Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: LIST INFO (misc.)
From: AFunGirl35 <AFunGirl35@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 04:15:56 EST
In a message dated 97-10-15 11:18:47 EDT, you write: > Also if you've developed a family history site of your own, let me know and > I'll add it to our World Wide Web sites listings. > Friday, 16 January 1998 Dear Donna - as you can see, the end of the year was rather hectic for me and my e-mail had to fall to the wayside a bit so I'm just now getting settled down again and back into the swing of things - I DO have a web site for genealogy although it's seriously "under construction" - check it out and see if you think you'd be able to add it to your listing - happy new year and happty hunting - take care - Christie <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/ca/Christieannescorner/">Christe Anne's Own Corner Of The Universe.</A>
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: 1910 and 1920 Census Headings
From: "Sharon L. Stasak" <gjslstasak@ameritech.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:48:55 -0500
Sherry, Thanks! Can you provide me with publication number for this book? Did you obtain it directly from the Department of Commerce? It sounds like an extremely handy book to have available. Thanks again. Sharon Stasak SherDH wrote: > > In a message Sharon wrote: > > << Thank you so much. I can give you the headings for the first 25 items > in the 1910 Census and will supply the last part when/if someone comes > up with them. > >> > > According to the book "200 Years of U.S. Census Taking: Population and Housing > Questions, 1790-1990" published by the US Department of Commerce, here are > headings #26-32. Handy book to have! > > Ownership of Home > 26 Owned or rented > 27 Owned free or mortgaged > 28 Farm or house > 29 Number of farm schedule > > 30 Whether a survivor of the Union or Confederate Army or Navy > 31 Whether blind (both eyes). > 32 Whether deaf and dumb. > > Sherry
Subject: [Elder-News]: Mathew Elder - Ireland to Pontiac County Quebec
From: Lacedonde <Lacedonde@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 09:09:41 EST
Looking for information on Mathew Elder, married to Elizabeth Collolly in Pontiac County Quebec about 1843. Children: James (from a previous marriage) John Rosanna Robert William Elizabeth (born 1855 in Canada) married to Robert Telford in 1874 and moved to Oconto County, Wisconsin
Subject: [Elder-News]: Continued on PA ELDER's from same source.
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:25:53 -0500
ELDER, Robert, Major of Fourth Battalion Lancaster County Associators, Colonel James BURD, in service March 25, 1776. (p.462 MUSTER ROLLS OF MILITIA, Vol. was not given). Will return need to go feed the dog. Ann
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: 1910 and 1920 Census Headings
From: SherDH <SherDH@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:15:46 EST
In a message dated 98-01-17 08:50:10 EST, Sharon L. Stasak wrote: << Thanks! Can you provide me with publication number for this book? Did you obtain it directly from the Department of Commerce? It sounds like an extremely handy book to have available. Thanks again. >> Sharon (and interested others), The book, "200 Years of U.S. Census Taking: Population and Housing Question, 1790-1990" is published by the Bureau of the Census and according to the info on the inside cover, is for sale by the Superintendent of Documents, US Government Printing Office, Washington, DC. I remember having a hard time running it down. I had orginally seen it at our local NARA branch - it would be super if they had them for sale! There's no publication number, just the title I believe I called the local census office, but it's been awhile and I forgot exactly how I got it or how much I paid for it! There is a phone number for the Census History Staff, Data User Services Division, Bureau of the Census in the back: 301/763-7936. They might be able to help, too. Hope you can find one. One really neat thing about it is that it's basically a copy of the instructions given the census takers so you can see the actual parameters they were looking for with the questions. There's some historical background too, along with some other census information. Sherry
Subject: [Elder-News]: Please Read ... Notes from the List Mom
From: Donna Logan <fanfare@intrepid.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:55:06 -0500
Hi Folks, With the New Year has come a BURST of welcome activity on our Elder News Email Sharing List and we are all grateful for everyone's contributions! And I must note especially those of you who are posting research documents from your own efforts .... these are priceless and we all thank you so much for sharing your hard work! With all the new activity our list is generating, it's a good time to remind everyone (and especially newcomers) that the default on our Sharing List is to REPLY TO the entire list of participants. In other words, if you select REPLY in your email program your reply will go out to the entire group (over 100 people currently). A good rule of thumb is to ask yourself which would be more appropriate - a reply to everyone on the list or just to the individual who sent the original posting? To reply to the entire list, all you do is hit the REPLY button in your email program. To REPLY to only the individual, you'll need to use copy and paste - copy the individual's email address from the original message and paste it into the TO section of your reply. I'll leave it up to your own good judgement as to what is appropriate for the list and what would be better sent to an individual. Thanks for your help with this. Also I will be taking some of these postings and creating RESEARCH web pages oriented to the area of interest. If anyone has posting something they would prefer not go up at the Elder Research Web site, please let me know. Thanks donna PS - for those of you who don't already know, Larry and I became grandparents on Dec. 5th. We have a new web page up for our little granddaughter, Logan Amanda Barrick, complete with all the usual newborn pics and a dedicational poem written by Grandpa Logan: http://www.intrepid.net/~fanfare/logan/
Subject: [Elder-News]: (PA-COUNTY OF BEDFORD--1771-1893 Same source.
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:55:49 -0500
ELDER, James---400acres---June 21, 1794 ELDER, James, Jr.---400 acres--June 21, 1794 ELDER, John, Jr.---400 acres----June 21, 1794 ELDER, Margaret...400acres---June 21, 1794 ELDER, Isbell...400 acres...June 21, 1794 ELDER, George...400acres...June 21, 1794 ELDER, Sarah...400acres...June 21, 1794 ELDER,John...400acres...June 21, 1794 ELDER, Catharine...400acres...Aug. 15, 1794 ELDER, Robert...400acres...Aug. 15, 1794 ELDER, Catherine...400acres...Sept. 10, 1794 ELDER, Robt.,...200acres...Feb. 21, 1804 ELDER, Robt.,...50acres...Feb. 12, 1805 Ann
Subject: [Elder-News]: Mathew Elder - Ireland to Pontiac County Quebec Canada
From: Lacedonde <Lacedonde@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:00:21 EST
I am looking for information on Mathew Elder, born in Ireland, and moved to Quebec prior to 1842. He married Elizabeth Connolly around 1843, and had the following children: James born to a previous wife Rosanna born 1844 John Robert WIlliam Elizabeth born 19 April 1855 - married Robert Telford 5 December 1874, and moved to Wisconsin
Subject: [Elder-News]: Continued: p. 580. WARRANTEES OF LAND
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:07:54 -0500
ELDER, Robert...100 acres...Sept 10, 1787 ELDER, Robert...50acres...Nov. 14, 1787 ELDER, John...400acres...Jan 29, 1794 ELDER, David...400acres...Jan 29, 1794 ELDER, Samuel...400acres...Jan 29, 1794. ELDER, Michael...400acres...Jan 29, 1794 ELDER, David...69.95acres...July 6, 1807 ELDER, Joshua...2 1/2 acres...June 2, 1814 ELDER, Thomas...400acres...Aug 3, 1816 ELDER, Thomas...120acres...Aug 3, 1816 ELDER, Thomas...300acres...Apr 18 1826 ELDER, Thomas & J. B. FERREE...100acres...July 3, 1826 ELDER, Thomas, ...15acres...Aug 25, 1826 ELDER, Thomas...300acres...Oct. 4, 1826 ELDER, Thomas...300acres...Oct. 5, 1827 ELDER, Thomas...140acres...Feb. 22, 1827 ELDER, Thomas...150acres...Feb 26, 1827 Ann
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Please Read ... Notes from the List Mom
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:19:50 -0500
CONGRATULATIONS...thank for everything you do. The reason you have such a good board, you allow "us" to be comfortable and do not restrict. Thank you. and so very happy to hear about the new baby, a beautiful name. Ann -----Original Message----- From: Donna Logan <fanfare@intrepid.net> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 9:09 PM Subject: [Elder-News]: Please Read ... Notes from the List Mom >Hi Folks, > >With the New Year has come a BURST of welcome activity on our Elder News >Email Sharing List and we are all grateful for everyone's contributions! >And I must note especially those of you who are posting research documents >from your own efforts .... these are priceless and we all thank you so much >for sharing your hard work! > >With all the new activity our list is generating, it's a good time to >remind everyone (and especially newcomers) that the default on our Sharing >List is to REPLY TO the entire list of participants. In other words, if you >select REPLY in your email program your reply will go out to the entire >group (over 100 people currently). A good rule of thumb is to ask yourself >which would be more appropriate - a reply to everyone on the list or just >to the individual who sent the original posting? To reply to the entire >list, all you do is hit the REPLY button in your email program. To REPLY >to only the individual, you'll need to use copy and paste - copy the >individual's email address from the original message and paste it into the >TO section of your reply. I'll leave it up to your own good judgement as >to what is appropriate for the list and what would be better sent to an >individual. Thanks for your help with this. > >Also I will be taking some of these postings and creating RESEARCH web >pages oriented to the area of interest. If anyone has posting something >they would prefer not go up at the Elder Research Web site, please let me >know. > >Thanks > >donna > > >PS - for those of you who don't already know, Larry and I became >grandparents on Dec. 5th. We have a new web page up for our little >granddaughter, Logan Amanda Barrick, complete with all the usual newborn >pics and a dedicational poem written by Grandpa Logan: > > http://www.intrepid.net/~fanfare/logan/ > > >
