From: "Lee M. Elder" <elder@wcc.net>
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 23:10:44 -0800
Hi Jim: Newman Elder was the first son of Thomas Elder and Mary "Sara" Blackstone and were married by Rev. Thomas Lundie on 9-1-1785, in Bruswick Co., VA. Thomas Elder was the son of William Elder and Ann. Lee
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: ELDER - MATHEWS - BIGGS
From: Rlaneb1 <Rlaneb1@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:04:35 EST
Hello. For those researching Dinwiddie, does anyone know who the parents of William Elder born 1766 in Dinwiddie co. might be?Thanks. R.Bangsund rlaneb1@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: ELDER - MATHEWS - BIGGS
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:54:30 -0500
On Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:04:35 EST Rlaneb1 <Rlaneb1@aol.com> writes: >Hello. For those researching Dinwiddie, does anyone know who the >parents of >William Elder born 1766 in Dinwiddie co. might be?Thanks. >R.Bangsund rlaneb1@aol.com > William (b. 1766) is the son of William ELDER (b. 1740)& his wife Lydia. William (b. 1740) is the son of William ELDER (b. 1717) & his wife Mary. William (b. 1717) is the son of William ELDER (b. 1688) & his wife Ann of Richmond County, VA. Regards, Jim
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: More on the MATTHEWS!
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:18:38 -0500
Hi Jim & All,
I mentioned I had a copy of this strange little book: "History of The Elder
Family" Edited by Mrs. Hershel Smith and Mrs. Philip ELDER, May, 1949. (Mary
Brosveen of Luck, WI also an Elder from my line and genealogist, she figured
she went everywhere looking for ours and found everyone but our's, why not.)
But she stated the book was not a genealogy book, which is obvious. I
really thought of just getting rid of the copy as it in on copy paper. If
someone gets it who can seperate what they need and prove it it might be of
some help.
First thing we have is: "John E. ELDER, II was born 1735. He married Mary
Matthews, daughter of Ephram MATTHEWS, of Brunswick County, VA." We then
have a small history lesson on George brother of Mary, etc. This centers
around David ELDER son of "John Ephraim ELDER and Mary MATTHEWS ELDER."
It is poorly written which is only my opinion, it does not hold water for
me, I would rather start from scratch than worry with this. This might have
have one thing someone could use, but please do not use it for genealogy
without finding your own sources. Thomas P. ELDER, fourth son of David ELDER
b. Jan 24, 1799, mar. Polly CAIN of GA. Dec 21 1817 had nine children etc
but the children are named if correct: Martha, John Lewis; James H. ; Dock;
Susan; Talitha (Puss); Almetta, Mary ("Sugh"), and Mahlon Elder. Martha
ELDER mar. John OSBORN etc. The LANIER men are mentioned in here. I made
copies on front and back, I really am not comfortable with this information
but if any of you want this, it is small well it would fit in a regular size
envelope that is comfortably large, I will send you this all I ask is please
send me a label with your address or large addressed envelope...I cannot
stand to address more than one envelope & that is infrequently. You can
write on your private e-mail for my address. I wish I could offer you
something more firm. I know that somewhere and it is coming along I have
some more information and good information. I have a correspondent whom I
intend to call this weekend and see what she can help us with on Joseph
ELDER and she has proof from Joseph to her. Yes she is from William & Ann
EELDER & Peter ELDER. It is no problem, just a caution and actually I will
be pleased to pass it on. They do have many of the similiar names found in
most of our ELDER's. Ann
-----Original Message-----
From: James P. Golden <jpgolden@juno.com>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Monday, January 05, 1998 6:07 PM
Subject: [Elder-News]: More on the MATTHEWS!
>
>Ephraim ELDER, younger brother of Joseph ELDER (who married Mary
>MATTHEWS) married in Campbell County, VA, 9 Jul 1787 to Martha "Patsy"
>MATTHEWS.
>
>Joseph & Mary went to Campbell County around 1790; his younger children
>married there and his will was recorded and probated there in 1800.
>
>Is Martha "Patsy" MATTHEWS a niece to Mary MATTHEWS ELDER?
>Did they moved to the west leaving Dinwiddie & Brunswick property to the
>older children?
>
>Has anyone pursued this?
>
>Jim
>
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Internet Message
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 22:24:35 -0500
Starr, I especially enjoyed your post, I am also interested in the Lee's, my husbands LEE family is Thomas LEE who settled in Hawkins Co., TN. and seems to be a direct line documentation which I tend to be although it has turned out to be a full time operation on very little time. I have a LEE line, from NJ, one David LEE who left NJ and family apparently traveled with the MOUNT family, David was in VA and probably died in VA. the MOUNT's went into NC then TN and other areas. I am obviously very much an ELDER. Ann -----Original Message----- From: Starr <starr81@ix.netcom.com> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Wednesday, January 07, 1998 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Internet Message >My sincere apologies to the ELDER group; I forgot to check the address when >I sent this "privately" to Launa -- I'm so sorry about the attached file; I >truly hope it didn't cause anyone undo harm. I'll watch that in the future. > Linda > > > > >Linda Sparks Starr >starr81@ix.netcom.com >http://pw1.netcom.com/~starr81/index.htm >
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: elder cambria county
From: "Gary E. Myer" <gmyer@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us>
Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 21:26:58 -0500
john wrote: > I NEED HELP I AM LOOKING FOR GEORGE ELDER BORN IN CAMBRIA CO. I > ALREADY > HAVE LEDOUX INFO ,LAST KNOW PLACE WAS CRESSON PA AROUND. 1900.GEORGE > WAS > BORN 5-4-1858 AND WAS MARRIED TO MATILDA HANCUFF,HIS FATHERS NAME WAS > JAMES B:1811 D:1880,OF CAMBRIA COUNTY ,MOTHERS NAME WAS SARA HOWELL > BORN > :1821 DIED: 1860 BURIED IN ST. ALOYSIUS CEMETERY CRESSON PA. > thank you > john e. Hi, John--I find in Mary Louise Donnelly's book, 'Maryland Elder Family and Kin' (1st ed., 1975), p.31: James Elder married in 1792 in Frederick Co., MD, Catherine Hughes and they moved to Cambria Co., PA; they had [at least] five children: Patrick, born 1793, John, born 1802, Henry, Juliana, Margaret, born 1810. [no further data on any of these children given by Mary Louise] p.31-32: Walter, James' younger brother, followed James into Cambria Co., PA, purchased 300 acres of land between Loretto, PA and the present town of Altoona, PA. Here he built a saw mill and a grist mill and cleared a section for farming. Walter died in Cambria, PA, 23 May 1842, and his wife, Priscillia, in 1852. They had children: John, George, born 23 Aug 1798, Eleanor, born 1801, Priscilla, Charles, James, Joseph (died single), Juliana, born 1805, Sophia, born 6 Feb 1809, Richard, born 6 Feb 1815, Mary Ann, born 26 Sept 1819, and Rebecca, born 1820. p.58: according to Mary Louise, this James Elder, son of Walter, married Ann O'Connell on 13 Jan 1835, and "only two of their children are known to this researcher": William Elder, born 1838, and Joseph Elder, died single. Perhaps this James was married more than once, and your George was by a subsequent wife (Sara Howell?). Mary Louise's second edition of her Elder book may help, I haven't seen it. Good luck! --Gary E. Myer, a gr-gr-gr-grandson of Aloysius Elder (1757-1827) and Mary Josephine Green Hayden (1775-1842). -- Gary E. Myer 6272 Light Point Place Columbia, MD 21045-4435 (voice) 410-381-1699 (email) gmyer@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Occupation: Librarian. Interests: Promisekeepers, family, genealogy.
Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER Legislative Papers of Oct. 1779, NC
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:18:32 -0500
Sorry to get off the subject, this is among my loose papers, having followed Samuel Elder's for so long. July 6, 1983, Haydon Burns Library, Jacksonville, FL.:Vol. 13 1778-1779, CLARK State Records of NC p. 842 & 845. Samuel ELDER of Lincoln County, NC. "Samuel ELDER as a proper person to be exempted from paying Taxes" "....a cripple....a Poor Infirm Man..."was exempted from paying taxes" (Bullentin Gen. Soc. Old Tryon Co., II.87). No other clues in this, simply a fact from the records. Ann
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Another ELDER Family!
From: "James C. Elder" <jcelder@mho.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 00:15:59 -0700
Jim GOLDEN ... and everyone else: It doesn't appear that anyone else responded to this particular message, so I'll throw in some info. The William ELDER (native of Virginia, and among the first settlers of Greene Co, GA) is Individual Number 15786 in Lee's GENEALOGY OF THE ELDER CLAN. His wife's name was Lydia, but we don't know her maiden name. This William was in Wilkes County and Greene County, GA, buying and selling land from about March 1787 until his death about January 1797 in Greene Co, GA. He was survived by wife Lydia and several children. Lydia qualified as administrator of William's estate in Greene Co, GA, on 28 Jan 1797. Don't have the names of all of William and Lydia ELDER's children. The first I can see of Edward A. ELDER is his marriage to Mary WILSON over in Jasper Co, GA, on 15 Jan 1817. In Greene Co, GA, on 10 May 1806 a Violet ELDER married James HARDWICK, and on 23 Jun 1806 a William H. ELDER married Catherine JACKSON. I don't know where Violet or William H. fit into the tree...does anyone else? Maybe this will help someone. Thanks for the info, Jim GOLDEN; I've plugged Edward A. and Mary (WILSON) ELDER and their offspring into the above-mentioned William's line. Jim Elder (James Cleveland Elder of Arvada, CO ... whose WWW pages are at http://home.mho.net/jcelder/ ) -----Original Message----- From: James P. Golden <jpgolden@juno.com> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Sunday, January 04, 1998 4:02 PM Subject: [Elder-News]: Another ELDER Family! >Excerpted from "Souvenir Sketches of GA & FL. > > "John G. ELDER, M.D., is a son of Edward A. ELDER and Mary >WILSON. He was born in Jasper County, GA, Oct 4, 1839. He comes of one >of the old families of Middle Georgia. > > His father, Edward A. ELDER, was born in Greensborough, Greene >County, GA, Dec 28, 1794. He is now (1888) living and is consequently in >his ninety-fourth year. He was in the war of 1812 and was disabled in >that service, having now carried for more than seventy-five years >injuries which were received in that war. > > His father, William ELDER, was a native of Virginia, and among >the first settlers of Greene County, GA. But little recollection of him >is preserved except that he was a hardy pioneer, containing a great deal >of the stern stuff which goes into the make-up of the adventurous >frontiersman. > > Mary WILSON, wife of Edward A. ELDER and mother of J. G. ELDER, >was a daughter of Achilles WILSON, a native of Virginia and early settler >of Greene County, GA. The Children of this union are: >William A., Absalom, George W., Susannah E., Nancy S., Edward A., James >L., Mary M., John G., Joseph B., W. F., and Martha A." > >Does anyone recognize the family? I can't find them in Lee ELDER's book. >Thanks, Jim
Subject: [Elder-News]: Virgininians In The Revolution
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 22:03:49 -0500
Elder-I cannot give the name of this book, please do not laugh, a genealogist sent this when I was having some work done and it was just an oversight, page 252. ELDER, Andrew, 5 and 11 Cl, 7 Cl, ELDER, Andrew Capt Gabriel Long's Co., Morgan's Riflemen. ELDER, Charles, Detachment of Virginians, 14 CL ELDER, David, IP ELDER, Ephraim, Va. Batalion. ELDER, Ephraim, final pay claim alleges his widow, Martha Moore, lived in Campbell Co., heirs named. ELDER, John, 6 CL, 12 CL, ELDER, John, Wythe, 78, mpl. ELDER, Newman, 6 CL ELDER, Robert, Lincoln Co., KY., CL (this Robert was the son of Matthew Elder who d. in Washington Co., VA. after Robert's mother, Mary died he and his wife and sister moved to Lincoln Co KY and they are bur. in McCormack Cemetery Lincoln Co KY. According to Robert's pension papers he was born in PA. as was brother Andrew.aebp ELDER, Voidre, 4 CL, It appears that some of these ELDER's were of William Edmond and Ann Elder. Ann
Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER Misc.
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 22:19:02 -0500
ELDER-I have a copy of a letter written in 1973 to John V. Hollingsworth Genalogical Research, Chadds Ford, Penna. 19317, dated September 17, 1973. A lady from Palos Verdes Estates CA. Mr. Hollingsworth answer to her: "There are several Quaker meetings in Lancaster county, Lancaster, Sadsbury, Columbia, Lampeter, River, East Sadsbury, Bart, Little Elk, Little Britain, Eastland, Drumore & Fawn. Two ELDER's left wills in Lancaster county. John ELDER died 1757, Will Book B .L51 (this was typed over it might be "I" instead of the "L"), and Thomas ELDERk died 1752, Will Book J.1.45. Then there are two ELDER's that died without leaving a will - David ELDER died 1764 and Preston B. ELDER who died in 1840. One of these may be the father of your Robert ELDER." "There are five Robert ELDER's in the 1790 census of Penna. Robert of Dauphin county, himself and 3 females; Robert ELDER, Franklin county, himself, 3 males under 16, and two females. Robert ELDER, Westmoreland county, himself, one male under 16 and 2 females. Robert ELDER, same county as above, Terry Twp. 1.1.3. I suspect your Robert may be one of the two Roberts in Westmoreland county, and ELDER's Ridge, Penna. in that county." That was all I found in th vertical files. Ann
Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER Misc
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 22:27:12 -0500
ELDER-This information and the last one refering to the Robert Elder's in PA. are from the Chester County Historical Society, PA. "Miss Dorothy Lapp, Historical Society North High Street, West Chester, PA (they did not have zip codes). "Last year when I wrote the County Clerk of West Chester, I was given your name. John ELDER, in a sworn statement in a RW pension application, said he was born in 1762 in Chester county, Pa. His father was Thomas ELDER, who lived in White Deer Twnp. of Union Co. Pa. in 1793. After the War, John ELDER went back for a time to Chester, which leads me to believe that his family was there at this time." I hope some of this misc. information I've gathered will help one of you or someone you know. Ann E.B. Poe
Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER, Greene Co., TN.
