December 1997 Elder Sharing List Archive


Subject: [Elder-News]: Clarion Co., PA, Gene Website: Major updates
Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER, McMinn County, TN.
Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER, McMinn County, TN.
Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER MEIGS COUNTY, TN.
Subject: [Elder-News]: Meigs County, TN ELDER'S
Subject: [Elder-News]: Meigs Co., TN. ELDER'S
Subject: [Elder-News]: elder
Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER'S OF CAMBRIA CO. PA.
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder-Mills-Todd-Lee families
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder-Mills-Todd-Lee families
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder Deeds
Subject: [Elder-News]: Deeds
Subject: [Elder-News]: Deeds
Subject: [Elder-News]: Deeds
Subject: [Elder-News]: Meigs County, TN. Court Minutes
Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER FAMILY
Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER MARRIAGES
Subject: [Elder-News]: Rhea County, TN. Marriages 1808 - 1845
Subject: [Elder-News]: Notes From Hiawassee Land Records on File At Athens, McMinn County, Tennessee
Subject: [Elder-News]: NOTES FROM HIAWASSEE LAND RECORDS CONTINUED
Subject: [Elder-News]: NOTES FROM HIAWASSEE ETC CONTINUED
Subject: [Elder-News]: Tennessee Elder Marriages
Subject: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:
Subject: [Elder-News]: hi everybody
Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER, Gilbert Wesley; Obituary



Subject: [Elder-News]: Clarion Co., PA, Gene Website: Major updates

From: "Billie R. McNamara" <mcnamara@usit.net>
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:55:09 -0500 (EST)

Hello all!  First, apologies if you get multiple copies of this message.
I've created a mailing alias from all the Clarion County inquiries I've
received, so you may be on there more than once.  Please let me know if that
happens, and tell me your preferred e-mail address.

Now for the big news!

This afternoon, I'll be uploading several new and updated files to the
Clarion County Genealogy Website at
                http://www.public.usit.net/mcnamara/clarion/

The new files should be available after 5 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.

Please enjoy the new information at your leisure.  I'll appreciate any
comments or suggestions, especially identification of broken links.

New sections on school and church history should be added soon.

We could use volunteer help getting the rest of Caldwell's Atlas (1877)
indexed for the Website -- please let me know if you can help.  We can
provide photocopies if you don't have a book available.

If you haven't subscribed to the new Clarion County mailing list, be sure to
do so!  Tell all your Clarion County relatives and correspondents who have
e-mail access!  Subscription instructions are in the new files being
uploaded today.

Here's a run-down of the major items that will be uploaded this afternoon:

-- Military:  lists of Civil War, Spanish-American, and War of 1812 veterans;
        militia history; research links
-- The Underground Railroad in Clarion County
-- Updated queries
-- Lists of biographies and illustrations and several excerpts from Davis'
        History of Clarion County (published 1887)
-- Tons of new links to help researchers
-- Lists of funeral homes, newspapers, libraries, churches, cemeteries, 
        and other resources
-- Suggestions for planning a research trip to Clarion County
-- Updated bibliography
-- List of holdings at the Clarion County Historical Society Library (in
progress)
-- Instructions for subscribing to the new Clarion County genealogy mailing list
-- Updated announcements
-- Updated information about the Clarion County Historical Society and its
programs



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Billie R. McNamara, POB 6764, Knoxville, TN  37914-0764 USA
TNGenWeb 	  http://www.usit.net/tngenweb/
Acuff Archives	  http://www.public.usit.net/mcnamara/archives.htm
Personal Homepage http://www.public.usit.net/mcnamara/

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Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER, McMinn County, TN.

From: "Ann Poe" <elderbrooks@classic.msn.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 97 03:01:14 UT

ELDER, JAMES - WB G 203, 22 Sep 1866.  Invt. And sale by R. A. McADOO, Adm.
WB G 208, Sep 1866.  Comm. S. S. MORGAN, Stephen HILL, and Silas MYNATT lay 
off year's support for widow and family.
WB G 215, 17 Aug 1867.  Sett. and sale by Adm.
CR9 292, 319, 325, 337, Aug to Nov 1867.  Petition for sale of land.  R. A. 
McADOO, and S.W. ROYSTON, Adms. VS Nancy STEPHENSON, Mary DENNIS,  Jacob, 
John, Daniel, Sarah W., Robert, Mark, Lou and Crayton Elder, the last seven 
being minors.  Mary ELDER app. Gdn. Of Craton ELDER, her own minor son.  
Elizia C. ELDER app. Gdn. Of Daniel, John, Sarah, Robert, Loutisia and Mark 
ELDER, her own minor heirs.
CR11  174, 14 Dec 1869.  Sett. by Adm.; payments of various amounts to the 
following unidentified persons:  Eliza C., Mary, Jacob, J. F. and James ELDER, 
Wm. STEPHENSON and wife, M. Denis and wife Eliza C. ELDER as Gdn.  James 
STEPHENSON and wife, James DENIS, M. Dennis, and Mary Elder as Gdn.  WILLS AND 
ESTATE RECORDS OF MCMINN COUNTY TENNESSEE 1820 - 1820, Researched, Compiled, 
and Edited by REBA BAYLESS BOYER, 1966.     Ann      elderbrooks@msn.com

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Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER, McMinn County, TN.

From: "Ann Poe" <elderbrooks@classic.msn.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 97 03:08:56 UT

ELDER, ROBERT - 
CR9  442, 4 May 1868.  Thomas CALDWELL app. Adm.
CR9  352, 6 Jun 1868.  Petition of Jacob ELDER, bro. of Robert, who died bout 
20 Aug 1863 leaving widow Eliza and children Daniel, John FRANKLIN, Sarah 
WILLS, Robert, Mark, and Luticia ELDER, all minors with mother Eliza as Gdn.   
WILLIS AND ESTATE RECORDS OF MCMINN COUNTY, TENNESSEE 1820- 1870, Compiled, 
Researched, and Edited by REBA BAYLESS BOYER, 1966, page 54 (other memos sent 
prior to this one on page 53)aebp

No other Elder's found in that time period in the Will and Estate Records.  
Ann Poe
Elderbrooks@msn.com

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Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER MEIGS COUNTY, TN.

