Subject: [Elder-News]: Wm. W. Elder b. 1803 Pa. & son Wm. b. 1842. & son Henry Cle. b. in
Mo.
From: smbail@webtv.net
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 20:13:10 -0500 (CDT)
The 1803 Wm W. Elder md. Jane ? (she was b. 1810 in Ohio). I'm sure they probaly had several children , but the only childs name we have is William. 1842 Wm. md. Mary Jane Harr, Feb. 11, 1867. She's the dau of Chas. Harr (b. abt. 1816 in Ohio) & wife Rachel ? (b. abt. 1820 in PA ). They had Henry & I think a Mary, not sure. HENRY CLEMENTS ELDER, b. 1869 in Athens, Clark Co. Mo. md. EFFIE ALICE STEVENS (don't know marriage date) but probably abt. 1885? Effie b. Mar. 22, 1868 near Memphis, Mo. He had 1 son Loyal, who lived & died in Mo. Hope you can help, but if not, could you please direct this to someone who could. Kind regards, Shirley
Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER-TALLENT
From: Steve&Betty Snow <snow2@erols.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 23:53:57 -0400
I saw an entry in the TALLENT GenForum and am interested in learning more about this ELDER connection and whether it is accurate. .. 2 William TALLENT b: June 16, 1791 d: June 30, 1865 ...... +MARY .. *2nd Wife of William Tallent: ...... +Frances RICHMOND b: 1796 ...... 3 Amanda TALLENT b: 1821 .......... +J. C. ELDER b: 1821 Do you know where Amanda and J.C. ELDER's marriage might have been recorded? What else is known about William and his wives?
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder-Tallent
From: Lee Elder <elder@trailnet.com>
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 13:17:30 -0500
Hi Steve & Betty: I have several Tallent members in my Elder family but none are names William.. Lee M. Elder
From: Jude Criddle <jcriddle@bigpond.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:47:52 +0800
Hi, trying to trace - William Elder born 1847 Newcastle-on tyne, England, he died in Boulder W.Australia 1903 he married Elizabeth Mills (they had 7 children) one called Henry born 1881. My line is Henry (Harry) Elder from Newcastle on tyne England, married Margaret Reay, they both died in Australia. Can't get back any further. Where did the Elder Clan originate from? regards Jude
Subject: [Elder-News]: Re: <no subject>
From: "Lawrence D. Weems" <lweems@coin.org>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:34:42 -0500
> Hi, trying to trace - William Elder born 1847 Newcastle-on tyne, England, > he died in Boulder W.Australia 1903 > he married Elizabeth Mills (they had 7 children) one called Henry born 1881. > My line is Henry (Harry) Elder from Newcastle on tyne England, married > Margaret Reay, they both died in Australia. Can't get back any further. > Where did the Elder Clan originate from? > regards > Jude > > Hi Jude, No help on your people. Sorry, But look at the below from Lee's book. Happy Hunting, Larry -- ******************************************************************* "In answering any Genealogy questions, please include sufficient information that I may be able to find the person in my database--cold. Your ID #'s will not align with mine and as I am ususally following your outline I only send abbreviated data. Thank you. Larry" ********************* ********************* THE HISTORY OF THE ELDER FAMILY. Preface to the book "Genealogy of the Elder Clan, Revised Jan 2000" The earliest history we have of the Elder "clan", they were living in Scotland in the 15th century. Eventually they emigrated to England and Ireland on account of their religious liberties and viewpoints. Peter Elder, Sr. along with two brothers, came to this country in the early 1600's. They landed at Norfolk, VA but do not appear in a book of immigrants. Peter came over as a stowaway and working out his passage with a rich merchant It required several years. His two brothers later went on to other parts of the country. One to Maryland and one to Ohio and then to Harrisburg, PA. Peter was a fine specimen of young manhood, but was poor and uneducated. He was determined to do a good job for the merchant because he was falling in love with the merchant's daughter. He hesitated a long time to make known his love for her because of their social and financial differences. She never shunned or spurned him. Peter could not elope with her but the merchant told him that his daughter could steal him away and get married in the next county. Finally their romance was complete with their "elopement" and marriage at the Dinwiddie Co., VA