Subject: [Elder-News]: Continued..almost done. COUNTY OF DAUPHIN 1785-1895
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:54:23 -0500
COUNTY OF DAUPHIN 1785-1895, (same source)page 581 ELDER, Thomas, 300a...Date of Survey...Mar 6, 1827 ELDER, Thomas, 300a...Date of Survey...March 15, 1827 ELDER, Thomas, 300a...Date of Survey...March 19, 1827 ELDER, Thomas,300a....Date of Survey...March 20, 1827 ELDER, Thomas, 300a...Date of Survey...June 20, 1827 ELDER, Thomas,.300a...Date of Survey...June 21, 1827 ELDER, Thomas, 300a...Date of Survey...June 22, 1827 ELDER, Thomas, 300a...Date of Survey...Sept 1, 1827 ELDER, Thomas, 120a...Date of Survey...Sept 7, 1827 ELDER, Thomas, 300a...Date of Survey...Dec 3, 1827 ELDER, Thomas, 50a.....Date of Survey...Jan 3, 1828 ELDER, Thomas, 80a.....Date of Survey...Dec 4, 1829 ELDER, Thomas, 170a...Date of Survey...Dec 4, 1829 ELDER, Thomas, 300a...Date of Survey...Dec 5, 1829 ELDER, Thomas, 295a...Date of Survey...Jan 5 1830 ELDER, Thomas, 300a...Date of Survey...Apr 2 1830 ELDER, Thomas, 300a...Date of Survey...Apr 3, 1830 ELDER, Robt. & Mary S. DORANCE...182 1/4acres...Date of Survey..May 4 1830 ELDER, Thomas, ...250a...Oct 27 1830 Ann To Be Continued, (almost through)aebp
Subject: [Elder-News]: COUNTY OF CUMBERLAND-1750-1874, PAGE 669, SAME SOURCE
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 22:02:27 -0500
COUNTY OF CUMBERLAND-1750-1874 ELDER, Thomas...no acres given...Date of Survey...April 23, 1757 ELDER, James....150acres...Date of Survey...June 3, 1762 ELDER, James....50acres...Date of Survey...June 3, 1762 ELDER, George...200acres...Date of Survey...Sept 8, 1762 ELDER, David....200acres...Date of Survey...April 16, 1763 ELDER, John....259acres...Date of Survey...April 16, 1763 ELDER, James...50acres...Date of Survey...April 16, 1763 ELDER, David...100acres...Date of Survey...April 18, 1763 ELDER, Robt and wife in trust..100a...Date of Survey...Aug 20, 1765 ELDER, John...200acres...Date of Survey Sept 19, 1765 Ann
Subject: [Elder-News]: Jim's. Obituary Idea
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 22:21:28 -0500
Elder Obituaries-idea of Jim ELDER and I like it also, need assistance with the following one, it is old, not new. Sarah ELDER dau. of William & Mary Katharine (DOUGLASS) ELDER married James FRENCH in Jefferson Co., TN. Would like to make contact with a relative or someone who knows this family. Knoxville News Sentinel, Sept. 17, 1989, p.B-2...(the following was a daughter of Sarah ELDER FRENCH & James FRENCH)"Wagner, Rushia F.-age 87 years of 3929 Martin Mill Pike, passed away at her home 11.45 p.m. sunday. Member of Immanuel Baptist Church, Survivors: Son, Howard Wagner, Morristown; daughters, Lois Smith, Ruth McGill, Knoxville, Jo Ann Lucia, Talbott; Six grandchildren; 2 great-grandchildren. Buried Piedmont Cemetery, Rev Homer Cate officiating. Pallbearers will be grandsons. Mynatts in charge." Would like to hear from anyone who knew or knows this family, thank you, Ann Elder-Brooks Poe elderbroosk@msn.com
Subject: [Elder-News]: Early West Tennessee Marriages
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 20:06:44 -0500
Groom Bride Date County Benj. F.ELDER Margaret V. Hamilton 21 Jul 1853 Gibson Benj. ELDER Fannie Dickason 17 Mar 1862 Fayette Benjamin F. ELDER Louisa Davie 06 Dec 1858 Madison C. A. ELDER S. Belle Bright 02 Jun 1861 Gibson Claiborn ELDER Mary Ann Foster 03 May 1840 Obion E. N. ELDER R. M. Carthel 05 Sep 1866 Gibson Franklin ELDER Sarah Ann Jackson 31 Mar 1857 Lauderdale G. L. ELDER Susan J. Thomas 14 May 1863 McNairy G. W. ELDER Meliara J. Hanna 17 Feb 1869 Carroll Henry ELDER Amanda Harper 27 Dec 1869 Gibson J. M. ELDER Eliza E. Hughes 12 Jan 1871 Fayette J. M. ELDER S. A. Dickason 15 Jan 1861 Fayette John A. ELDER Anna Ellis 29 Sep 1880 Lauderdale John H. ELDER Sally Hickey 02 Feb 1826 Gibson John H. ELDER Sally Hickey 02 Feb 1828 Gibson John ELDER Nancy Burress 27 Apr 1842 Tipton John ELDER Ruth A Haislip 11 Jan 1846 Obion Joseph ELDER Emily Mildred Talley 05 Jul 1849 Tipton Munroe B. ELDER Lucy A. Baber 02 Nov 1837 Gibson P. G. ELDER Mary S. Price 16 Mar 1862 McNairy Patrick H. ELDER Sarahann Driver 18 Jul 1844 Fayette Phil ELDER Ellen Rucker 29 Mar 1875 Haywood R. F. ELDER L. E. Patten 07 Jan 1866 Carroll W. F. ELDER Martha E. Middleton 18 Dec 1883 Lauderdale William D. ELDER Sarah Jane Wilson 29 Jan 1857 Obion William E. ELDER Almira Carthel 24 Dec 1851 Gibson William ELDER Eliza Harper 07 Mar 1829 Gigson William ELDER Louiza Schrigs? 09 Jul 1861 Tipton William ELDER Sarah F. Ramsey 23 Jul 1834 Gibson Wm Franklin ELDER Lorania C. ELDER 19 Aug 1851 Tipton James ELDER, Jr. Mary F. Haislip 26 Oct 1853 Obion John ELDLER Virginia Henderson 04 Jan 1855 Obion FYI, Jim
Subject: [Elder-News]: Early West Tennessee Marriages
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 20:15:09 -0500
GROOMS BRIDES DATE COUNTY John L. H. Tomlin Amanda ELDER 19 May 1846 Gibson John H. Freeman Anna Bell ELDER 20 Sep 1866 Gibson Sparrel Hill Annie ELDER 20 Oct 1864 Gibson Guilliame Berson Bassie ELDER 08 Apr 1869 Gibson Guilliame Buson Bassie ELDER 08 Apr 1869 Gibson Tobe Vaughan Carolinie ELDER 07 Aug 1867 Gibson Ben Mitchel Eliza Jane ELDER 03 Apr 1873 Tipton W. G. Patterson Emma ELDER 22 Aug 1863 Gibson Georgge(sic) Blackwell Fanny ELDER 08 Jan 1829 Gibson John S. Bivins Frances ELDER 25 Sep 1867 Lauderdale James A. Underwood I.(J) (S).? ELDER 04 Mar 1885 Lauderdale Junor Burchett Jane ELDER 21 Sep 1837 Obion J. P. McGee Jennie C. ELDER 22 Feb 1866 Gibson Allen Barnes Jennie ELDER 30 Jun 1883 Lauderdale Joseph Barber Justina ELDER 17 Jul 1847 Obion W. O. Kelley Lucella ELDER 01Oct 1867 Gibson John Jackson Lucenda ELDER 21 Nov 1831 Gibson W. L. Sanders Malissa ELDER 14 Jul 1854 Fayette Jeremiah Stephens Margaret F.ELDER 04 May 1854 Obion S. H. Dunscomb Marietta C. ELDER 15 Nov 1854 Shelby John W. Conway Martha J. ELDER (No date-w. Dec 1847) Fayette James B. Williams Mrs Mary ELDER 12 Oct 1862 Obion Jabize S. Anderson Mary J. ELDER 07 Dec 1847 Fayette Benj. F. Burruss Mary ELDER 03 Jun 1851 Fayette Newton Dickson Mary ELDER 28 Feb 1850 Tipton Mosel? Bellar Missouri ELDER 03 Mar 1869 Tipton Asa Clements Nancy ELDER 06 Oct 1841 Fayette Ephraim Currey Ritter ELDER 15 Mar 1870 Gibson Asa Oliver Hickman S. E. ELDER 04 Jul 1850 Obion Jesse Grady Sally ELDER 13 Jun 1828 Gibson W. C. Ozier Sarah C. ELDER 02 Jan 1863 Fayette C. A. Goins Sarah F. B. ELDER 17 Mar 1843 Fayette Joel Nunn Sarah L. ELDER 13 Apr 1864 Gibson John A Walthall Sarah Ann ELDER 18 Jun 1848 Fayette Stephen Vaulx Sila (Lila) ELDER 16 Aug 1867 Haywood James T. Bridges Tennessee ELDER 22 Jul 1865 Obion Levy Evans Elizabeth ELDER? 23 Sep 1867 Lauderdale This completes the Early Tennessee Marriages. Taken From the 6 vol. Compiled By Byron & Barbara Sistler Nothing beats going to the original source document to verify names and dates. Jim
Subject: [Elder-News]: Obituary: Erwin N. Elder
From: GElder <GElder@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 22:50:26 EST
The following obituary was taken from the Jan. 16, 1998, Topeka Capital- Journal. OTTAWA, KS - Erwin N. Elder, 86, Ottawa, died Wednesday, Jan. 14, 1998, at an Ottawa hospital. Mr. Elder was a co-owner of the Ottawa Millworks Co., where he worked until 1982. He also helped found the PEL Construction Co. in 1959. He earlier had taught mathematics and coached sports at Piedmont and Howard for six years. He served two years in the Air Force as an instructor. He was born Sept. 10, 1911, at Alluwe, Okla., the son of Thomas Erwin and Mae Elizabeth Shaw Elder. He was raised at Eureka and was graduated from Eureka High School in 1931. He graduated from Ottawa University, where he was a four-year letterman in football and basketball, in 1935. Mr. Elder was a member of First United Methodist Church in Ottawa, where he served as a trustee and taught the Sunshine Sunday School class. He was a former director of the Ottawa Area Chamber of Commerce. He was a member and former director for Ottawa Country Club. He also was a member of the Elk's Lodge and the American Legion. He was married to Doris Parks on Aug. 26, 1936, in Ottawa. She survives. Other survivors include a daughter, Anne Elder Coady, Russell; a brother, Vance N. Elder, Springdale, Ark.; and two grandchildren. Services will be at 10 a.m., Saturday at Lamb-Roberts-Heise Funeral Home in Ottawa. Burial will be in Highland Cemetery, Ottawa. Mr. Elder will lie in state after 9 a.m. today at the funeral home. Memorial contributions may be made to the Ottawa University football program to establish a scholarship and sent in care of the funeral home.
Subject: [Elder-News]: Will of Samuel Elder written July 1809 in Sevier Co., TN.