From: "Ann Poe" <elderbrooks@classic.msn.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 97 03:26:51 UT

ELDER,  John M. - Tuesday May 3, 1836, (page 3)- John M. ELDER overseer of 
road from Decatur to Samuel McDonells.

Monday 4 October 1836 (page 38)- John M. ELDER, William HELTON, James CLABO, 
and Joel BROOKS to work their roads to the public square in Decatur.

Tuesday 7 Nov 1836 (page 41)  James W. __ __erman overseer of road in place of 
John M. ELDER.  Source:MEIGS COUNTY, TENNESSEE  COUNTY COURT MINUTE BOOK 1 
(1836 - 1841) TOWN OF DECATUR COMMISSION MINUTES TRUSTEES BOOK OF CLAIMS (1836 
- 1845 - STRAYS TAKEN UP BY RANGER. Abstracted/Transcribed by Bettye J. 
Broyles, Rhea County Historical And Genealogical Society, 1922.   Ann Poe  
elderbrooks@msn.com

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Meigs County, TN ELDER'S

From: "Ann Poe" <elderbrooks@classic.msn.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 97 04:00:40 UT

ELDER, William B. - Monday, 3 May 1841, (page 45)- William B. ELDER overseer 
of road in place of William A. BLEVINS..

ELDER, William B. - SETTLED ALL CLAIMS PAID BY THE COUNTY TRUSTEE FROM THE 8TH 
 OF MARCH 1845 TO THE 3RD  OF MARCH 1846, INCLUSIVE     Mark RENDROW & John 
SEABORN County Commissioners

1204  Daniel CATE	Paid into the hand of Trustee; amount was paid to CATE by 
Wm. B. ELDER						$3.12 1/2

Source: MEIGS COUNTY, TENNESSEE COUNTY COURT MINUTE BOOK 1 (1836-1841)
TOWN OF DECATUR COMMISSION MINUTES TRUSTEES BOOK OF CLAIMS (1836-1845) 
STRAYS TAKEN UP BY RANGER, Abastracted/Compiled by Bettye J. Broyles, Rhea 
County
Historical and Genealogical Society, 1992 (page 75)

Note:  I will share what I have in the books I do have.  Boyer's books are 
particular hard to find.
I believe (someone told me she had retired, she was excellent and a fine 
genealogist)aebp

The information on  John M ELDER is all the information in this Reba Bayless 
Boyer's book.

The information above from Bettye J. Broyles is all the information on Wm B. 
ELDER in this book.aebp 

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Meigs Co., TN. ELDER'S

From: "Ann Poe" <elderbrooks@classic.msn.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 97 04:31:15 UT

ELDER, Robert Sr. among jurors appointed to serve at August term of Circuit 
County (third Monday):  Daniel CATE, ELDER, Robert Sr.

ELDER, Robert Sr. -  Tuesday, 7 June 1836 ) (page 45)-    On bench - Matthias 
SHAVER, John TAFF, and Daniel CATE. (Daniel mentioned as he married Avy Elder 
first child and daugher of Robert ELDER and first wife Sarah MOORE.

ELDER, James - (Found again)- Tuesday, 7 June 1836 (page 25)- William 
W.Helton, overseer of road from Decatur to Athens, portion to McMinn County 
line and to have the following hands:  James Lillard, Thomas Cox, William 
Callaway, James ELDER, Sampson Shaver, Moses Blevins, Jonathan Collins,  John  
Vaughn, John Davis, Henry L Norman, Robert McGinas, Simon McGinas,  John 
Blevinsm and Thomas Blevins. Source: MEIGS COUNTY, TENNESSEE COUNTY COURT 
MINUTE BOOK 1 (1836-1841) TOWN OF DECATUR COMMISSION MINUTES TRUSTEES BOOK OF 
CLAIMS (1836 - 1845) STRAYS TAKEN UP BY RANGER, Abstracted/Transcribed By 
Bettye J. Broyles, Rhea County Historical And Genealogical Society, 1992.  
This book is available anywhere genealogy books can be purchased or 
ordered.aebp  If you need anything from this book I will look it up for you. 
Ann Poe   elderbrooks@msn.com will continue.

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Subject: [Elder-News]: elder

From: denmar1@ix.netcom.com
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 12:16:02 -0600 (CST)

I am looking for  Elders in Michigan???

Mary Del 

KentCOMI      http://www.rootsweb.com/~mikent
HoughtonCOMI  http://www.rootsweb.com/~mihought
KeweenawCOMI  http://www.rootsweb.com/~mikeween

personal sites
http://members.aol.com/RIVETTE/kentindex.html

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Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER'S OF CAMBRIA CO. PA.

From: john <apuabu@redrose.net>
Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 14:42:35 -0800

HI: I am loking for info on elders of cambria co . relatives of james
elder born 1811  +son born 1858 named george.

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder-Mills-Todd-Lee families

From: Augiluth <Augiluth@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:48:33 EST

I was wondering if you might be able to help me confirm what I suspect
about the MILLS and ELDERS.
     James Marion ELDER married sisters (Martha Ann and Mary Jane TODD) of my
ancestor, John TODD, son of Joel TODD and Nancy Ruth LEE.  John married Martha
Ann ELDER, daughter of Francis MILLS and Andrew ELDER.  You indicate that
James Marion ELDER was the son of Lucinda MILLS and Marion ELDER.
     I suspect that Francis and Lucinda MILLS were sisters, and that they
married brothers Marion and Andrew ELDER.  Two of Joel TODD's daughters and
one of his sons married into this group.
     Thanks in advance for any help you might offer on this maze.


