Elder April 1998 Mail List


Subject: [Elder-News]: New SHRADER info/Anybody interested?
Subject: [Elder-News]: No E-Mail from Elder-News
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: ELder
Subject: [Elder-News]: Thomas Bryan and stuff
Subject: [Elder-News]: Sorry
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: ELder
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: reply set-up
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: reply set-up
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: No E-Mail from Elder-News
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: reply set-up
Subject: [Elder-News]: F. S. Elder of Paris, Kentucky
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: reply set-up
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder - Kentucky
Subject: [Elder-News]: I like it!
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Robert Elder and Janet Hallyburton
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Robert Elder and Janet Hallyburton
Subject: Re: Re: [Elder-News]: reply set-up
Subject: Re: Re: [Elder-News]: Robert Elder and Janet Hallyburton
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: No E-Mail from Elder-News
Subject: [Elder-News]: Found by accident
Subject: [Elder-News]: Obit!
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder Family
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder Family



Subject: [Elder-News]: New SHRADER info/Anybody interested?

From: Rob & Heather Williams <will7370@tao.sou.edu>
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:35:52 -0700

I found some new info on the ancestors of Andrew Edward
SHRADER, husband of Rebecca Narcissus ELDER.  It takes the
line back another generation to Andrew's grandfather
Christopher SHRADER and wife Mary WEBB.  The WEBB line goes
back a little bit further.  If anybody is interested, I can
provide a small GEDCOM.

Take care,

Robert 
-- 
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         \\  ~ ~  //
          (  @ @  )
------- oOOo-(_)-oOOo--------------- 
Robert L. Williams KC7BUM
  ---Veteran of operation Just Cause
     Republic of Panama 1989
Heather Williams
Bryce LeGrand Williams
Kjersten Chase Noelle Williams
Ashland, Oregon
will7370@tao.sou.edu
--------------------Oooo.-----------
      .oooO         (   )
      (   )          ) /
       \ (          (_/
        \_)

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Subject: [Elder-News]: No E-Mail from Elder-News

From: Ron Elder <hawkeld@clear.net.nz>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 21:16:26 +1200

I haven't had any e-mail from Elder-News for some time.

Has there been a breakdown or have I been struck off ?  If the latter
could I please be reinstated ?

Ron Elder
Gisborne, New Zealand

Seeking information on Elders in Fife, Scotland  1800s and earlier.

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder

From: EDIJTX <EDIJTX@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 21:21:05 EDT

I am a new user and don't understand the e-mail I received tonight.  Is there
someone to clear it for me?  Edith Mae Johnson 

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder

From: TexasJane2 <TexasJane2@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 23:28:54 EDT

was this message  for me to reply to?

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder

From: basset@juno.com (marjorie l thomas)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 21:52:20 -0700

No message came thru, please resend.  Thanks

On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:47:28 -0400 "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
writes:
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>
>
>
>

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: ELder

From: basset@juno.com (marjorie l thomas)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 21:53:40 -0700

No message came thru, please resend.  Thanks


On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:50:05 -0400 "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
writes:
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>
>
>
>

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Thomas Bryan and stuff

From: Rob & Heather Williams <will7370@tao.sou.edu>
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 12:49:13 -0700

Hi Ann,

How've you been lately?  The Elder list has been sort of
quiet recently.  Looks like you tried to post something
twice yesterday but there was no data in your post.

By the way, you never did send me the Thomas Bryan will like
you promised below in your letter.  My snail mail address
is:

Robert Williams
132 Wightman Street, Apt #1
Ashland, Oregon 97520

Also, I can't remember if I told you or not, but I
discovered the SHRADER line back another generation from
George Washinton SHRADER if you are interested.  Still can't
figure out this thing with his wife (wives) though.  The
information you sent to me says he was married to Polly
PATTERSON.  A grandaughter of his says he was married to
Mary FOX.  The new SHRADER stuff I uncovered says he was
married to Mary FERGUSON, and gives quite an extensive
background for her.  So maybe he was married to all three. 
I don't know.  I just wish I knew which children belonged to
which mother.