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:14:30 -0500
Hi (Lee I hope you are checking in please). I was going to direct this to Lee Elder but we have many of the TN ELDER'S. Samuel Elder made his will 16th of July 1809, Sevier Co., TN. Naming first his wife, HANNA then it is spelled HANNAH from that point. In naming order: Andrew Elder, then Hannah again which she receives her dower. ESTHER WIDNER wife of Micheal WIDNER (as sp) Robert ELDER and bequeath all the rest of my Estate to my sons namely WILLIAM ELDER, JACOB ELDER, SAMUEL ELDER, JOHN ELDER & ANDREW ELDER at the death of my well beloved HANNAH ELDER. I constitute and ordain my well beloved Friends ALLEN BRYAN SENIOR and PETER BRYAN my whole and sole executors of this my last Will and Testament. Signed Samuel ELDER (SEAL) Signed Sealed and pronounced and delivered in the presence of us and we in his presence and in us the presence of each other hereunto Subscribed our names PETER BRYAN, THOMAS BRYAN....JAMES (X) McELHANEY JUNR State of Tennessee Sevier County . This day came before me Samuel HENRY one of the acting Justices of the county aforesaid PETER BRYAN & THOMAS BRYAN and voluntarily made oath they saw SAMUEL ELDER deceased Sign Seal and acknowledge this annexed Will bearing the following date Viz the 16th day of July 1809 to be his last Will and Testament Where the said Peter Bryan Thomas Bryan & James McElhaney, Junr the Subscribers - Witness thereto Peter BRYAN (SEAL) THOMAS BRYAN (SEAL) Sworn to and subscribed before Samuel HENRY one of the acting Justices of the County aforesaid this 28th day of June 1811. Samuel HENRY ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- The following was left out of the printed will of Samuel ELDER and it is very important. This is to certify that ALLEN BRYAN AND PETER BRYAN do protest against acting as executors of the said SAMUEL ELDER deceased Will. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- I do certify that the above was proven in open court by the oath of JAMES McELHANEY the subscribing Witness thereto this 17th day of May 1813 & delivered to me to be recorded. W. H. WINSTON Clerk ________________________________________________________________ Samuel ELDER'S will was first probated in Sevier County TN., June 28, 1811 and TWO YEARS later it was proven in Madison County, AL. by James McELHANEY one the the subscribing witness. The will was recorded in Madison County AL only because Peter and Allen BRYAN "do protest against acting as executors of the said Will of Samuel ELDER. It was not taken to Madison Co because Samuel ELDER had a son in AL. by 1811 Andrew the son in AL was probably in another county. I had a CG go over this for me. It is of no importance that Andrew ELDER be around, Jacob ELDER was in KY. The will was sent back to Sevier Co. It is fortunate for us that this will was recorded in Madison Co as well as Sevier Co TN, the fire destroyed everything. Hannah the beloved widow is waiting for this to be settled! Hannah's maiden name is unknown, no clue. This will names the BRYANS, could they have been her brother's? Usually the widow has at least one close relative or friend as a witness & executor? The published will does not show that the BRYAN'S withdrew, this make a difference. All does not appear to be as it should. I am sorry this is so long, I would appreciate opinions on the will. Thank you, Ann elderbrooks@msn.com
Subject: [Elder-News]: Jessie ELDER 1788-1859
From: Jackie Carter <quasidoc@pacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:47:51 -0800
Hi, My Great Grandmother was Nancy Belle ELDER b. 6 Feb 1860 in Pulaski Co., KY m. George C. LEWELLEN 16Jun 1880 in Holt Co., MO. My Great Great Grandfather was John Levi ELDER b.4 Dec 1837 in Pulaski Co.,KY m. Sciota Bethene RAINWATER 24 Feb.1859 in Pulaski Co.,KY. He was the 9th child of My Great Great Great Grandfather Jessie ELDER b. 1788 NC. m. Mary Ellen "Polly" DAVIS 25 Feb. 1813 in Casey Co., KY. d. 16 Sept in Pulaski, Ky I'm looking for the parents of Jessie. Jessie was mentioned in his grandfather's will (Peter ELDER b. 01 Dec. 1741 in North Farnham Parish, Richmond county, Virginia; d. 1804 in Surry County, N.C.; m. to Elizabeth). I have decendants of Jessie and ascendants of Peter, but am stuck as far as Jessie's Parents. Thank you. Sincerely, Jackie L. Carter 18860 Avenue D Perris, California 92570 e-mail= quasidoc@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Jessie ELDER 1788-1859
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:54:28 -0500
Jackie, I have asked for some research to be done by the Pulaski County Ky Historical Society, they are all volunteers and do a wonderful job. Although my first interest being Jacob Elder and family. I know enought about your family to be very interested. I thought there had been a Peter Elder I, who had a son Peter and then Peter has two sons, I have no idea now, it has been a search for many of us. There is a lady on here who knows this line as it is her line. But others share that same line. As soon as I hear from Pulaski Co will be on the Elder list. I never knew about a Jesse Elder for a long time. Ann elderbrooks@msn.com -----Original Message----- From: Jackie Carter <quasidoc@pacbell.net> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Monday, January 19, 1998 9:05 PM Subject: [Elder-News]: Jessie ELDER 1788-1859 >Hi, > >My Great Grandmother was Nancy Belle ELDER b. 6 Feb 1860 >in Pulaski Co., KY m. George C. LEWELLEN 16Jun 1880 >in Holt Co., MO. > >My Great Great Grandfather was John Levi ELDER b.4 Dec 1837 >in Pulaski Co.,KY m. Sciota Bethene RAINWATER >24 Feb.1859 in Pulaski Co.,KY. He was the 9th child of > >My Great Great Great Grandfather Jessie ELDER b. 1788 NC. >m. Mary Ellen "Polly" DAVIS 25 Feb. 1813 in Casey Co., KY. d. 16 Sept in >Pulaski, Ky > >I'm looking for the parents of Jessie. Jessie was mentioned in his grandfather's will (Peter ELDER >b. 01 Dec. 1741 in North Farnham Parish, Richmond county, Virginia; d. 1804 in Surry County, N.C.; >m. to Elizabeth). I have decendants of Jessie and ascendants of Peter, but am stuck as far as >Jessie's Parents. Thank you. > >Sincerely, >Jackie L. Carter >18860 Avenue D >Perris, California 92570 > >e-mail= quasidoc@pacbell.net >
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Will of Samuel Elder written July 1809 in Sevier Co., TN.
From: renee@campus.mlc.edu
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:36:10 -0600
Ann and others interested in this line... I know that this doesn't answer your questions about Hannah, but maybe the Andrew Elder who is in Casey County, KY at the same time your Jacob is in Pulaski County, KY could be the missing Andrew. Since my Jesse Elder is in Casey and Pulaski Counties, I have kept notes on other Elder families in the vicinity. I have not been able to connect this Andrew to my line, but do have notes on stones located in the Elder cemetery on land donated by Andrew Elder. The cemetery is located in extreme north east Casey County and both Andrew and his wife Lettice have stones there. I will dig out my notes and post what I have on Andrew and the cemetery if you are interested. Renee Bunck in Fremont, NE
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Jessie ELDER 1788-1859
From: renee@campus.mlc.edu
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:48:07 -0600
>My Great Grandmother was Nancy Belle ELDER b. 6 Feb 1860 >in Pulaski Co., KY m. George C. LEWELLEN 16Jun 1880 >in Holt Co., MO. > >My Great Great Grandfather was John Levi ELDER b.4 Dec 1837 >in Pulaski Co.,KY m. Sciota Bethene RAINWATER >24 Feb.1859 in Pulaski Co.,KY. He was the 9th child of > >My Great Great Great Grandfather Jessie ELDER b. 1788 NC. >m. Mary Ellen "Polly" DAVIS 25 Feb. 1813 in Casey Co., KY. d. 16 Sept in >Pulaski, Ky > >I'm looking for the parents of Jessie. Jessie was mentioned in his grandfather's will (Peter ELDER >b. 01 Dec. 1741 in North Farnham Parish, Richmond county, Virginia; d. 1804 in Surry County, N.C.; >m. to Elizabeth). I have decendants of Jessie and ascendants of Peter, but am stuck as far as >Jessie's Parents. Thank you. e-mail= quasidoc@pacbell.net Jackie and all... I believe we have compared notes before, but maybe it is time to do it again. I am also a descendant of Jesse Elder and Mary Ellen "Polly" Davis. Their oldest son, Landon Davis Elder, is my is my gg-grandfather. I too, have been searching for Jesse's parents and would love to hear from anyone who has ideas on how to locate them. Descendants of Peter Elder - William Elder and Mary (Davenport), Sarah (Elder) and John Davenport, along with Jesse move from NC to Casey County, KY several years after Peter Elder's death. Some researchers have suggested that William - given responsibility for Jesse in Peter's will is Jesse's father. That could be, but I have found a court record that was filed after William's death in 1828 that lists his heirs married and unmarried and does not include Jesse. Jesse and his family are nearby, so I believe they would have been listed in the document if William claimed Jesse as his son. What do you think? If you are interested, I have had better success in locating the parents of Polly Davis. She is listed in the will of her father - Landon Davis as Polly Elder. Maybe the court record on William Elder and the will of Landon Davis would be good candidates for Donna's new Elder Research area. Renee Bunck in Fremont, NE renee@campus.mlc.edu
Subject: [Elder-News]: Jeremiah ELDER.
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:33:13 -0500
What do we know about Jeremiah ELDER, son of Joseph & Mary MATTHEWS ELDER, b. ca 1771 in Dinwiddie or Brunswick County, VA. Did he die about 1801 in Brunswick County? Are there probate or guardianship records known to ELDER-NEWS listeners? If he died in 1801 he would have minor children.? Appreciate any response on this. Thanks, Jim
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Will of Samuel Elder written July 1809 in Sevier Co., TN.
