August Sharing List

August 1996 Elder Sharing Mail List


Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996
To: elder-news@intrepid.net
From: fanfare@intrepid.net (Donna Younkin Logan)
Subject: [Elder-News]: RE: Updates Needed... Posting earlier
Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net

Dear friends,

If you have already posted your line to the Elder-News Sharing list you might want to send your query for the newsletter to me at the "fanfare" address...

fanfare@intrepid.net

of course we have new members of the sharing list who might not have seen it before if you posted it quite a while ago.

But please try to keep it in "Query" format which means 1-2 paragraphs similar to:

I am searching for my great-grandfather Eric ELDER, born about 1876 in Cambria Co, PA, married Josephine JONES about 1897 in Somerset Co, PA. Children were: Mark, Sarah, Susan, Michael, etc. They died in Wood Co, OH in the early 1920s. Need Eric's parents and siblings. --- name, address, phone, e-mail address of submitter.

ALSO - I plan to take these two issues to the printer on Wednesday, August 7th, so please get them in by Monday.

You might have noticed that we have changed the format of the mailings for Elder-News -- you will now see at the beginning of each Subject line the words:

[Elder-News]:

and you'll know from whence it came.

.... Thanks for all your patience....

- donna


Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996
To: fanfare@intrepid.net
From: snow@caribnet.net (Steve/Betty Snow)
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: updates needed


We are seeking Mary Jane ELDER (@1842, TN -1930, Lawrence Co, AR)She is buried in Snow Cem, Lawrence Co, AR. Mary Jane ELDER @ 1857 in Lawrence Co, AR m George W. SNOW (12 Jun 1836, Hamilton Co, TN-28 Sep 1876, Tiptonville, Lake Co, TN, bur Cronansville Cem) Soon after 1876, she married Bill BOTTOM. Please help us find Mary Jane's parents and siblings.

Mary Jane might be hiding in one of these 1850 TN Census records. I need help of other researchers so that I can identify and eliminate. Hope she is here, if not, where should I look?
David ELDER 35, Matilda 35, James 10, George 7, Mary ?, William 4, Thomas 3, Lucey 1, Va.Va, Gi 48-621 or
Robert ELDER, 70, Mary 40, William 17, Sarah Ann15, Emaline 14, Mahala7, Clarissa 5, Amanda 3, Martha 1, VA,VA, Me-432-768 or
William ELDER 34, Mary A. 28, Andrew W., 9, Mary A. 7, Elizabeth P. 3, Ja?e 1, AL, AL, Ms 513-126 or
Priest ELDERS 38, Moses 14, Louisa 13, Mary 9, Wm 1 TT Bo-345-51)


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stephen R. Snow and Betty Snow
U.S. Embassy, Bridgetown
FPO AA 34055-0002

e-mail: snow@caribnet.net (Please no zipped files.) fax: 809-429-5246 (Please use snail mail unless agreed otherwise.) phone: 809-436-5637


From: GOLFOGEY@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996
To: elder-news@intrepid.net
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: updates needed
Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net

Hi Donna--

You said there are 40 new members--- how many total is that now? I admire you for being able to stay up with all of the info that you must receive. Will send my query soon.

Regards, Sandy


From: Ben Domenici BDomen@sisna.com
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 96
To: fanfare@intrepid.net
Subject: Elder genealogy
X-Info: SISNA

Dear Donna,

Would you please include my Elder lineage on your membership listings.

1-Charlotte Elder Domenici, 2-Orville Wesley Elder, Carroll Co. Missouri, 3-Louis Floyd Elder, Carroll Co., Mo. 4-John Louis Elder, Carroll Co., Mo. 5-John Elder, Cumberland (now Monroe) Kentucky, 6-Peter Elder (1767), Surry Co., North Carolina died 10 Apr 1840, Rives (now Henry Co.,) Missouri,7-Peter Elder (1741) Richmond Co., Va., 8-Peter Elder born 21 May 1715 Richmond Co., Va. 9-William Elder (1688) Essex Co., Va. 10- Peter Elder, Jr. (1653) Essex Co., Va. 11-Peter Elder (1630) possibly Scotland, died by 5 Aug 1674, Rappahannock (now Essex Co) Va.