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 23:08:14 -0500
ELDER-Marriages Greene County, TN., 1985/86 Sandra K. Houston was kind enought to respond to a letter I had written. "I was unable to find a will in Greene Co., TN. in the name of ELDER. I have found several Marriages: (this is from the courthouse):No. 1336 - Sept. 4, 1847 - Richard ELDER -- Elizabeth GEORGE md. 12 Sept 1847--R.R. Williams, J.P.; No. 1351-Oct. 6, 1847-Calvin ELDER--Mary MORGAN--John D. GEORGE--md. 14 Ocg. 1847--Wm. B. Dawson. No.1848-Aug. 13, 1850-Pickney ELDER--Elizabeth CUMMINGS md. 15 Aug 1850--Wm. P. SHARP J.P.; no # Aug. 4 1851-Chesley ELDER--Narcissa GEORGE-md. 7 Aug. 1851--Wm. P. Sharp.; no.# Dec. 10, 1853-Casper ELDER-Margaret CUMMINGS md. 13 Dec. 1853--Wm B. Woolsey, Bapt. Minister;no# June 24, 1859-Leethey ELDER--Michael CRUM-md.30 June 1859--Wm. J. RUBLE, J.P.;no# Jan. 2, 1860-Wm R. ELDER--Sarah Jane ELLISON md. 19 Jan. 1860--Wm. B. WOOLSEY, M.G.; no#-May 30, 1861-Peter ELDER--Catharine Minerva REEVES md. 16 June 1861--Wm B. WOOLSEY, M.G."
Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER PENN. ARCHIVES
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 01:23:09 -0500
ELDER-PA. Archives III Series, Vol. 26, p. 426-WARRANTEES OF LAND
ELDER, Robert 100 acres, Date of Survey-Feb 23, 1785
ELDER, Robert 300 acres, " -March 4, 1786
ELDER, Joshua 250 acres, " -Aug. 11, 1786
ELDER, Sarah 300 acres, " -Aug. 18, 1786
ELDER, Joshua 130 acres, " -Aug. 18, 1786
ELDER, Robert 400 acres, " -Aug. 18, 1786
ELDER, Mary 300 acres, " -Aug. 18, 1786
(Was Sarah the wife of the above Joshua ELDER?)aebp
Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER PENN. ARCHIVES
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 01:37:01 -0500
ELDER-PENN. ARCHIVES III SERIES VOL. XXV1, p. 427
COUNTY OF WESTMORELAND-1772-1892
ELDER, Hannah, 300.144 acres Date of Survey-Oct. 5, 1787
ELDER, Robert, 200 acres
" -April 1, 1788
ELDER, James, 300 acres
" -April 2, 1788
ELDER, Joshua, 338.80 acres " -April
5, 1788
ELDER, James, 300 acres
" -Oct. 8, 1788
ELDER, John, 130 acres
" -Nov 7, 1788
ELDER, James, 300 acres " -Jan
29, 1789
ELDER, James, 100 acres " -Jan
29, 1789
ELDER, David, 400 acres
" -April 23, 1789
ELDER, Robert, 200 acres
" -Feb 9. 1791
ELDER, Bridget, 400 acres
" -Jan 8, 1794
ELDER, Andrew 400 acres " -Jan
8, 1794
Subject: [Elder-News]: Penn Archives III Series Vol XXV1
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 01:54:54 -0500
COUNTY OF WESTMORELAND-1773-1892-page 427 ELDER, Hannah--300.144acres.....Date of Survey....Oct.5, 1787 ELDER, Robert---200acres...Date of Survey...April 1, 1788 ELDER, James...300acres...Date of Survey...April 2, 1788 ELDER, Joshua...338.80acres...Date of Survey...April 5, 1788 ELDER, James...300acres...Date of Survey...Oct 8, 1788 ELDER, John...130acres...Date of Survey...Nov 7, 1788 ELDER, James...300acres...Date of Survey...Jan 29, 1789 ELDER, James...100acres...Date of Survey...Jan 29, 1789 ELDER, David...400acres...Date of Survey...April 28, 1789 ELDER, Robert...200acres...Feb 8, 1791 ELDER, Bridget...400acres...Jan 8, 1794 ELDER, Andrew...400acres...Jan 8, 1794 To Be Continued (later) Ann
Subject: [Elder-News]: 1850 U. S. Census of Georgia!
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 12:46:03 -0500
>From 1850 U. S. Census: Jasper County, Georgia Page 88 Edward A. ELDER 55 M Farmer GA Mary 50 F GA James 20 M GA Mary 17 F GA John 15 M GA Franklin 10 M GA Martha 8 F GA ========================================= Butts County, Georgia Page 364 William A. ELDER 32 M Farmer GA Syntha 25 F GA Laura 5 F GA George 4 M GA William 3 M GA James 2 M GA Edward A. 23 M GA Note: William A. ELDER & Edward A. ELDER are sons of Edward A. ELDER of Jasper County, GA (jpg) =========================================== Butts County, Georgia Page 351 William ELDER 22 M Farmer GA Julia 18 F GA Sarah E. 4/12 F GA Note: Don't know origin of this family (jpg). =========================================== Coweta County, Georgia page 303 Wm H. ELDER 28 M Farmer GA Elizabeth 25 F GA Rebecca J. 7 F GA Mary E. 5 F GA Martha 3 F GA Note: Don't know this family (jpg). To be con't...........................
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder's Franklin Co. Pa.
From: LEW1991 <LEW1991@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 17:02:19 EST
The following Elder names are listed in the Fannet Township, Franklin County, Pa. tax listing for 1786: John Elder, Jun. Robert Elder David Elder, Jun. Robert Elder, Sen David Elder William Elder Samuel Elder 1788 Tax Listing: David Elder, Sen. David Elder John Elder James Elder Robert Elder William Elder Robert Elder
Subject: Re:[Elder-News]: ELDER Misc.
From: Dan Elder <dan.elder@fbcvidalia.org>
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:20:04 -0500
Ann, I've followed your postings for a while and I'm very interested in your current PA postings. I'm trying very hard to make a connection from Grayson County, KY, back to somewhere in PA. " Robert ELDER, Franklin county, himself, 3 males under 16, and two females." This entry is interesting because there are the same numbers and genders in the household as the one that arrived in KY in 1798. Widow Jane Elder arrived in Warren County, KY, in 1798 with (probably children) John, George (m. Rebecca Ray, 1800), Thomas (m. Mary 'Polly' Smith, 1806), Margaret (m. John McFadin, 1804), and Jennie [Jane] (m. Andrew Mc Faddin, Jr., 1806). Thomas is listed in the 1850 census as born in PA; he is the patriarch of the the rather prolific Grayson County, KY, Elders. I don't know widow Jane Elder's maiden name or her husdand's name. He apparently died before the family reached KY. There may be some relation to the Elder branch in Hancock County, Ohio, becausexthey are known to have visited there in 1825. Do you have any further info or can you recommend a place to look? Regards, Dan Elder :-) >ELDER-I have a copy of a letter written in 1973 to John V. Hollingsworth >Genalogical Research, Chadds Ford, Penna. 19317, dated September 17, 1973. >A lady from Palos Verdes Estates CA. Mr. Hollingsworth answer to her: >"There are several Quaker meetings in Lancaster county, Lancaster, Sadsbury, >Columbia, Lampeter, River, East Sadsbury, Bart, Little Elk, Little Britain, >Eastland, Drumore & Fawn. Two ELDER's left wills in Lancaster county. John >ELDER died 1757, Will Book B .L51 (this was typed over it might be "I" >instead of the "L"), and Thomas ELDERk died 1752, Will Book J.1.45. Then >there are two ELDER's that died without leaving a will - David ELDER died >1764 and Preston B. ELDER who died in 1840. One of these may be the father >of your Robert ELDER." > >"There are five Robert ELDER's in the 1790 census of Penna. Robert of >Dauphin county, himself and 3 females; Robert ELDER, Franklin county, >himself, 3 males under 16, and two females. Robert ELDER, Westmoreland >county, himself, one male under 16 and 2 females. Robert ELDER, same county >as above, Terry Twp. 1.1.3. I suspect your Robert may be one of the two >Roberts in Westmoreland county, and ELDER's Ridge, Penna. in that county." >That was all I found in th vertical files. Ann > > > > > > - Dan Elder -Reply: dan.elder@fbcvidalia.org
Subject: [Elder-News]: Jasper County, Georgia
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:22:53 -0500
Jasper County, Georgia Cemetery & Bible Records Compiled & Mimeographed by Jewel Moats Lancaster Shady Dale, Georgia 31085 Copyright 1969 Monticello Methodist Church Cemetery Monticello, Georgia Mary A., wife of E. A. ELDER November 28, 1799 November 18, 1886 Edward A. ELDER December 28, 1794 January 14, 1891 Martha A. ELDER Wife of James L. CAMPBELL August 13, 1842 September 23, 1910 Monticello Presbyterian Church Cemetery Monticello, Georgia Dr. John Graves ELDER October 4, 1835 May 23, 1896 Mary Ellen ELDER Wife of Dr. J. G. ELDER August 25, 1849 March 14, 1906 Westview Cemetery, Monticello, Georgia ELDER Family Plot Lou T. ELDER (Mother) 1857 - 1918 Charles N. ELDER (Father) 1858 - 1924 A. P. ELDER January 13, 1892 December 11, 1918 Bertha Lee JONES January 8, 1883 April 21, 1942 Augustua Frank JONES September 7, 1880 May 7, 1958 FYI, Jim
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder's Franklin Co. Pa.