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:16:25 -0500
Hi Renee, I confused the issue. There was an Andrew Elder who was born in PA, as was his brother Robert ELDER who moved to Lincoln Co KY after his mother died and Robert is buried McCormick/or McCormack along with his wife and sister. Robert was also born in PA according to his Rev war pension person or declaration for pension. The Andrew Elder whose papers read almost identical to the Andrew in KY and lived the same places. Andrew Elder whose pension was denied in Grainger Co TN; b. PA;resided in VA; Rev war soldier;back to VA, then to Sullivan Co, as he had a sister in Sullivan who married a Snodgrass. Then he turned up in Grainger. I have no idea if he is any realtionship to our Elder's (mine & others) but I believe he was the son of Matthew Elder who came through PA., died in Washington Co., VA 1783 and named all of his children in his will and his wife, Mary whom I think was a Kincannon. I do have considerable information about the Elder's in KY which I found in Washington Co VA., once I work my way to it. Mary Brosveen a dear lady, who after many years of research became a CG and worked mainly on supplemental ancestors believes that the Andrew who went to Grainger is the son of Matthew Elder and that Andrew Elder in KY became mixed up, she was so sure I made several trips to find information, very little information is available in VA since both the Union Army and Confederate Army both burned everything in sight, mainly it seems the courthouses! I have found a tax record which indicates that a Andrew Elder owned property in VA at the same time Matthew Elder did, so I've wondered if we might not have two named Andrew Elder. Jacob Elder is not realted to Andrew Elder of KY, the consent form for Jacob Elder is signed by his father Samuel Elder, I have run his line and so far have no doubt that Jacob was of the Elder's I come from. Jacob died in Lincoln Co KY, I do not know where he is buried and I have no idea where his first wife Nancy Collier is buried. Matthew Elder had a dau. who married a C ollier. We had numerous Collier's in the Jefferson Co, Sevier Co and East TN area, I think they like so many came from VA. We have always wondered why Jacob went to KY? It was so close to Robert Elder son of Matthew Elder? I know that someone knows, I was in contact with a gentleman who said he knew the relationship, then he backed away but he was working for two people at the same time and I know the other party would not have gone on with the research. I hope that someone can help, I have a grandson named Jacob and I did not choose the name, Matthew Jacob! I've also wondered if all the three year old children from the time of our ancestors went through this three thing. I may just have someone do some research for me, I have several names and addresses which the gentleman sent me. He did get Jacob Elder's will for me, which was recorded in Lincoln Co KY, 1818. Jacob's second wife was Hannah Moorehead, married in Lincoln Co., KY. I know that a book has the name Joseph Elder but it is indeed Jacob on the original record. Let me know please if you find anything more and when I hear once again from Pulaski will let you know. I do not even entertain the idea that Jacob could be closely related to Jesse Elder, more than those two Elder's were in Pulaski Co Ky. Thanks Renee, I appreciate all the help I can get on our Elder's, Ann -----Original Message----- From: renee@campus.mlc.edu <renee@campus.mlc.edu> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Will of Samuel Elder written July 1809 in Sevier Co., TN. >Ann and others interested in this line... > I know that this doesn't answer your questions about Hannah, but >maybe the Andrew Elder who is in Casey County, KY at the same time your >Jacob is in Pulaski County, KY could be the missing Andrew. Since my >Jesse Elder is in Casey and Pulaski Counties, I have kept notes on other >Elder families in the vicinity. I have not been able to connect this > >Andrew to my line, but do have notes on stones located in the Elder cemetery >on land donated by Andrew Elder. The cemetery is located in extreme >north east Casey County and both Andrew and his wife Lettice have stones >there. I will dig out my notes and post what I have on Andrew and the >cemetery if you are interested. > >Renee Bunck in Fremont, NE >
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Jessie ELDER 1788-1859
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:20:28 -0500
Hi All & Jackie, Last week or week before I sent for information on these Elder's again, the information has grown, they are all volunteers, but the same lady who helped me before is there and she answered my letter. So as soon as I hear I will post so we can all share. It seems we are all interested in these Elder's. More later, Ann -----Original Message----- From: Jackie Carter <quasidoc@pacbell.net> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Monday, January 19, 1998 9:05 PM Subject: [Elder-News]: Jessie ELDER 1788-1859 >Hi, > >My Great Grandmother was Nancy Belle ELDER b. 6 Feb 1860 >in Pulaski Co., KY m. George C. LEWELLEN 16Jun 1880 >in Holt Co., MO. > >My Great Great Grandfather was John Levi ELDER b.4 Dec 1837 >in Pulaski Co.,KY m. Sciota Bethene RAINWATER >24 Feb.1859 in Pulaski Co.,KY. He was the 9th child of > >My Great Great Great Grandfather Jessie ELDER b. 1788 NC. >m. Mary Ellen "Polly" DAVIS 25 Feb. 1813 in Casey Co., KY. d. 16 Sept in >Pulaski, Ky > >I'm looking for the parents of Jessie. Jessie was mentioned in his grandfather's will (Peter ELDER >b. 01 Dec. 1741 in North Farnham Parish, Richmond county, Virginia; d. 1804 in Surry County, N.C.; >m. to Elizabeth). I have decendants of Jessie and ascendants of Peter, but am stuck as far as >Jessie's Parents. Thank you. > >Sincerely, >Jackie L. Carter >18860 Avenue D >Perris, California 92570 > >e-mail= quasidoc@pacbell.net > ;
Subject: [Elder-News]: Family Tree Maker CD's
From: "Doug McLaughlin" <Dougm@localaccess.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:55:27 -0800
Hello to all Elder family researchers, Is anyone out there using The Family Tree Maker CD's? I am particularly interested in Family Archive CD's #'s 316 thru 319. I am helping a group of APEX (gifted kids) students on an internet research project, where a quick lookup on those CD's would help direct their further research. Please reply to our individual E-mail address and not to the group. Thanks, Member #254 Dougm@localaccess.com or Bamboo@localaccess.com Doug McLaughlin Alana Francis Rochester, WA
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Jeremiah ELDER.
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:56:01 -0500
Hi, how long do we have on this puzzle Jim. I think I know that he was the son of William Edmond & Ann Elder of Richmond Co VA. I saw him on Sistler's 1850 TN census, I think that was probably him. I have a correspondent who comes from Joesph, but she never searched Jeremiah ELDER, that is all I know today. Jim, if you can locate where Jeremiah ELDER died, someone should read the county court records usually they will have the name of the guardian and the children by name, each child, and every six months to one year you will find them again, one will be gone as the child has reached the age of majority. I am going to print this, I doubt that Wilma knows anymore, she fell last year and broke her hip, I've tried to call but each time no answer. I know that she probably had information in the Sacramento Ca library. I will put this an VIP along with Joseph and his descendants. It takes a long long time, I thought it would be a breeze. Ann -----Original Message----- From: jpgolden@juno.com <jpgolden@juno.com> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 8:00 PM Subject: [Elder-News]: Jeremiah ELDER. >What do we know about Jeremiah ELDER, son of Joseph & Mary MATTHEWS >ELDER, b. ca 1771 in Dinwiddie or Brunswick County, VA. Did he die about >1801 in Brunswick County? Are there probate or guardianship records >known to ELDER-NEWS listeners? If he died in 1801 he would have minor >children.? > >Appreciate any response on this. > >Thanks, > > Jim >
Subject: [Elder-News]: I made a BIG mistake.
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:59:45 -0500
Jeremiah ELDER was not the son of William & Anne Elder of Richmond Co Va., but he was of that family, I will look it up tomorrow, I left some papers at work today (to read at lunch not on the job) and all the names of William's children are on it. I am so sorry to give you bad information. Ann
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Jeremiah ELDER.
From: "James C. Elder" <jcelder@mho.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:37:23 -0700
For what it's worth, Lee Elder's GENEALOGY OF THE ELDER CLAN says this Jeremiah ELDER married Elviah HERRING and cites Will dated 1801, Brunswick Co. Va., Will Book 6, Page 306. There is no source citation for where this information came from and no copy of the will given. Maybe one of our list members who has access to Brunswick County records could check that and advise the list. Jim Elder -----Original Message----- From: elderbrooks <elderbrooks@msn.com> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Jeremiah ELDER. >Hi, how long do we have on this puzzle Jim. I think I know that he was the >son of William Edmond & Ann Elder of Richmond Co VA. I saw him on Sistler's >1850 TN census, I think that was probably him. I have a correspondent who >comes from Joesph, but she never searched Jeremiah ELDER, that is all I know >today. > >Jim, if you can locate where Jeremiah ELDER died, someone should read the >county court records usually they will have the name of the guardian and the >children by name, each child, and every six months to one year you will find >them again, one will be gone as the child has reached the age of majority. > >I am going to print this, I doubt that Wilma knows anymore, she fell last >year and broke her hip, I've tried to call but each time no answer. I know >that she probably had information in the Sacramento Ca library. I will put >this an VIP along with Joseph and his descendants. It takes a long long >time, I thought it would be a breeze. > >Ann >-----Original Message----- >From: jpgolden@juno.com <jpgolden@juno.com> >To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> >Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 8:00 PM >Subject: [Elder-News]: Jeremiah ELDER. > > >>What do we know about Jeremiah ELDER, son of Joseph & Mary MATTHEWS >>ELDER, b. ca 1771 in Dinwiddie or Brunswick County, VA. Did he die about >>1801 in Brunswick County? Are there probate or guardianship records >>known to ELDER-NEWS listeners? If he died in 1801 he would have minor >>children.? >> >>Appreciate any response on this. >> >>Thanks, >> >> Jim >> > > > > >
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Jeremiah ELDER.
