Elder Sharing Mail List, Apr, May, Jun 1999


Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER / MALAIER/MELEAR of GA
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder Family
Subject: [Elder-News]: Joshua Elder
Subject: [Elder-News]: Susan V.
Subject: [Elder-News]: AOL users - HELP!
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: AOL users - HELP!
Subject: [Elder-News]: Thomas, Robert, James & John Elder - Northumberland Co., PA
Subject: [Elder-News]: Internet Message
Subject: [Elder-News]: David Elder and Margery Stewart
Subject: [Elder-News]: Greetings
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Greetings
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Greetings
Subject: [Elder-News]: delurking with info on Antrim, Coshocton and Monroe County lineage
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: delurking with info on Antrim, Coshocton and Monroe County lineage
Subject: [Elder-News]: hello!
Subject: [Elder-News]: My Virginia Elders, Robert, back to Edmund...
Subject: [Elder-News]: Peter Elder, Jr. 1600's Richmond, VA
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Peter Elder, Jr. 1600's Richmond, VA
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Peter Elder, Jr. 1600's Richmond, VA
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Peter Elder, Jr. 1600's Richmond, VA
Subject: [Elder-News]: samuel b elder
Subject: [Elder-News]: samuel b elder
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Peter Elder, Jr. 1600's Richmond, VA
Subject: [Elder-News]: Sarah Y. JOHNSON in house of John S. ELDER VA
Subject: [Elder-News]: Aargh!
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Peter Elder, Jr. 1600's Richmond, VA
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Peter Elder, Jr. 1600's Richmond, VA
Subject: [Elder-News]: Samuel Elder
Subject: [Elder-News]: James Elder & Elizabeth Scott
Subject: [Elder-News]: James Elder & Elizabeth Scott
Subject: [Elder-News]: James Elder - Chowan Co, NC
Subject: [Elder-News]: Ruth Elder
Subject: [Elder-News]: Who can Identify and Inform about these...?
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Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder news
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Subject: [Elder-News]: research
Subject: [Elder-News]: Ruth Elder
Subject: [Elder-News]: Oliver Elder and Martha Jones' Issue?
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: research
Subject: [Elder-News]: Nancy Elder
Subject: [Elder-News]: Nancy Elder
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Nancy Elder
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Nancy Elder
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Nancy Elder
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Nancy Elder
Subject: [Elder-News]: Lee
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Subject: [Elder-News]: Lee
Subject: [Elder-News]: John Elder, Campbell County
Subject: RE: [Elder-News]: John Elder, Campbell County
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder news
Subject: [Elder-News]: John Elder
Subject: [Elder-News]: Son of John son of Joseph ELDER
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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Son of John son of Joseph ELDER
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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: John Elder, Campbell County
Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder News
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Subject: [Elder-News]: Thomas Elder
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Subject: [Elder-News]: Re:Joyce J. Slaton
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re:Joyce J. Slaton
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re:Joyce J. Slaton
Subject: [Elder-News]: sources
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Thomas Elder
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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re:Joyce J. Slaton
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Subject: [Elder-News]: An ELDER



Subject: [Elder-News]: ELDER / MALAIER/MELEAR of GA

From: Starr <starr81@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:13:30 -0500

	Pam Giles sent me the following message which I'm passing on to
you. Pam isn't on this list, but I'll be happy to forward messages; OR 
you can write her directly at:     pgiles@west.ga.net    

I am hoping you can help me with a problem that I have trying to find the
parents of an orphan family member. I am looking for information on the
parents of Harriet A. Malaier born Nov. 1861. She was adopted ( May not be
legal adoption) by Young Gray and Annie Elizabeth Malaier Gray (b Jan 25,
1847 d. July 05, 1920)
I believe Annie Elizabeth Malaier to be the daughter of Martha Adeline
Elder(b. 1818) and William Pendelton Malaier. You state that Martha A.
Elder, child of Joshua Elder and Anne E. Gray, married Pendelton Malaier.

Do You know anything about any of the children of William Pendelton Malair and
Martha A. Elder. I have their children, and I believe the only one who
could have fathered Harriet Malaier by dates is John W. Malaier who was b
Dec. 07, 1841 and died Oct 19, 1864 ( presumably in the Civil War), but I
can't find any proof of this. 

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder Family

From: Lee Elder <elder@wcc.net>
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 13:09:49 -0500

Hi Pam:

My family started with Peter Elder in Norfolk VA. in the 1650's.
I have Pendelton Malaier who Married Martha Elder in my computer with
the following children:
John Wesley Malaier who died in Civil War  and I have 05-06-1864, in the
batle of the Wilderness. He was 18 in the 1860 census.
David D. Malaier and he was 16 in the 1860 Census
Elizabeth A. Malaier and she was 15 in the 1860 census .
Nancy A. Malaier and she was 7 in the 1860 cnesus Possible twin with
William and she was 17 in the 1870 censuis.
William P. Malsier and he was 7 in the 1860 census and 17 in the 1870
census
possible twin of Nancy.

I don't have anything on Harriet A. Malaier who was born in Nov. 1861

I have over 25,000 names in my Elder Directory if you need any more
information on the Elder family.
Sincerely;
Lee M. Elder

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Joshua Elder

From: Bob Elder <bobelder@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:10:05 -0400

Can anyone identify for me the parents of Joshua Elder? He was
	born about 1795 in VA (census records)
	married Lydia Etter 1824 in Rutherford Co., TN (marriage record)
	died about 1885 in the same county (court and land records)
Thank you.

Bob Elder

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Susan V.

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:31:30 -0400

Susan,

Where are you, would like to hear from you. Hi all you Elder's.

Ann P.

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Subject: [Elder-News]: AOL users - HELP!

From: Dan Elder <dan.elder@fbcvidalia.org>
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:41:48 -0400

Help Elder clan!  I have recently received several e-mail notes from AOL folks through the Grayson County KY story posted on the family web site.  Some of these folks seem to have relevant information on the family and all have desired replies.  Yet my return messages are always rejected by AOL because "the addressee is not accepting messages" from my account.

Is there any way around this?   I suspect that none of the AOL users knows this happening, but they all think I'm not interested in their information or am too snooty to answer.

Is there another way to reply to them?

					Thanks.	:-)



-		Dan Elder

-Reply:	dan.elder@fbcvidalia.org

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: AOL users - HELP!

From: Lee Elder <elder@wcc.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:05:24 -0500

Hi Dan:
Yes you can reply directly to them through their email address.
Lee

Dan Elder wrote:

> Help Elder clan!  I have recently received several e-mail notes from AOL folks through the Grayson County KY story posted on the family web site.  Some of these folks seem to have relevant information on the family and all have desired replies.  Yet my return messages are always rejected by AOL because "the addressee is not accepting messages" from my account.
>
> Is there any way around this?   I suspect that none of the AOL users knows this happening, but they all think I'm not interested in their information or am too snooty to answer.
>
> Is there another way to reply to them?
>
>                                         Thanks. :-)
>
> -               Dan Elder
>
> -Reply: dan.elder@fbcvidalia.org

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Thomas, Robert, James & John Elder - Northumberland Co., PA

From: LEW1991@aol.com
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:10:12 EDT

Below is some information and sources pertaining to Thomas, Robert, James & 
John Elder of White Deer Township, Northumberland Co. Pa.  I'm looking for 
additional information for James Elder, Northumberland Co.  

The Annals of Buffalo Valley, Pennsylvania 1755-1855 Collated by John Blair 
Linn
references Thomas Elder of Northumberland County a number of times.  On page 
179 Thomas Elder has rented pew No. 31 of the Buffalo Cross-Roads 
Presbyterian Church with David Buchanan and Robert Elder (1791).  

On page 306 Thomas Elder is listed as an inhabitant of White Deer Township 
(1796).  This indicated he was a school master with a cabin, stable, and 
corn-crib.  James Elder is also listed as residing in White Deer Township and 
it appears that he may live with Thomas.

On page 332 (1802) Robert Elder is listed as a resident of East Buffalo 
Township, Northumberland Co. and that he lives on John Kelly's place.

Thomas Elder had a son who John participated in the Rev. War and the 
following pension file appeared in the Elder Family Newsletter, Vol. 3 #2, 
(April, May, June 1995) Page 19.

"John Elder--Mary. Pension Record #w24117, Pennsylvania Line.  Soldier was a 
son of Thomas Elder and was born in 1762 in Chester Co. PA and lived in White 
Deer Valley in Northumberland (later Union)  Co. PA at enlistment.  It stated 
after his service soldier went to Chester Co. PA until the close of the Rev. 
War then returned to Northumberland Co. (Union Co) and about 1814 he moved to 
Centre Co. PA and he applied there 29 April 1834.  He died 19 Jan 1835 at 
Salona in Centre Co. PA.  He married Mary "Polly" (or Molly) Dougherty on 7 
Nov 1793 at soldier's father Thomas Elder's home in Whitedeer Twp. PA.  She 
was born Nov 1766 and died 30 or 31 Dec 1848.  Children listed were: Margarit 
or Peggy born 7 Jul 1794 and she married a Thompson & in 1839 she was living 
in Holmes Co. OH.  James born 22 Nov 1795. John born 14 Apr 1797, Thomas born 
20 Oct. 1798, one name torn off record was born 13 Jan 1804, Robert born 2 
Nov. 1807, William no birth date, Mary no birth date but she married a John 
Wilson, Ann no birth date but she married a George Walters and the oldest 
child shown was Joshua born 18 Mar 1793 the name of his mother wasn't given.  
The widow died leaving 5 children: Margaret Thompson, James Elder, Ann 
Walters or Waltors, William Elder and Mary Wilson.  The son, James Elder, 
made application 23 Feb 1852 at Clearfield Co. PA and was a resident of Bell 
Twp. PA."