Sincere thanks,

Charlotte Lee Elder Domenici
member #265


Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 11:41:09 +0100
To: 22astroarch@aol.com (Dick Walker)
From: glm2@email.psu.edu (Gary L. Messing)
Subject: Samuel Elder
Cc: fanfare@intrepid.net (Donna Younkin Logan)

Dear Dick,
Here is briefly the information I found which is part of what I am putting in the mail today.
John Elder and Betsey Corson had 8 children: Samuel m. Jane Mortimore, Nancy, Polly Jane Mortimer (probably her married name) and 5 others who died before 1887. From Will Bk A p. 104 Clarion Co. Courthouse, wife, Mary, sons Joseph and Samuel, daughters, Eliza Elder & Martha Carson. (It's funny that Nancy and Polly are not mentioned, although it is then still possible that Margaret "Peggy" could still be one of the unnamed children. She also disappears from any records between the 1850 and 1860 census recording. Her last child was born Dec 1851. George, however, in his will of Feb 1865 to my wife, Mary ??????) John came in 1807 40 rods east of Oak Grove School, Licking Twp, Clarion Co. He was born about 1767 PA and d. 10-19-1851. 1850 PA census, Toby Twp, Clarion Co, lives with Samuel and Jane. I have included hand transcribed records from the census with my comments about possible relationships. I tried to make these as dark as possible since they are written in pencil, but then it picked up the writing from the page of the page. I would be happy to recieve a copy of your line and merge it with mine when find the connection. Talk to you soon,
Becky Messing


Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996
To: GOLFOGEY@aol.com
From: fanfare@intrepid.net (Donna Younkin Logan)
Subject: [Elder-News]: Re: Nancy Ann Elder
Cc: elder-news@intrepid.net
Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net

At 7:13 PM 8/6/96, you wrote:

>Hello Donna---

>I can't thank you enough for pointing out those coincidences to me regarding my Nancy Ann Elder and others. I missed the Gullison, Knox Co., IL completely in some of the correspondence that I have been accumulating over the years. I have a problem sometimes in that I can't walk and chew gum at the same time!!! (That's a joke.) Or I'm so close to the forest that I can't see the trees!!!

>I spent all last evening going over all of the pertinent correspondence that I have, and I'm convinced that my Nancy Ann Elder is the immediate older sister of Cornelius Dempsey
>Elder. Therefore, her parents must be Robert Elder and Mary ______.

>You found the link that I've been missing. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!

>My best regards, Sandy


Let us all know how it all plays out Sandy, it's been a long time for you!

- donna


Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996
To: elder-news@intrepid.net
From: fanfare@intrepid.net (Donna Younkin Logan)
Subject: [Elder-News]: Query
Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net

Interested in parents of David J. ELDER, born TN 18 Sep 1852; married Mary GILBREATH 10 Sep 1875 Columbia Co, TN; later resided near Columbia, Hickman Co, KY.

If you are interested in this query and the submitter, please send me a note and I will forward their name and address.

- donna


Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996
To: elder-news@intrepid.net
From: Vicki Burnham vburnham@mail.wsu.edu
Subject: [Elder-News]: James&Hannah Elder, ILL, IN
Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net

I am searching for any information on James and Hannah Elder, He was born in Indiana in 1831 and Hannah was born in Illinois in 1833. I Know they lived in Illinois because great-grandmother was born there in 1863 and her name was Ada Elder. James and Hannah died in Dayton WA, James in 1907 and Hannah in 1910. Ada also died in dayton, WA (her married name was Ada May) in 1936. I would like to find out if they had more children and what happened to them. Also I would like to know the names of James and Hannah parents, and Hannah's Maiden name. Thanks! vburnham@mail.wsu.edu


Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996
To: elder-news@intrepid.net
From: fanfare@intrepid.net (Donna Younkin Logan)
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: James & Hannah Elder, ILL, IN
Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net

Hi Vickie,

Dayton appears to be in Columbia County today, and Everton's "Handy Book for Genealogists" states it was formed in 1875 (from Walla Walla County). According to this same book the Columbia County Clerk has birth and death records from 1891 to 1907. The Address for Columbia County Courthouse is 341 E. Main St., Dayton, WA 99328.

After 1907 the State Department of Health, Bureau of Vital Statistics [General Administration Building, Olympia, WA 98501] has these records.

If you have not already tried this I would suggest writing to the Columbia County Courthouse and obtaining the death certificate for James - quite often these certificates (even older ones) contain the deceased person's parent's names (and possibly where they were born). You will need write to the State level for Hannah's since she died in 1910.