The Carthage Gazette (Hancock County, Illinois)
Friday, July 7, 1911
Vol, XLVII -No. 3

     Martha Ann Elder was the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Andrew Elder.  She was
born in Madison County, Kentucky, May 11, 1822, where she grew to womanhood
and where on September 6, 1846, she was united in marriage to John Todd, who
died February 3(sic), 1905.
     After their marriage they resided in Kentucky for a few years, after
which they removed to Missouri, where they resided until December 1865, when
they removed to this state and county.
     To this union nine children were born, five of whom survive as follows:
Dr. J.H. Todd and Mrs M.A. Pace of Maryville, Missouri;  J.E. Todd of
Burnside, this county;  Dr. R.H. Todd of Portland, Oregon;  W.J.(sic) Todd of
Stroud, Oklahoma.
     Following her husband in death, Mrs. Todd made her home with her
children, and it was while on a visit at the home of her son, Dr. J.H. Todd of
Maryville, Missouri, she was seized with the illness that terminated in her
death the 4th, inst.
     The body was shipped to this city and conveyed thence to Denver, where
after funeral services conducted by Rev. W.W. Denham, was laid to rest in the
family plot beside her husband.
     Deceased was a woman beloved by all for many beautiful traits of
character.  She was a Christian in the truest sense of the word, a devoted
wife, a kind and loving mother, and a staunch and obliging friend and
neighbor.  Truly it can be said that in her death, a good, true woman has been
called."

Note:  J.H. Todd is Joel Howard Todd, M.A. Pace is Malissa Ann (Todd) Pace,
J.E. Todd is John Elder Todd, R.H. Todd is Richard Henry Todd, and W.J. Todd
is William Isom Todd.  Other children not mentioned in the obituary were
Lucinda Frances Todd, Charles Lee Todd, Elizabeth Amandiver Todd, and Walter
Grant Todd.

Note:  Martha's husband's obituary gives an even more detailed timeline on the
family's travels between Kentucky, Missouri, and Illinois.

This is about all I know about Martha Ann Elder.  Any assistance in running
her line would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

TJ Todd

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder-Mills-Todd-Lee families

From: Rlaneb1 <Rlaneb1@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:49:47 EST

If Marion and Andrew were brothers, do you know what years they were born,
where they were born and who their parents were? Also do you know what
religion they might have been? I have similar names in my William Elder line.
Thanks. R.Bangsund   rlaneb1@aol.com

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder Deeds

From: "Ann Poe" <elderbrooks@classic.msn.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 97 05:22:31 UT

Vol H (Apr 1806 - Aug 1807)

149 George Doherty, Senior Deed to John and Hugh Henry  24 Feb 1807 - 6 Jan 
1807.
400 acres $150.00  On the north side of French Broad River.  Wit: David ELDER; 
Benjamin Henry. /s/ Geo. Doherty January Term 1807.  Then was the within deed 
acknowledged in court and recorded.  Let it be registered. 
	Test   /s/ J. Hamilton, Clk., by David Barton, D.C.
(the above David ELDER was not part of the Samuel and Hannah Elder family.  
David was born in Lincoln County, NC., owned considerable property in Sevier 
County.  If David ELDER has any ancestor on the news letter please contact me. 
 I have photographs of his first church in the mountains, Cherokee Co., where 
David was the first "preacher" in this dear church.  I have gone back for 
several years it is so dear and the wooded area is beyond words.) Ann 
Elder-Brooks Poe  elderbrooks@msn.com

Source: LAND DEEDS OF JEFFERSON COUNTY TENNESSEE 1792 - 1814, By Boyd J. 
Holdaway 1991 (Order from Southern Historical Press, SC.)

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Deeds

From: "Ann Poe" <elderbrooks@classic.msn.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 97 06:11:51 UT

Vol K (Dec 1811 - Nov1813)

227 Michal WIDNER (Sevier Co.), John ELDER (Sevier Co.), Robert ELDER, and 
William ELDER Bill of Sale to Robert STEPHENSON
18 May 1813  "__" Feb 1813 "____" $300.00
We, Mikel WIDNER, John ELDER, Robert ELDER, and William ELDER, have bargained 
and sold unto Robert STEPHENSON a Negro boy a slave named Isaac, which Negro 
boy slave we do warrant and defend unto Robert STEPHENSON, his heirs and 
assigns forever and for the true performance of the above named.  Wit: Joseph 
SULLINS, /s/ Michal WIDNER; John ELDER; Robert ELDER; William ELDER  March 
Sessions 1813.  Then was the within Bill of Sale proven in open court and 
recorded.  Let it be registered.
	Test		/s/ Jos. Hamilton, Clk.
( I know a couple of the fine people on this Elder news; I am sorry to see 
this particular deed, it is part of the history.  I know of only one other 
slave holder and apparently not for long.  Robert ELDER was a large slave 
owner; to share with others their ancestors and to place them in a time frame  
for it is our past.)aebp

Vol I (Feb 1808 - Aug 1809)

348	James MOORE Deed to Robert ELDER	10 Aug 1809	20 Mar 1809	200acres 	$666.66	
On Dumplin Creek adj. "_______" Alexander.  Test:  Cheeney (Chaney)ap  MOORE; 
Benjamin Aller. /s/James MOORE, July Sessions 1809.  Within deed acknowledged 
in open court by James "______".  Let it be registered. Acknowledged in open 
court by James "______".  Let it be registered. 
		Attest	/s/ J. Hamilton, Clk., by D. Barton, D.C.
( I have the above deed, I will find it and fill in the blanks)Ann

	Vol 3 (Aug 1809 - Sep 1811)