[Source: "Genealogical Abstracts of Revolutionary War Pension Files" Vol 1 
A-E: abstracted by Virgil D. White. the National Historical Publishing 
Company, Waynesboro, TN 1990. Submitted by Bob Datzell Member #155]


Linda Kelley J¸nker

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Internet Message

From: CDGG47A@prodigy.com (MRS MARY H COLE)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:33:20, -0500

Hi Linda 

Thanks for your information - it will certainly help

More information on the 1st Thomas Elder of Buffaloe Township, 
Northumberland Co, Pa

Franklin County, Pa - Deed Book 4 - page 528 & 529
29 Apr 1786
Thomas Elder of Buffaloe township, Northumberland Co, Pa
for five shillings - sold his right title---- interest property claim 
and
demand whatso ever of in and to a certain Application Number 4442
dated 30th Sept. 1767 for 150 acres of land in Tuscacora Valley
James Elders surveyed land.
to and he names them (heir of George & Margaret (?Elder) McConnell
------------------------

I believe James mentioned is son of Robert 1st & Eleanor Elder
and the brother of Rev. John Elder among others.

I suspect Thomas is one of James' sons, I suspect Margaret wife
of George McConnell is Thomas' sister and a daughter of James.
This would have been by James' 1st wife and not Elizabeth Maips
(James' second wife)

In Apr 1757, there was a Thomas Elder in Cumberland Co (part of
which later became Franklin Co) 


Mary Cole
   CDGG47A@Prodigy.com

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Subject: [Elder-News]: David Elder and Margery Stewart

From: larry young <shelty48@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 14:01:55 -0700 (PDT)

Hi,

I'm looking for anyone that has been to the cemetery in Dry Run, PA
where David Elder and Mary Elder are buried?

I'm planning a trip there soon and would like to talk with someone who
has been there to get a feel for the area.



Larry D. Young
_________________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Greetings

From: Lee Elder <elder@wcc.net>
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 11:34:25 -0500

Hi everyone:

This is Lee M. Elder and I am writing to let you know that I will be in
Ruidoso, NM.
for the next four months.  I will have my computer with me but will have
a different email address.  I will let you know lwhen I get it set up.
Any correspondence
should be sent to my address in Ruidoso.  Thanks. It will be about May
11, before I get it set up  in Ruidoso, NM.
Have a good summer.
Lee

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Greetings

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 22:14:49 -0400

Lee,

Don't you forget to write, please and you both have a wonderful summer.

Ann Elder-Brooks Poe
-----Original Message-----
From: Lee Elder <elder@wcc.net>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Friday, May 07, 1999 12:45 PM
Subject: [Elder-News]: Greetings


>Hi everyone:
>
>This is Lee M. Elder and I am writing to let you know that I will be in
>Ruidoso, NM.
>for the next four months.  I will have my computer with me but will have
>a different email address.  I will let you know lwhen I get it set up.
>Any correspondence
>should be sent to my address in Ruidoso.  Thanks. It will be about May
>11, before I get it set up  in Ruidoso, NM.
>Have a good summer.
>Lee
>
>

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Greetings

From: Jan Wallace <jwallace@flash.net>
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 06:18:37 -0500


Lee Elder wrote:

> Hi everyone:
>
> This is Lee M. Elder and I am writing to let you know that I will be in
> Ruidoso, NM.
> for the next four months.  I will have my computer with me but will have
> a different email address.  I will let you know lwhen I get it set up.
> Any correspondence
> should be sent to my address in Ruidoso.  Thanks. It will be about May
> 11, before I get it set up  in Ruidoso, NM.
> Have a good summer.
> Lee

Hey Lee...that's such a nice place to go, I'm jealous.  Have a nice summer
and don't forget to write to us.  Jan  Wallace     jwallace@flash.net

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Subject: [Elder-News]: delurking with info on Antrim, Coshocton and Monroe County lineage

From: jessie <jessie@sd.cybernex.net>
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 00:09:05 -0500

Hello everyone!

I ran across the website for this list a couple of days ago while idly
doing a web search for Ruth Elder, the famous aviator, because that is
my name as well.  I do not do genealogy but do have an interest in my
family history so I took the time to read some of the postings and
signed up for the mailing list.

Now, after working my way through the *entire* archive from 1996 to Dec.
1998, I believe I have some information that might be useful in
answering some queries that were posted.

Because the information is rather extensive and I am not trained in
genealogy, what I've done is set up a page at my website at fortunecity,
where you can read about the lineage of my family of Elders, starting
with John arriving in Antrim County, Ireland in 1680 and going through a
number of sidebranches that clustered in western PA, Coshocton Co., OH
and Monroe Co., IA., plus little tidbits about South Carolina, Oregon
and Quebec.

In particular, I am wondering if my information will be useful (or at
least of some interest) to the following people:

Gary Schnell, who was looking for Samuel Elder, b. 1790;

Charlie Gjersvik, who was interested in Scottish Elders in Ireland;

Ben Holt, who was looking for Scotch-Irish Elders who emigrated to South
Carolina, although my clue might be too late by 30 years to apply to
this question;

Lacedonde, who was looking for Mathew Elder, who moved to Quebec prior
to 1842;

David Howard, who was looking for Samuel Elder born late 1600's and
pondering about a possible brother John, born 1690;

SewDivine (aka Judith Elder Bowers-Kruse), who is descended from John
Elder, born 1690, Antrim Co. (me too!) and is working on the Henry Elder
lineage;

Karen Crawford, who wondered if Samuel Elder of Antrim and Robert Elder,
founder of the Paxtang line could have been brothers (um, don't think so
but I'm no authority);

Doug McLaughlin and Alana Francis, who are part of the Oregon branch of
my lineage.

Rodney Elder, who seems to be working on this lineage;


Now before anyone gets their hopes up, *please* understand that the
information I am providing is not presently verified in any way by
official records.  This is information found in a family history written
in 1909 for the benefit of the author's children.  I have no idea where
the facts were gathered from, and my best guess would be from family
bibles I have no knowledge of.  There may be mistakes all through this
information, I have no way of knowing.  I cannot help you verify the
data.  I can however provide what information I possess and hope it will
provide some clues to information that is "official" or "provable" or
whatever you call it.  :)

The family history also contains anecdotes about these lives that you
might find of interest.  Please contact me privately if you need more
information of this sort.

Here's the URL:

http://westwood.fortunecity.com/farhi/469/elder.htm

Well, this is getting awfully long.  I hope I haven't violated any
unspoken list or genealogical rules here <G>, just wanted to get what
info I possess out where someone might be able to use it.

Enjoy! and if it helps any, I'd be thrilled to hear about it!

Jessie (aka Ruth Elder)

jessie@sd.cybernex.net

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: delurking with info on Antrim, Coshocton and
Monroe County lineage

From: "Kenneth D. Elder" <kelder@mindspring.com>
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 08:48:47 -0500

Hi Ruth.  My name is Ken Elder and I have a "cousin" named Tom Elder in
Dallas that has extensive info on Ruth Elder including copies of old news
film thats available from archives in Washington.  I also am a pilot and of
course related to her and him ( eighth generation ).  He seems to have a lot
of really good info genealogically also that he has copied for me. I advised
him to look at this web site, but he probably hasnt had time. I will be glad
to obtain his email and share it with you.
Ken Elder

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Subject: [Elder-News]: hello!

From: jessie <jessie@sd.cybernex.net>
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 09:19:14 -0500

Hi Ken!

thanks for the offer of the info on Ruth Elder, the pilot.  that's very
kind of you, but it really was just an idle search on the web and not a
real interest of mine as i have no evidence that she was actually a
relative of mine.  there is nothing on my web page about her, so perhaps
your cousin won't be interested.

thanks again!

Jessie (aka Ruth)

Kenneth D. Elder wrote:
> 
> Hi Ruth.  My name is Ken Elder and I have a "cousin" named Tom Elder in
> Dallas that has extensive info on Ruth Elder including copies of old news
> film thats available from archives in Washington.  I also am a pilot and of
> course related to her and him ( eighth generation ).  He seems to have a lot
> of really good info genealogically also that he has copied for me. I advised
> him to look at this web site, but he probably hasnt had time. I will be glad
> to obtain his email and share it with you.
> Ken Elder

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Subject: [Elder-News]: My Virginia Elders, Robert, back to Edmund...

From: Vincent Edward Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu>
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 23:57:47 -0400

Here are my Elder males:  From Newest to Oldest known...

Ida Kate Elder (died 1969) m. George H. Davis Rockbridge Co.
d/o Robert C. Elder, Jr. m. Nannie Jane Little Rockbridge Co.
s/o Robert C. Elder, Sr. m. Sarah Ann Terrell Campbell Co.
s/o John S. Elder m. Eliza A. ?  (John born Petersburg, apparently.)
s/o Daniel E. Elder m. Jemima Williams Dinwiddie Co.
s/o Edmund Elder ???

Any connection folks?

Vince

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Peter Elder, Jr. 1600's Richmond, VA

From: Vincent Edward Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu>
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 00:05:20 -0400

At last, I seem (with the intense help of others) to have traced back
from my wife, through her grandmother, Ida Kate Elder Davis, through
Robert C. Elder, Jr., her father, through Robert C. Elder, Sr., through
John S. Elder, through Daniel E. Elder, through Edmund Elder, through
William Elder, back to Peter Elder, Jr.

I have some info on all of these, but I can use all the info anyone can
spare to tighten up connections, add dates and siblings, complete names
of spice (spouses?), and go back further.

If there was a Jr., then there had to be a senior!  I may so enter just
the name Peter Elder, Sr.

Also, there was a guardian for Edmund's children, Stephen Williamson,
for which I seem to have found a scant bit of data on the LDS site.
Can anyone tell me more about how he got those children, or, why?

Also, I can use all county references, such as county of marriage or
of birth, or of death.

Thanks for this sweeping request.  A tidbit or two would make me very
happy...

Vince

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Peter Elder, Jr. 1600's Richmond, VA

From: DennisE16@aol.com
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 10:31:08 EDT

Vince,

You can find out more about Peter Elder at the Elder Surname website: 
http://www.intrepid.net/genealogy/elder/

Edmond isn't my line, but here's a few tidbits I've picked up:

Thomas Elder, who died in 1853 in Bedford County, listed his parents as 
Edmond and Sally Elder of Dinwiddie County. That same death record puts 
Thomas' birth in 1773.