Take care,

Robert

elderbrooks wrote:
> 
> Hi to all, I have one for Robert L. Williams about Rachel N. (Bryan) Keener
> who married (2) Charles Elder whose (1) was Elizabeth Underwood.  I have the
> will of Thomas Bryan, in his will he mentions his dau. Rachel ELDER, her two
> dau's. and one son. If you would like a copy of the will sent me your snail
> mail.  This will names all of his children and wives.  The Bryans were
> witnesses to the will of Samuel Elder who died in Sevier Co TN, they
> withdrew as executors and I do not know why.  But I wonder if Samuel's wife
> was Hannah BRYAN ELDER??? O.K. it follows the pattern of the older wills.
> Thomas Bryan's will 1867 signed by Thomas Bryan, Signed in the presence of
> Perry Cate, Thomas Drennin (not a Cate or Bryan) and Elisha P. (Porter)
> CATE.  You will please note on this will: "A true copy from the original
> signed by the Sevier County Clerk of the Court."
> (Will Bk. 1, p. 109, Sevier Co., TN.) If you would like a copy I have two or
> three I made today.
> 
> If you want the address of the lady in AL whose ancestor is Rachel N.
> (Bryan) Keener ELDER please contact me at my address. Ann
> ellderbrooks@msn.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob & Heather Williams <will7370@tao.sou.edu>
> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
> Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 12:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: ELDER Rebecca N; 1866-1959
> 
> >Hey!  Thanks for writing.  Yes, we are connected.  No hurry.  I'll file
> your
> >name and put a little bug in your ear from time to time.  I have some old
> >Shrader photos scanned into my computer.  If you know how to bring them up
> on
> >the screen, I can email them to you.
> >
> >Robert
> >
> >elderbrooks wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Robert, this will be short, it is late, I am tired and have to go to
> work
> >> in the morning.  Rebecca Narcissus Elder was the second wife of  my
> >> g-g-g-grandfather, Charles Elder. She was the widow of George Keener, the
> >> dau. of Thomas Bryan and wife Nancy Cate, they had two children Charles
> >> Thomas and Rebecca Narcissus Elder.  Charles Thomas was named for his
> father
> >> and grandfahter. Rebecca seems to have the name of Charles Elder's
> mother,
> >> Rebecca (Cates) Elder wife of William Elder.  Both went to Madison Co AL,
> >> both were married in Madison Co Al.  I think I have the Shrader children
> but
> >> that is not easy to find at this time, perhaps I can grab it this
> weekend.
> >> Both the great granddaughter and great grandson of Charles and Rebecca
> are
> >> living, one in Huntsville Al the other in CA. I do have photos of Charles
> >> Thomas and one of Rebecca and "Andy" Shrader, I think I have given the
> >> photo's away but have the negatives put up.  I had photo. negs. made from
> >> the old pictures a few years ago. Will try to get to this, I am on
> another
> >> "hunt" at the moment.  Rachel has another descendant in Huntsville, last
> >> name is Norwood, Frances Norwood.  I helped her when she had a query in
> the
> >> ETHS or Smoky Mountian News.  The last address I have on her was Dec.
> 1988,
> >> how long has this gone on???? If you will contact me I will send you her
> >> address.
> >>
> >> Ann   elderbrooks@msn.com
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rob & Heather Williams <will7370@tao.sou.edu>
> >> To: Elder Email Group <elder-news@intrepid.net>
> >> Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 11:58 PM
> >> Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER Rebecca N; 1866-1959
> >>
> >> >Hi Elder Folk!
> >> >I am looking for information regarding Rebecca N. ELDER.
> >> >She was born on 10 Jan 1866, possibly in Tennessee.  She
> >> >married Andy E. SHRADER.  He was born 11 Jan 1863 in TN.
> >> >They had a son, Walter SHRADER, born 5 April 1889 in
> >> >Chattanooga, TN.  Rebecca later died on 15 Dec 1959 in
> >> >Ft.Worth, Texas and was later buried in Milford, Ellis
> >> >County, TX.
> >> >If anybody fixes me up with her ancestors I'll take you out
> >> >for Steak!  How's that sound?
> >> >
> >> >Robert
> >> >-------------------------------
> >> >Robert L. Williams KC7BUM
> >> >  ---Veteran of operation Just Cause
> >> >       Republic of Panama 1989
> >> >Heather Williams
> >> >Bryce LeGrand Williams
> >> >Kjersten Chase Noelle Williams
> >> >Ashland, Oregon
> >> >will7370@tao.sou.edu
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >-------------------------------
> >Robert L. Williams KC7BUM
> >  ---Veteran of operation Just Cause
> >       Republic of Panama 1989
> >Heather Williams
> >Bryce LeGrand Williams
> >Kjersten Chase Noelle Williams
> >Ashland, Oregon
> >will7370@tao.sou.edu
> >
> >
> >

-- 
           \\\|///
         \\  ~ ~  //
          (  @ @  )
------- oOOo-(_)-oOOo--------------- 
Robert L. Williams KC7BUM
  ---Veteran of operation Just Cause
     Republic of Panama 1989
Heather Williams
Bryce LeGrand Williams
Kjersten Chase Noelle Williams
Ashland, Oregon
will7370@tao.sou.edu
--------------------Oooo.-----------
      .oooO         (   )
      (   )          ) /
       \ (          (_/
        \_)

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Sorry

From: Rob & Heather Williams <will7370@tao.sou.edu>
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 13:07:38 -0700

Sorry, hit the wrong button.  Didn't mean to send this out
to the whole list.  Please forgive.