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:25:17 -0500
This is the confusing data. Jeremiah ELDER's Will dated 1801 in Brunswick County, VA. Yet, Jeremiah ELDER married Elvirah HERRING in Clarke County, GA 25th Nov, 1822. He was living in Oglethorpe County, GA in the 1830 Census as a 20-30 year old. He was in Fayette County, TN in 1840 and in the 1850 Census of Fayette County, TN; he says he was born in 1801 in Virginia. He was gone by the 1860 Census but one of his sons is there as a single. I suspect that he died there before 1860. He is sometimes given the middle initial of M. which could be Matthews. He was probablly the son of Jeremiah, the son of Joseph & Mary MATTHEWS ELDER. I have been unable to find Brunswick County probate records in the Libraries here. If anyone can help with the Will or probate it will save me ordering several roles of microfilm. Thanks, Jim On Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:37:23 -0700 "James C. Elder" <jcelder@mho.net> writes: >For what it's worth, Lee Elder's GENEALOGY OF THE ELDER CLAN says this >Jeremiah ELDER married Elviah HERRING and cites Will dated 1801, >Brunswick >Co. Va., Will Book 6, Page 306. There is no source citation for where >this >information came from and no copy of the will given. > >Maybe one of our list members who has access to Brunswick County >records >could check that and advise the list. > >Jim Elder > >-----Original Message----- >From: elderbrooks <elderbrooks@msn.com> >To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> >Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 7:09 PM >Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Jeremiah ELDER. > > >>Hi, how long do we have on this puzzle Jim. I think I know that he >was the >>son of William Edmond & Ann Elder of Richmond Co VA. I saw him on >Sistler's >>1850 TN census, I think that was probably him. I have a >correspondent who >>comes from Joesph, but she never searched Jeremiah ELDER, that is all >I >know >>today. >> >>Jim, if you can locate where Jeremiah ELDER died, someone should read >the >>county court records usually they will have the name of the guardian >and >the >>children by name, each child, and every six months to one year you >will >find >>them again, one will be gone as the child has reached the age of >majority. >> >>I am going to print this, I doubt that Wilma knows anymore, she fell >last >>year and broke her hip, I've tried to call but each time no answer. >I know >>that she probably had information in the Sacramento Ca library. I >will put >>this an VIP along with Joseph and his descendants. It takes a long >long >>time, I thought it would be a breeze. >> >>Ann >>-----Original Message----- >>From: jpgolden@juno.com <jpgolden@juno.com> >>To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> >>Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 8:00 PM >>Subject: [Elder-News]: Jeremiah ELDER. >> >> >>>What do we know about Jeremiah ELDER, son of Joseph & Mary MATTHEWS >>>ELDER, b. ca 1771 in Dinwiddie or Brunswick County, VA. Did he die >about >>>1801 in Brunswick County? Are there probate or guardianship >records >>>known to ELDER-NEWS listeners? If he died in 1801 he would have >minor >>>children.? >>> >>>Appreciate any response on this. >>> >>>Thanks, >>> >>> Jim >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
Subject: [Elder-News]: Charles Lawrence Cate
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 21:55:46 -0500
Hi, Charles Lawrence Cate was not mentioned in John Cate's will, nor was Rebecca, it seems he would have named either this grandson or his daughter Rebecca, the other two daughter's are named. Ann
Subject: [Elder-News]: 1920 Census - Hamilton Co., Tennessee
From: Deb Smyre <dsmyre@primenet.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 18:36:34 -0500
Does anyone have information on the following household found in the 1920 Census of Hamilton County, Tennessee? Vol. 33, E.D. 47, Sheet 2, Line 29 -- ELDER, Will P., age 30, birthplace Georgia ELDER, Katielou C., age 20, birthplace Tennessee Son: ELDER, James F., age 3-2/12, birthplace Tennessee Son: ELDER, Harman D., age 11/12, birthplace Tennessee Friend: WADE, Esther, age 18, birthplace Georgia Any connections or comments will be greatly appreciated! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Deb Smyre E-Mail: dsmyre@primenet.com Web Site: http://www.primenet.com/~dsmyre =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: [Elder-News]: Re: William and Jesse Elder - Casey County, KY
From: Renee Bunck <renee@campus.mlc.edu>
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 21:43:45 -0600
Here is the first of the records that I thought might be appropriate for the Elder Research area - This William Elder is the son of Peter Elder who died in 1804 in Surry County, NC. Jesse Elder is the grandson mentioned in Peter's will and assigned to William's charge. It has been suggested that Jesse is William's son - note that Jesse is not mentioned in the list of heirs. William and Mary (Davenport) Elder along with John and Sarah (Elder) Davenport and Jesse Elder first appear in Casey County Tax records in 1807. _____________________________________________________________________________ Casey County Deed Records Book #4, Pages 120-121 This Indenture made and entered into this day of November 1835 Between Jesse S Judd Deputy Sheriff for Hardin Thomas Sheriff of Casey County of the one part and Job Clifton of the other part witnesseth that whereas a writ of Fiene Facie issued from the Clerks Office of the Casey Circuit Court on the 2nd day of May 1834 against the estate of Polly Elder surviving administrator of the goods and Chattel Rights and Credits of William Elder decsd and James Murphy & Rebecca his wife Pendelton Baldock and Betsy his wife Nicholas Shackelford and Nancy his wife William Cabble and Franky his wife Polly Elder & Sally Elder legal heirs and Legal Representatives of William Elder Decsd for the sum of one cent Damages and Sixty Dollars with interest thereon after the rate of five percentum per annum from the first day of August 1828 until paid for Debt and fifteen Dollars 40 1/2 cents for cost in Casey County. Returnable to the July Rules and whereas 2nd writ of Fe Fa. As Jesse S Judd Deputy Sheriff as aforesaid lived on 84 acres of land the estate of the said decsd Heirs by Descent, duly advertised for sale and the 14th day of July 1834. In the court house lane in the town of Liberty the 84 acres was deposed to sale to the highest bidder by virtue of the said writ and Job Clifton bid fifty dollars & fifty Cents for said 84 acres and no person bidding more the said 84 acres of land was publickly Deed & struck off to him the said Job Clifton. Now in confirmation of the title to the said 84 acres of land to the said Job Clifton under the sale as aforesaid made, I Jesse S Judd Deputy for Hardin Thomas Sheriff of Casey County for and in consideration of the sum of Fifty Dollars and fifty Cents in paid have bargained & sold and by these presents doth Grant bargain sell & Convey unto the said Job Clifton all that tract or parcel of land lying and being in Casey County & described and bounded as follows to the Beginning at a Buckeye and Cherry tree thence North 106 poles to two White oaks thence West 126 poles to two beeches & White oak thence South 106 to a poplar thence East 126 poles to the Beginning with est appurtenances to have and to hold the said tract or parcel of land with any of est appurtenances belonging unto the said Job Clifton & his heirs for ever and the said Jesse S Judd doth further covenant to and with the said Job Clifton his heirs and do Warrant and do find the title to the said tract of land & est appurtenances unto the said Job Clifton his heirs & I from and against the claims of the above married heirs of William Elder decsd in & over said tract of land after the fifth day of June 1834 and to the intent of his fiduciary character as Sheriff aforesaid in witness whereof I Jesse S Judd Deputy Sheriff for Hardin Thomas Sheriff of Casey County have hereunto set my hand & seal the day and date above written. ___________________________________________________________________________ My Notes - Legal heirs and Legal Representatives of William Elder Decsd as listed in this document: James Murphy & Rebecca (Elder) Pendelton Baldock and Betsy (Elder) Nicholas Shackelford and Nancy (Elder) William Cabble and Franky (Elder) Polly (Mary Davenport) Elder Sally Elder I'm not sure that I entirely understand the record above, but it seems to be a record of 84 acres of land being sold to Job Clifton for $50.50 at public auction in 1834. I followed this tract of land through tax records with William Elder until 1827. In 1828, Polly is listed instead of William - after that I did not find the land listed under Elder. My guess is the the land was sold in 1834 for non-payment of taxes and yet it looks like in 1835 the estate of William Elder was charged $60 plus interest back to 1828 plus $15 court charges. It would be helpful to know more about the court case.... but the most important part of the document is the listing of heirs. I looks like William Elder and Polly (Davenport) had five daughters - Rebecca, Betsy, Nancy, Franky, and Sally. Maybe we can find a descendant of one of these lines. Interesting to note that this above 84 acre parcel of land was purchased in 1825 (Book 3, page 35) from Nehemiah and Peggy (Margaret Davenport) Clifton for $200. The first Casey County tax records for William indicate that 150 acres of land he owned in 1807 was originally surveyed for Job Clifton. Other land records show that William's original land parcel was adjoined by a parcel of land owned by Isaac Clifton - who received the assignment for this tract of land from Jesse Elder. Job (and I believe Isaac) Clifton show up in earlier tax records back in Surry County, NC. There could be a family connection here, or just people from the same area of NC moving to the same part of KY. Renee Bunck in Fremont, NE renee@campus.mlc.edu
Subject: [Elder-News]: Death Notices
From: Judy Marie Rais <twostep@fuse.net>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:53:26 -0800
I ran across some Elder death notices at the library this morning. I hope they help someone. Elder, Anna (nee Fortmann), beloved wife of Frank Elder, Friday, May 1, l914 at 8:30pm at residence, 2136 Hatmaker St., Hamilton County, Cinti., Ohio, aged 27 years. Funeral Monday, May 4, l914 at 2pm. Friends invited. Elder, Richard - Friday, June 26, l914 at 6:30 am aged 39 years. Remains at the Busse & Borgmann Company's chapel. Good luck and God bless, Judy Rais
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder Misc. Information
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:17:33 -0500
WHO'S WO IN AMERICAN HISTORY, HISTORICAL VOLUME 1607 - 1896 (I do not have the author or compiler, this is a set of books with a lot of information, most libraries have these available.aebp) "ELDER, George, clergyman, coll. pres.; b. Hardin's Creek, Ky., Aug. 11, 1793, studied at Mt. St. Mary's Coll., Md. also St. Mary's Sem, Baltimore. Ordained priest Roman Catholic Ch., 1819, became an asst. at cathedral, Bardstown, Ky; founder, pres. of coll, Bardstown 1830-38; an editor Louisville Catholic Advocate, 1836, wrote satirical columns Letters to Brother Jonathan. Died Sept. 28, 1838." "ELDER, John Adams, artist; b. Fredericksburg, Va., Feb. 3, 1833. Went to N.Y.C, 1850, to Dusseldorg, Germany, 1851; returned to N.Y.C., 1856, to Fredericksburg, 1861; served with Confederate Army during Civil War; worked in Richmond VA., after Civil War; painted portraits, genre, landscape, and battle paintings, Died Fredericksburg, Feb. 24, 1859." Ann elderbrooks@msn.com