168	Wood Brazeal (Breazerl) Deed to Chainey Moore (Moore)ap   
	"__" Oct 1810	8 Jul 1809	22 acres   $200.00
	On the north bank of French Broad River adj. the foot of the Nobs, John 
SELLERS. Wit: Benjamin Allen; Robert ELDER. /s/ Wood Breazeal  September 
Sessions 1810. Then was the within deed proven in open court and recorded.  
Let it be registered.
		/s/ J. Hamilton, Clk., by Wyly Martin, D.C.
Source: LAND DEEDS OF JEFFERSON COUNTY, TENNESSEE, By Boyd J. Holdaway, 1991. 
(order from Southern Historical Press, SC) Ann elderbrooks@msn.com

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Deeds

From: "Ann Poe" <elderbrooks@classic.msn.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 97 06:34:17 UT

Vol 3 ( Aug 1809 - Sep 1811)

315	Charles CATE Deed to James Larrance (Laurance)	29 Jul 1811	12 Jan 1811
200 Acres $700.00 On the south side of Dumplin Creek opposite to Robert 
ELDER'S house.  Wit: John LARRANCE; Robert CATE; Jeremiah LARRANCE. /s/ 
Charles CATE	July Term 1811.  The within deed was acknowledged in open court 
and ordered to be recorded.  Let it be registered. /s/ Alex. S. Outlaw, Clk., 
by his Deputy, Wly Martin.

Vol K ( Dec 1811 - Nov 1813)

118 Henry CARTER Deed to Robert ELDER
17 Jun 1812	15 Jun 1811	30 acres $200.00	On Dumplin Creek the north side of 
French Broad River adj. John THARP, the Big Road, Mathias WILHITE.  Test: John 
CATE; John THARP; Adam Stroups(?). /s/ Henry CARTER, June Sessions 1812.  
Within deed proven in open court and admitted to record.  Let it be 
registered. /s/ Jos. Hamilton, Clk., by his Deputy, Wyly Martin.

(The names above which have been highlighted have some connection to the 
various CATE/CATES families.aebp

Source:	LAND DEEDS OF JEFFERSON COUNTY TENNESSEE 1792 - 1814, By Boyd J. 
Holdaway, 1991 (Order from Southern Historical Press, SC)  Ann

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Deeds

From: "Ann Poe" <elderbrooks@classic.msn.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 97 07:01:06 UT

Vol K  (Dec 1811 - Nov 1813)

189 Robert ELDER and Michal WIDNER Power of Attorney to James LAURANCE
19 Jan 1813	16 Dec 1812	"______"      "______"	We Robert ELDER and Michal 
WIDNER, heirs of the Estate of Samuel ELDER, deceased, do make, ordain and 
constitute James LAURANCE our sole Power of Attorney to act and do in all 
things belonging to the above mentioned estate as tho we were present 
ourselves to claim, demand, sue and recover a contract and receive our legacy 
in full.  Test:  John LAURANCE; Adam STROUPES. /s/ Michal WIDNER; Robert ELDER 
  December Sessions 1812.  Then was the within Power of Attorney proven in 
court and recorded.  Let it be registered.   Attest	/s/ Jos. Hamilton, Clk.

(the names above, Laurance, Stroupes were involved with the CATE/CATES. Aebp

Vol L ( Dec 1813 - Dec 1814)		

147 James Thompson Bill of Sale to Robert ELDER
21 Sep 1814	13 Dec 1813	"______"  $350.00
Know all men by these presents that I, James Thompson, hath this day sold to 
Robert ELDER a Negro woman named Annica, the age of 28 years a slave, the 
receipt of which I hereby acknowledge and warrant her to be sound and well and 
warrant and defend her from all person or person.  Test:  Charles Kelly; Hugh 
Martin. /s/ James Thompson	December Sessions 1813.  Then was the within Bill 
of Sale acknowledged in open court.  Let it be registered. /s/ Joseph 
Hamilton, Clerk, by his Deputy, Jos. Hamilton, Jr.
Source:	LAND DEEDS OF JEFFERSON COUNTY TENNESSEE 1792 - 1814, By Boyd J. 
Holdaway, 1991 (Order from Southern Historical Press, SC) these deeds are in 
the courthouse in Dandridge TN. the above volume # and the the dates and the 
names "James Thompson to Robert Elder" you can write for a copy of the deed,  
Send your request with S.A.S.E. enclosed and they will return telling you the 
cost, which is still very reasonable and they are very quick to respond. Ann 
Poe  elderbrooks@msn.com

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Meigs County, TN. Court Minutes

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@email.msn.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 22:51:02 -0500

Meigs County, TN. Court Minutes Vol. 1 1836 - 1841

(Related to Elder) - John SNOW appointed to serve on jury of the Circuit
Court for Meigs County - Monday 5th Sept. Sessions 1836.

Robert ELDER - Appointed to serve as a juror in May.  (Wednesday 5th Jan.,
1840)
James ELDER - Named to work on the road leading from Decatur to Athens, from
Decatur to the McMinn County line.  Issued 9 June, 1836.  Wm. W. Helton,
Overseer.