Robert

Rob & Heather Williams wrote:
> 
> Hi Ann,
> 
> How've you been lately?  The Elder list has been sort of
> quiet recently.  Looks like you tried to post something
> twice yesterday but there was no data in your post.
> 
> By the way, you never did send me the Thomas Bryan will like
> you promised below in your letter.  My snail mail address
> is:
> 
> Robert Williams
> 132 Wightman Street, Apt #1
> Ashland, Oregon 97520
> 
> Also, I can't remember if I told you or not, but I
> discovered the SHRADER line back another generation from
> George Washinton SHRADER if you are interested.  Still can't
> figure out this thing with his wife (wives) though.  The
> information you sent to me says he was married to Polly
> PATTERSON.  A grandaughter of his says he was married to
> Mary FOX.  The new SHRADER stuff I uncovered says he was
> married to Mary FERGUSON, and gives quite an extensive
> background for her.  So maybe he was married to all three.
> I don't know.  I just wish I knew which children belonged to
> which mother.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Robert
> 
> elderbrooks wrote:
> >
> > Hi to all, I have one for Robert L. Williams about Rachel N. (Bryan) Keener
> > who married (2) Charles Elder whose (1) was Elizabeth Underwood.  I have the
> > will of Thomas Bryan, in his will he mentions his dau. Rachel ELDER, her two
> > dau's. and one son. If you would like a copy of the will sent me your snail
> > mail.  This will names all of his children and wives.  The Bryans were
> > witnesses to the will of Samuel Elder who died in Sevier Co TN, they
> > withdrew as executors and I do not know why.  But I wonder if Samuel's wife
> > was Hannah BRYAN ELDER??? O.K. it follows the pattern of the older wills.
> > Thomas Bryan's will 1867 signed by Thomas Bryan, Signed in the presence of
> > Perry Cate, Thomas Drennin (not a Cate or Bryan) and Elisha P. (Porter)
> > CATE.  You will please note on this will: "A true copy from the original
> > signed by the Sevier County Clerk of the Court."
> > (Will Bk. 1, p. 109, Sevier Co., TN.) If you would like a copy I have two or
> > three I made today.
> >
> > If you want the address of the lady in AL whose ancestor is Rachel N.
> > (Bryan) Keener ELDER please contact me at my address. Ann
> > ellderbrooks@msn.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob & Heather Williams <will7370@tao.sou.edu>
> > To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
> > Date: Thursday, February 12, 1998 12:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: ELDER Rebecca N; 1866-1959
> >
> > >Hey!  Thanks for writing.  Yes, we are connected.  No hurry.  I'll file
> > your
> > >name and put a little bug in your ear from time to time.  I have some old
> > >Shrader photos scanned into my computer.  If you know how to bring them up
> > on
> > >the screen, I can email them to you.
> > >
> > >Robert
> > >
> > >elderbrooks wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Robert, this will be short, it is late, I am tired and have to go to
> > work
> > >> in the morning.  Rebecca Narcissus Elder was the second wife of  my
> > >> g-g-g-grandfather, Charles Elder. She was the widow of George Keener, the
> > >> dau. of Thomas Bryan and wife Nancy Cate, they had two children Charles
> > >> Thomas and Rebecca Narcissus Elder.  Charles Thomas was named for his
> > father
> > >> and grandfahter. Rebecca seems to have the name of Charles Elder's
> > mother,
> > >> Rebecca (Cates) Elder wife of William Elder.  Both went to Madison Co AL,
> > >> both were married in Madison Co Al.  I think I have the Shrader children
> > but
> > >> that is not easy to find at this time, perhaps I can grab it this
> > weekend.
> > >> Both the great granddaughter and great grandson of Charles and Rebecca
> > are
> > >> living, one in Huntsville Al the other in CA. I do have photos of Charles
> > >> Thomas and one of Rebecca and "Andy" Shrader, I think I have given the
> > >> photo's away but have the negatives put up.  I had photo. negs. made from
> > >> the old pictures a few years ago. Will try to get to this, I am on
> > another
> > >> "hunt" at the moment.  Rachel has another descendant in Huntsville, last
> > >> name is Norwood, Frances Norwood.  I helped her when she had a query in
> > the
> > >> ETHS or Smoky Mountian News.  The last address I have on her was Dec.
> > 1988,
> > >> how long has this gone on???? If you will contact me I will send you her
> > >> address.
> > >>
> > >> Ann   elderbrooks@msn.com
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Rob & Heather Williams <will7370@tao.sou.edu>
> > >> To: Elder Email Group <elder-news@intrepid.net>
> > >> Date: Tuesday, February 10, 1998 11:58 PM
> > >> Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER Rebecca N; 1866-1959
> > >>
> > >> >Hi Elder Folk!
> > >> >I am looking for information regarding Rebecca N. ELDER.
> > >> >She was born on 10 Jan 1866, possibly in Tennessee.  She
> > >> >married Andy E. SHRADER.  He was born 11 Jan 1863 in TN.
> > >> >They had a son, Walter SHRADER, born 5 April 1889 in
> > >> >Chattanooga, TN.  Rebecca later died on 15 Dec 1959 in
> > >> >Ft.Worth, Texas and was later buried in Milford, Ellis
> > >> >County, TX.
> > >> >If anybody fixes me up with her ancestors I'll take you out
> > >> >for Steak!  How's that sound?
> > >> >
> > >> >Robert
> > >> >-------------------------------
> > >> >Robert L. Williams KC7BUM
> > >> >  ---Veteran of operation Just Cause
> > >> >       Republic of Panama 1989
> > >> >Heather Williams
> > >> >Bryce LeGrand Williams
> > >> >Kjersten Chase Noelle Williams
> > >> >Ashland, Oregon
> > >> >will7370@tao.sou.edu
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >-------------------------------
> > >Robert L. Williams KC7BUM
> > >  ---Veteran of operation Just Cause
> > >       Republic of Panama 1989
> > >Heather Williams
> > >Bryce LeGrand Williams
> > >Kjersten Chase Noelle Williams
> > >Ashland, Oregon
> > >will7370@tao.sou.edu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> 
> --
>            \\\|///
>          \\  ~ ~  //
>           (  @ @  )
> ------- oOOo-(_)-oOOo---------------
> Robert L. Williams KC7BUM
>   ---Veteran of operation Just Cause
>      Republic of Panama 1989
> Heather Williams
> Bryce LeGrand Williams
> Kjersten Chase Noelle Williams
> Ashland, Oregon
> will7370@tao.sou.edu
> --------------------Oooo.-----------
>       .oooO         (   )
>       (   )          ) /
>        \ (          (_/
>         \_)