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder Misc Information
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:27:33 -0500
WHO'S WHO IN AMERICAN HISTORY, HISTORICAL VOLUME 1607 - 1896 p. # is faded 255?aebp "ELDER, William, journalist; b. Somerset, Pa., July 23, 1806; s. William GORE and Magdalen (ARMSTRONG) E.; attended Jefferson Med. Coll., Phila; m. Sara Maclean, Dec 24, 1833. Practiced medicine Juniata County, Pa., 1833, settled in Pitts. 1838 recorder of deed (Whig) Allegheny Co., Pa., 1839; admittted to Pa. bar 1842; practiced in Pitts., 1842-45; moved to Phila. wrote, lectured; editor Liberty Herald, 1847; contbd. to The Republic, 1848, Nat. Era. other Liberty party jours: statisician U. S. Treasury Dept., 1861-66, clk. Comptroller's Office, 1873-85. Author: Periscopics 1854; Questions fo the Day: Economic and Social 1871. Died Phila. Apr 5, 1885." Ann elderbrooks@msn.com
Subject: [Elder-News]: Misc Elder Information
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:39:20 -0500
WHO'S WHO IN AMERICAN HISTORY, HISTORICAL VOLUME 1607-1896 (do not have compiled but any large library will have these books)aebp "ELDER, John Adams, artist; b. Fredericksburg, Va., Feb 3, 1833. Went to N.Y.C., 1850 to Dusseldorg, Germany, 1851; returned to N.Y.C., 1856 to Fredericksburg, 1861; served with Confederate Army during Civil War; worked in Richmond, Va. after Civle War; painted portraits, genre landscape and battle paintings. Died Fredericksburg, Feb. 24, 1895." Ann elderbrooks@msn.com
Subject: [Elder-News]: William Elder of William Gore & Magdalen (Armstrong) ELDER
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:46:59 -0500
I have a one page article on William ELDER, small print, to long to sent e-mail, if anyone wants it or a copy you are welcome to it. Please send me a Label or Addressed envelope, I loath doing envelopes --e-mail has ruined me. Let me know & I will send you my address. Ann
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder, William Henry
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:56:55 -0500
William Henry Elder, Mar 22, 1819-Oct 31, 1804, Roman Catholic prelate. This is also one page, small print (Dictionary of American Biographies Vol III this was sent to me & the source is not to clear)abep I have seen many of you with these ancestors, if anyone wants a copy of this, please send me a label or addressed envelope as I said I don't do very many envelopes. Let me know & will send you my address. I have a lot of "Misc Info." looking for my Elder's I've wander through many of these families. Ann elderbrooks@msn.com
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder's
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:09:08 -0500
Apparently when I received this information a lot more is still available. The index reads WHO'S WHO IN AMERICA 1607-1895. ELDER, Albert Lawrence p. 7 ELDER, Alfonso...................p.6 ELDER, Bowman.................p.3 ELDER, Cyrus......................p.1 ELDER, Frank Ray..............p. 4 ELDER, George..................p. H(?) ELDER, John Adams..........p. H(?) ELDER, Joseph Freeman..p.1 ELDER, Omar Franklin, Jr. p.7 ELDER, Orr Jay...................p.3 ELDER, Paul........................p.2 ELDER, Robert Henry.........p.5 ELDER, Samuel James......p.1 ELDER, Susan Blanchard..p. 4 ELDER, Walter (James).....p. 7 ELDER, William...................p.H(?) ELDER, William Henry........p.1 ELDER, William Line..........p.1 O.K. we are through....Ann
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Fw: Elder family
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 00:49:17 -0500
Hi LaNelle, I am not at all sure about your family, I know a lady who now lives in Georgia, but did live here, her husband was the ELDER, but she was doing the research and the ancestor she was stuck on was a Henry ELDER who was born in AL. His father was "killed by indians" or something one of the older relatives had told her but it seems the father might have died or was killed. I have her letter somewhere in this pile of papers which I am trying to organize. The lady's name is Sylvia Elder and I will try and find that letter. It would help her also. Your Landrum family, I have not spent much time on my grandmother's line but they are all in TN for a couple of hundred years. I found their was a Landrum family which is a direct line for her and of course me and mine. I want to say he married a Lydia and his name was Tom, I will have to look that up also. I printed your post so I could check tomorrow. You will find something, this a great News Letter. Ann elderbrooks@msn.com -----Original Message----- From: LaNelle Landrum <llandrum@zoomnet.net> To: elder newsletter <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Sunday, January 25, 1998 12:25 AM Subject: [Elder-News]: Fw: Elder family >Is there anyone that is kin to this family? I'm beginning to feel like they >hatched!! >> >> >> Descendants of Thomas ELDER >> >> 1 Thomas ELDER b: 1813 in Ga. >> . +Sarah UNKNOWN b: 1821 in AL >> ........ 2 William R. ELDER b: 1842 in AL >> ........ 2 Samuel S. ELDER b: 1845 in Ala. >> ........ 2 Henry T. ELDER b: 1849 in Ala. >> ........ 2 Sarah F. ELDER b: 1851 in Ala. >> ........ 2 Nancy E. ELDER b: 1853 in Ala. >> ........ 2 Cora ELDER b: 1855 in Ala. >> ........ 2 Margaret/Mary Celeste ELDER b: 1856 in AL >> ............ +Fluellen MCDONALD b: 1852 in (Winston) MS >> >> Also, this one marriage that is probably kin to the family of Thomas but I >> don't know who Mary Enna's parent were. She married into a family of >> McDonalds >> and Cheathams. >> >> Descendants of Mary Enna ELDER >> >> 1 Mary Enna ELDER >> . +William Richard CHEATHAM b: 1833 in (Noxabee/Kemper) MS >> m 3 Dec 1863, Noxubee, MS >> -- >> LaNelle Landrum researching: Landrum, Palmer, Loftin/Lofton, Herring, >> McDonald, Plunk, Rainey, Elder, Turner, Dunn, Rouse, Pace, Cheatham, >> Wheatley, >> Jarman, Larue, Carrigan, Canaday, Lovette, Triplett, Berry, Pennel, Crocker, >> Chappell, Riggs, Billings, Finn, Peyatt/Payett, Mannering/Mane >> ring, Woodruff >> llandrum@zoomnet.net >> 322 N. Mich. Ave. >> Wellston, Oh 45692-1038 > >-- > > >
Subject: [Elder-News]: Fw: Elder family
From: llandrum@zoomnet.net (LaNelle Landrum)
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 98 08:25:04 GMT
Is there anyone that is kin to this family? I'm beginning to feel like they hatched!! > > > Descendants of Thomas ELDER > > 1 Thomas ELDER b: 1813 in Ga. > . +Sarah UNKNOWN b: 1821 in AL > ........ 2 William R. ELDER b: 1842 in AL > ........ 2 Samuel S. ELDER b: 1845 in Ala. > ........ 2 Henry T. ELDER b: 1849 in Ala. > ........ 2 Sarah F. ELDER b: 1851 in Ala. > ........ 2 Nancy E. ELDER b: 1853 in Ala. > ........ 2 Cora ELDER b: 1855 in Ala. > ........ 2 Margaret/Mary Celeste ELDER b: 1856 in AL > ............ +Fluellen MCDONALD b: 1852 in (Winston) MS > > Also, this one marriage that is probably kin to the family of Thomas but I > don't know who Mary Enna's parent were. She married into a family of > McDonalds > and Cheathams. > > Descendants of Mary Enna ELDER > > 1 Mary Enna ELDER > . +William Richard CHEATHAM b: 1833 in (Noxabee/Kemper) MS > m 3 Dec 1863, Noxubee, MS > -- > LaNelle Landrum researching: Landrum, Palmer, Loftin/Lofton, Herring, > McDonald, Plunk, Rainey, Elder, Turner, Dunn, Rouse, Pace, Cheatham, > Wheatley, > Jarman, Larue, Carrigan, Canaday, Lovette, Triplett, Berry, Pennel, Crocker, > Chappell, Riggs, Billings, Finn, Peyatt/Payett, Mannering/Mane > ring, Woodruff > llandrum@zoomnet.net > 322 N. Mich. Ave. > Wellston, Oh 45692-1038 --
Subject: [Elder-News]: Jeremiah!
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:51:52 -0500
Here's one for the books! 1850 U.S. Census - Cobb County, GA, page 171 Jeremiah Elder 35 M Carpenter b. GA Elmira J. 18 F James 14 M Abner 13 M Penelope 10 F 1860 U.S. Census - Liberty County, GA, page 777 Jeremiah Elder 45 M Planter b. GA Jane E. 28 F (Jeremiah Elder married Jane Lee in Chatham County, GA, 28 Oct 1847) 1870 U.S.. Census - Liberty County, GA, page 185 Jeremiah Elder 55 M Blacksmith b. GA Jane 38 F James 9 M Abner 7 M Cobb County is on the Northwest side of Atlanta and Liberty County is just Southwest of Savannah, a good 200 miles apart. Is this the same Jeremiah? Did he lose his wife in Cobb County and traveled to Savannah (Chatham County) to find another exactly the same age and named the first two children the same name as his former family in Atlanta? Anyone have data on this family? What about some discussion? Thanks, Jim
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Fr. George Elder
From: LEW1991@aol.com
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 16:28:36 EST
In a message dated 98-01-24 22:46:44 EST, you write: << WHO'S WO IN AMERICAN HISTORY, HISTORICAL VOLUME 1607 - 1896 (I do not have the author or compiler, this is a set of books with a lot of information, most libraries have these available.aebp) "ELDER, George, clergyman, coll. pres.; b. Hardin's Creek, Ky., Aug. 11, 1793, studied at Mt. St. Mary's Coll., Md. also St. Mary's Sem, Baltimore. Ordained priest Roman Catholic Ch., 1819, became an asst. at cathedral, Bardstown, Ky; founder, pres. of coll, Bardstown 1830-38; an editor Louisville Catholic Advocate, 1836, wrote satirical columns Letters to Brother Jonathan. Died Sept. 28, 1838." >> For those Elder descendents interested in Fr. George Elder, you may want to contact Mount Saint Mary's College Archives. The archivist is Barbara Miles. She is a busy woman but may be able to respond to questions pertaining to those Elders with Mount connections. Her address is: Barbara Miles, Archivist, Mount Saint Mary's College & Seminary, 16300 Old Emmitsburg Road, Emmitsburg, MD 21727 Linda Winkler
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Fr. George Elder
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 20:14:58 -0500
Thanks for helping, I've been searching for my own Elder line and have acquired men other "bits n pieces".. Ann -----Original Message----- From: LEW1991@aol.com <LEW1991@aol.com> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Sunday, January 25, 1998 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Fr. George Elder >In a message dated 98-01-24 22:46:44 EST, you write: > ><< WHO'S WO IN AMERICAN HISTORY, HISTORICAL VOLUME 1607 - 1896 > (I do not have the author or compiler, this is a set of books with a lot of > information, most libraries have these available.aebp) > > "ELDER, George, clergyman, coll. pres.; b. Hardin's Creek, Ky., Aug. 11, > 1793, studied at Mt. St. Mary's Coll., Md. also St. Mary's Sem, Baltimore. > Ordained priest Roman Catholic Ch., 1819, became an asst. at cathedral, > Bardstown, Ky; founder, pres. of coll, Bardstown 1830-38; an editor > Louisville Catholic Advocate, 1836, wrote satirical columns Letters to > Brother Jonathan. Died Sept. 28, 1838." > >> >For those Elder descendents interested in Fr. George Elder, you may want to >contact Mount Saint Mary's College Archives. The archivist is Barbara Miles. >She is a busy woman but may be able to respond to questions pertaining to >those Elders with Mount connections. Her address is: Barbara Miles, >Archivist, Mount Saint Mary's College & Seminary, 16300 Old Emmitsburg Road, >Emmitsburg, MD 21727 > >Linda Winkler >
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Jeremiah!