This would be the easiest way to obtain their parent's names.

Hope this helps

Donna


At 12:57 PM 8/8/96, you wrote:

>I am searching for any information on James and Hannah Elder, He was born in Indiana in 1831 and Hannah was born in Illinois in 1833. I Know they lived in Illinois because great-grandmother was born there in 1863 and her name was Ada Elder. James and Hannah died in Dayton WA, James in 1907 and Hannah in 1910. Ada also died in dayton, WA (her married name was Ada May) in 1936. I would like to find out if they had more children and what happened to them. Also I would like to know the names of James and Hannah parents, and Hannah's Maiden name. Thanks! vburnham@mail.wsu.edu


Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996
To: elder-news@intrepid.net
Subject: [Elder-News]: Query 394-4
From: gmorrison@pipeline.com (Gary Morrison)
Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net

This is a partial answer to Query 394-4: Nancy asked if Robert ELDER, Jr. and Rachel McKINNIS ELDER died after moving to Wapello County, Iowa (they appear there in the 1860 census but are gone by 1870).
Rachel Elder (Mrs. R.) 1809 to 8/2/1867 appears on a headstone in Baer Cemetery located in section 7 Soap Creek Township, Davis County, Iowa near the town of Ash Grove.
Davis County is the county immediately south of Wapello County. Two of his children, namely Alexander Johnson ELDER (m Marcia Jane BAKER) and Lineas ELDER (second wife Harriett SMALES), were living in Davis County in 1870 census.
Alexander is my gg grandfather.
What happened to Robert? Did he remarry? Did he move from the state? That is unknown to me at present.
Hope this much is helpful at least.
--

Gary Morrison
722 SE Peterson Drive
Ankeny, Iowa 50021-3468
gmorrison@usa.pipeline.com
Researching BAKER, COGHLAN, DAHLSTROM, DODD, ELDER, FARR, FORSYTH(E), FUNK, McKAY, MORRISON, ROBERTSON, SEXTON, SIDWELL, THARP, WATERHOUSE, ZIMMERMAN


Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 18:26:45 -0400
From: Steve Elder Spitbird@innova.net
To: elder-news@intrepid.net
Subject: [Elder-News]: Wisdom
Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net

Dear All,

I was wondering as I was sitting here one night writing in my journal, does any one have access to any journals written by "our" family. In writing my journals it was my hope that someday they may be useful to my children or grandchildren. Is there any wisdom that can be shared by anyone out there? I would be interested in reading any journals that anyone would care to share. Thanks, Steve Elder Spitbird@ innova.net


To: Elder-News@intrepid.net
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 96
From: Jane Jurik jane@mailhost.accesscom.net
Subject: [Elder-News]: Tennessee Elders
Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net

I am seeking info on the parents & family of Catherine Elder b. 7 Jan 1830 in TN.

Catherine married Daniel L. Jones (b. 9 May 1826, TN) in TN. They had nine children, of which at least the first 7 were born in Knoxville, TN. The eldest, my gggrandmother, Malissa Emeline Jones b. 13 Jul 1848 followed by Nancy Kate b. 9 Nov 1850, Jertha b. 18 Apr 1854, John Henry b. 23 Jan 1859, William Ira b. 10 Mar 1860, Martha Elizabeth b. 2 Nov 1865 and Rebecca Rinda b. 22 Jul 1868.

The family moved to Wamego, Pottawatomie, KS in 1869 where they, along with other families, founded the First Baptist Church so they may also have been active in the Baptist Church in the Knoxville area.

Catherine Elder Jones died 1 Apr 1893 in Wamego, KS where she is buried.

Anyone have information about this family?


Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996
To: elder-news@intrepid.net
Subject: [Elder-News]: Robert Elder, Sr., Jackson County, Ohio
From: gmorrison@usa.pipeline.com (Gary Morrison)
Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net

I am descended from Robert Elder, Sr., Jackson County, Ohio, through the son Robert Elder, Jr.
I remember Donna saying that it is thought this Elder line came out of Northumberland County, Penn. While at the Iowa Genealogical Library last night I found the following information: Pennsylvania Archives, Third Series, Volume 19 Northumberland County, Buffaloe [sic] Township page 416 1778-1780 State Tax
Thomas Elder valuation 70.17.0
page 456 1781 Assessment
Corlenius Dempsy [sic] 50 acres 1.2.11 tax page 515 1782 Supply Tax
Cornelius Dempsey 50 acres 17.9 tax
page 689 1785 State Tax
Thomas Elder 1 cattle .9 tax

I find this interesting since a Dempsey witnessed the will of Robert, Sr. Also, one or his children is named Cornelius Dempsey Elder.