-- 
           \\\|///
         \\  ~ ~  //
          (  @ @  )
------- oOOo-(_)-oOOo--------------- 
Robert L. Williams KC7BUM
  ---Veteran of operation Just Cause
     Republic of Panama 1989
Heather Williams
Bryce LeGrand Williams
Kjersten Chase Noelle Williams
Ashland, Oregon
will7370@tao.sou.edu
--------------------Oooo.-----------
      .oooO         (   )
      (   )          ) /
       \ (          (_/
        \_)

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 21:54:02 -0400

Hi,  I have no idea what I did wrong, but this does not usually happen, do
not blame yourself, I messed up, from and old user....Ann
-----Original Message-----
From: EDIJTX <EDIJTX@aol.com>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Friday, April 17, 1998 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder


>I am a new user and don't understand the e-mail I received tonight.  Is
there
>someone to clear it for me?  Edith Mae Johnson
>

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: ELder

From: LFHalter <LFHalter@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 22:30:53 EDT

I must have a problem. I get don't get any information when I get a message
from this list.

Francine

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: reply set-up

From: Donna Logan <fanfare@intrepid.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 01:14:28 -0500

I am willing to listen to everyone's thoughts on this subject.  We had it
set up this way to begin with and many complained that it was more trouble
to type in the list address and normally they wanted to share what they had
to say with all of the members.  The list is an INVITATION to share with
others.

But it seems to me that if you hit the "reply to all" option - and simply
delete the list address - that's not so difficult to remember to do when
you only want to send it to an individual. Either way you have to delete
one if you hit reply to all.

Personally I am in favor of maintaining it the way it is. I get over 300
emails every day - and any I don't choose to read - get trashed.  It's as
simple as that. Others might wait in line in my emailer program til I can
get to them.... but the bottom line is a couple extra emails aren't that
big a deal.

I guess I feel that if your reply is truly private - then you'll need to be
extra careful to be sure it's sent privately.

But, as I said, I am willing to listen ........

- donna <list mom>


> Would it be possible to have the reply set-up for this list be to go
> to sender so private messages would more likely remain private?  At
> least on Netscape there are two options, reply and reply all, giving
> sender clear and quick choice.  If one hits reply all, the whole list
> gets the message while if one wants to only reply directly, it is easy
> to do so.
>
> I believe the current set-up is often done so there is more traffic
> (something scarce recently on this list) and so those items of general
> interest not just go to one person.  However, I believe people would
> be willing to hit the reply all choice when there's genealogical
> content rather than a personal messages.
>
> While it currently is possible to reply privately, the additional
> steps make it more time-consuming and lead to people accidentally
> sending messages to the list they would have preferred not go there.
> This has happened to me in the past and I so appreciate the lists that
> give sender the clear option.