"Land Records, Dinwiddie County, Virginia, 1752-1820," by Thomas P. Hughes 
Jr. and Jewel B. Standefer, includes:

"Elder, Edmund (Edmond) Estate - 1787-1798 taxed on 200a."

"Rather, Jessee - 1797 taxed on 35a conv by Edmund Elder"

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Peter Elder, Jr. 1600's Richmond, VA

From: Bob Elder <bobelder@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 14:09:49 -0400

Vince,

Here's a sight that gives lots of information on descendants of Peter Elder.

http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/e/l/d/Dennis-S-Elder/GENE2-0001.html

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Peter Elder, Jr. 1600's Richmond, VA

From: Vincent Edward Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu>
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 19:12:42 -0400

Thanks very much for this post.  I will do as you advise, and check my
data also!

Vince

DennisE16@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Vince,
> 
> You can find out more about Peter Elder at the Elder Surname website:
> http://www.intrepid.net/genealogy/elder/
> 
> Edmond isn't my line, but here's a few tidbits I've picked up:
> 
> Thomas Elder, who died in 1853 in Bedford County, listed his parents as
> Edmond and Sally Elder of Dinwiddie County. That same death record puts
> Thomas' birth in 1773.
> 
> "Land Records, Dinwiddie County, Virginia, 1752-1820," by Thomas P. Hughes
> Jr. and Jewel B. Standefer, includes:
> 
> "Elder, Edmund (Edmond) Estate - 1787-1798 taxed on 200a."
> 
> "Rather, Jessee - 1797 taxed on 35a conv by Edmund Elder"

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Subject: [Elder-News]: samuel b elder

From: Bob and Diane Elder <elder@presys.com>
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 16:28:46 -0700

Does anyone have the complete list of the children of Samuel and Mary
Elder?  What are your sources?  This Samuel was born 1758 in Hanover,
Dauphin, PA.  This Samuel was the son of Samuel B. and Mary Robnson
Elder. Samuel B. born 1734 in Paxtang, Lancaster, Pa.  His mother was
Mary Robinson born 1736 Londonberry Twp., Dauphin, PA.  Thank you.

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Subject: [Elder-News]: samuel b elder

From: CDGG47A@prodigy.com (MRS MARY H COLE)
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 20:35:32, -0500

I know very little about this family all I have

33. Samuel b. 1734 d. 13 Apr 1813 - Mary Robinson, res. Maryland
           121. Samuel
           122. John

Sorry not much help

Mary Cole
   CDGG47A@Prodigy.com

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Peter Elder, Jr. 1600's Richmond, VA

From: Vincent Edward Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu>
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 23:08:49 -0400

I really must thank you for this.  It is a big help!  I have gone to
the site and benefited greatly.

Vince

DennisE16@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Vince,
> 
> You can find out more about Peter Elder at the Elder Surname website:
> http://www.intrepid.net/genealogy/elder/
> 
> Edmond isn't my line, but here's a few tidbits I've picked up:
> 
> Thomas Elder, who died in 1853 in Bedford County, listed his parents as
> Edmond and Sally Elder of Dinwiddie County. That same death record puts
> Thomas' birth in 1773.
> 
> "Land Records, Dinwiddie County, Virginia, 1752-1820," by Thomas P. Hughes
> Jr. and Jewel B. Standefer, includes:
> 
> "Elder, Edmund (Edmond) Estate - 1787-1798 taxed on 200a."
> 
> "Rather, Jessee - 1797 taxed on 35a conv by Edmund Elder"

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Sarah Y. JOHNSON in house of John S. ELDER VA

From: Vincent Edward Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu>
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 23:55:13 -0400

Folks...

It is amazing how much more you can milk out of a collection of data if
you just look closely enough at it.

I have John S. ELDER, who married twice... Eliza A. ?, first; Martha
JOHNSON second.  Martha was much younger than John.  Possibly there was
a shortage of men at the time, and... Martha was getting a touch older
(about 30).  At any rate, in the 1870 census, there is included in the
household, Sarah Y. Johnson aged 23, and Martha Johnson Elder, aged 45.
That makes Sarah Y., likely, a daughter from a first marriage, and thus
still another reason for Martha to marry an older man.

That also makes me think, in view of the infrequence of names beginning
with Y... especially given-type names, that the Y may possibly have 
been the maiden name of Martha, herself.

Young immediately pops into mind, but there are others.

Does anyone have an inkling if Martha JOHNSON was originally Martha
YOUNG, or somesuch, and remarried, to John S. ELDER?

Vince

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Aargh!

From: Vincent Edward Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu>
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 09:26:16 -0400

Someone sent me to the great ELDER page, and I thought I had bookmarked
it, and closed it, and what an idiot!  I had not bookmarked it at all!

Would someone please tell me where that was again?

Thanks.  Have mercy on a fool!

Vince

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Peter Elder, Jr. 1600's Richmond, VA

From: "Doug McLaughlin" <Dougm@localaccess.com>
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 07:16:26 -0700

This is probably what you were looking for Vince
-----Original Message-----
From: Vincent Edward Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Saturday, May 29, 1999 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Peter Elder, Jr. 1600's Richmond, VA


>I really must thank you for this.  It is a big help!  I have gone to
>the site and benefited greatly.
>
>Vince
>
>DennisE16@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Vince,
>>
>> You can find out more about Peter Elder at the Elder Surname website:
>> http://www.intrepid.net/genealogy/elder/
>>
>> Edmond isn't my line, but here's a few tidbits I've picked up:
>>
>> Thomas Elder, who died in 1853 in Bedford County, listed his parents as
>> Edmond and Sally Elder of Dinwiddie County. That same death record puts
>> Thomas' birth in 1773.
>>
>> "Land Records, Dinwiddie County, Virginia, 1752-1820," by Thomas P.
Hughes
>> Jr. and Jewel B. Standefer, includes:
>>
>> "Elder, Edmund (Edmond) Estate - 1787-1798 taxed on 200a."
>>
>> "Rather, Jessee - 1797 taxed on 35a conv by Edmund Elder"

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Peter Elder, Jr. 1600's Richmond, VA

From: Vince Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu>
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 10:31:09 -0400 (EDT)

YUP!  Thanks.
Vince

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Samuel Elder

From: Lee Elder <elder@trailnet.com>
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 09:51:46 -0500

I have a Samuel Elder b. 1734 d. 10-21-1830 in MD and wife was Mary
Robinson
They had a son Samuel Elder Jr. b. 1758
They had a son John Elder

Samuel Elder Jr. had a son named Joseph Robinson Elder b. 1801  d. 1825
They alson had a son named Samuel Elder III.  he was accidentaly drowned
at a young age.

Samuel Elder, Sr. His father was Robert Elder Jr. and Mother was
Elizabeth Tomson

This is all that I have on this family.
Lee M. Elder

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Subject: [Elder-News]: James Elder & Elizabeth Scott

From: Volchek <dragonlair@spacey.net>
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 11:16:32 -0400

Does anyone know to which family of Elders the James Elder who married
Elizabeth Scott on August 23, 1764 in Chowan County, NC belongs?

Jean K.

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Subject: [Elder-News]: James Elder & Elizabeth Scott

From: Volchek <dragonlair@spacey.net>
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:03:07 -0400

This was just something I ran across while searching through the GENWeb
Archives on the Internet and was curious about.  I don't know anything
more about them or Chowan Co., NC.  Looking through the Elder site
archives, I didn't see them mentioned so I wondered if anyone knew of
them.

Jean K.

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Subject: [Elder-News]: James Elder - Chowan Co, NC

From: CDGG47A@prodigy.com (MRS MARY H COLE)
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 12:41:25, -0500

Sorry, I don't know -  but I am interested.

Is this marriage the first record an Elder in Chowan County, NC?

>Does anyone know to which family of Elders the James Elder who 
married
>Elizabeth Scott on August 23, 1764 in Chowan County, NC belongs?

>Jean K.
------------------------------------
Mary Cole
   CDGG47A@Prodigy.com

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Ruth Elder

From: Lee Elder <elder@trailnet.com>
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 15:32:35 -0500

Hello Ken and Jessie:
I have Ruth Elder in my fmaily Genealogy.  I have her picture and story
about her flight to Europe. She was married six times. Her father was
Oscar Elder, a brother to my Grandfather, Samuel Elder. I would like to
correspond with both of you to see
how we connect in the family.
We are in Ruidoso, NM. at the present time but I have a new web site
here and can receive email. We stay up here in the cool mountains about
four months during the summer. We live in San Angelo, Tx. and my email
there is elder@wcc.net.
Up here in Ruidoso until October 10th it will be elder@trailnet.com..
Would love to hear from you Ken and Jessie.
ONe of your cousins.
Lee M. Elder

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Who can Identify and Inform about these...?

From: Vincent Edward Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu>
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 22:11:39 -0400

Here is info I received On an Elder family.  Can anyone fill in the 
blanks, or add info on these names?  Thanks, Vince...

Here is my info from the 1850 Census:

Hiram Elder   29   Farmer
Sarah A. (sorry, can't read age.  failed to check on screen.)
Eliza A.       5
Thomas (C?)    1

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Who can Identify and Inform about these...?

From: Jim Golden <jgolden1@planttel.net>
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 22:19:05 -0400

Hiram is the son of Oliver Elder of Campbell County, VA.  His wife is
Sarah A. Williams.   Is the Census for Campbell or Charlotte County?

Vincent Edward Summers wrote:

> Here is info I received On an Elder family.  Can anyone fill in the
> blanks, or add info on these names?  Thanks, Vince...
>
> Here is my info from the 1850 Census:
>
> Hiram Elder   29   Farmer
> Sarah A. (sorry, can't read age.  failed to check on screen.)
> Eliza A.       5
> Thomas (C?)    1

--
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============================================================
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                                    oooO            (       )
                                   (        )             )    /
                                     \    (              ( _ /
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Footsteps in  the  Sands of Time!
Researching:
Golden-Shipp-Lee-Plymale-Bickley-Biggs-Foster-Boyd-Wier-Nichols
Oak-McNeil-George-Dean-Henson-White-Campbell-Lowrey-Benge-Adams-Smith
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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Who can Identify and Inform about these...?