Issued 10 May, 1836 - Ordered by Court a majority of Justices present that
John M. ELDER ________(left blank)aebp
(The above James ELDER was probably Robert James as the James ELDER son of
William ELDER was already in Shelby County, IL)aebp        Ann
elderbrooks@msn.com

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Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER FAMILY

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@email.msn.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 23:02:13 -0500

Elder - Meigs Co., TN. Marriage Records (No Book or Page # given)
ELDER, Nancy    to     William LILLARD    27 Dec 1826*
ELDER, Robert to Minerva RIGHT 4 April 1834  (Robert ELDER son of ROBERT
ELDER was married 3 times)aebp
LILLARD, William to Nancy ELDER     27 Dcember 1820*
ELDER, Robert to Mary Jane BETTIS     3 July 1869

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Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER MARRIAGES

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@email.msn.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 23:11:00 -0500

Index to to Marriages County Book 8 (no other identification)
Chattanooga Courthouse (TN,)

ELDER, J. W.    to Mabel NYE     #302
MARSH, Nettie May(?) to Floye (says "e") G. ROGERS #319
HOWELL, Susie C. to  S. E. DeFREISE #33

Index to Book 13 Quarterly Records
ELDER, J. Will    3 & 48 & 120
Notary Public
ELDER, J. Will  p.163......Ann   elderbrooks@msn.com

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Rhea County, TN. Marriages 1808 - 1845

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@email.msn.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 23:22:47 -0500

Rhea County, Tenn. Marriages 1808 - 1845 Historical Records Project Official
Report No. 165-44-6999 (appears to be a SS#?)ap

DUCKWORTH, John  to    Rebecca SNOW    3 Jan 1832. Beal Gaither JP; Mark
Massey, Bondsman, 5 Jan 1832
LILLARD, William to Nancy ELDER 27 December 1820:BN. Augustine Lillard
LILLARD, William to Nancy ELDER 27 December 1827:Peach Taylor, JP, 28
December, 1826.  (It appears that married at least 3 times)aebp
ELDER, James to Sally Wammack   25 Aug., 1826; Thomas Cox, JP; Jack Wammack,
BN. 25 Aug. 1826
ELDER, John to Mary Vernon  30 Jan 1828; Thomas Cox, JP; Samuel  Igou(?)
BN., 5 Feb 1828
ELDER, Robert to Minervia Right  4 April, 1834; James Wilson, JP; Wm.
Lillard, BN. 6 April 1834.
(duplicates among these marriages sorry. Ann
El

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Notes From Hiawassee Land Records on File At Athens, McMinn County, Tennessee

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 20:18:38 -0500

No. 358 - Knoxville, Nov. 17, 1820. Cert. that Robert ELDER did on 17th day
of Nov., 1820 purchase NE qr. of Sec. No. 10 in Fr. Twn. No. 3 W, in the
Hiawassee District - 160 acres, $537.60.

No. 3605 - Robt. ELDER this day enters as general enterer 59 acres off of
side of SE qr. Sec. 22, Fr. Twn. No. 2, Range 3 W, in the Co. of Rheas, Hia.
Dist. beg. at SE cor. of said qr. 6 July 1827.  I assign the cert. copy to
James ELDER for value rec. of him and witness my hand and seal  this 22 Jan.
1828. Robert ELDER. p.253 Book 6 (James ELDER, son of Robert).

No. 272 - Robert ELDER this day, etc qr. sec. 26, Fr. Twn. 2, Range 3 W in
the County of Rhea, Hiawassee Dist. Beg on SE corner of said qr., 160 acres.
3rd Nov. 1824  Robert ELDER.  For value rec. I assign the within certified
copy to Daniel CATE, this 1st day of Feb. 1827.  Wit. my hand. P. 263, Book
C (Daniel CATE, son-in-law of Robt.  ELDER). Source: Maud Horn's ATCHLEY
FAMILY HISTORY, Second Edition by Dr. Paul L. Atchely and Mary Ann Morris
Thompson, Knoxville, Tennessee, 1965. Chapter VI, p.450.  Ann Poe

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Subject: [Elder-News]: NOTES FROM HIAWASSEE LAND RECORDS CONTINUED

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 20:36:21 -0500

No. 504 - Robert ELDER this day enters, etc. NE qr. Sec. 10, Fr. Twn. 3,
Range 3 W, meridian, County of Rhea, Hiawassee District Beg. at NE corner of
said qr. Dec 6, 1824. 160 acres, Book C, p.262.

No. 1714 - Philip EUBANK this day enters as gen. enterer agreeable to law
the Dist. Beg. at the NW corner of said qr. etc. 5th Nov. 1825. 160 acres.
Grant issued 24 May 1826.

No. 440 - Thomas ATCHLEY this day enters as occupant enterer, etc. NE qr.
Sec. 13, Fr. Twn. 2 Range 3 E of meridian in County of Monroe, Hiawassee
Dist. Beg. at the NE  corner of said quarter, etc. 21st July 1824. Grant No.
1008, issued 9th July 1828.

No. 2134, page 257.  Robert ELDER enters as gen. enterer this day NW qr.
Sec. 4, Fr. Twn. 4, Range 3 W of meridian, County of Rhea, Hiawassee Dist.
Beg. at NW corner said qr. etc. 160 acres. 26 Nov. 1825, I assign to John P.
MAYES, Feb. 28, 1835 grant No. 2994 issued (John ELDER, son of Robert ELDER,
John P. MAYES, relative of EUBANK family, ALL FROM VIRGINIA).

Maud Horn's ATCHLEY FAMILY HISTORY, Second Edition By Dr. Paul L. Atchley
and Mary Ann Morris Thompson, Knoxville, Tennessee, 1965.  Chapter VI, p.
450.

No 2134 above states "ALL FROM VIRGINIA"; Robert Elder on the 1850 & 1860
Meigs Co TN census gives place of birth as Virginia.  We do know that
several of his brothers were born in what would become the state of
Tennessee. Ann Elder-Brooks Poe

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Subject: [Elder-News]: NOTES FROM HIAWASSEE ETC CONTINUED

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 20:52:14 -0500

NOTES FROM HIAWASSEE LAND RECORDS ON FILE AT ATHENS, McMINN COUNTY,
TENNESSEE

Nol 2119 - Robt. ELDER enters NE qr. Sec 3, Fr. Twn. 3, Range 4 W, of
meredian, County of Rhea, 160 acres.  Assigned to James HOWSER 10 Feb. 1826.
Miles VERNON and R. C. Waterhouse enterers SE qr. Sec.9, Fr. Twn. 1, Range 3
W. of meridian, County of Rhea, Hiawassee Dist. Beg. at SE Corner said qr.
etc. 6 Sep. 1825.  160 acres. Assigned to WATERHOUSE. 10 Nov. 1826.
    Certificate that James MOORE did purchase on 17th, SE qr. of Sec. 9 in
Fr. Twn. 3, Range 3 W, Hiawassee Dist. 160 acres, at $3.75 per acre
(father-in-law of Robt. ELDER).  Full amount pd. Oct 1830; Grant issued No.
2187, Sep 5, 1831, p.534, Book A.