From: "John F. Erbland" <jerbland@southconn.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:44:59 -0500
LEW1991 wrote: > > The following Elder names are listed in the Fannet Township, Franklin County, > Pa. tax listing for 1786: > > John Elder, Jun. > Robert Elder > David Elder, Jun. > Robert Elder, Sen > David Elder > William Elder > Samuel Elder > > 1788 Tax Listing: > > David Elder, Sen. > David Elder > John Elder > James Elder > Robert Elder > William Elder > Robert Elder Attaway, Linda! Keep up the good work! Now all we have to do is to figure out if they're ours! How about John Buchanan? Anything on him, yet? And how's your mother doing? I wrote to Lois just the other day. Her letter was really sweet. Nancy
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder's Franklin Co. Pa.
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:10:45 -0500
Hi, I really am sorry to be pushy but are we talking about something I posted last night? If so, it was information from the genealogy department in the Philadelphia Library and from Chester County Historical Society. I have a sister in PA and when I was visiting her more frequently would try and run in. I am not trying to interfere with anyones family. There was a time in my life I was under the impression that Elder was a most uncommon name, I certainly was wrong. I do know that if any of you run into the surname MOUNT from NJ to VA to NC to TN they are mine and they are "most uncommon". Sorry if I interrupted. Ann elderbrooks@msn.com -----Original Message----- From: John F. Erbland <jerbland@southconn.com> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Sunday, January 11, 1998 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder's Franklin Co. Pa. >LEW1991 wrote: >> >> The following Elder names are listed in the Fannet Township, Franklin County, >> Pa. tax listing for 1786: >> >> John Elder, Jun. >> Robert Elder >> David Elder, Jun. >> Robert Elder, Sen >> David Elder >> William Elder >> Samuel Elder >> >> 1788 Tax Listing: >> >> David Elder, Sen. >> David Elder >> John Elder >> James Elder >> Robert Elder >> William Elder >> Robert Elder > > Attaway, Linda! Keep up the good work! Now all we have to do is to >figure out if they're ours! > How about John Buchanan? Anything on him, yet? > And how's your mother doing? I wrote to Lois just the other day. Her >letter was really sweet. > >Nancy > > > >
Subject: Re: Re:[Elder-News]: ELDER Misc.
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:32:11 -0500
Hi Dan & All, Dan I know that we have people on here that know the PA ELDER's up one side and down the other. I have a sister in PA and when I have visited I try to head for Philadelphia to the library, they have ELDER's all over the place, my sister has friends who are ELDER's. She wants me to find her one of those, those in PA. she does love the family but she does not lean in this direction at all. I have some others to post, and I saw something I filed tonight which said something about from PA to several different place in OH. I am more familiar with the ELDER's of Paxtang, but not an expert. The more I learn the more I realize how little I do know. I am going through material I put away a few years ago and James C. Elder knows I am posting in "bits n pieces" another reason for that, I have tried every ELDER I can find in search of where mine belong. Yes, dear cousins, I know you know that you think I belong with a certain family, but I am stubborn enough to want just one small piece of proof, real proof. So I will keep on sitting in TN. until I know where to go. Please assist me! Dan I will watch and ask. I am sure you will hear from the other's on your family, but will keep my eyes open. Nice to see you on the board, Ann -----Original Message----- From: Dan Elder <dan.elder@fbcvidalia.org> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Sunday, January 11, 1998 9:20 PM Subject: Re:[Elder-News]: ELDER Misc. >Ann, > >I've followed your postings for a while and I'm very interested in your current PA postings. I'm trying very hard to make a connection from Grayson County, KY, back to somewhere in PA. > >" Robert ELDER, Franklin county, >himself, 3 males under 16, and two females." This entry is interesting because there are the same numbers and genders in the household as the one that arrived in KY in 1798. > >Widow Jane Elder arrived in Warren County, KY, in 1798 with (probably children) John, George (m. Rebecca Ray, 1800), Thomas (m. Mary 'Polly' Smith, 1806), Margaret (m. John McFadin, 1804), and Jennie [Jane] (m. Andrew Mc Faddin, Jr., 1806). > >Thomas is listed in the 1850 census as born in PA; he is the patriarch of the the rather prolific Grayson County, KY, Elders. > >I don't know widow Jane Elder's maiden name or her husdand's name. He apparently died before the family reached KY. > >There may be some relation to the Elder branch in Hancock County, Ohio, becausexthey are known to have visited there in 1825. > >Do you have any further info or can you recommend a place to look? > > Regards, > > Dan Elder :-) > > >>ELDER-I have a copy of a letter written in 1973 to John V. Hollingsworth >>Genalogical Research, Chadds Ford, Penna. 19317, dated September 17, 1973. >>A lady from Palos Verdes Estates CA. Mr. Hollingsworth answer to her: >>"There are several Quaker meetings in Lancaster county, Lancaster, Sadsbury, >>Columbia, Lampeter, River, East Sadsbury, Bart, Little Elk, Little Britain, >>Eastland, Drumore & Fawn. Two ELDER's left wills in Lancaster county. John >>ELDER died 1757, Will Book B .L51 (this was typed over it might be "I" >>instead of the "L"), and Thomas ELDERk died 1752, Will Book J.1.45. Then >>there are two ELDER's that died without leaving a will - David ELDER died >>1764 and Preston B. ELDER who died in 1840. One of these may be the father >>of your Robert ELDER." >> >>"There are five Robert ELDER's in the 1790 census of Penna. Robert of >>Dauphin county, himself and 3 females; Robert ELDER, Franklin county, >>himself, 3 males under 16, and two females. Robert ELDER, Westmoreland >>county, himself, one male under 16 and 2 females. Robert ELDER, same county >>as above, Terry Twp. 1.1.3. I suspect your Robert may be one of the two >>Roberts in Westmoreland county, and ELDER's Ridge, Penna. in that county." >>That was all I found in th vertical files. Ann >> >> >> >> >> >> > >- Dan Elder > >-Reply: dan.elder@fbcvidalia.org >
Subject: [Elder-News]: County of Bedford 2772-2893
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 21:45:26 -0500
COUNTY OF BEDFORD--1771-1893 (PA. same source, p. 507) ELDER, Robert, & others..400 acres-Date of Survey-June 7, 1786 ELDER, John, 50 acres-Date of Survey-Feb. 29, 1788 ELDER, Joshua, 227 acres-Date of Survey-April 5, 1788 Several of the EPSY family is listed among all of these ELDER's in all of the counties. To Be Continued Ann elderbrooks@msn.com
Subject: Re:[Elder-News]: ELDER Misc. PA
From: glm2@psu.edu (Gary L. Messing)
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:12:40 +0100
To all,
Several years ago I tried to identify as many of the early Elders on the
census records from the different Elder branches. I can't put my hands on
that analysis at the moment. Will send it when it is located. Donna has
printed in the Elder Newsletters (see Vols # 1,2,3) several PA family
genealogies who have had members migrate to other states. These include
what I call the "Paxtang", "Bedford", "Centre", "Clarion" and many others
from PA counties. There is a wealth of information waiting for someone to
pull all the pieces into the proper puzzle.