courthouse. It is on record there tis this day. From this union came their son Peter Jr. who married Elizabeth. They had a son named William b 1688. William married a woman named Ann from Richmond CO., VA. Peter Sr. was very likely born in the early 1600's. He died in 1674. He lived in Old Rappahannock (now Essex) Co., VA and in all probability is buried there in the cemetery at the Episcopal or Presbyterian Church. The records of that county state that Peter bought land on the north side of the Rappahannock River from David Mansell on March 22, 1665 or 1666, which joined the properties of Luke Billingston and Mr. Bayless or Baylor. Refer to the land records of 1653-1668, p3. The will of Pete, Sr. is recorded in the Old Rappahannock Co., records of 1664-1674 (see Virginia Wills of 1631-1800) Said will mentions his desire to have Mr. Richard Peacock care for his under-age son, Peer. He chose Mr. Peacock above all others. WILL OF PETER ELDER, SR. In the name of God, Amen. The last will and testament of Peter Elder being in perfect sense and memory do Bequeath my soul to God and my body to the earth. Item: I do bequeath my son Peter Elder unto Mr. Richard Peacock he being my son's godfather, whom I have made choice above all others an as for what stock of cattle I have I give to my son Peter, and a heifer of three years old by bill from John Arnold one to be paid according to bill-Mr... Peacock to have the benefit of them until my son comes to be one and twenty-four years of age. Mr. Peacock to have the male and my son the female, and as for my plantation and all moveable goods else, Mr. Peacock is to take into his custody until the boy comes to be one and twenty. In this appointment my loving friend Mr. Richard Peacock to be my executor full and whole and to the time performance of this my last will and testament, I left my hand and seal this 28th day of April, 1674. HIS MARK (Seal) Signed, sealed and deliver in the presence of us: George Howell Richard Applebee Mr. R. A. Marke We, George Howell and Richard Applebee do declare that we did see the within mentioned Peter Elder sign and seale and publish this within mentioned to be his last will and testament and that he was in perfect mind and memory to the best of our judgements as witnesses, our hands this 5th of August, 1674 George Howell Richard (R. A.) Applebee
Subject: [Elder-News]: John Elder 1743-Nov.1800
From: Ether43@aol.com
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 09:42:19 EDT
I have been working on my Elder line in Western PA. for over a year to
unravel all of the Roberts, Johns, Thomas' ,etc. who lived in this area. Here
are my results;
John Elder -b. 1743 in Paxtung, Dauphin Co.,PA d. Nov. 1800
(Indiana Co.WB 1,p.158)
married to Mary Carothers/Caruthers d. 2 July 1825 ( Indiana Co. WB 1 p.128
)
Children:1. Thomas
b. Abt. 1774 d. 1852 Conemaugh Twp., Indiana Co., PA
(Letter of Administration #1176,
24May1852,Indiana Co.)
married Rebecca (?Wallace) abt. 1802
b.abt.1775 d. 1859 Conemaugh Twp., Indiana Co., PA
( Indiana Co. WB 1 #1624 proved 12
Feb. 1859)
2. Isabella
married Alexander Thompson
3. Joseph
4. James (under age on will in 1800)
5. Elizabeth (under age in will in 1800)
married Alexander McCutchen
6. Robert (under age in will in 1800)
b. 20 March 1790/91 d. 29 Jan. 1859 E. Mahoning Twp.,
Indiana Co.
buried in Ebenezer Church
Cemetery,Indiana Co.
married Jane McConaughy b. 1800 d. 1829 Indiana Co.
1. Thomas and Rebecca Wallace Elder
a. Rebecca b. 1803 d. 14 Oct. 1862 Conemaugh Twp., Indiana Co.
married William McNeal b. 22 June 1799 d. 17 Oct. 1881 Indiana Co.
b. John Wallace Elder b. 1809 d. 19 July 1868
(buried Clarksburg
Presby.Cemetery)
married Mary Irwin b. 1811 d. 13 Mar. 1896 (Clarksburg Presby
Cemetery)
c. Dorcus M. b.9 April 1815 d. 27 July 1890 Indiana Co. (Ebenezer
Cemetery)
married Samuel Irwin on 28 Oct. 1841 b. 22Dec. 1817 d. 12 Aug.
1898
d. Isabella b. 1814 ( living with sister Rebecca in 1860 census age
48. )
e. Racheal - married John Wilson Fulton
f. Anna - married Moses Kirkpatrick
g. Mary Violet b. 1832 married Joseph P. Kreibler
h. Julia Ann b. 1828
William and Rebecca Elder McNeal is my line. There is an Orphan Court
Document in Indiana Co., PA ,20 June 1859, p. 512 that shows William and
Rebecca bought her siblings share of a property on Black Leggs Creek when her
mother , Rebecca Wallace Elder died .
Is there any proof of the maiden name Rebecca Wallace ???
Anyone have any further information on any of these Elders???