No. 2120 - Miles VERNON this day enters as general enterer agreeable to law
SE qr., Sec. 4, Fr. Twn. 3, Range 3 W of meridian in County of Rhea,
Hiawassee District Beg. at SE corner said qr., etc. 24 Nov. 1825. 160 acres.
Grant issued 9 Sep. 1835, No. 2869.

No. 440. - Thomas ATCHLEY, NE qr. Sec. 13, Fr. Twn. 2 Range 3 west of
meridian, County of Rhea, Hiawassee District, July 21, 1824, 160 acres.
Source: Maud Horn's ATCHLEY FAMILY HISTORY Second Edition By Dr. Paul L.
Atchley and Mary Ann Morris Thompson, Knoxville, Tennessee, 1965.
Chapter VI   page 450.    Ann

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Tennessee Elder Marriages

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 22:33:25 -0500

No. 71 - Jefferson Co., TN. Jany. 15, 1882 -  Jas. R. FRENCH, WM 21, Born
Jefferson Co., TN., Farmer, Married by Wm. FRENCH;Wit: Thomas BAILEY JP &
John FRENCH Feb. 24, 1882
Married: Sarah ELDER, WF 17, Born: Jefferson Co., TN.(Daughter of William
Riley & Mary Katharine Douglass ELDER) Source: Book D:8, Dandridge,
Jefferson Co., TN.

No 513 - C. G. ELDER - Oct. 6, 1885 - married by Wm. FRENCH, JP on October
14, 1885, to Lottie FRENCH. (sister of Jas. R. FRENCH above)("C.G. ELDER was
Charles Gillespie Elder, son of William Riley & Mary Katharine (Douglass)
ELDER) Source: about #'s from Jefferson County, Tenn. Courthouse in
Dandridge, TN. (If you need a copy I will send, just address an envelope
please)

Bk. 1:51, No. 504, Jefferson County Courthouse, Dandridge, Tennessee.
William ELDER to Rebeccah CATES, 18 July 1803; Ezekial Lanning, bondsman.(I
still think that Rebeccah CATES was the dau. of Charles CATES Sr., all
circumstantial evidence points in that directions) Ann

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 22:49:08 -0500

Tenn. ELDER'S - Nancy ELDER b. ca 1830; d. ca 1850/51 (IL. or MO.?) were
living in Moultrie Co., IL.  Nancy was the daughter of Samuel  & Henrietta
ELDER, son of William ELDER, son of Samuel ELDER.  Nancy married Carr FRENCH
23 July 1848, Moultrie County, IL. son of William FRENCH, Jr. (I do not know
where the "Jr." came from) & Casindra Cantrell. Carr FRENCH was born in
Jefferson Co., TN.  They lived in Moultrie County, IL., three children
Diadama FRENCH ca 1849, Moultrie Co., IL.
David D. ca 1850, Moultrie Co., IL. and James H.  14th April 1851, Moultrie
County, IL. James H. FRENCH m. twice, Lucinda May Lovins and I cannot read
the second name.  James d. 1 Jan 1927 in Eldorado Springs Cedar MO. buried
same.

Both Carr and Nancy (ELDER) FRENCH seem to have vanished and two of these
children were living with their grandmother, Henrietta Elder on the 1860
census, but I have not found out where Diadama was. I know she lived and
whom she buried, to present day descendants.  It is vague. Carr FRENCH was
half brother of Diadama FRENCH who married James ELDER the first child of
William & Rebeccah (CATES) ELDER.  Diadama was the daughter of William
FRENCH they came from NC to Jefferson Co TN. according the the Elder-Palmer
Bible Records. I do hope this helps, it certainly is confusing. Ann Poe

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:

From: "James C. Elder" <jcelder@mho.net>
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 12:05:31 -0700

James and Diadama (French) ELDER lived in Moultrie Co, IL, circa 1849 until
1861 or later.  James Elder was elected first County Judge of Moultrie Co,
IL, in 1849 and served until 1861.  He also served in the Illinois State
Legislature several years, dates not known.

-----Original Message-----
From: elderbrooks <elderbrooks@msn.com>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Saturday, December 27, 1997 8:53 PM
Subject: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:


>Tenn. ELDER'S - Nancy ELDER b. ca 1830; d. ca 1850/51 (IL. or MO.?) were
>living in Moultrie Co., IL.  Nancy was the daughter of Samuel  & Henrietta
>ELDER, son of William ELDER, son of Samuel ELDER.  Nancy married Carr
FRENCH
>23 July 1848, Moultrie County, IL. son of William FRENCH, Jr. (I do not
know
>where the "Jr." came from) & Casindra Cantrell. Carr FRENCH was born in
>Jefferson Co., TN.  They lived in Moultrie County, IL., three children
>Diadama FRENCH ca 1849, Moultrie Co., IL.
>David D. ca 1850, Moultrie Co., IL. and James H.  14th April 1851, Moultrie
>County, IL. James H. FRENCH m. twice, Lucinda May Lovins and I cannot read
>the second name.  James d. 1 Jan 1927 in Eldorado Springs Cedar MO. buried
>same.
>
>Both Carr and Nancy (ELDER) FRENCH seem to have vanished and two of these
>children were living with their grandmother, Henrietta Elder on the 1860
>census, but I have not found out where Diadama was. I know she lived and
>whom she buried, to present day descendants.  It is vague. Carr FRENCH was
>half brother of Diadama FRENCH who married James ELDER the first child of
>William & Rebeccah (CATES) ELDER.  Diadama was the daughter of William
>FRENCH they came from NC to Jefferson Co TN. according the the Elder-Palmer
>Bible Records. I do hope this helps, it certainly is confusing. Ann Poe
>
>
>
>
>

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 22:09:26 -0500

Hi,
(also James, are you the James I talked with a few years ago or the Jim who
had Jacob Elder?)