From: llandrum@zoomnet.net (LaNelle Landrum)
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 98 07:52:07 GMT
Jim, Here's a possible solution: Jeremiah Elder might have m Elmira J(ane?) as a second wife. The children James, Abner, Penelope could be by a first marriage. In 1870 James and Abner would be old enough to have children of the ages on the census. Maybe the father died and the children lived with the grandfather (Jeremiah). -- LaNelle -----------------------------Reply Separator--------------------------------- Jim, This is a good one, perhaps someone in the household -----Original Message----- From: jpgolden@juno.com <jpgolden@juno.com> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Sunday, January 25, 1998 1:02 PM Subject: [Elder-News]: Jeremiah! >Here's one for the books! > >1850 U.S. Census - Cobb County, GA, page 171 >Jeremiah Elder 35 M Carpenter b. GA >Elmira J. 18 F >James 14 M >Abner 13 M >Penelope 10 F > >1860 U.S. Census - Liberty County, GA, page 777 >Jeremiah Elder 45 M Planter b. GA >Jane E. 28 F >(Jeremiah Elder married Jane Lee in Chatham County, GA, 28 Oct 1847) > >1870 U.S.. Census - Liberty County, GA, page 185 >Jeremiah Elder 55 M Blacksmith b. GA >Jane 38 F >James 9 M >Abner 7 M > >Cobb County is on the Northwest side of Atlanta and Liberty County is >just Southwest of Savannah, a good 200 miles apart. Is this the same >Jeremiah? Did he lose his wife in Cobb County and traveled to Savannah >(Chatham County) to find another exactly the same age and named the first >two children the same name as his former family in Atlanta? > >Anyone have data on this family? What about some discussion? > >Thanks, > Jim >
Subject: [Elder-News]: Some Early Georgia Marriages!
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:12:24 -0500
Charles C. ELDER Mildred WILLIS 23 Dec 1845 Monroe D. L. ELDER T. J. WILLIAMS (Mrs) 10 Nov 1865 Walton David ELDER Elizabeth ALLEN 23 Apr 1813 Clarke David ELDER Isabela MITCHELL 25 Jan 1820 Oglethorpe David ELDER Elizabeth OSBURN 21 Dec 1824 Clarke David P. ELDER Nancy M. HEAD 07 Sep 1848 Fayette Doctor L. ELDER Cynthia Jane WILLIAMS 22 Dec 1853 Walton Edmond ELDER Nancy TIGNER 23 Sep 1810 Clarke Edmond ELDER Beatrice F. HUGHES 02 Oct 1866 Walton George B. ELDER Apply COOPER 29 Dec 1838 Talbot George W. ELDER M. A. GILBERT 05 Dec 1867 Floyd Hartwell ELDER Parmelia TIGNER 21 Dec 1817 Clarke Hartwell ELDER Mary DIAMOND 06 May 1843 Muscogee Howell ELDER Rebecca P. HERRING 16 Oct 1817 Clarke Howell ELDER Mary Ann JENNINGS 10 Jun 1845 Troup Jacob ELDERS Malinda BOX 08 Aug 1825 Hall James ELDER Louisa WOODARD 09 Dec 1830 Morgan James ELDER Mary S. YARBROUGH 23 Nov 1856 Butts James B. ELDER Nancy B. WILSON 02 Jan 1849 Fayette Jeremiah ELDER Elvirah HERRING 25 Nov 1822 Clarke Jeremiah ELDER Nancy M. DURRENCE 29 Apr 1841 Tattnall John ELDER Betsey WATERS 31 Mar 1816 Oglethorpe John ELDER Susan BARNETT 25 Nov 1823 Greene John G. ELDER Mary E. DUMBLE 04 Dec 1867 Butts Joseph ELDER Sarah AUSBORN 13 Feb 1823 Clarke Joseph ELDER Salley JACKS 16 Apr 1823 Clarke Joseph ELDER Nancy BLAKELY 24 Aug 1825 Clarke Joshua ELDER Ann GRAY 21 Oct 1812 Clarke Joshua ELDER Elizabeth CARROLL 03 Mar 1842 Fayette Littleberry ELDER Penelope WATERS 03 Dec 1812 Madison Mitchell ELDER Amy WILEY 03 Aug 1834 Harris Samuel E. ELDER Mary A. BATES 18 Dec 1841 Fayette Sterling ELDER Polly HERRING 07 May 1812 Clarke Thomas ELDER Sarah PEARSON 20 Dec 1860 Cass Thomas W. ELDER Vianna SLATON 24 May 1848 Gilmer William ELDER Cynthia SMITH 20 Apr 1840 Harris William ELDER Mary E. HARALSON 30 Nov 1858 Newton William A. ELDER Cynthia A. BARLOW 21 Oct 1841 Butts William A. ELDER, Jr.Virginia SAUNDERS 02 Apr 1869 Butts William N. ELDER Catherine JACKSON 23 Jun 1806 Greene William M. ELDER Lethina F. REESE 02 Jan 1842 Monroe William W. ELDER Julia NEAL 03 Jun 1849 Butts Wm ELDER Cynthia SMITH 20 Apr 1840 Harris Wytch ELDER Mary BURT 12 Oct 1823 Clarke
Subject: [Elder-News]: More Early Georgia Marriages!
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:15:40 -0500
John SALTER Ann ELDERS, Mrs. 13 Sep 1823 Liberty Yancy M. SATTERWHITE Eleanor E. ELDER 30 May 1843 Harris William SMITH Elizabeth ELDER 24 Dec 1813 Oglethorpe Jeremiah A. NIX Elizabeth C. ELDER 04 Dec 1841 Harris Thomas H. HALEY Laura M. ELDER 08 May 1865 Butts Lumpkin GRESHAM Lydia Ann ELDER 01 Aug 1844 Monroe Wm. J. RUSSELL Martha A. ELDER 12 Oct 1848 Fayette Gadiel FAMBRO Nancy ELDER 02 Feb 1809 Clarke William I. MANNEN Nancy Ann ELDER 13 Sep 1848 Harris Joel BOOTH Patsy ELDER 20 Jan 1822 Elbert James COLEMAN Polley ELDER 31 Mar 1824 Elbert Edward MAXEY Polly ELDER 28 May 1815 Clarke Richard UPSHAW Rebecca ELDER 27 Feb 1820 Elbert Lewis L. PARR Rutha ELDER 23 Sep 1845 Monroe Seaborn GARRETT Sarah ELDER 09 May 1822 Clarke Chas. CLEMENTS Sarah Ann ELDER 20 Dec 1832 Fayette John O'BRYAN Sarah Ann ELDER 16 Jan 1838 Harris William GRESHAM Sarah Ann ELDER 13 Aug 1849 Butts James HARDWICK Violet ELDER 10 May 1806 Greene
Subject: [Elder-News]: Littleberry ELDER
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:43:55 -0500
Littleberry ELDER, b. ca. 1788 in Virginia m. Penelope WATERS, 3 Dec 1812, Madison County, Georgia living in Harris County, Georgia in 1830 Census and 1840 Census. Lose him in the 1850 Census but he is in Muscogee County, Georgia in 1860 with wife Bannora (_____), a 60 year old b. Georgia (I presume to be a second wife as she would only be 12 years old in 1812). Possible Children: (1) - Mitchell ELDER m. Amy WILEY 3 Aug. 1834, Harris County, GA; (2) - William ELDER m. Cynthia SMITH 20 Apr. 1840, Harris County, GA. William is counted in the 1840 Census in Harris County; (3) - Hartwell ELDER m. Mary DIAMOND 6 May 1843 in Muscogee County, GA, Hartwell b. ca. 1825/27 in GA: (4) John ELDER living next door to Littleberry in Muscogee County, 1860 Census with wife Jane (______) and dau. Margaret, age 1. It's possible that the family was in Mississippi in 1850 as Margaret is recorded as being born in Mississippi. (5) - Joseph ELDER b. ca 1838 in GA, in Muscogee County 1860 Census with wife Carmella (age 24) & dau. Julia (age 2). Also in household is one John BONNER, age 21, all born in GA. (6) - Nancy Ann ELDER m. William I. Mannen 13 Sep 1848 in Harris County, GA. There is a W. M. G. ELDER in Harris County in 1840 (possibly Mitchell as he is not listed otherwise). HELP! Jim
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Littleberry ELDER
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:41:35 -0500
Hi, No one is looking for the Lanier woman in GA who married the three Elder's? How about Smith ELDER, I have a correspondent and he is her ancestor, he relates to Hammond ELDER and also to Amadine/Amodine Hammond to married an Elder. Ann -----Original Message----- From: jpgolden@juno.com <jpgolden@juno.com> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 7:03 PM Subject: [Elder-News]: Littleberry ELDER >Littleberry ELDER, b. ca. 1788 in Virginia >m. Penelope WATERS, 3 Dec 1812, Madison County, Georgia >living in Harris County, Georgia in 1830 Census and 1840 Census. >Lose him in the 1850 Census but he is in Muscogee County, Georgia in 1860 >with wife Bannora (_____), a 60 year old b. Georgia (I presume to be a >second wife as she would only be 12 years old in 1812). Possible >Children: (1) - Mitchell ELDER m. Amy WILEY >3 Aug. 1834, Harris County, GA; (2) - William ELDER m. Cynthia SMITH 20 >Apr. 1840, Harris County, GA. William is counted in the 1840 Census in >Harris County; (3) - Hartwell ELDER m. Mary DIAMOND 6 May 1843 in >Muscogee County, GA, Hartwell b. ca. 1825/27 in GA: (4) John ELDER >living next door to Littleberry in Muscogee County, 1860 Census with wife >Jane (______) and dau. Margaret, age 1. It's possible that the family >was in Mississippi in 1850 as Margaret is recorded as being born in >Mississippi. (5) - Joseph ELDER b. ca 1838 in GA, in Muscogee County >1860 Census with wife Carmella (age 24) & dau. Julia (age 2). Also in >household is one John BONNER, age 21, all born in GA. (6) - Nancy Ann >ELDER m. William I. Mannen 13 Sep 1848 in Harris County, GA. > >There is a W. M. G. ELDER in Harris County in 1840 (possibly Mitchell as >he is not listed otherwise). > >HELP! > >Jim
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Littleberry ELDER
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:08:45 -0500
On Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:41:35 -0500 "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com> writes: >Hi, > >No one is looking for the Lanier woman in GA who married the three Elder's? >How about Smith ELDER, I have a correspondent and he is her ancestor, he >relates to Hammond ELDER and also to Amadine/Amodine Hammond to married an >Elder. Ann Hammond ELDER b. ca 1803/5 in SC arr'd in Gilmer Co between 1850/60. Lee has some of the Gilmer Co folk in his book but he doesn't have them all. I don't find a Smith ELDER there through 1870. He could be later. There was a Smith ELDER, son of Casper & Margaret CUMMINGS ELDER. Pg 257 of Genealogy of the ELDER Clan. >-----Original Message----- >From: jpgolden@juno.com <jpgolden@juno.com> >To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> >Date: Tuesday, January 27, 1998 7:03 PM >Subject: [Elder-News]: Littleberry ELDER > > >>Littleberry ELDER, b. ca. 1788 in Virginia >>m. Penelope WATERS, 3 Dec 1812, Madison County, Georgia >>living in Harris County, Georgia in 1830 Census and 1840 Census. >>Lose him in the 1850 Census but he is in Muscogee County, Georgia in >1860 >>with wife Bannora (_____), a 60 year old b. Georgia (I presume to be >a >>second wife as she would only be 12 years old in 1812). Possible >>Children: (1) - Mitchell ELDER m. Amy WILEY >>3 Aug. 1834, Harris County, GA; (2) - William ELDER m. Cynthia SMITH >20 >>Apr. 1840, Harris County, GA. William is counted in the 1840 Census >in >>Harris County; (3) - Hartwell ELDER m. Mary DIAMOND 6 May 1843 in >>Muscogee County, GA, Hartwell b. ca. 1825/27 in GA: (4) John ELDER >>living next door to Littleberry in Muscogee County, 1860 Census with >wife >>Jane (______) and dau. Margaret, age 1. It's possible that the >family >>was in Mississippi in 1850 as Margaret is recorded as being born in >>Mississippi. (5) - Joseph ELDER b. ca 1838 in GA, in Muscogee County >>1860 Census with wife Carmella (age 24) & dau. Julia (age 2). Also >in >>household is one John BONNER, age 21, all born in GA. (6) - Nancy >Ann >>ELDER m. William I. Mannen 13 Sep 1848 in Harris County, GA. >> >>There is a W. M. G. ELDER in Harris County in 1840 (possibly Mitchell >as >>he is not listed otherwise). >> >>HELP! >> >>Jim
Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER, Joseph (1749-1836)
From: Kayfleming <Kayfleming@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:46:40 EST
I know there are ELDER researchers out there working on this Joseph ELDER who
married Elizabeth STORAK (Stoark) 1785 in WVa. This Joseph is supposed to
have been born in Penn., locality unknown. There is lot of discussion about
the Penn. ELDERS but I don't see any mention of this person. Is the county
and parents of this Joseph ELDER known?