From: Vincent Edward Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu>
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 22:56:27 -0400

Thank you.  That answered my question.  It is a side branch and not the
one I thought.  Unless Eliza A. is the Eliza A. who was married to 
John S. Elder of Campbell...
I think Campbell was the census.

Vince

Vince

Jim Golden wrote:
> 
> Hiram is the son of Oliver Elder of Campbell County, VA.  His wife is
> Sarah A. Williams.   Is the Census for Campbell or Charlotte County?
> 
> Vincent Edward Summers wrote:
> 
> > Here is info I received On an Elder family.  Can anyone fill in the
> > blanks, or add info on these names?  Thanks, Vince...
> >
> > Here is my info from the 1850 Census:
> >
> > Hiram Elder   29   Farmer
> > Sarah A. (sorry, can't read age.  failed to check on screen.)
> > Eliza A.       5
> > Thomas (C?)    1
> 
> --
> Jim Golden  --  Tifton, GA   --  The Friendly City
> ============================================================
> GOLDENGOLDINGOLDINGGOULDENGOULDINGOULDINGGOLDENGOLD
>                                                          Oooo
>                                     oooO            (       )
>                                    (        )             )    /
>                                      \    (              ( _ /
>                                        \ _ )
> Footsteps in  the  Sands of Time!
> Researching:
> Golden-Shipp-Lee-Plymale-Bickley-Biggs-Foster-Boyd-Wier-Nichols
> Oak-McNeil-George-Dean-Henson-White-Campbell-Lowrey-Benge-Adams-Smith
> Phillips-Allen-Christison-James-Cathey-Mills-Pemberton-Branson-Etc.

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Who can Identify and Inform about these...?

From: Vincent Edward Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu>
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 23:00:37 -0400

Yikes!  It is the wife of John S. Elder, if age is accurate.  Or else
a live in companion, through loss of family.  Hmmm.  How old was Sarah
in comparison to Hiram, please, or, in other words, do you have dates?

Thanks!

Vince

Jim Golden wrote:
> 
> Hiram is the son of Oliver Elder of Campbell County, VA.  His wife is
> Sarah A. Williams.   Is the Census for Campbell or Charlotte County?
> 
> Vincent Edward Summers wrote:
> 
> > Here is info I received On an Elder family.  Can anyone fill in the
> > blanks, or add info on these names?  Thanks, Vince...
> >
> > Here is my info from the 1850 Census:
> >
> > Hiram Elder   29   Farmer
> > Sarah A. (sorry, can't read age.  failed to check on screen.)
> > Eliza A.       5
> > Thomas (C?)    1
> 
> --
> Jim Golden  --  Tifton, GA   --  The Friendly City
> ============================================================
> GOLDENGOLDINGOLDINGGOULDENGOULDINGOULDINGGOLDENGOLD
>                                                          Oooo
>                                     oooO            (       )
>                                    (        )             )    /
>                                      \    (              ( _ /
>                                        \ _ )
> Footsteps in  the  Sands of Time!
> Researching:
> Golden-Shipp-Lee-Plymale-Bickley-Biggs-Foster-Boyd-Wier-Nichols
> Oak-McNeil-George-Dean-Henson-White-Campbell-Lowrey-Benge-Adams-Smith
> Phillips-Allen-Christison-James-Cathey-Mills-Pemberton-Branson-Etc.

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Who can Identify and Inform about these...?

From: Jim Golden <jgolden1@planttel.net>
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 09:52:53 -0400

Have no dates on Sarah A. Williams.  Who is John S. Elder?

Vincent Edward Summers wrote:

> Yikes!  It is the wife of John S. Elder, if age is accurate.  Or else
> a live in companion, through loss of family.  Hmmm.  How old was Sarah
> in comparison to Hiram, please, or, in other words, do you have dates?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Vince
>
> Jim Golden wrote:
> >
> > Hiram is the son of Oliver Elder of Campbell County, VA.  His wife is
> > Sarah A. Williams.   Is the Census for Campbell or Charlotte County?
> >
> > Vincent Edward Summers wrote:
> >
> > > Here is info I received On an Elder family.  Can anyone fill in the
> > > blanks, or add info on these names?  Thanks, Vince...
> > >
> > > Here is my info from the 1850 Census:
> > >
> > > Hiram Elder   29   Farmer
> > > Sarah A. (sorry, can't read age.  failed to check on screen.)
> > > Eliza A.       5
> > > Thomas (C?)    1
> >
> > --
> > Jim Golden  --  Tifton, GA   --  The Friendly City
> > ============================================================
> > GOLDENGOLDINGOLDINGGOULDENGOULDINGOULDINGGOLDENGOLD
> >                                                          Oooo
> >                                     oooO            (       )
> >                                    (        )             )    /
> >                                      \    (              ( _ /
> >                                        \ _ )
> > Footsteps in  the  Sands of Time!
> > Researching:
> > Golden-Shipp-Lee-Plymale-Bickley-Biggs-Foster-Boyd-Wier-Nichols
> > Oak-McNeil-George-Dean-Henson-White-Campbell-Lowrey-Benge-Adams-Smith
> > Phillips-Allen-Christison-James-Cathey-Mills-Pemberton-Branson-Etc.

--
Jim Golden  --  Tifton, GA   --  The Friendly City
============================================================
GOLDENGOLDINGOLDINGGOULDENGOULDINGOULDINGGOLDENGOLD
                                                         Oooo
                                    oooO            (       )
                                   (        )             )    /
                                     \    (              ( _ /
                                       \ _ )
Footsteps in  the  Sands of Time!
Researching:
Golden-Shipp-Lee-Plymale-Bickley-Biggs-Foster-Boyd-Wier-Nichols
Oak-McNeil-George-Dean-Henson-White-Campbell-Lowrey-Benge-Adams-Smith
Phillips-Allen-Christison-James-Cathey-Mills-Pemberton-Branson-Etc.

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder news

From: Lee Elder <elder@trailnet.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 10:39:11 -0500

Hi Everyone:
I have a Hiram Elder who married  Sarah Ann Williams m. 12-13-1842 in
Halifax, VA.  Hiram's second wife was Elizabeth Betty Walne m.
11-29-1855 and had one son Robert Lafayette Elder.

Jim Golden, I have a Nancy Elder b. 1763 married Joel Biggs in
04-07-1783 in Brunswick Co., VA.  I have quite a few pages of this
family in my
Elder family directory.  I would be glad to send you a copoy of what I
have if it would help you in any way.
Lee M. Elder

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder news

From: Jim Golden <jgolden1@planttel.net>
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 15:16:47 -0400

Hi Lee,
Welcome back!  Thanks for the offer on the Biggs info but that's what I
sent you a couple of years ago.  You printed out a copy for me after you
had it imputted and I inserted it into my Elder book.  Regards,

Jim

Lee Elder wrote:

> Hi Everyone:
> I have a Hiram Elder who married  Sarah Ann Williams m. 12-13-1842 in
> Halifax, VA.  Hiram's second wife was Elizabeth Betty Walne m.
> 11-29-1855 and had one son Robert Lafayette Elder.
>
> Jim Golden, I have a Nancy Elder b. 1763 married Joel Biggs in
> 04-07-1783 in Brunswick Co., VA.  I have quite a few pages of this
> family in my
> Elder family directory.  I would be glad to send you a copoy of what I
> have if it would help you in any way.
> Lee M. Elder

--
Jim Golden  --  Tifton, GA   --  The Friendly City
============================================================
GOLDENGOLDINGOLDINGGOULDENGOULDINGOULDINGGOLDENGOLD
                                                         Oooo
                                    oooO            (       )
                                   (        )             )    /
                                     \    (              ( _ /
                                       \ _ )
Footsteps in  the  Sands of Time!
Researching:
Golden-Shipp-Lee-Plymale-Bickley-Biggs-Foster-Boyd-Wier-Nichols
Oak-McNeil-George-Dean-Henson-White-Campbell-Lowrey-Benge-Adams-Smith
Phillips-Allen-Christison-James-Cathey-Mills-Pemberton-Branson-Etc.

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Who can Identify and Inform about these...?

From: Vincent Edward Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu>
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 18:41:03 -0400

Here are my Elders from Peter Sr., through John S., and on up to my
wife.

Vince

Jim Golden wrote:

 Who is John S. Elder?



Descendants of Peter Elder, Sr.


Generation No. 1

1.  PETER1 ELDER, SR. was born Abt. 1620, and died August 05, 1674 in
Old Rappahannock County, Virginia.

Notes for PETER ELDER, SR.:
AFN: NM7V-HV  

The Book:  Genealogy of the Elder Clan, compiled by Lee M. Elder
(elder@wcc.net), begins with info such as this:

This extensive book begins with Peter Elder who, according to family
tradition, came to America in the early 1600s along with two brothers.
Though no records of their immigration have been found, they are said to
have landed in Norfolk, Virginia.  Peter came over as a stowaway and
working out his passage with a rich merchant, it required several years.
His brothers later went on to other parts of the country. One to
Maryland and one to Ohio and then on to Harrisburg, Pa," continues the
rich family history.

  Peter's Will, probated 1674 in Rappahannock, Virginia (now Essex Co),
named only one child, Peter, who was "bequeathed" to the child's
godfather Richard Peacock until "my son comes to be one and twenty-four
years of age."

 Many descendants of Peter Elder are brought down to present time in
this 177-page softbound book. In addition to the descendants chart (with
23,000 names), there are 35 pages of families narratives, deeds, wills
and other information on this early Virginia Elder family.

 

The cost of the book is $35 pp, and can be ordered from:

Lee M. Elder
1636 Utah Avenue
San Angelo, TX 76904-7147
	
Child of PETER ELDER, SR. is:
2.	i.	PETER2 ELDER, JR., b. Bet. 1663 - 1670, Richmond County, Virginia;
d. Bef. 1687.


