 28 June 1785   d 9 July 1823 Married Sarah Bates

	2. Charles born 19 Sept 1788

	3. Richard born 21 Sept 1793 died 21 Mar 1849 married ?Roxanna

	4. Joshua  born 10 Apr 1798  died 5 Jul 1879 married Phebe B. Day

	5. Joanna  born 23 Apr 1809  died Mar 1892  married Levi Leathers


I have information on the above children's offspring if anyone is interested.
I need information on Joshua's parents. My Elder ancestry is from Maine.

I am also looking for information regarding the children of Joseph Elder born
26 Jul 1757 in Maine. He was the son of William Elder born abt 1726 in Antrim
County, N.Ireland.  Joseph married Hannah Connant (Conant), and they had at
least twin sons named Samuel and John. I suspect that Hannah died either
during the birth or shortly after because Jospeh married an Ann Morrill in
1788 and Hannah's twins were born in 1784. 

Thanks,
David

P.S.    There is a Scottish Celebration taking place on the first weekend in
October in Murfreesboro, Tennessee (about 20 minutes south of Nashville).
Clan MacKintosh will not be represented, but Clan Chattan will be in
attendance.  If you are interested then please see this website  
<A HREF="http://www.mtsu.edu/~proffice/hotsc.html">Heart of Tennessee Scottish
Celebration</A> .

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Just checking

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:00:09 -0400

Re: Joseph ELDER - elderbrooks answered, what is written below. I have not
had time to find Joseph today, the dryer died, the washer was sick, I traded
in my not so old Saturn for a new Saturn.  We took our drying to my son's
and his wife (some switch); played with the new, beautiful puppy, came
rushing in to feed our not so young puppy and she could smell the new puppy
and was displeased with me.  All in all it has not be a day that lended
itself to research, it is also horribly hot. Joseph Elder and wife were in
Tenn., I have copies of two land grants (I think they are grants if not
deeds).  Mrs. Virginia Knight Nelson wrote a book about 1986, "First
Families of East Tennessee" this book is about the Samuel Elder family who
came to Tennessee prior to TN. becoming a state and all his children.
Virginia covers most of the Elder's found in Tenn., which was confusing a
first.  Many did come to Tenn. passing through, some remaining.  I will
extract what she has in her book about Joseph Elder if I cannot locate those
deeds in the next couple of days.

Page 28 -

"6 August 1785  Joseph ELDER - Elizabeth Stoarch (Stark?)  by Thomas
Woolsey.
"Washington County Abstracts Vol. 34 Washington County Register 1782-1820"
by Abstracted by Beverley Fleet 1985. Published by Southern Historical
Press, Inc. c/o The Rev Silas Emmett Lucas, Jr., P. O. Box 738, Easley, SC
29641-0783 ( this book is available again through Hearthstone in VA. and
probably Rev Lucas). Ms. Fleet gives the historical explanation of what
happened to the marriage records, as well as trying to "wade through the way
these were written"  Washington Co VA was created in 1777 from Fincastle Co,
from Botetourt Co. 1770 from Augusta Co., VA. 1745. aebp

"5 Decr 1797 - James Elder - Sarah Rusk by Edward Crawford" (James was the
son of Matthew Elder and Mary probably Mary Kincannon; Matthew came through
part of PA, through Chester (actually Charles Co), York Co. into Botetourt
Co. and he died 1783 in Washington Co VA.)aebp

"__ ___ ____ - James JAMISON - Sarah ELDER by Nicholoas Reagan." Sarah was
also a daughter of Matthew Elder.  I found the date of their marriage, 24
May, 1785.  I hope this will help a little, and I will look for the grants,
let me know if you have any other clue to your Joseph Elder I will see if I
have "gathered more".  Joseph ELDER was not a brother of Matthew ELDER.  Ann
elderbrooks@msn.com





-----Original Message-----
From: Kayfleming@aol.com <Kayfleming@aol.com>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Saturday, August 29, 1998 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Just checking


>In a message dated 8/28/98 7:37:05 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
>elderbrooks@msn.com writes:
>
><<
> >Ann if you have anything on the Joseph Elder who married Elizabeth Stoark
> >(Stark) in Washington Co, VA and did move on to Tennessee and later to
Ohio
> >and the to Indiana, please let me know.  If you know where he came from
> before
> >Virginia and who is parents are I would love to know.  >>
>If anyone has the answer to the above questions, I would like to know also.
>      Kayfleming @aol.com
>

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Just checking

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 20:48:38 -0400

Joseph ELDER, I did post his marriage and explain the book by Beverley
Fleet.  I have not had time to get the other material out, I will.  I still
work..time is a luxury.  I promise to get back to you, I had an appointment
tonight, a class Thursday and another appointment Friday evening.  None of
which I am looking forward to.  I promise I will get back to you.

Don't any of you go buy the book unless you are looking for others in VA.  I
will be glad to share that with you.

Ann

-----Original Message-----
From: Kayfleming@aol.com <Kayfleming@aol.com>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Saturday, August 29, 1998 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Just checking


>In a message dated 8/28/98 7:37:05 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
>elderbrooks@msn.com writes:
>
><<
> >Ann if you have anything on the Joseph Elder who married Elizabeth Stoark
> >(Stark) in Washington Co, VA and did move on to Tennessee and later to
Ohio
> >and the to Indiana, please let me know.  If you know where he came from
> before
> >Virginia and who is parents are I would love to know.  >>
>If anyone has the answer to the above questions, I would like to know also.
>      Kayfleming @aol.com
>

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