Nancy
Subject: [Elder-News]: Addition to Thomas and Rebecca Elder
From: Ether43@aol.com
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 09:51:11 EDT
OOPS, forgot 3 children for Thomas and Rebecca Wallace Elder
i. Sarah b. 1822
j. Ann b. 1826
k.Jane b. 1819 d. 1891 (buried in Coles Cemetery,Derry, Westmoreland
Co.Pa)
married James Cochran b. 2 Aug. 1832 d.20 Nov. 1886 (Coles Cem.)
Nancy
Subject: [Elder-News]: Crittenden County Circuit Court
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@email.msn.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 21:30:25 -0700
ELDER This might be of help on some of the Elder Families. This was a post when I was on *P from B.J. no years where give on the post at that time date was 9/6/__. "REFERENCE: CRITTENDEN COUNTY, KENTUCKY CIRCUIT COURT BUNDLE #166; Nancy Elder, pltf, vs John Henry, James Henry, William Henry, Samuel Henry, Jane Dickey, Rebecca Hillhouse, Elizabeth Hillhouse, Mary A. Alexander, Margaret McNealy, and Margaret Smith & Abram Knight, defts. The pltf. Nancy Elder, states that her father, Samuel Henry, died leaving 10 children besides herself, to wit. John James William Samuel Jane Rebecca Elizabeth Mary AnnÝ Margaret & Martha (no commas between names), she states that James John & Wm are dead that they died leaving some heirs but who they are or where and she does not know. She states that Jane mar: Alex. Dickey and is dead, who or how many heirs she may have left she does not know.Ý Rebecca married R. D. Hillhouse, Elizabeth married David Hillhouse, Mary Ann married James Alexander, Margaret married William McNealy and Martha married Hors (sic) Smith. She does not know whether they are living or dead, where they may be or who their heirs are. She does know they all left KY a great while ago and if any returned, she does not know it. Her father, Samuel Henry in his life time made an entry & survey (200 acres) lying in Livingston Co., KY. (now Crittenden) on waters of Hurricane Ck bounded as shown by a patent dated 10 April 1857. The survey was made 27 Aug 1803 and registered in Land Office, but as the state price was to be pd by installments and was not fully paid until some time afterwards, and no patent was issued at that time. She says her father was living upon the land at the time, continued to live there for some time when he moved away no patent had yet been issued & when he left this country he gave the benefit of this survey to this pltf by parole, telling her if she would pay the remainder of the state price & procure the patent, she might have it, but she states she was then mar: to George Elder and they claimed it all the time under the survey made by her father. Her husband neglected to procure the patent until the time shown above. Her husband finished paying the state price & procured the patent & by right she ought to have the whole of the tract of land. If not she should have one undivided 11th part & her expenses. Her husband died 28 August 1857. Defendant Abram Wright is now in adverse possession of land. (This is very long; I'm abstracting now): S. H. Elder filed suit later; he stated Nancy Elder departed this life intestate leaving 7 children surviving her & one dead who left children, to wit.Ý John Elder, who is dead & who left Margaret Elizabeth Martha & Ada as his heirs: S. H. Elder, William Elder, ?? Elder, George Elder, Margaret Elder, and Mary Elder, George Elder, Margaret Elder and Mary Elder and Eliza Elder. Mary and Eliza are married & live in Iowa, Jas. Elder lives in upper part of KY. (BJJ)." Ann Poe
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Crittenden County Circuit Court
From: Lee Elder <elder@trailnet.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:03:16 -0500
Hello Ann: I had to copy all of this information, by hand, because it spread out about five feet long and I couldn't print it out. Thanks anyway. Lee elderbrooks wrote: > Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Encoding: quoted-printable
Subject: [Elder-News]: antrim list over at Rootsweb
From: jessie <jessie@dakota2k.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 10:48:11 -0500
hello! i haven't posted here in almost a year but during that year i got bit by the genealogy bug pretty thoroughly! lol i just wanted those of us here who work on the Elder lineages from Antrim in Northern Ireland to know that there is a brand-new regional list for Antrim over at Rootsweb. it is called: NIR-ANTRIM-L i just signed up this week and so far there has been one posting. i've been working on all my lineages but Elder this summer. how about everyone else? any news from the folks interested in Antrim? best wishes Jessie Elder *please note* new email address jessie@dakota2k.net
Subject: [Elder-News]: [Elder-News]
From: Olive Mae Lindell <oml@penn.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:06:28 -0400
I am searching for a Hannah Elder married Ephraim Brooks abt 1792 in New York State. They were in Chenango Co. New York They are my GrGrgrandparents. I finally found Ephraim Brooks parents. And now wish I could find Hannah's parents. Thanks, Olive Mae Lindell , Russell, Pa.