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: reply set-up

From: Steve/Betty Snow <snow@caribnet.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 08:19:46 -0500

Would it be possible to have the reply set-up for this list be to go 
to sender so private messages would more likely remain private?  At 
least on Netscape there are two options, reply and reply all, giving 
sender clear and quick choice.  If one hits reply all, the whole list 
gets the message while if one wants to only reply directly, it is easy 
to do so.  

I believe the current set-up is often done so there is more traffic 
(something scarce recently on this list) and so those items of general 
interest not just go to one person.  However, I believe people would 
be willing to hit the reply all choice when there's genealogical 
content rather than a personal messages.

While it currently is possible to reply privately, the additional 
steps make it more time-consuming and lead to people accidentally 
sending messages to the list they would have preferred not go there.  
This has happened to me in the past and I so appreciate the lists that 
give sender the clear option.

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: No E-Mail from Elder-News

From: RElder1922 <RElder1922@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 23:38:09 EDT

Hi Ron!
Any of your family in Scotland related to Robert Elder and Janet (nee
Hallyburton) Elder?
How about Peter Elder and Euphemia (nee Milne) Elder?
Peter and Euphemia are from Aberdeen.
Robert and Janet are fron Angus.
Bob Elder

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: reply set-up

From: Steve/Betty Snow <snow@caribnet.net>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 01:49:09 -0500

Donna, the problem is that  on this list the way it is now my reply 
goes ONLY to the list whether I hit reply to all or reply to one.  The 
list is all that receives the message.  The only way I can make it 
individual is to delete the address that pops up and then check the 
message, find the address, and paste the sender's address in.  I get 
messages individually rather than in digest just so I don't have to do 
that. 

When in a hurry, and most of us usually are, this seems a lot of extra 
work.  If I have to go to that trouble, in the future I am likely to 
ONLY send to that person rather to the list even if the discussion 
later is one of more general interest.

Especially since I, and probably others, are also on lists where a 
message goes either to the list plus individual when one hits ALL 
(really means all) and to the individual only when one hits a simple 
reply (really means one), the current set-up increases the likelihood 
of private messages going public.

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Subject: [Elder-News]: F. S. Elder of Paris, Kentucky

From: "Dwight C. Stewart" <dcstewart@mindspring.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 09:25:51 -0400

Dear Elder Researchers:
   Does anyone one have any information about a Eugene Vincent Elder who
was born in Paris, Kentucky 1 Aug 1898.  His father was F. S. Elder. 
I'm told that F. S. Elder had a brother who settled in Richmond,
Kentucky.  I am trying to research this for a friend, and this is all
the information I have.  Does anyone know to which Elder line these
persons are probably related?  My friend is Eugene Vincent Elder, Jr.
   I have been unsubscribed for awhile because other commitments have
robbed me of time to work on genealogy :(  But now I'm back.  The above
Elders are not in my line, but I'd appreciate very much receiving info
that would help me plug them into the line where they belong.  Thanks.
   Dwight C. Stewart in Louisville, Kentucky

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: reply set-up

From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 20:02:30 -0400

I agree with you, Donna.  I have no problem replying to the individual
writter if that is what I want to do.  I see no need to change.
	Jim

On Sun, 19 Apr 1998 01:14:28 -0500 Donna Logan <fanfare@intrepid.net>
writes:
>I am willing to listen to everyone's thoughts on this subject.  We had 
>it
>set up this way to begin with and many complained that it was more 
>trouble
>to type in the list address and normally they wanted to share what 
>they had
>to say with all of the members.  The list is an INVITATION to share 
>with
>others.
>
>But it seems to me that if you hit the "reply to all" option - and 
>simply
>delete the list address - that's not so difficult to remember to do 
>when
>you only want to send it to an individual. Either way you have to 
>delete
>one if you hit reply to all.
>
>Personally I am in favor of maintaining it the way it is. I get over 
>300
>emails every day - and any I don't choose to read - get trashed.  It's 
>as
>simple as that. Others might wait in line in my emailer program til I 
>can
>get to them.... but the bottom line is a couple extra emails aren't 
>that
>big a deal.
>
>I guess I feel that if your reply is truly private - then you'll need 
>to be
>extra careful to be sure it's sent privately.
>
>But, as I said, I am willing to listen ........
>
>- donna <list mom>
>
>
>> Would it be possible to have the reply set-up for this list be to go
>> to sender so private messages would more likely remain private?  At
>> least on Netscape there are two options, reply and reply all, giving
>> sender clear and quick choice.  If one hits reply all, the whole 
>list
>> gets the message while if one wants to only reply directly, it is 
>easy
>> to do so.
>>
>> I believe the current set-up is often done so there is more traffic
>> (something scarce recently on this list) and so those items of 
>general
>> interest not just go to one person.  However, I believe people would
>> be willing to hit the reply all choice when there's genealogical
>> content rather than a personal messages.
>>
>> While it currently is possible to reply privately, the additional
>> steps make it more time-consuming and lead to people accidentally
>> sending messages to the list they would have preferred not go there.
>> This has happened to me in the past and I so appreciate the lists 
>that
>> give sender the clear option.
>
>
>
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Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder - Kentucky