Generation No. 2

2.  PETER2 ELDER, JR. (PETER1) was born Bet. 1663 - 1670 in Richmond
County, Virginia, and died Bef. 1687.  He married ELIZABETH Bef. 1687 in
Rappahannock, Virginia.  She was born 1666 in Richmond County, Virginia,
and died Bef. July 06, 1741 in Richmond County, Virginia.

Notes for PETER ELDER, JR.:
Submitters of Ancestral File material up to about Edmund, father of
Daniel E. Elder...

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Additional data from
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/e/l/d/Dennis-S-Elder/GENE2-0001.html
	
Child of PETER ELDER and ELIZABETH is:
3.	i.	WILLIAM3 ELDER, b. Bet. 1680 - 1688, Virginia; d. April 25, 1754,
North Farnham Parish, Richmond, Virginia.


Generation No. 3

3.  WILLIAM3 ELDER (PETER2, PETER1) was born Bet. 1680 - 1688 in
Virginia, and died April 25, 1754 in North Farnham Parish, Richmond,
Virginia.  He married ANN Abt. 1710.  She was born Abt. 1692 in Richmond
County, Virginia.

Notes for ANN:
AFN:JCP2-V7
	
Children of WILLIAM ELDER and ANN are:
	i.	ELIZABETH4 ELDER, b. September 04, 1712, Richmond County, Virginia;
d. Abt. June 07, 1762, Richmond County, Virginia.
	ii.	PETER ELDER, b. May 21, 1715, Richmond County, Virginia; m. AMADINE
HAMMOND, Abt. 1737; b. 1719, Richmond County, Virginia.

Notes for AMADINE HAMMOND:
AFN: 19NM-LMC

	iii.	WILLIAM ELDER, JR., b. October 08, 1717, Richmond County,
Virginia.
	iv.	SARAH ELDER, b. July 18, 1718, Richmond County, Virginia.
4.	v.	JOHN E. ELDER, b. November 25, 1723, Richmond County, Virginia; d.
Abt. 1792.
5.	vi.	EDMUND/EDMOND ELDER, b. August 21, 1727, Richmond, Virginia; d.
October 10, 1789, Dinwiddie County, Virginia.
	vii.	CHARLES ELDER, b. May 31, 1729, Richmond County, Virginia.

Notes for CHARLES ELDER:
Entry on Family Treemaker says born May 30, not 31st.

	viii.	RUTH ELDER, b. May 19, 1730, Richmond County, Virginia.
6.	ix.	JOSEPH ELDER, b. September 06, 1731, Richmond County, Virginia;
d. Abt. September 08, 1800, Campbell County, Virginia.
7.	x.	MARY ANN ELDER, b. September 07, 1733, Richmond County, Virginia.
8.	xi.	WINIFRED/WINNEFRED ELDER, b. September 07, 1733, Richmond County,
Virginia.
	xii.	EPHRIAM/EPHRAIM ELDER, b. Bet. 1735 - 1736, Richmond County,
Virginia; d. Abt. 1800, Campbell County, Virginia; m. MARTHA MATTHEWS,
July 16, 1787, Campbell County, Virginia.
	xiii.	THOMAS ELDER, b. November 11, 1721, Richmond County, Virginia.


Generation No. 4

4.  JOHN E.4 ELDER (WILLIAM3, PETER2, PETER1) was born November 25, 1723
in Richmond County, Virginia, and died Abt. 1792.  He married MARY.  
	
Children of JOHN ELDER and MARY are:
	i.	JEREMIAH5 ELDER, d. Abt. January 12, 1801, Brunswick County,
Virginia.
	ii.	KERIAH ELDER.
	iii.	? ELDER.

5.  EDMUND/EDMOND4 ELDER (WILLIAM3, PETER2, PETER1) was born August 21,
1727 in Richmond, Virginia, and died October 10, 1789 in Dinwiddie
County, Virginia.  He married (1) ?.    He married (2) SALLY.  

Notes for EDMUND/EDMOND ELDER:
Of Dinwiddie County, VA.
There is an Edmund Elder in the Virginia Personal Property Records dated
April 1782 in Dinwiddie County, Virginia.- Cindy Utterback.

Dinwiddie Co., VA.. Order Book 1789-1791, 10-19-1789, Stephen Williamson
appointed guardian for Robert Elder and Daniel Elder orphans of Edmund
Elder deceased.

Note:  There is, on LDS Online, a listing for a Stephen Williamson of
Dinwiddie County, as being born abt. 1730.

Listed as Christened 21 Aug 1727 North Farnham Parish, Richmond, VA.
IGI Batch Number C505381
----------------
Here is a lookup from:  DennisE16@aol.com from the email list:
elder-news@intrepid.net :

Thomas Elder, who died in 1853 in Bedford County, listed his parents as 
Edmond and Sally Elder of Dinwiddie County. That same death record puts 
Thomas' birth in 1773.

"Land Records, Dinwiddie County, Virginia, 1752-1820," by Thomas P.
Hughes 
Jr. and Jewel B. Standefer, includes:

"Elder, Edmund (Edmond) Estate - 1787-1798 taxed on 200a."

"Rather, Jessee - 1797 taxed on 35a conv by Edmund Elder
-----------------

Notes for ?:
This may or may not have been Sally.
	
Children of EDMUND/EDMOND ELDER and ? are:
	i.	ROBERT5 ELDER, b. Abt. 1775.

Notes for ROBERT ELDER:
Dinwiddie Co., VA.. Order Book 1789-1791, 10-19-1789, Stephen Williamson
appointed guardian for Robert Elder and Daniel Elder orphans of Edmund
Elder deceased.



9.	ii.	DANIEL E. ELDER, b. Abt. 1777, Dinwiddie, Virginia.
	
Children of EDMUND/EDMOND ELDER and SALLY are:
	iii.	CLAIBORNE5 ELDER, b. June 15, 1759; d. December 24, 1840,
Dinwiddie County, Virginia.
	iv.	THOMAS ELDER, b. 1773, Dinwiddie County, Virginia; d. December 30,
1853, Bedford County, Virginia; m. CONSTANTINE STEWART, July 23, 1821,
Bedford County, Virginia.

Notes for THOMAS ELDER:
Thomas Elder, who died in 1853 in Bedford County, listed his parents as 
Edmond and Sally Elder of Dinwiddie County. That same death record puts 
Thomas' birth in 1773.

"Land Records, Dinwiddie County, Virginia, 1752-1820," by Thomas P.
Hughes 
Jr. and Jewel B. Standefer, includes:

"Elder, Edmund (Edmond) Estate - 1787-1798 taxed on 200a."

"Rather, Jessee - 1797 taxed on 35a conv by Edmund Elder"

.

6.  JOSEPH4 ELDER (WILLIAM3, PETER2, PETER1) was born September 06, 1731
in Richmond County, Virginia, and died Abt. September 08, 1800 in
Campbell County, Virginia.  He married MARY (POLLY) MATTHEWS in Augusta
County, Virginia.  She was born 1739 in Augusta County, Virginia, and
died 1803.

Notes for JOSEPH ELDER:
>From Jim at jjpgolden@juno.com (James P. Golden):
Joseph & Mary went to Campbell County around 1790; his younger children
married there and his will was recorded and probated there in 1800.
	
Children of JOSEPH ELDER and MARY MATTHEWS are:
	i.	WILLIAM5 ELDER, b. 1758; d. 1799; m. LYDIA.
10.	ii.	DAVID ELDER, b. January 07, 1760, Brunswick County, Virginia; d.
August 04, 1853, Oconee or Clarke County, Georgia.
11.	iii.	JOSHUA ELDER, b. Abt. 1761, Brunswick County, Virginia; d.
1850, Coweta County, Georgia.
12.	iv.	NANCY ELDER, b. Abt. 1762, Brunswick County, Virginia; d. Abt.
1799.
	v.	JAMES EPHRAIM ELDER, b. 1765, Brunswick County, Virginia; d. March
04, 1812; m. POLLY MASON, September 09, 1798, Campbell County, Virginia.
	vi.	POLLY M. ELDER, b. 1769, Brunswick County, Virginia; m. JOSEPH
CREWS, June 18, 1792, Campbell County, Virginia.
	vii.	NANCY ELDER, b. 1768, Brunswick County, Virginia.
	viii.	ELIZABETH (BETSY) ELDER, b. Abt. 1771, Brunswick County,
Virginia; m. SHERIDAN STRONG.
	ix.	JEREMIAH ELDER, b. Abt. 1773, Brunswick County, Virginia; m.
ELVIRAH HERRING.

7.  MARY ANN4 ELDER (WILLIAM3, PETER2, PETER1) was born September 07,
1733 in Richmond County, Virginia.
	
Child of MARY ANN ELDER is:
	i.	SYLVESTER5 ELDER, b. August 16, 1756.

8.  WINIFRED/WINNEFRED4 ELDER (WILLIAM3, PETER2, PETER1) was born
September 07, 1733 in Richmond County, Virginia.  She married HENRY
JONES.  

Notes for WINIFRED/WINNEFRED ELDER:
Christened September 7, 1733 in N. Farnham Parish, Richmond County,
Virginia.
	
Child of WINIFRED/WINNEFRED ELDER and HENRY JONES is:
	i.	HENRY5 JONES, b. February 09, 1762, Petersburg, Virginia; m. SARAH
LIGHTFOOT.


Generation No. 5

9.  DANIEL E.5 ELDER (EDMUND/EDMOND4, WILLIAM3, PETER2, PETER1) was born
Abt. 1777 in Dinwiddie, Virginia.  He married JEMIMA WILLIAMS.  

Notes for DANIEL E. ELDER:
IGI Record film no. 2078036 lists Daniel E. Elder as the son of Edmund
Elder, b. abt. 1777 in Dinwiddie, Virginia.

Dinwiddie Co., VA.. Order Book 1789-1791, 10-19-1789, Stephen Williamson
appointed guardian for Robert Elder and Daniel Elder orphans of Edmund
Elder deceased.