>From "Pennsylvania Genealogies chiefly Scotch-Irish and German" by
William Henry Egle, MD, MA reprint of the second edition Baltimore
Genealogical Publishing co. 1969 This is the source from which I started
working with the "PAXTANG ELDERS" The section on Robert Elder's line
begins on page 187 & goes through 213. It lists extensively descendants
and where they moved and settled in other counties and states. (Ohio,
Indiana, Kansas, Maryland
P. 199 "XVI MICHAEL ELDER, (3) (JOHN (2), ROBERT (1)) B. AUGUST 9, 1773;
D. SEPTEMBER 25, 1850, AT COLUMBIA, PA was twice married; m. first June 4,
1795, NANCY McKINNEY, of Middletown. They had issue:
i. Myra, m. Christian Haldeman.
ii. Preston-Billings, b. February 6, 1810; d January 6, 1840, in
Columbia; m. in 1834, Henrietta E. V. Calibourne; was cashier of the
Columbia Bank & Bridge company, at the same time editor of the SPY; was a
brillant writer of prose and verse, a volume of which was published after
his death.
Michael Elder m. secondly, April 5, 1827 Charlotte Giberson. They had
issue;
iii. William, d.s.p."
This should help identify Preston below.
The parents of Michael above- John (2) is Rev John Elder, "The Fighting
Parson", and his second wife, Mary Simpson.
I hope to send more later,
Becky Messing
>I've followed your postings for a while and I'm very interested in your
>current PA postings. I'm trying very hard to make a connection from
>Grayson County, KY, back to somewhere in PA.
>
>" Robert ELDER, Franklin county,
>himself, 3 males under 16, and two females." This entry is interesting
>because there are the same numbers and genders in the household as the one
>that arrived in KY in 1798.
>
>Widow Jane Elder arrived in Warren County, KY, in 1798 with (probably
>children) John, George (m. Rebecca Ray, 1800), Thomas (m. Mary 'Polly'
>Smith, 1806), Margaret (m. John McFadin, 1804), and Jennie [Jane] (m.
>Andrew Mc Faddin, Jr., 1806).
>
>Thomas is listed in the 1850 census as born in PA; he is the patriarch of
>the the rather prolific Grayson County, KY, Elders.
>
>I don't know widow Jane Elder's maiden name or her husdand's name. He
>apparently died before the family reached KY.
>
>There may be some relation to the Elder branch in Hancock County, Ohio,
>becausexthey are known to have visited there in 1825.
>
>Do you have any further info or can you recommend a place to look?
>> Regards,
> Dan Elder :-)
>
>
>>ELDER-I have a copy of a letter written in 1973 to John V. Hollingsworth
>>Genalogical Research, Chadds Ford, Penna. 19317, dated September 17, 1973.
>>A lady from Palos Verdes Estates CA. Mr. Hollingsworth answer to her:
>>"There are several Quaker meetings in Lancaster county, Lancaster, Sadsbury,
>>Columbia, Lampeter, River, East Sadsbury, Bart, Little Elk, Little Britain,
>>Eastland, Drumore & Fawn. Two ELDER's left wills in Lancaster county. John
>>ELDER died 1757, Will Book B .L51 (this was typed over it might be "I"
>>instead of the "L"), and Thomas ELDERk died 1752, Will Book J.1.45. Then
>>there are two ELDER's that died without leaving a will - David ELDER died
>>1764 and Preston B. ELDER who died in 1840. One of these may be the father
>>of your Robert ELDER."
>>
>>"There are five Robert ELDER's in the 1790 census of Penna. Robert of
>>Dauphin county, himself and 3 females; Robert ELDER, Franklin county,
>>himself, 3 males under 16, and two females. Robert ELDER, Westmoreland
>>county, himself, one male under 16 and 2 females. Robert ELDER, same county
>>as above, Terry Twp. 1.1.3. I suspect your Robert may be one of the two
>>Roberts in Westmoreland county, and ELDER's Ridge, Penna. in that county."
>>That was all I found in th vertical files. Ann
>- Dan Elder
>
>-Reply: dan.elder@fbcvidalia.org
Becky Messing
814 W. Foster Ave
State College, PA 16801
(814) 234-0561
glm2@email.psu.edu
Subject: [Elder-News]: Re: Franklin Cty. Pa. Early Land Entries
From: LEW1991 <LEW1991@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:09:30 EST
The History of Franklin County, Pa. (pg. 579) lists early land entries for
Fannett Township. Included in this listing are the following Elder's:
David Elder, April 16, 1763. Neighbors: James Irvin, Robert Baker, Samuel
Gamble, James Moore.
John Elder, March 13, 1767. Neighbors: Samuel Moore, James Urich, Felix
Doyle.
James Elder, April 16, 1763. Neighbors: Felix Doyle, Samuel Baker, Hugh
Harron, Robert Little.
Linda Winkler
Subject: Re: Re:[Elder-News]: ELDER Misc.