From: "Lee M. Elder" <elder@wcc.net>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 17:16:13 -0700

Hi Dwight:

I have several Eugene Elder's in my computer. Here is a list.

1 Eugene Randall Elder
1 Eugene Everett Elder
7 Eugene Elder
1 Eugene A. Elder
3 Eugene J. Elder
1 Eugene Cmpbell Elder
1 Eugene H. Elder
1 Eugene Walter Elder
1 Eugene Vincent Elder b. 1869 d. 1940 wife - Lula Burch married 1890
   Children-
Martha Susan Elder
Joseph William Elder
Nelson Granman Elder
Robert Leon Elder
Eugenia Isabelle Elder

Eugene Vincent Elder- His father was John Thomas Elder- wife was Martha
A. Carter.  He and his family and father were in my Maryland Elder
family.

Let me know if I can be of additional help.
Lee M. Elder

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Subject: [Elder-News]: I like it!

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 20:52:57 -0400

Hi,

I think we have a really good set up, as I've said before this is the best
thing going, I know many of you are on other list this is the BEST.  Donna
is always available but she allows us to exchange information and it seems
we are working in a peaceful, thoughtful manner.  I hope it does not change.

Ann

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Robert Elder and Janet Hallyburton

From: Frank Mitchell <f.t.mitchell@BTInternet.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 98 16:43:34 +0100 ( + )

Hi Bob

I was interested in your email from Ron.  I'm based in Scotland about 12 miles from Edinburgh and my mother was Joanna Cochrane Elder, her father was William McDonald Elder and he had a brother Robert.

The other interest was in Janet Hallyburton as I'm doing research for my husband's cousin and his mother's family were Hallyburton's spelt the same way as Janet, which is quite unusual.

I would be interested in what info you have.

Best wishes
Margaret Mitchell

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Robert Elder and Janet Hallyburton

From: Frank Mitchell <f.t.mitchell@BTInternet.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 98 20:18:05 +0100 ( + )

Hi Bob

I was interested in your email from Ron.  I'm based in Scotland about 12 miles from Edinburgh and my mother was Joanna Cochrane Elder, her father was William McDonald Elder and he had a brother Robert.

The other interest was in Janet Hallyburton as I'm doing research for my husband's cousin and his mother's family were Hallyburton's spelt the same way as Janet, which is quite unusual.

I would be interested in what info you have.

Best wishes
Margaret Mitchell

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Subject: Re: Re: [Elder-News]: reply set-up

From: RElder1922 <RElder1922@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:03:51 EDT

Donna
there is no problem with the set as is.
If you want all to know, send it to all Elders.
If the answer is for an individual, send it to him that person.
Even an amature computer user like yours truly can do that. Leave Well Enough
Alone.
Bob Elder

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Subject: Re: Re: [Elder-News]: Robert Elder and Janet Hallyburton

From: RElder1922 <RElder1922@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:41:29 EDT

Hello Margaret!
I'm glad to finally hear from somebody over in Scotland. It seems all the
Elders on this Internet are from the States. My relatives are from Scotland.
Namely from Aberdeen.
Margaret, my Robert Elder and Janet Hallyburton are my Gr.Gr.. Parents. The
only info I can give you is this: They were married 15 Jul 1797 in Coupar,
Angus. They had three sons: James brn. 1802, Peter brn. 1803, and David brn.
1805.
Peter is my Gr. grandfather. He married Euphemia MIlne from St. Nicholas
Parish in 1834.  They had 11 children. Peter was a Horse Dealer from FarFar.
One of their sons was Maxwell Edwards Elder, brn in 1852. (my Grandfather). He
married Elizabeth Sumner of Formby, England in 1884. Maxwell was an Engineer
for the Cunard Line. His son. Archiebald Winning Elder, was my Father.
Margaret, you know have my family line. 
Margaret, I'm in the process of getting a copy of the marriage certificate for
Robert and Janet, from the Registra's Office; if they have it. So far I have
been very successful in obtaining records from the Registra General Office.
Will keep you e-mail address on file, and will keep in touch.
Keep Healthy and Stay Well.
Respectfully,
Bob Elder

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: No E-Mail from Elder-News

From: Ron Elder <hawkeld@clear.net.nz>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 23:59:59 +1200

Hello Bob. Nice to hear from someone else with family history interests
in Scotland.