Further, in the 1820 Clinton Township, Jackson County, Ohio census, page 143, Thomas and Robert Elder are next door neighbors. Thomas 2 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1
Robert 1 1 0 0 0 1 3 1 3 0 1 0 2

Who is Thomas Elder? Is Thomas Elder in Ohio Robert's brother? Is Thomas in Pennsylvania the same Thomas or the father of both Thomas and Robert or is there no connection at all?

Sandy -
Received your snail mail today - have not had a chance to read it yet. Thank you. I am not aware of any pertinent Elder book. I will be on the lookout and post it if I do.
--

Gary Morrison


Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996
To: elder-news@intrepid.net
From: fanfare@intrepid.net (Donna Younkin Logan)
Subject: [Elder-News]: Nichols IOWA Elder line
Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net

Is anyone in our group working on an Elder line in Nichols, Muscatine, Iowa. We were there last week (quick trip), and finding a number of Elders in the cemetery I went ahead and shot photos of the oldest stones. We also bought the town's Centennial History with some biographies of this ELDER family in it. If anyone is interested, will be glad to make copies of the photos and history.

- donna


From: MOMXFIVE@prodigy.com (MS LAUNA JEAN MAIKOWSKI)
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996
To: elder-news@intrepid.net
Subject: [Elder-News]: Tennessee Elders
Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net

Hi Couzen !, I am from another Elder Branch in Tn. (Greeneville, Greene County) Our branch started off in Cooke County, Ga. (Athens) We also have alot of "John Henry's" Greeneville is located 60 miles east of Knoxville. I'm sorry I don't have information on what you are looking for, but I thought this might interest you.
Launa


To: elder-news@intrepid.net
From: Murchison murch@emeraldcoast.com
Subject: [Elder-News]: Eleanor Elder
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996
Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net

Eleanor Elder was the oldest child of Wyche Jenkins Malone Elder and Mary Jane Burt. She married Yancy Manning Satterwhite and moved to Randolph County, Alabama. Yancy was killed during the Civil War and the last record I have of Eleanor was that she was still living in Ranldoph County in 1870 with some of the children. According to family researchers, she died in August 1872. Does anyone know where she was buried or have any additional information on her. I know that the younger children were sent to live with various relatives after she died.

Linda Murchison
murch@emeraldcoast.com


From: BANDJLANE@aol.com
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996
To: elder-news@intrepid.net
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Tennessee Elders
Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net

Hi.
Thanks for your information = never know when something is going to link up. Happy hunting.
Beth Lane


Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996
Mime-Version: 1.0
To: elder-news@intrepid.net
From: fanfare@intrepid.net (Donna Younkin Logan)
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Wisdom
Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net

Hi Steve,

I am aware of "at least" one Journal authored by an ELDER gentleman - Joseph B. ELDER (of a Pennsylvania line). I published some of it in one of the EFN back issues. Some of the information in it helped several of the descendants find their way back into the family tree. If you enjoy reading journals you might want to write to the family members in this line as they republished it a number of years ago and might still have copies around. If so, let me know and send you their addresses.

- donna

PS - if it weren't for the family Journals (so to speak) that some of my ancestors wrote, I probably never would have been interested in genealogy to begin with. They are my greatest treasure thanks to my grandmother for saving them. Even the silly story about my gggrandfather coming from his Hamburg,Iowa homestead to the ancestral home in Pennsylvania and seeing "rainbow trout" for the first time in his life! With trout streams all around me, it isn't hard to imagine his wonder.

At 6:26 PM 8/19/96, you wrote:

>Dear All,

>I was wondering as I was sitting here one night writing in my journal, does any one have access to any journals written by "our" family. In writing my journals it was my hope that someday they may be useful to my children or grandchildren. Is there any wisdom that can be shared by anyone out there? I would be interested in reading any journals that anyone would care to share. Thanks, Steve Elder Spitbird@innova.net