From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:35:02 -0500
Dan & All, I may have some information on Grayson Co KY, I am getting through this stuff, slowly, I think I have some Bible records from KY which I copied in Washington Co VA Hist. Society. I will get there. Ann -----Original Message----- From: Dan Elder <dan.elder@fbcvidalia.org> To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net> Date: Sunday, January 11, 1998 9:20 PM Subject: Re:[Elder-News]: ELDER Misc. >Ann, > >I've followed your postings for a while and I'm very interested in your current PA postings. I'm trying very hard to make a connection from Grayson County, KY, back to somewhere in PA. > >" Robert ELDER, Franklin county, >himself, 3 males under 16, and two females." This entry is interesting because there are the same numbers and genders in the household as the one that arrived in KY in 1798. > >Widow Jane Elder arrived in Warren County, KY, in 1798 with (probably children) John, George (m. Rebecca Ray, 1800), Thomas (m. Mary 'Polly' Smith, 1806), Margaret (m. John McFadin, 1804), and Jennie [Jane] (m. Andrew Mc Faddin, Jr., 1806). > >Thomas is listed in the 1850 census as born in PA; he is the patriarch of the the rather prolific Grayson County, KY, Elders. > >I don't know widow Jane Elder's maiden name or her husdand's name. He apparently died before the family reached KY. > >There may be some relation to the Elder branch in Hancock County, Ohio, becausexthey are known to have visited there in 1825. > >Do you have any further info or can you recommend a place to look? > > Regards, > > Dan Elder :-) > > >>ELDER-I have a copy of a letter written in 1973 to John V. Hollingsworth >>Genalogical Research, Chadds Ford, Penna. 19317, dated September 17, 1973. >>A lady from Palos Verdes Estates CA. Mr. Hollingsworth answer to her: >>"There are several Quaker meetings in Lancaster county, Lancaster, Sadsbury, >>Columbia, Lampeter, River, East Sadsbury, Bart, Little Elk, Little Britain, >>Eastland, Drumore & Fawn. Two ELDER's left wills in Lancaster county. John >>ELDER died 1757, Will Book B .L51 (this was typed over it might be "I" >>instead of the "L"), and Thomas ELDERk died 1752, Will Book J.1.45. Then >>there are two ELDER's that died without leaving a will - David ELDER died >>1764 and Preston B. ELDER who died in 1840. One of these may be the father >>of your Robert ELDER." >> >>"There are five Robert ELDER's in the 1790 census of Penna. Robert of >>Dauphin county, himself and 3 females; Robert ELDER, Franklin county, >>himself, 3 males under 16, and two females. Robert ELDER, Westmoreland >>county, himself, one male under 16 and 2 females. Robert ELDER, same county >>as above, Terry Twp. 1.1.3. I suspect your Robert may be one of the two >>Roberts in Westmoreland county, and ELDER's Ridge, Penna. in that county." >>That was all I found in th vertical files. Ann >> >> >> >> >> >> > >- Dan Elder > >-Reply: dan.elder@fbcvidalia.org >
Subject: [Elder-News]: Easter Elder - Venango Co, PA & John Elder - Centre Co, PA
From: glm2@psu.edu (Gary L. Messing)
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 21:59:43 +0100
Hi all,
Does anyone have an idea who Easter Elder is???
>From IGI Easter Elder m. Isaac Rinard 1807 Venango Co, PA BS# A537648. I
haven't been able to look at the source document. It may be possible that
it is Isaac Binkerd. This name was spelled many ways through different
census years. There was an Isaac Binkerd who was named as guardian for the
children of David Buzzard & Eliza (Truby?) in 1868. There was an
indication that David & Isaac were cousins. David is the son of George
Buzzard and Margaret "Peggy" Elder. OR if David's wife was a Truby, maybe
Isaac was her cousin.
Any ideas from the Clarion Co researchers???
To aid the understanding of those searching for Thomas Elder whose son,
John Elder was a resident of Lamar, Centre Co, PA I can give you a quote
from "The Family of Samuel & Jean Love Wilson From Ardstaw, County Tyrone,
Northern Ireland. Moved to Penn's Valley, Potter Twp, Centre Co, PA in
1791 until 1801, when they became pioneer seettlers of the Brush Run
Settlement, Clarion Twp, Clarion Co, PA" by Sara Stewart Hinckley, Gateway
Press, Inc., Baltimore 1984. This should help explain why John moved. For
those who study Clarion Co History these families are part of the Centre Co
contingent who settled Clarion Co.
p. 8 "The Penn's Valley area was surveyed in the 1760s after the
land purchases from the Indians in 1754 and 1768 and was opened for
settlement shortly thereafter.(11) With the outbreak of the Revolution,
Indian depredatins became severe. Potter's fort, a stout log house on a
knoll with nearby spring, surrounded by a stockade, was built in 1777 by
General James Potter near the intersection of the present state routes 45
and 144 at Old Fort. (12) 'Here the early settlers found shelter . . .when
Indians made incursions into the valley.'(13) "It was occupied in July,
1778 by Captain Finlay's company of Colonel Brodhead's command, for a few
weeks, - to protect the reapers, and two of his soldiers were killed there
by the Indians.' (14) When the soldiers left and the settlers found
themselves at the mercy of the Indians they sought safety in the more
populous areas of Cumberland county, known as the Great Runaway of 1778.
(15) By 1784 Penn's Valley was again safe for settlement and the former
inhabitants retuned to their land together with ever increasing numbers of
new settlers. (16)
Footnotes (11) Linn, "History of Centre & Clinton Counties, PA, 8 401-2
(12) ibid, 17-20, 402-403 (13) Report of the Commission to locate the
site of the Frontier Forts of PA, 507 (14) Ibid, 505 (15) Linn, op.
cit., 20 (16) ibid, 21, 404
Quoting from "Revolutionary Pensioners, Centre County, PA, Vol 1, Surnames
A-L by Dr. W.F. Wagner (book is located in the Centre County Historical
Library in Bellefonte, PA)
Declaration of John Elder, widow Mary
"On this 29th day of April, A. D. , 1834, personally appeared in open Court
of Common please, now holidng, in and for the Cournty of Centre, John
Elder, a resident of Lamar Township, in the County of Centre and Stae of
PA, aged weventy, who, being first duly sworn accourding to law, doth, on
his oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of
the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832.
That he entered the service of the United States under the
following named officers and served as herein stated. That in the latter
part of the summer of the uyear, 1777, deponent thne living in White Deer
Valley, Northumberland (now Unio) County, PA, entered as a volunteer with
Captian John Foster's company of Indian scouts or rangers (The latter wrote
his name Forster and at the time of the Revolution lived near Buffalo Cross
Raods. John Wilson served in his company, who later married his daughter,
the latter was a pensioner under this 1832 law; in Union County, his widow
also received a pension, in whose papers there is considerable data
relative to her father, the above Captain John Forster. W.F.W.) an marched
to Loyalsoc Gap, Northumberland (now Lycoming) Count, and from thence he
marched to Love's gap (not plainly written, perhaps Lones' or Jones' gap.
W.F.W.) in the same County, - that after bing engaged in this service for
the space of two months, The Indians went to their hunting grounds, and he
returned home. (It may perhaps be true some of the Indians went on their
fall hunt, however it is more probable the season of the year had arrived,
in which Indian incursions were usually suspended on account of the cold
and snow in the mountains Interfering with travel. W.F.W.) Captian
Foster's company was the only compay present at this time. -That early in
the spring of the year 1778, he again volunteered into Captain Foster's
company (of which Nicholas Shaw was the Lieutenant) and marched to Titsol's
mill [Titzell's Mill. December 1, 1774 is the date of the deed from
William robb and Olive, his wife, to Henry Titzell, for fifty acres on
Little Buffalo creek, the mill tract now (1777) owned by Jonas Rauch, in
White Deer township. The mills were built during this winter, as he is
assessed in 1773 with grist and saw-mill, Titzell's mill was a rendezvous
during the Revolution and a station of the defenders of the frontiers.
Titzell never returned from Cumberland county after the great runaway of
1778 and we find nagel Gray of Northampton county, in possession in 1783,
and a conveyance from Titzell to Gray on the 5th of May 1786. Gray died
the same year, and his son John took the tract, who, with Jane, his wife,
sold to George Raniger on the 18th of April, 1796. Raniger failed, and it
went by the name of Kelly's mills for a long time after, until Mr. Ranch's
purchase. J.B.Linn's Annals of Buffalo Valley, p. 62. W.F.W.] in the same
county, where they commenced building a fort but were drien off by the
Indians, and marched from thence to Jenkin's Station. (Unless there was
perhaps another station or fort of this name, the Fort Jenkins or Station
here noted was on the North Branch adn the present state highway between
Bloomsburg and Berwick, its site is marked by a monument. W.F.W.) About
the time of the massacre of Wyoming valley in this year, the settlement in
White deer valley was broken up and throughout the whole season, for the
space of eight month and a half, as near as this deponent can recollect, he
was engaged in marching from one station to another in said county, to
guard the same form the attacks of the Indians, and in escorting the
settlers back upon the older settled and more compact parts of the
country."