I had seen your post but I don't think we have any connection with the
names you mention.  Janet is a family name - my gg-grandfather married
Janet (known as Jessie) Robertson in the Orkney Islands in 1830. Her
father was a Congregational minister. One of their children was named
for her - Janet Elder (b 1844 Burnet Island, Fife, Scotland)

My gg-grandfather was David Elder (b 1794 in Linlithgow).  His father
was also a David Elder (b circa 1767  m Hannah Jamieson 1788 in
Linlithgow). Hannah Jamieson was probably from a local family but I
think David Elder came to Linlithgow for work - he was a Master Cooper
according to the marriage register.  We have indications of Elder family
links to the Stirling area where my gg-grandfather died and the vicinity
of Burnt Island, Fife where he was stationed as a Fisheries Officer at
one time. At least one of his children attended Edinburgh University. My
g-grandfather, George Robertson Elder (b 1778) and most if not all of
his siblings emigrated to New Zealand in the 1860s. 
The names of David and Hannah's children were Alexander (b 1789 - d
1790), William (b 1791), David (b 1794), Mary (b1796), Christian (b
1798), Hannah (b 1800), Alexander (b 1803), Elizabeth (b 1804).
The naming order (and the repetition of Alexander for a later child)
would suggest that David Elder's father may have been an Alexander Elder
(possibly married to a Christian) but we have not established this at
all.
I'd be very interested to hear if you can make any connection with any
of these names or if anyone else on the list can assist.

Regards

Ron Elder
Gisborne, New Zealand

Researching Elder family - Stirlingshire and Fife, Scotland 1700s

RElder1922 wrote:
> 
> Hi Ron!
> Any of your family in Scotland related to Robert Elder and Janet (nee
> Hallyburton) Elder?
> How about Peter Elder and Euphemia (nee Milne) Elder?
> Peter and Euphemia are from Aberdeen.
> Robert and Janet are fron Angus.
> Bob Elder

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Found by accident

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 15:24:35 -0400

Hi, I really hesitate to bring this up considering I make so many mistakes,
and the only reason I found it I was looking for the subscription
information and this was the first Elder Family Newsletter I reached for.
Now everyone knows I am late with my dues, forgot how much and I am going to
correct someone else.  Volume 3, Number 2, April, May, June 1995 ISSN
1072-9445 starts on page one and continued on page 6.  See last column,
fourth paragraph, name "Robert ELDER Record #S12865, Virginia Line. Born in
York Co PA 1760 in 1773 his father moved to Rockbridge Co., VA and he lived
there at enlistment.  He later moved to Washington Co VA and in 1796 he
moved to Lincoln Co Tennessee."  I have this same Robert Elder information
and he moved to Lincoln Co., KY, he was the son of Matthew Elder and Mary
(Kincannon??); Mary died 1795 in Washington Co VA and Robert Elder, his wife
and family moved to KY along with his sister. They are all buried McCormick
(I think that is the spelling but I did not check).  Robert Elder also left
a will.

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Obit!

From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:38:09 -0400

The Albany (GA) Herald
Saturday, April 25, 1998
Page 4A

Emily Annette ELDER
   Orlando, Fla. --- Emily Annette ELDER, 71, of Orlando died Thursday.

The funeral will be at 10 a.m. Monday at Union Park Memorial Chapel
Funeral Home with burial in Chapel Hill Cemetery.

A native of Colquitt (GA), Mrs. ELDER was a retired cafeteria assistant
for Orange County Schools.  She moved to Central Florida in 1953.  She
was a Baptist.

Survivors include her husband, Lawrence G. ELDER of Orlando; three sons,
Don ELDER of Oak Hill, W.VA, Sam ELDER of Fallon, Nev., and Rick ELDER of
Orlando; a daughter, Patty Schnabel, Orlando; a brother, J. T. Atkinson
of Albany; two sisters, Margaret Hayes of Albany and Agnes Borras of
Hacienda Heights, Calif.; and seven grandchildren and two
great-grandchildren.