Notes for JEMIMA WILLIAMS:
There is a Jemima Williams listed, born abt. 1752, in Virginia to Owen
Williams.  IGI Record Film No. 1903730
And a wedding date: 21 Apr 1769 Fairfax', 'Virginia. IGI Record Batch
No. 7133611 Sheet: 83 
	
Child of DANIEL ELDER and JEMIMA WILLIAMS is:
13.	i.	JOHN S.6 ELDER, b. Bet. 1795 - 1797, Petersburg, Virginia; d.
January 06, 1880, Campbell County, Virginia.

10.  DAVID5 ELDER (JOSEPH4, WILLIAM3, PETER2, PETER1) was born January
07, 1760 in Brunswick County, Virginia, and died August 04, 1853 in
Oconee or Clarke County, Georgia.  He married (1) MARY HILL (POLLY)
READE August 22, 1784 in Brunswick County, Virginia.  She was born Abt.
1767 in Brunswick County, Virginia, and died Abt. 1797.  He married (2)
POLLY PHILLIPS February 01, 1797 in Brunswick County, Virginia.    He
married (3) ELIZABETH ALLEN Bef. 1818.  

Notes for DAVID ELDER:
Family Treemaker data lists b. Aug. 17, 1760.

Marriage Notes for DAVID ELDER and MARY READE:
Or August 22, 1785, according to FTM entry.
	
Children of DAVID ELDER and MARY READE are:
14.	i.	EDMOND6 ELDER, b. July 16, 1788, Virginia; d. September 12, 1875.
	ii.	ELIZABETH ELDER, b. October 04, 1791, Brunswick County, Virginia;
d. August 01, 1864, Clarke County, Georgia; m. SAMUEL BLAKELY, 1808.
	iii.	WILLIAM E. ELDER, d. 1909.
	iv.	JOSHUA ELDER, b. April 10, 1793; d. September 28, 1863; m. ANNIE E.
GRAY, October 11, 1812.
	v.	NANCY ELDER, b. July 06, 1794, Virginia; d. Bef. 1850; m. GADYLE
FAMBROUGH, February 02, 1809, Clarke County, Georgia.
	
Children of DAVID ELDER and POLLY PHILLIPS are:
	vi.	HARTWELL MATTHEWS6 ELDER, b. April 06, 1798, Virginia; d. May 1848,
Texas; m. PARMELIA TIGNER/TIGNOR, December 21, 1817.
	vii.	THOMAS P. ELDER, b. January 24, 1799; d. 1857, Virginia; m. MARY
POLLY CAIN.
	viii.	JOHN P. ELDER, b. December 10, 1800, Virginia; d. June 07, 1862,
Georgia; m. SUSAN G. BARNETT, November 25, 1823, Walton County, Georgia.
	ix.	JOSEPH N. ELDER, b. 1802, Virginia; d. Bef. November 02, 1844,
Georgia; m. SALLIE JACKS, April 16, 1823, Clarke County, Georgia.
	x.	WYCH MALONE JENKINS ELDER, b. October 05, 1804, Brunswick County,
Virginia; d. October 11, 1870, Roanoke, Alabama; m. MARY JANE BURT,
October 12, 1823, Clarke County, Georgia.
	xi.	POLLY ELDER, b. 1806; d. Bef. 1833.
	xii.	JAMES PARKER ELDER, b. Abt. 1808.
	xiii.	WILLIAMSON ELDER, b. May 09, 1809; d. 1902.

Notes for WILLIAMSON ELDER:
May have been named after Stephen Williamson?.
	
Children of DAVID ELDER and ELIZABETH ALLEN are:
	xiv.	SARAH (SALLIE)6 ELDER, b. Abt. 1818.
	xv.	ERMINE ELDER, b. May 10, 1818; d. May 04, 1848.
	xvi.	ANN ELDER, b. 1820.

11.  JOSHUA5 ELDER (JOSEPH4, WILLIAM3, PETER2, PETER1) was born Abt.
1761 in Brunswick County, Virginia, and died 1850 in Coweta County,
Georgia.  He married ANN GRAY October 12, 1812.  

Notes for JOSHUA ELDER:
From: MOMXFIVE@prodigy.com (MS LAUNA JEAN MAIKOWSKI)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:15:38, -0500 

Hello All,
 I have a Joshua Elder listed as a purchaser of some inventory of the
deceased William Lea. This was July 1, 1794, Wilkes Co, Ga. He is also
mentioned in Wilkes Co, Ga c 1801 in list of debts of the John Talbot
estate. Joshua Elder was the father of John Lewis Elder who was my
gggreatfather. This Joshua Elder was the son of Joseph and Mary
(Mathews) Elder.-
Launa                                                                    

	
Children of JOSHUA ELDER and ANN GRAY are:
	i.	STERLING6 ELDER, b. Bet. 1813 - 1840; m. MARY HERRING.
	ii.	JOHN LEWIS ELDER.

12.  NANCY5 ELDER (JOSEPH4, WILLIAM3, PETER2, PETER1) was born Abt. 1762
in Brunswick County, Virginia, and died Abt. 1799.  She married JOEL
BIGGS April 07, 1783 in Brunswick County, Virginia.  
	
Child of NANCY ELDER and JOEL BIGGS is:
	i.	WINNIFRET6 BIGGS, b. Aft. 1783.


Generation No. 6

13.  JOHN S.6 ELDER (DANIEL E.5, EDMUND/EDMOND4, WILLIAM3, PETER2,
PETER1) was born Bet. 1795 - 1797 in Petersburg, Virginia, and died
January 06, 1880 in Campbell County, Virginia.  He married (1) ELIZA
A..  She was born Abt. 1804.  He married (2) MARTHA (PATSY) JOHNSON
November 14, 1861.  She was born Abt. 1825.

Notes for JOHN S. ELDER:
He fought in the war of 1812.

Robert C. Elder married Sarah Ann Terrell on 9/13/1845 in Campbell Co.
Her father was William Terrell.  Will Book 10 page 191-2/1849- It's and
inventory of Robert's estate, mostly shoemaking equipment, so I would
venture to guess that he was a shoemaker.  Will book 10 page 398-names
William Terrell administrator of the estate. Then it says Robert being
deceased 8/1848-7/1850(I don't know what that means)
Order Book 26 page 139-Ordered that Henry Robertson, Robert Johnson and
Thomas Fox or any 2 of them do state and settle the account of William
Terrell-adm. of Ro. C. Elder, deceased.(forgot to get the date) I think
I found a clue maybe... sometime in the 1870's, there is a will of John
S. Elder leaving his estate to his wife Martha and names a Robert C.
Elder. If that is your Robert C. Elder's son... this maybe his
grandparents.  I took the liberty of going on with William Terrells
line. You may have this already, but if you don't... Marriage- William
Terrell to Mary Blankenship on Nov. 8, 1816. Her father was A.
Blankenship.  Marriage- Archibald Blankenship to Prudence Condray on
Oct. 8,1794.  Will Book 15 page 91 William Terrell (forgot that date
too) names heirs: Wife Mary A. Terrell and daughters Eliza W. Oaks, Mary
G. Pearman, Catherine E. Ascal, Sarah A. Brown, Martha E. Flynn,
Missourie L. Johnson and Martha S. Johnson.  Marriage Book 2 page
43-John R. Brown age 22 single married Sarah A. Elder age 30 widow.
Parents of Sarah-William & Mary T.Terrell. His parents were 
William K & Nancy Brown.

WILL of JOHN S ELDER 10-3-1865
  In the name of God amen.
I John S. Elder being in good helth and sound mind [make]]         <---
Xerox cuts off here.
this my last will and testament.  I give my sould to [him]
that gave it and my body to its mother earth frome wh[ence it]
came.  First I wish my lawful debts to bea paid and [the rest]
of my Estate I give to my beloved wife Martha Elder [as long]
as she remains my widow.  I wish at hear deth if th[ere be]
any thing left for it to be divided between Mary E E[lder and]
Robert C Elder.  I appoint Martha Elder my wife to bea [the
ad-]          <--- Possibly refers to Robert C Elder, Jr.
ministrator and I hope the Cort will not fors hear 
securaty in so doing.  October 3d 1865
Witness                                                    John S Elders
[may be part of a flourish in signature]
Jno Moore
Wm A. Pugh.


1870 Census lists John S. Elder age 73; Martha Elder age 45; and Sarah
Y. Johnson age 23.  All Campbell County, VA.

Sarah Ann Terrell Elder, at the time of the 1850 Census, apparently had
kept Robert C. Jr. with her at her father's house.  But she had
apparently placed Mary E. (Mollie F.) Elder, one year older, with her
father-in-law and mother-in-law.

John S. Elder was a Cabinetmaker.

--------------------------
This may be an insight as to the other wife of John S. Elder...

Here is my info from the 1850 Census:

 Hiram Elder   29   Farmer
 Sarah A. (sorry, can't read age.  failed to check on screen.)
 Eliza A.       5
 Thomas (C?)    1


Hiram is the son of Oliver Elder of Campbell County, VA.  His wife is
Sarah A. Williams.  
--------------------------
	
Child of JOHN ELDER and ELIZA A. is:
15.	i.	ROBERT C.7 ELDER, SR..

14.  EDMOND6 ELDER (DAVID5, JOSEPH4, WILLIAM3, PETER2, PETER1) was born
July 16, 1788 in Virginia, and died September 12, 1875.  He married
NANCY HALL TIGNER/TIGNOR September 19, 1810 in Clarke County, Georgia. 
She was born October 18, 1794 in Clarke County, Georgia, and died August
21, 1853 in Clarke County, Georgia.

Marriage Notes for EDMOND ELDER and NANCY TIGNER/TIGNOR:
One source says the 23rd was the day of the marriage.  I incline toward
this.  The 19th may have been the marriage bond, and the 23rd the
minister's return.
	