Wagner added much detailed information to this declaration. There is much
more along the same lines. If anyone would like more, please let me know.
Thanks,
Becky Messing
Becky Messing
814 W. Foster Ave
State College, PA 16801
(814) 234-0561
glm2@email.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Easter Elder - Venango Co, PA & John Elder - Centre Co, PA
From: Sharhuff <Sharhuff@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 04:06:39 EST
In a message dated 98-01-13 23:06:46 EST, you write: << Does anyone have an idea who Easter Elder is??? From IGI Easter Elder m. Isaac Rinard 1807 Venango Co, PA BS# A537648. I haven't been able to look at the source document. It may be possible that it is Isaac Binkerd. This name was spelled many ways through different census years. There was an Isaac Binkerd who was named as guardian for the children of David Buzzard & Eliza (Truby?) in 1868. There was an indication that David & Isaac were cousins. David is the son of George Buzzard and Margaret "Peggy" Elder. OR if David's wife was a Truby, maybe Isaac was her cousin. Any ideas from the Clarion Co researchers??? >> All I can offer here as a lot of "are nots." (1) I find no Easter/Esther ELDER among the descendants of James ELDER, Sr., of Armstrong & Clarion Cos. who married a BINKERD--In fact no association of any kind between ELDER & BINKERD. (2) Since "Peggy" ELDER is not a descendant of James (above), I have very little on her family, except on son J. Hunter BUZZARD who m/1 Martha Elizabeth RUMBAUGH & m/2 her sister, Fanny RUMBAUGH. The RUMBAUGH girls were daus/o Marshall RUMBAUGH & his 1/w Cassandra REYNOLDS. Marshall's 3/w was Jane BUZZARD who may have been a ch/o George & Peggy, but is not stated in the records. The RUMBAUGHs are TRUBY descendants. (3) The BINKERDs and TRUBYs were very early Armstrong Co. settlers--ca 1799, just before Armstrong became a county. I know very little about the BINKERDs, but don't recall seeing the name in association with Venango Co. The only TRUBY family I know who settled in Venango Co. was that of Andrew & Catharine (MATTERN) TRUBY. They were distantly related to the TRUBYs of Armstrong, but had little association with them. Sharon A. Huffman sharhuff@aol.com
Subject: [Elder-News]: Indiana ELDERs, Kosciusko & Allen Counties
From: Shirley Hunsaker <hunsaker@waisman.wisc.edu>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:22:46 -0500
My deepest apologies - I suspect that this request will be for information that has been posted. Unfortunately I didn't make the connection between my Indiana ELDERs and the Pennsylvania ones until last night. :-( My grandfather, Maurice Chester ELDER, b. Feb. 10, 1889 in Etna Green, IN (Kosciusko County), d. June 16, 1957 in Allen County Indiana; m. Mary Josephine JOHNELL, b. Apr. 30, 1889 in Fort Wayne, IN (Allen County). My Great grandfather was James W. ELDER, b. 1861 in Etna Green, IN (Kosciusko County); m. Edith T. COLLINS, b. 1867 in Wisconsin. While searching for information on Edith COLLINS, I found a transcription of the 1870 census for Kosciusko County which listed her and her mother and also some ELDERs. I copied the information down "just in case". It lists what I think is the young James W. (9 years old) living with his parents, John K. ELDER, 39, farmer, and Elizabeth M., 33, housekeeper. John K. ELDER is listed as having been born in Pennsylvania. His wife, Elizabeth is listed as having been born in Ohio. There are 5 other children in the house: Robert H. (13), Mary U. (11), then James W., David A. (6), John O. (4) and finally Melville (1). Does anyone have any information on these ELDERs? Especially on James W.'s father and his family? Thanks so much! Shirley Hunsaker hunsaker@waisman.wisc.edu Madison, WI
Subject: [Elder-News]: Tennessee Census!
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:04:58 -0500
Gibson County, Tennessee 1850 Wm ELDER 77 VA 1961-530 Mary 70 VA Benjamin ELDER 47 TN 1217-422 Eliza 40 TN William 20 Franklin 17 James 13 Thomas 11 Eugene 8 Annabelle 5 Allen T GRAVES 40 Sarah 35 Wm B. ELDER 35 TN 1959-529 Lucy 34 VA Charles 13 James 8 Virginia 7 Emma 6 Ann 5 Lucella 3 Margaret 1 James Webb 24 John W. ELDER 31 TN 2050-542 Martha 28 TN Henry 8 Leander 3 Mary 6/12 Wm C. PENN 22 J. S. ELDER 11 Henry L. ELDER 29 TN 2051-543 Harriett 24 TN Horace 3 William 10/12 Robert 38 Isabella 30 This William ELDER, b abt 1773 (77 in 1850) in Virginia is #15788 in Lee's book. The above can add to it with names and dates. FYI, Jim
Subject: [Elder-News]: Early East Tennessee Marriages!
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:59:30 -0500
Early East Tennessee Marriages Groom Bride Date County A. W. ELDER Susan J. Campbell 26 Aug 1830 Knox Andrew ELDER Elizabeth Snider 22 May 1806 Grainger Calvin ELDER Mary Morgan 1 4 Oct 1847 Greene Casper ELDER Margaret Cummings 13 Dec 1853 Greene Charles ELDER Elizabeth Underwood 15 Nov 1825 Jefferson Charles ELDER Rachel N Keener 09 Oct 1862 Sevier Chesley ELDER Narcissa George 07 Aug 1851 Greene Hugh ELDER Margaret Denton 15 Feb 1828 Jefferson J. F. ELDER Mary A Denton 03 Aug 1858 Meigs Jacob ELDER Ellen C. Ware 01 Nov 1866 McMinn Jacob ELDER Mattie Colens 20 Sep 1880 Scott James ELDER Mrs. Mary White 14 Apr 1864 McMinn James ELDER Sally Wommack 25 Aug 1826 Rhea John ELDER Mary Vernon 06 Feb 1828 Rhea John ELDER Nancy Sullens 02 Apr 1808 Jefferson John M. ELDER Sarah Mount 06 Feb 1850 Jefferson Moses ELDER Charity Riggs 13 Aug 1856 Campbell Peter ELDER Catherine Minerva Reeves 16 Jun 1861 Greene Pinckney ELDER Elizabeth Cummings 15 Aug 1850 Greene Richard ELDER Elizabeth George 12 Sep 1847 Greene Robert ELDER Eliza Coldwell 20 Jan 1849 McMinn Robert ELDER Mrs. Nancy Witt 14 Jan 1841 McMinn Robert ELDER Nancy Lucas 20 Feb 1836 Rhea Robert ELDER, Jr. Minerva Wright 06 Apr 1834 Rhea Sam'l H ELDER Sarah J. White 29 Oct 1864 McMinn William ELDER Rebecca Cates 18 Jul 1803 Jefferson William R. ELDER Sarah Jane Ellison 19 Jan 1860 Greene Wm A ELDER Harriett A Hicks 07 Jun 1867 Jefferson Wm B ELDER Mary Kennum 24 Oct 1844 Meigs John ELDERS Nancy Cates 21 Jan 1846 Blount FYI, JIm
Subject: [Elder-News]: Early East Tennessee Marriages!