Someone on the board either two weeks or two months ago asked about Carr and
Nancy (ELDER) FRENCH.

Nancy Elder who married Carr FRENCH was the daughter of Samuel & Henrietta
ELDER, Samuel ELDER was the brother of the James ELDER (whose wife was
Diadama FRENCH).  Both Samuel & James ELDER were brothers and sons of
William & Rebecca (CATES) ELDER who resided in Jefferson Co., TN.  James &
his wife Diadama (FRENCH) ELDER lived out full and active lives and both are
buried in Greenhill Cemetery, Sullivan, Moultrie Co., IL.

Samuel ELDER and wife Henrietta (maiden name unknown) were in Coles Co.
also.  Samuel died young. Other members of the same immediate family lived
in Moultrie Co IL.

These notes I have on Carr FRENCH and Nancy ELDER are confusing, because I
do not know what happened to them.  They had three children and from the
census it appears that Henrietta ELDER raised the two boys and the first
child and daughter Diadama FRENCH is found on one census only.  She did live
and marry a MONTONYE and they lived in the area. The lady who is looking for
Diadama is either the great-granddaughter, I am not sure which.  But the
mother of this lady was a MONTONYE and her given name was NANCY.

The last paragraph I made a mistake, fourth line: "whom she buried" she read
married.  Sorry.

OK, which James am I talking with plus all the rest of our Elder's?  If
anyone knows about Carr and Nancy (ELDER) FRENCH or Nancy's father Samuel
ELDER, would appreciate knowing more about him.  He was the second child of
William & Rebecca (CATES) ELDER, probably born in Jefferson Co TN just as
his older brother James ELDER an outstanding citizen of Sullivan, Moultrie
Co., IL.  Warner Davis wrote a very nice book about his direct ancestor,
James ELDER above.
Thanks,

Ann  elderbrooks@msn.com


-----Original Message-----
From: James C. Elder <jcelder@mho.net>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Sunday, December 28, 1997 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:


>James and Diadama (French) ELDER lived in Moultrie Co, IL, circa 1849 until
>1861 or later.  James Elder was elected first County Judge of Moultrie Co,
>IL, in 1849 and served until 1861.  He also served in the Illinois State
>Legislature several years, dates not known.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: elderbrooks <elderbrooks@msn.com>
>To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
>Date: Saturday, December 27, 1997 8:53 PM
>Subject: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:
>
>
>>Tenn. ELDER'S - Nancy ELDER b. ca 1830; d. ca 1850/51 (IL. or MO.?) were
>>living in Moultrie Co., IL.  Nancy was the daughter of Samuel  & Henrietta
>>ELDER, son of William ELDER, son of Samuel ELDER.  Nancy married Carr
>FRENCH
>>23 July 1848, Moultrie County, IL. son of William FRENCH, Jr. (I do not
>know
>>where the "Jr." came from) & Casindra Cantrell. Carr FRENCH was born in
>>Jefferson Co., TN.  They lived in Moultrie County, IL., three children
>>Diadama FRENCH ca 1849, Moultrie Co., IL.
>>David D. ca 1850, Moultrie Co., IL. and James H.  14th April 1851,
Moultrie
>>County, IL. James H. FRENCH m. twice, Lucinda May Lovins and I cannot read
>>the second name.  James d. 1 Jan 1927 in Eldorado Springs Cedar MO. buried
>>same.
>>
>>Both Carr and Nancy (ELDER) FRENCH seem to have vanished and two of these
>>children were living with their grandmother, Henrietta Elder on the 1860
>>census, but I have not found out where Diadama was. I know she lived and
>>whom she buried, to present day descendants.  It is vague. Carr FRENCH was
>>half brother of Diadama FRENCH who married James ELDER the first child of
>>William & Rebeccah (CATES) ELDER.  Diadama was the daughter of William
>>FRENCH they came from NC to Jefferson Co TN. according the the
Elder-Palmer
>>Bible Records. I do hope this helps, it certainly is confusing. Ann Poe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:

From: "James C. Elder" <jcelder@mho.net>
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 23:04:10 -0700

Hi Ann (and everyone else)!

To tell you the truth, I'm not sure which I am...I used to live in Silver
Spring, MD, before coming to the Denver, CO, area a couple of years ago.  I
was on Prodigy in the Genealogy Forum from about '91 through '94; also had a
clark.net email address while in the DC area, as well as an msn.com email
address (until I got fed up with being forcefed all the drivel that
Microsoft wanted me to see that I did not want to waste time/money on); and
I kept up with genealogy quite a while on the National Genealogical Society
BBS with the FIDONET messages.

My line is the GA-VA branch that goes (in reverse):

                James Cleveland Elder
                Pelius Waller Elder and Addie Mae Newell
                John Thomas Elder (and first wife, Lucia Lizzie Waller)
                Richard Silas Elder (and first wife, Mary Angeline Davis)
                Thomas George Elder and Eliza Ann Hail
                Joseph M. Elder and Sallie Jacks
                David Elder (and second wife, Polly/Molly Phillips)
                Joseph Elder and Mary Matthews
                William Elder and Ann ? (Travers??)
                Peter Elder Jr. and Elizabeth ?
                Peter Elder Sr. and ??