Children of EDMOND ELDER and NANCY TIGNER/TIGNOR are:
	i.	WILLIAM YOUNG7 ELDER, b. March 24, 1822, Clarke County, Georgia; d.
October 02, 1891, Clarke County, Georgia.
	ii.	PHILLIP TIGNER/TIGNOR ELDER, b. January 29, 1812, Clarke County,
Georgia.
	iii.	DAVID READ ELDER, b. November 07, 1813, Clarke County, Georgia; d.
March 01, 1884.
	iv.	ELIZABETH MIRANDA ELDER, b. July 05, 1816, Clarke County, Georgia.
	v.	JOSHUA MILTON ELDER, b. May 14, 1820, Clarke County, Georgia; d.
October 23, 1828.
	vi.	MARY CELESTIA BIRD ELDER, b. August 28, 1826, Clarke County,
Georgia; d. April 10, 1898.
	vii.	JOHN WESLEY ELDER, b. September 08, 1828, Clarke County, Georgia.
	viii.	JAMES HOWARD ELDER, b. November 28, 1830, Clarke County, Georgia;
d. March 06, 1853.
	ix.	NANCY ANNIE ELDER, b. July 12, 1834, Clarke County, Georgia; d.
October 22, 1849.
	x.	SUSAN FRANCES ELDER, b. October 27, 1836, Clarke County, Georgia.


Generation No. 7

15.  ROBERT C.7 ELDER, SR. (JOHN S.6, DANIEL E.5, EDMUND/EDMOND4,
WILLIAM3, PETER2, PETER1)  He married SARAH ANN TERRELL September 13,
1845 in Campbell Co., Virginia, daughter of WILLIAM TERRELL and MARY
BLANKENSHIP.  She was born July 29, 1823 in Lynchburg, Campbell Co.,
Virginia.

Notes for SARAH ANN TERRELL:
709 710 William Terrell  55 (or 35)
                   Mary             52 (or 32)
                   Mahala         16
                   Eliza             13
                   Frances        11
                   Luticia            9
                   Sarah Elder  22
                   Robert            2

This may refer to a William Terrell married to a Mary Blankenship,
November 8, 1816, in Campbell County.

Note that Mollie F. Elder (
	
Children of ROBERT ELDER and SARAH TERRELL are:
	i.	MARY E. ( MOLLIE F.)8 ELDER, b. Abt. 1847.
16.	ii.	ROBERT C. ELDER, JR., b. April 1848, Campbell Co., VA.


Generation No. 8

16.  ROBERT C.8 ELDER, JR. (ROBERT C.7, JOHN S.6, DANIEL E.5,
EDMUND/EDMOND4, WILLIAM3, PETER2, PETER1) was born April 1848 in
Campbell Co., VA.  He married NANNIE JANE LITTLE December 14, 1871 in
Staunton, H. H. Kennedy, officiating, daughter of JAMES LITTLE and MARY
PETERS.  She was born September 1850 in Rockbridge Co., VA.

Notes for ROBERT C. ELDER, JR.:
Apparently, Robert was born in Campbell County.  There is an IGI Record,
film no. 453756, ref. 33335, that mentions a Robert Elder, son of Mr.
Elder, born 1848 Campbell County, Virginia.

Louise Perkins' Rockbridge Marriage Book...

14 December 1871 Robt. C. Elder, 23, S, b/Augusta, lv/Augusta, Farmer,
son of R. Elder & S. Elder,
married Nannie J. Little, 21, S, b/Rockbridge,
daughter of J. Little & M. Little, H.H. Kennedy officiating, married in
Stanton.



Farmer Bell's Valley.
Mentioned in 1880 US Census of Rockbridge County, Virginia,  T9-1387
Tape:

Elder, Robert C     32                             Farmer
            Nannie J    29        
            John E         7
            Albert (T?)    5
            Robert E      3
            Mary E        5/12  Feb.  

Elder, Robert C.            State: VA
             County : Augusta Co.
             Location Dist. 3
             Year : 1870
             Page # : 378

More info for 1870 Census Index...
             Race : W
             Age : 22
             Birth place : VA
             Township : Mt Sidney P O
             Microfilm : Roll 1634, Page 378

Actual Microfilm... for 1870...
             Brown, John ?               36 farmer   
$1000               VA
             _____, Sarah A.            48 keeping house               
VA
             Elder, Mollie F.             23 at
home                           VA
             --------, Robert C.            22  farm
laborer                    VA
             Brown, ?                      
11                                         VA 
             ----------, Sarah V.            
9                                          VA
             ----------, John P.             
7                                          VA
             _____, William A.         
3                                          VA



Communication by Angela Ruley -- I think some of the Elders are in the
Lebanon Presbyterian Church Cemetery.  Have to look that one back up to
be exact on it.

LDS IGI Film 2034614 gives the same data as shown for the marriage or
Robert C. Elder to Nannie J. Little.  But they show Rockbridge Co.,
instead of Staunton, VA.

Note:  The name ELDER is not to be found in the Online 1820 Campbell
County Census.- http://censuslinks.com/directory/Virginia/Campbell/

Notes for NANNIE JANE LITTLE:
Or Nancy Jane ... May even be Cornella Jane!
	
Children of ROBERT ELDER and NANNIE LITTLE are:
	i.	JOHN E.9 ELDER, b. October 05, 1872.

Notes for JOHN E. ELDER:
This is presumably correct information...

>From this...
   Elder, John 5 Oct 1872 [WMA] Rockbridge Co.; Nancy & R.C. Elder
(farmer, Rockbridge Co.) reported by father

	ii.	ALBERT TERRELL ELDER, b. August 15, 1875; d. 1934.

Notes for ALBERT TERRELL ELDER:
Stone at Cedar Hill Cemetery, Covington, Virginia, says:

Albert T Elder
1875     1934
Until the Daybreak and
The Shadows Flee Away

His was the largest stone, coupled with several others, including:
Ida Kate Elder Davis
Edward H. Davis and wife Nana N.
Shirley Ann Davis
Florence Schaefer Elder
Sallie Lillian Elder


	iii.	ROBERT ERVINE ELDER, b. December 10, 1877.

Notes for ROBERT ERVINE ELDER:
>From this data...
  Elder, Robert Ervine 10 Dec 1877 [WMA] Rockbridge Co.; Nancy Jane &
Robert Elder (farmer, Big Calf Pasture River) reported by Jasper H.  
Forbes/grandfather

	iv.	MARY E. ELDER, b. February 1881.

Notes for MARY E. ELDER:
Moved to New York with Florence, but apparently did not return with
Florence.

17.	v.	IDA KATE ELDER, b. September 27, 1882; d. 1969.
	vi.	SALLIE LILLIAN ELDER, b. May 1885; d. 1952.

Notes for SALLIE LILLIAN ELDER:
Stone reads, at Cedar Hill Cemetery, Covington, Virginia, reads:

Sallie Lillian Elder
1885 - 1952
Love Never Ends


	vii.	AUSTIN ELDER, b. November 1888.

Notes for AUSTIN ELDER:
1850 Microfilm Census of Dinwiddie County, VA...
   
   Elder, Austin     40 m  
             Eliza       37 f
             Martha      5 f
             Silus(?)     2 m
   
Perhaps the above is a relative for whom The Austin of our Discussion
Here was named.

	viii.	ETHLYN ELDER, b. December 22, 1890; d. May 30, 1969; m. MR.
CRAFT.

Notes for ETHLYN ELDER:
Buried at Goshen Baptist Church in Goshen, Rockbridge, Virginia.  See
Lewis P. Elder's notes for directions to the site.

Her tombstone, isolated from any obvious nearby relations, reads:

Ethlyn Elder Craft
Dec 22 1890
May 30 1969
Behold I Make All Things New

	ix.	ETHEL ELDER, b. Abt. 1892.

Notes for ETHEL ELDER:
In 1910 U.S. Census, it says Ethel Elder was living with George H. Davis
and his wife -- her sister -- Ida Catherine.

	x.	FLORENCE SCHAFER ELDER, b. April 05, 1896; d. July 1972, Blackstone,
Virginia.

Notes for FLORENCE SCHAFER ELDER:
Moved to New York, but eventually back to Covington area.

SSN 092-10-3571 Issued: NY born 5 April 1896 died July 1972 VA
Blackstone, VA.

Her gravestone, at Cedar Hill Cemetery, Covington, Virginia, reads:

Florence Schafer Elder
1896 - 1972
Love Never Ends.


Generation No. 9

17.  IDA KATE9 ELDER (ROBERT C.8, ROBERT C.7, JOHN S.6, DANIEL E.5,
EDMUND/EDMOND4, WILLIAM3, PETER2, PETER1) was born September 27, 1882,
and died 1969.  She married GEORGE H. DAVIS Abt. 1904, son of LEWIS
DAVIS and MANERVA KARNES.  He was born April 29, 1871, and died
September 28, 1955.

Notes for IDA KATE ELDER:
In the 1920 U. S. Census, Ida Kate Davis now calls herself Catherine
Davis. She is listed as married but is not in her husband's 
household even though he is alive. She has with her, Helen age 9 and
John C. age 3 - 3/12.

>From Hill's "Charlottesville City Directory 1956" ...

  DAVIS
  - - Cath E Mrs h204 W South

[This means Mrs. Catherine Elder Davis home at 204 West South St.,
Charlottesville, VA]

--------------------

>From Hill's "Charlottesville City Directory 1964" ...

  DAVIS
  - - Cath E R829 Nalle St   [Helen Bunch's house, her daughter.]
__________


Obituary for Mrs. George Davis follows ... (probably from the Daily
Progress of Charlottesville, VA)

MRS. GEORGE DAVIS

  Mrs. Catherine Elder Davis, 86 of 829 Nalle St.
[Charlottesville, VA] died at her home last
night.
  She was born in Rockbridge County Sept. 27,
1882.  She was the widow of George Davis.                     <--- This
was not strictly true, since George H. had married again!
  Mrs. Davis belonged to the First Presbyterian
Church.
  Survivors include a son, Edward H. Davis of
Goshen; a daughter, Mrs. Helen D. Bunch of
Charlottesville; two sisters, Mrs. Ethlyn Craft of
Goshen and Miss Florence Elder of Covington;
six grandchildren and 13 great-grandchildren.
  The funeral will be Saturday at 10 a.m. in the
Preddy-Teague Funeral Chapel [C'ville]  A
graveside service will follow at 2:30 p.m.
in Cedar Hill Cemetery, Covington.