He had children John, James, Rosannah, Elizabeth, Susanna, Andrew, Adam,
Mary, Benjamin, Margaret, Nancy, and Rachel. Family moved on to Va., Tn., and
lastly Rush county, Indiana where Joseph died in 1836 and Elizabeth in 1845.
Input appreciated on this couple.
Kay
Subject: [Elder-News]: Indiana Elders
From: Schnellco <Schnellco@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:38:39 EST
Shirley, your inquiry about Indiana Elders is interesting. Although I have no info on the specific individuals you named, there are several parallels with our ancestry. Our SAMUEL ELDER was born in PA about 1790. He appears in Seneca County OH in 1830 and 1840, then Whitley County (adjacent to Kosciusko) IN in 1860 and 1870. His will was written in April, 1880 and probated in July, 1881. Heirs are his children William C. Elder, Jane Hewett, Sarah Noble, and Cynthia Elder; and his granddaughter, Adis Keirn, daughter of his deceased daughter Amanda Goodrich. There is no mention of Samuel's wife, ANNA CAMERON ELDER. She probably predeceased Samuel, but she was considerably younger than him... about 17 years younger according to census records. I have been unable to come up with anything on the ancestry of Samuel or his wife. Do you have anything that would shed light on this family?
Subject: [Elder-News]: Hammond Elder
From: Rlaneb1 <Rlaneb1@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:58:18 EST
Did you have information that Hammond Elder of SC had moved to Buncombe Co., NC sometime around the 1820s? R.Bangsund rlaneb1@aol.com
Subject: [Elder-News]: Canadian Elders
From: Lacedonde <Lacedonde@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 06:44:19 EST
Anybody have ties in Canada? My Great Grandmother was Elizabeth Elder, daughter of Mathew and Elizabeth Connolly, born in Canada about 1855. Both parents had been born in Ireland. Mathew was born about 1810, and Elizabeth about 1820.
Subject: RE: [Elder-News]: Indiana Elders
From: "Light, Kim" <LightkimE@exchange.uams.edu>
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:04:54 -0600
I have not seen the first post by Shirley, however I have three Samuel Elders in my database and I am connected with the Elder line that was in Ohio beginning in the mid-1800's and my line later moved to Jay Co, IN early in the 1900's. The three Samuel Elders of my Line are: Samuel Elder (b. 1734) PA - son of Robert who was son of Robert (b. 1679, Scotland) & Eleanor (Gillespie) he was married to Mary Robinson Samuel Elder (b. 27 Feb 1772, PA) son of John Elder (b. 1706 Scotland) and Mary (Simpson) John was son of Robert and Eleanor above mentioned. Samuel Elder (b. 8 Nov 1814, Bedford Co., PA) son of John Elder, Sr. son of George Elder (b. 1740 PA) ***this is my line of ancestry If this provides any help let me know and we can exchange more information. The line of the first two Samuel Elders have been fairly well described and should be available for several people on the elder news list Regards, Kim Light > -----Original Message----- > From: Schnellco [SMTP:Schnellco@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 6:39 PM > To: hunsaker@waisman.wisc.edu > Cc: elder-news@intrepid.net > Subject: [Elder-News]: Indiana Elders > > Shirley, your inquiry about Indiana Elders is interesting. Although I > have no > info on the specific individuals you named, there are several > parallels with > our ancestry. Our SAMUEL ELDER was born in PA about 1790. He appears > in > Seneca County OH in 1830 and 1840, then Whitley County (adjacent to > Kosciusko) > IN in 1860 and 1870. His will was written in April, 1880 and probated > in > July, 1881. Heirs are his children William C. Elder, Jane Hewett, > Sarah > Noble, and Cynthia Elder; and his granddaughter, Adis Keirn, daughter > of his > deceased daughter Amanda Goodrich. There is no mention of Samuel's > wife, ANNA > CAMERON ELDER. She probably predeceased Samuel, but she was > considerably > younger than him... about 17 years younger according to census > records. I > have been unable to come up with anything on the ancestry of Samuel or > his > wife. Do you have anything that would shed light on this family?
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Hammond Elder
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:07:12 -0500
On Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:58:18 EST Rlaneb1 <Rlaneb1@aol.com> writes: >Did you have information that Hammond Elder of SC had moved to >Buncombe >Co., NC sometime around the 1820s? > >R.Bangsund rlaneb1@aol.com > According to Genealogy of the ELDER Clan, Hammond ELDER Sr. died in Spartanburg County, SC in 1822 Nothing on Hammond Jr. abt NC. I have him arriving in Gilmer County, GA before 1860 as he appears there in the 1860 Census. His dau, Parthenia, was living there in 1850 with the William BANKS family. Also, Thomas ELDER, age 27; Benjamin ELDER, age 32; and Susan ELDER, a Wid. age 45, with 5 offsprings. GoEC doesn't list Thomas, Benjamin or Susan, or connection to the BANKS, but there must have been some relationship. I haven't done much in Gilmer County yet, it being in the extreme north portion of the State records are not plentiful in the libraries here. Sorry, Jim
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Indiana Elders
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:51:21 -0500
Hi All, Kim's line is real interesting, I was never sure of the Elder's found in IN., and at the moment they are still semi-buried, it is getting better. Please note Kim I will get around to it but not this week. Ann -----Original Message----- From: Light, Kim <LightkimE@exchange.uams.edu> To: 'elder-news@intrepid.net' <elder-news@intrepid.net>; hunsaker@waisman.wisc.edu <hunsaker@waisman.wisc.edu>; 'Schnellco@aol.com' <Schnellco@aol.com> Date: Thursday, January 29, 1998 9:15 AM Subject: RE: [Elder-News]: Indiana Elders >I have not seen the first post by Shirley, however I have three Samuel >Elders in my database and I am connected with the Elder line that was in >Ohio beginning in the mid-1800's and my line later moved to Jay Co, IN >early in the 1900's. > >The three Samuel Elders of my Line are: > >Samuel Elder (b. 1734) PA - son of Robert who was son of Robert (b. >1679, Scotland) & Eleanor (Gillespie) he was married to Mary Robinson > >Samuel Elder (b. 27 Feb 1772, PA) son of John Elder (b. 1706 Scotland) >and Mary (Simpson) John was son of Robert and Eleanor above mentioned. > >Samuel Elder (b. 8 Nov 1814, Bedford Co., PA) son of John Elder, Sr. son >of George Elder (b. 1740 PA) ***this is my line of ancestry > >If this provides any help let me know and we can exchange more >information. The line of the first two Samuel Elders have been fairly >well described and should be available for several people on the elder >news list > >Regards, > >Kim Light > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Schnellco [SMTP:Schnellco@aol.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 1998 6:39 PM >> To: hunsaker@waisman.wisc.edu >> Cc: elder-news@intrepid.net >> Subject: [Elder-News]: Indiana Elders >> >> Shirley, your inquiry about Indiana Elders is interesting. Although I >> have no >> info on the specific individuals you named, there are several >> parallels with >> our ancestry. Our SAMUEL ELDER was born in PA about 1790. He appears >> in >> Seneca County OH in 1830 and 1840, then Whitley County (adjacent to >> Kosciusko) >> IN in 1860 and 1870. His will was written in April, 1880 and probated >> in >> July, 1881. Heirs are his children William C. Elder, Jane Hewett, >> Sarah >> Noble, and Cynthia Elder; and his granddaughter, Adis Keirn, daughter >> of his >> deceased daughter Amanda Goodrich. There is no mention of Samuel's >> wife, ANNA >> CAMERON ELDER. She probably predeceased Samuel, but she was >> considerably >> younger than him... about 17 years younger according to census >> records. I >> have been unable to come up with anything on the ancestry of Samuel or >> his >> wife. Do you have anything that would shed light on this family? >
Subject: [Elder-News]: Greene County, Georgia Tax Digest!
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:45:08 -0500
Greene County, Georgia - Tax digest 1793 William ELDER Capt. Armour's Dist 1793 William ELDER - for Turner HUNT Capt. Armour's Dist 1796 William ELDER Capt. Speer's Dist 1799 Joshua ELDER 1799 Lydia ELDER 1801 Joshua ELDER Capt. Welborn's Dist 1802 Joshua ELDER Capt. Welborn's Dist 1807 Robt. ELDER Capt. Rea's Dist All I could find through 1810 Jim