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:02:41 -0500
Groom Bride Date County Samuel Brooks Adaline ELDER 16 Sep 1869 Jefferson David L. Jones Catherine ELDER 02 Aug 1847 Jefferson James W Gresham Clara ELDER 19 Oct 1865 Meigs Jonathan Morgan Elizabeth ELDER 07 Oct 1850 Greene James Moore Hannah ELDER 13 Dec 1814 Jefferson Michael Crum Leethey ELDER 30 Jun 1859 Greene David Lain Loueriza ELDER 18 Aug 1858 Blount Henry Miller Martha Jane ELDER02 Nov 1855 Jefferson James H Newkirk Mary ELDER 27 Nov 1842 Meigs Mark Dennis Mary W ELDER 02 Dec 1855 McMinn Lee Cate Nancy ELDER 03 Dec 1844 Jefferson William Lillard Nancy ELDER 27 Dec 1820 Rhea William Lillard Nancy ELDER 27 Dec 1826 Rhea William Stephenson Nancy ELDER 23 Dec 1847 McMinn G. W. Houseley Sarah ELDER 09 May 1839 Meigs Jacob Snider Susan ELDER 25 Jan 1818 Blount Mordick H. Morgan Susannah H. ELDER17 Nov 1853 McMinn Irah H Jones Thurza ELDER 10 Oct 1860 Jefferson FYI, JIm
Subject: [Elder-News]: 1910 and 1920 Census Headings
From: "Sharon L. Stasak" <gjslstasak@ameritech.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:37:55 -0500
I'm in need of some assistance in determining the headings on the 1910 and 1920 Census records. Can any one out there tell me what the following categories are for: 1910 - Numbers 25 through 32 1920 - Numbers 7 through 29 and right margin notation The records I needed were poor to begin with, and next to impossible to magnify and get clear information in the left and right edges. Are all microfilm of the census records this poor? Is there another source where more clarification might be obtained? The National Archives? Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Sharon Stasak gjslstasak@ameritech.net
Subject: [Elder-News]: Early Middle Tennessee Marriages:
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:59:09 -0500
Groom Bride Date County Anthony ELDER Chanie Galbraith 19 Jan 1867 Montgomery Anthony H. ELDER Judith Ann Hickman 19 Mar 1856 White Bartlett ELDER Ann Turner 25 Sep 1866 Montgomery Benjamin ELDER Eliza Wade 07 Feb 1827 Rutherford Edward ELDER Elizabeth Orand 09 Jan 1855 Cannon Edwards ELDER Eliza Chrisman 21 Mar 1858 Williamson Edwin ELDER Mary Ann Chrisman 14 May 1856 Williamson Elias A. ELDER Eliz. C. Wilson 29 Dec 1856 Rutherford Henry ELDER Ann Eliza Brown 02 Aug 1859 Davidson Henry ELDER Elizabeth Leavell 11 Dec 1865 White James ELDER Jane Watson 26 Mar 1829 Rutherford James ELDER Peggy Wood 02 Jul 1816 Rutherford James ELDER Polly Watwood 21 Sep 1803 Sumner James G. ELDER Susan C. Harris 05 Sep 1854 Rutherford James S. ELDER Martha A Weeks 12 Mar 1856 Davidson John S. ELDER Zinai Overall 14 Feb 1861 Rutherford Joshua ELDER Lydia Etter 29 Jan 1824 Rutherford Joshua ELDER M. M. Martin 27 Nov 1849 Montgomery Levi W. ELDER Mary E. T. McGowan27 Apt 1858 Rutherford William ELDER Tabitha Nance 18 Dec 1828 Rutherford William K. ELDER Eveline Batey 04 Mar 1852 Rutherford FYI, Jim
Subject: [Elder-News]: Early Middle Tennessee Marriages:
From: jpgolden@juno.com
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:01:26 -0500
W. H. Burkett Anne ELDER 24 Apr 1861 Rutherford Baldwin Pratt Betty ELDER 06 Mar 1860 Rutherford John T. Ray Eliza ELDER 07 Sep 1878 Williamson Darley N. Mayfield Ellen ELDER 18 Nov 1865 Montgomery George M Burnett Emily J. ELDER 12 Jan 1853 Rutherford James A. White Lucy E. ELDER 17 Apr 1848 Rutherford Wm Chrisp Mary ELDER 04 Apr 1821 Rutherford Hugh L. White Matilda ELDER 23 Feb 1859 Rutherford Benjamin F. Witherspoon Matilda E. ELDER 24 Dec 1847 Rutherford Richard V. Teer Nancy ELDER 19 Feb 1838 Rutherford Elisha Fly Sarah ELDER 24 Dec 1865 Williamson Francis M. Williams Sarah C. ELDER 27 May 1865 Williamson Jim
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: 1910 and 1920 Census Headings
From: "Sharon L. Stasak" <gjslstasak@ameritech.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:44:35 -0500
Linda, Thank you so much. I can give you the headings for the first 25 items in the 1910 Census and will supply the last part when/if someone comes up with them. 1910 Census Headings Street or Road 1. Number of dwellings in house under visitation 2. Number of family in order of visitation 3. Name of each person whose place of abode on April 15, 1910 was in this family. 4. Relationship of this person to head of family. 5. Sex 6. Color 7. Age 8. Single, married, widowed 9. Number of years person married. Mother of how many children 10. Number born 11. Number now living. Nativity - Place of birth of each person and parents of each person enumerated. If born in the United States, give the State or Territory. If of foreign birth, give the Country. 12. Place of birth of person 13. Place of birth of Father of person 14. Place of birth of Mother of person Citizenship 15. Year immigrated to the United States 16. Whether naturalized or alien 17. Whether able to speak English; or if not, give language of person spoken Occupation 18. Trade or profession 19. General nature of industry 20. Whether an employer, employee or working on own. If an employee: 21. Whether or not working as of April 15, 1910 22. Number of weeks out of work in 1910. Educational 23. Whether able to read. 24. Whether able to write. 25. Attended school any time since September 1, 1909. Thanks again, Sharon LEW1991 wrote: > > Sharon I can help with the 1920 census.....7-Home owned or rented; 8-if owned, > free or mortaged; 9-sex; 10 color or race; 11 age at last birthday; 12-single, > married, widowed or divorced; 13-years of immigration to us; 14-naturalized or > ailen; 15 - if naturalized, year of naturalization; 16-attended school anytime > since sept 1, 1919; 17-able to read; > 18-able to write; (person) 19-place of birth; 20-mother tongue; (father) 21- > place of birth; 22-mother tongue > (mother) 23-place of birth; 24-mother tongue; 25-able to speak english; > 26-trade or profession; 27-industry or business; > 28-employer salary or wage worker; 29 number of farm schedule (I guess this > has to do with the right margin notation??) > > The sheet I have for the 1910 census does not have any numbers on it so I > can't help there. > > Linda
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: 1910 and 1920 Census Headings
From: SherDH <SherDH@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 23:05:55 EST
In a message Sharon wrote: << Thank you so much. I can give you the headings for the first 25 items in the 1910 Census and will supply the last part when/if someone comes up with them. >> According to the book "200 Years of U.S. Census Taking: Population and Housing Questions, 1790-1990" published by the US Department of Commerce, here are headings #26-32. Handy book to have! Ownership of Home 26 Owned or rented 27 Owned free or mortgaged 28 Farm or house 29 Number of farm schedule 30 Whether a survivor of the Union or Confederate Army or Navy 31 Whether blind (both eyes). 32 Whether deaf and dumb. Sherry