Visitation will be 9-10 a. m. Monday at the funeral home.

jpg/27Apr98

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder Family

From: "Sherry & Johnny Beatty" <sherry@usit.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:05:33 -0500

Hi Lee, Wondering what you might have on Hartwell Elder son of David Elder
b. ca 1823 born in TN  Thanks Sherry
-----Original Message-----
From: Lee M. Elder <elder@wcc.net>
To: "elder1@flash.net"@flash.net <"elder1@flash.net"@flash.net>
Cc: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Monday, April 27, 1998 10:40 AM
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder Family


>Hi Faye:
>
>I am sorry if I didn't answer your early email, but I thought I did and
>didn't find your Henry S. Elder. Here is what I have on Henry Elder.
>
>Henry Trip Elder b. 02-14-1851 Mead Co., KY. d. 05-02-1914
>Henry Trip Elder, Jr. b. 09-06-1886 d. 06-23-1935
>Henry Blanton Elder
>Henry Eldr
>Henry Nowlin Elder b. 1881 d. 1958
>Henry Lucius Elder b. ca. 1918
>Henryi J. Elder b. 1847 Miami, FL.
>Henry Green Elder b. ?  d. 02-13-1927
>Henry Elder b. 07-21-1789
>Henry Elder b. ca. 1789
>Henry Elder
>Henry Elder b. 1854
>Henry Elder
>Henry Joseph Elder b. 06-07-1843
>Henry Charles Elder b. 06-25-1859 d. 01-06-1923
>Henry Edward Elder b. 06-10-1860
>Henry Melvin Elder b. 11-08-1907 d. 12-13-1942
>Henry Francis Elder b. 01-12-1888 d. 08-22-1971
>Henry Lee Elder b. 09-05-1886
>Henry McMillan Elder b. 11-22-1923 d. 04-06-1945
>Henry Edward Elder b. 08-15-1914
>Henry William Elder b. 04-14-1931
>Henry Edward Elder, Jr. b. 06-30-1947
>Henry Elder b. 05-15-1898 d. 10-02-1985
>Henry W. Elder b. 11-  -1883 d. 09-22-1955
>Henry Elder b. 12-  -1892
>Henry David Elder b. 12-31-1850 d. 03-06-1853
>Henry Benson Elder b. 11-18-1863 d. 11-26-1923
>Henry C. Elder b. ca. 1842
>Henry L. Elder b. 1821
>Henry Elder b. 11-05-1829
>Henry F. Elder b. 11-08-1860 d. 08-12-1933
>
>I have three Charles Henry Elder's:
>Charles Henry Elder b. 01-04-1861 Mead Co., KY
>Charles Henry Elder b. 02-14-1914
>Charles Henry Elder b. 02-25-1911
>
>If you need other information on the above  I will be glad to give you
>what I have.
>
>Lee M. Elder
>

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder Family

From: "Lee M. Elder" <elder@wcc.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:37:39 -0700

Hi Faye:

I am sorry if I didn't answer your early email, but I thought I did and
didn't find your Henry S. Elder. Here is what I have on Henry Elder.

Henry Trip Elder b. 02-14-1851 Mead Co., KY. d. 05-02-1914
Henry Trip Elder, Jr. b. 09-06-1886 d. 06-23-1935
Henry Blanton Elder 
Henry Eldr
Henry Nowlin Elder b. 1881 d. 1958
Henry Lucius Elder b. ca. 1918
Henryi J. Elder b. 1847 Miami, FL.
Henry Green Elder b. ?  d. 02-13-1927
Henry Elder b. 07-21-1789
Henry Elder b. ca. 1789
Henry Elder
Henry Elder b. 1854
Henry Elder
Henry Joseph Elder b. 06-07-1843
Henry Charles Elder b. 06-25-1859 d. 01-06-1923
Henry Edward Elder b. 06-10-1860
Henry Melvin Elder b. 11-08-1907 d. 12-13-1942
Henry Francis Elder b. 01-12-1888 d. 08-22-1971
Henry Lee Elder b. 09-05-1886
Henry McMillan Elder b. 11-22-1923 d. 04-06-1945
Henry Edward Elder b. 08-15-1914
Henry William Elder b. 04-14-1931
Henry Edward Elder, Jr. b. 06-30-1947
Henry Elder b. 05-15-1898 d. 10-02-1985
Henry W. Elder b. 11-  -1883 d. 09-22-1955
Henry Elder b. 12-  -1892
Henry David Elder b. 12-31-1850 d. 03-06-1853
Henry Benson Elder b. 11-18-1863 d. 11-26-1923
Henry C. Elder b. ca. 1842
Henry L. Elder b. 1821
Henry Elder b. 11-05-1829
Henry F. Elder b. 11-08-1860 d. 08-12-1933

I have three Charles Henry Elder's:
Charles Henry Elder b. 01-04-1861 Mead Co., KY
Charles Henry Elder b. 02-14-1914
Charles Henry Elder b. 02-25-1911

If you need other information on the above  I will be glad to give you
what I have.

Lee M. Elder

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