I've read the Warner Davis book; it was pretty well done.  I have no data on
what happened to Carr and Nancy (Elder) FRENCH.  Maybe someone researching
the FRENCH line can shed some light on that for us.

I monitor the email postings here and in other locations and put in two
cents worth every once in a while, but am so far off the beaten track out
here in Colorado that I haven't much new research finds to contribute.

Hope everyone had a very Merry Christimas this year and is primed for a very
Happy New Year!

Jim Elder

-----Original Message-----
From: elderbrooks <elderbrooks@msn.com>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Sunday, December 28, 1997 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:


>(also James, are you the James I talked with a few years ago or the Jim who
>had Jacob Elder?)
>
>OK, which James am I talking with plus all the rest of our Elder's
>
>Ann  elderbrooks@msn.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: James C. Elder <jcelder@mho.net>
>To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
>Date: Sunday, December 28, 1997 2:12 PM
>Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:
>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: elderbrooks <elderbrooks@msn.com>
>>To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
>>Date: Saturday, December 27, 1997 8:53 PM
>>Subject: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:
>>

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 21:24:31 -0500

Hello James, and all the Elder's

Yes you are the James Elder I corresponded with on Prodigy and you were
always lending someone a helping hand, I thought perhaps you were observing
for awhile!

I know four or more people who go to Joseph ELDER son of William Edmond and
wife Ann.  They are a interesting family.

Warner did only his direct ancestor James and wife Diadama (FRENCH) ELDER,
he knows that family very well.  No, no James I am not a FRENCH, these
family were all related from the days in East Tenn. and apparently carried
that on for awhile.  I know several people who go to Samuel Elder son of
William Elder son of Samuel Elder (all of TN).  No one seems to know what
happened to this particular couple and especially the daughter named
Diadama.  Diadama was with her parents and then the two sons were with their
grandmother on the 1860 census, Diadama about 10 or 11 not found, yet she
did live somewhere and was raised by someone?  Later married a Montoyne.
Thanks for answering and nice to talk with you again.

James what do you know or anyone about the Matthew Elder family?  Thanks,
Ann

Happy New Year to Everyone
-----Original Message-----
From: James C. Elder <jcelder@mho.net>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Monday, December 29, 1997 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:


>Hi Ann (and everyone else)!
>
>To tell you the truth, I'm not sure which I am...I used to live in Silver
>Spring, MD, before coming to the Denver, CO, area a couple of years ago.  I
>was on Prodigy in the Genealogy Forum from about '91 through '94; also had
a
>clark.net email address while in the DC area, as well as an msn.com email
>address (until I got fed up with being forcefed all the drivel that
>Microsoft wanted me to see that I did not want to waste time/money on); and
>I kept up with genealogy quite a while on the National Genealogical Society
>BBS with the FIDONET messages.
>
>My line is the GA-VA branch that goes (in reverse):
>
>                James Cleveland Elder
>                Pelius Waller Elder and Addie Mae Newell
>                John Thomas Elder (and first wife, Lucia Lizzie Waller)
>                Richard Silas Elder (and first wife, Mary Angeline Davis)
>                Thomas George Elder and Eliza Ann Hail
>                Joseph M. Elder and Sallie Jacks
>                David Elder (and second wife, Polly/Molly Phillips)
>                Joseph Elder and Mary Matthews
>                William Elder and Ann ? (Travers??)
>                Peter Elder Jr. and Elizabeth ?
>                Peter Elder Sr. and ??
>
>I've read the Warner Davis book; it was pretty well done.  I have no data
on
>what happened to Carr and Nancy (Elder) FRENCH.  Maybe someone researching
>the FRENCH line can shed some light on that for us.
>
>I monitor the email postings here and in other locations and put in two
>cents worth every once in a while, but am so far off the beaten track out
>here in Colorado that I haven't much new research finds to contribute.
>
>Hope everyone had a very Merry Christimas this year and is primed for a
very
>Happy New Year!
>
>Jim Elder
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: elderbrooks <elderbrooks@msn.com>
>To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
>Date: Sunday, December 28, 1997 8:15 PM
>Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:
>
>
>>(also James, are you the James I talked with a few years ago or the Jim
who
>>had Jacob Elder?)
>>
>>OK, which James am I talking with plus all the rest of our Elder's
>>
>>Ann  elderbrooks@msn.com
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: James C. Elder <jcelder@mho.net>
>>To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
>>Date: Sunday, December 28, 1997 2:12 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:
>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: elderbrooks <elderbrooks@msn.com>
>>>To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
>>>Date: Saturday, December 27, 1997 8:53 PM
>>>Subject: [Elder-News]: Someone wrote asking about these two:
>>>
>
>
>

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Subject: [Elder-News]: hi everybody

From: Darren Elder <shark@sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 22:52:11 -0600

this is just great i sat down to find family history and poof an elder
page cool

i am located in canada and very interested in talking with all of you
about our history
i really don't know very much about my family history but i am sure i
will learn with the information at my finger tips

looking forward to your responses

until later

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Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER, Gilbert Wesley; Obituary

From: "James C. Elder" <jcelder@mho.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 22:15:28 -0700

     The following obituary appeared in the Rocky  Mountain News for Saturday, December 27, 1997, of Denver, Colorado: Ý "GILBERT WESLEY ELDER, 67, of Colorado  Springs died Dec. 17.Ý Mr. Elder was born in Syracuse, Kan., on May 20,  1930.Ý He worked at a flea market.Ý He was a member of the Eagle Pikes  Peak Aerie 143.Ý Survivors include daughter Roe Jean Beenders of New  Jersey, Gaylene French of Nebraska; brothers Darl and Dwight, both of Aurora  [Colorado]; four grandchildren." Ý Recommend that other readers/contributors post  ELDER family obituaries appearing in other newspapers around the country,  too.Ý This would help all of us to keep our data current and, possibly,  provide data not previously known. Ý Jim Elder

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