Her stone reads:

Ida Kate Elder Davis
1882 - 1969
Known as Catherine Elder Davis

Notes for GEORGE H. DAVIS:
1910 U.S. Census tape T624-1647 was the source of some of this
information.  Enumerated April 29, 1910 by S. Finley.  Outside of
Goshen.

1920 U.S. Census tape T625-1906 was the source of the following
information: 

   George, while still married to Ida Catherine, was in a separate
household with their oldest son Edward age 14.

   It also revealed that George and Edward were living on Water Street,
Goshen Town (only one other family was listed as living on Water   
Street.  Just above the mention of Water Street was Staunton Ave.  Just
below it was Maury Ave.

   It listed Ida Catherine Davis as living on Church Street, with a
number of other households being on that same street.

The Date of Death for George is only, at best, at this point, an
educated guess, based on Charlottesville City Directories and common
sense.  The 1956 and before directories seem to list Ida Catherine Elder
Davis as Mrs. Catherine E. Davis.  1957, and possibly later, list her as
(wid G H), or in other words, as the widow of George H. Davis.  This
would seem to indicate 1) that she became a widow around 1957, and 2)
that she had not divorced, or been divorced by, George, but was merely
separated.  One would not be a widow if they were divorced.  This is
somewhat flimsy evidence, admittedly, and will be adjusted upon the
receipt of better.


Called George P. Davis in the Births book of Rockbridge County.
  Davis, George P.  Apr. 1871  Jane & Lewis P. Davis farmer reported by
father
	
Children of IDA ELDER and GEORGE DAVIS are:
18.	i.	EDWARD H.10 DAVIS, b. March 02, 1905; d. November 12, 1988.
	ii.	HELEN DAVIS, b. Abt. 1911; d. May 04, 1977; m. JOHN H. BUNCH; d.
Bef. 1956.

Notes for HELEN DAVIS:
>From Hill's "Charlottesville City Directory 1956" ...

  Bunch
  - - Helene D (wid John H) div mgr Sears
      r204 South

  [This means that Helene Davis Bunch, then a widow, was then rooming
with (Ida) Catherine (Elder) Davis, her mother.]


  Note:  No mention of a John A. Bunch (see entry for Directory, 1957,
below)

------------

>From Hill's "Charlottesville City Directory 1957" ...

  Bunch
  - - Helen D (wid John A) dept head Sears r204 w South
  - - John A jr USA r204 W South

This indicates a son.  The A may be incorrect, either in the case of the
father only, or of the father and the son.  The USA may have meant
United States Army.  Sheila Jane Davis Summers seemed to think he would
have been old enough to have enlisted, and she believes he did at one
point enter the military.  It is also possible that the directory would
have "patriotically" listed those in the service at the time.  

------------- 

>From Hill's "Charlottesville City Directory 1964" ...

  Bunch
  - - Helene (wid John) clk Sears H829 Nalle St

Helen may have come to Charlottesville because of her husband, or John
Clark may have come because of employment; and Ida Catherine followed. 
Or for other reasons, Ida Catherine may have moved to Charlottesville. 
At any rate, John H. Bunch and Helen moved to (was it Kalamazoo)
Michigan.  Later, Helen left her husband to come back and care for her
mother.  She also cared for John Clark, her brother. ---- as told by
Sheila Jane Davis Summers, daughter of John Clark Davis.

Date of death obtained from a card in the Albemarle County Historical
Society.  No document was with the hand written card, to prove it.

Notes for JOHN H. BUNCH:
In Hill's "Charlottesville City Directory of 1956", Helene Davis is
listed as (wid John H).

19.	iii.	JOHN CLARK DAVIS, b. September 13, 1916, Goshen (Rockbridge
Co.) VA; d. May 23, 1965, Charlottesville (Albemarle Co.) VA.


Generation No. 10

18.  EDWARD H.10 DAVIS (IDA KATE9 ELDER, ROBERT C.8, ROBERT C.7, JOHN
S.6, DANIEL E.5, EDMUND/EDMOND4, WILLIAM3, PETER2, PETER1) was born
March 02, 1905, and died November 12, 1988.  He married NANA N..  She
was born 1902, and died 1989.

Notes for EDWARD H. DAVIS:
SSN 227-03-5073  SSDI mentions him as residing at zip 24426 (Covington,
Covington (City), VA)  Card issued bef. 1951.
	
Children of EDWARD DAVIS and NANA N. are:
	i.	NANCY11 DAVIS.

Notes for NANCY DAVIS:
Had Polio.

	ii.	MARTHA JANE DAVIS.
	iii.	SHIRLEY ANN DAVIS, b. 1933; d. 1933.

Notes for SHIRLEY ANN DAVIS:
Stone reads, at Cedar Hill Cemetery, in the Albert Terrel Elder Plot:

Shirley Ann Davis
Infant Daughter of 
Mr & Mrs E. H. Davis
1 mo. 20 days 1933.

19.  JOHN CLARK10 DAVIS (IDA KATE9 ELDER, ROBERT C.8, ROBERT C.7, JOHN
S.6, DANIEL E.5, EDMUND/EDMOND4, WILLIAM3, PETER2, PETER1) was born
September 13, 1916 in Goshen (Rockbridge Co.) VA, and died May 23, 1965
in Charlottesville (Albemarle Co.) VA.  He married RACHEL ADELINE CARPER
October 10, 1941, daughter of HOWARD CARPER and LOTTIE FERREL.  She was
born November 03, 1919 in New Castle, Craig Co., VA.

Notes for JOHN CLARK DAVIS:
Birth and Death Dates from Bureau of Vital Statistics, State Board of
Health, Virginia (Vol. 480, #41917).

Served in World War II in the Phillipines.

He died, apparently from being hit by a car.

SSDI Search SSN 227-03-4390

>From Hill's "Charlottesville City Directory 1956" ...

     DAVIS
     - - John C prntr Chvle Press r204 W
          South

[This means John Clark Davis printer Charlottesville Press; rooms at 204
West South St., Charlottesville, VA  -- the home of his mother.]

This entry is in the 56 Charlottesville City Directory, also...
 
  PACE
  - - Russell H (Helen M; The Chvle Press) h814 Nalle

>From Hill's "Charlottesville City Directory 1964" (last year John Clark
Davis was alive) ...

     DAVIS
     - - John C R829 Nalle St  [This is the house of his widowed sister,
Helen (called Helene in the directory).]

----------------

John did Typesetting.  John and his wife Rachel, were divorced.  Rachel
lived at 440 2d St., NE, with her Aunt, Florence V. Ferrell staying as a
roomer to help in the care of Sheila, John & Rachel's daughter, while
Rachel worked at Leggett's Department Store.

Notes for RACHEL ADELINE CARPER:
>From Hill's "Charlottesville City Directory 1956" ...

  DAVIS
  - - Rachel A Mrs cash Leggett's h440 2d NE        [This means she
worked as a cashier at Leggett's, and had a home at 440 2nd St.
NE,       which, incidentally, had a roomer, her Aunt Florence V.
Ferrell, who assisted in caring for Rachel's daughter, Sheila.] 

	
Child of JOHN DAVIS and RACHEL CARPER is:
20.	i.	SHEILA JANE11 DAVIS, b. July 28, 1947, Charlottesville, Albemarle
Co., VA.


Generation No. 11

20.  SHEILA JANE11 DAVIS (JOHN CLARK10, IDA KATE9 ELDER, ROBERT C.8,
ROBERT C.7, JOHN S.6, DANIEL E.5, EDMUND/EDMOND4, WILLIAM3, PETER2,
PETER1) was born July 28, 1947 in Charlottesville, Albemarle Co., VA. 
She married VINCENT EDWARD SUMMERS June 12, 1982 in Charlottesville,
Albemarle Co., VA.  He was born August 12, 1948 in Camden, NJ (Camden
Cooper Hospital).
	
Children of SHEILA DAVIS and VINCENT SUMMERS are:
	i.	MICHAEL VINCENT12 SUMMERS, b. June 01, 1983.
	ii.	RACHEL ADELE SUMMERS, b. February 12, 1985.

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Subject: [Elder-News]: research

From: Nfiac@aol.com
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:24:03 EDT

hi,

I am searching for info on Edwin Avery Elder graduate class of 1891 US Naval 
Academy.  DOD 1895.  have no DOB, or state.  any info will be very helpful

nfiac@aol.com
Jen Sullivan

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Ruth Elder

From: jessie <jessie@sd.cybernex.net>
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:06:20 -0500

Hello Lee!

you wrote:
> 
> Hello Ken and Jessie:
> I have Ruth Elder in my fmaily Genealogy.  I have her picture and story
> about her flight to Europe. She was married six times. Her father was
> Oscar Elder, a brother to my Grandfather, Samuel Elder. I would like to
> correspond with both of you to see
> how we connect in the family.

I'm sorry for the confusion about Ruth Elder.  As far as I know I am not
related to her, it just happens that Ruth Elder is also my real name.  I
am descended from a different branch of Elders, the Coshocton and Monroe
Cty line.

best wishes, 

Jessie (aka Ruth) Elder

jessie@sd.cybernex.net

p.s. i tried to send this to your email address in NM but it bounced
back after 6 hours, that's why it's on the list!

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Oliver Elder and Martha Jones' Issue?

From: Vincent Edward Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu>
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 22:57:29 -0400

Not to be repetitive, (I may have talked about this before, don't
remember) I wish to know each and every one of Oliver ELDER's children
(names, dates, etc.), since he lived next door at one point at least,
to John S. ELDER.  And John S. ELDER married apparently at one point,
an Eliza A. ELDER.  Now, I know this Eliza A. ELDER was not Oliver
ELDER's granddaughter, the daughter of Hiram ELDER.  Timing was 
impossible.  But I strongly suspect Oliver ELDER had a daughter Eliza
A. ELDER, who married John S. ELDER.  Tracing back, both Oliver and
John go back to William ELDER married Ann.

Thanks for any leads on this.

Vince

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: research

From: Lee Elder <elder@trailnet.com>
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 11:32:37 -0500

Hi Jen:
I couldn't fine a Edwin Avery Elder in my computer in any of my directories.  I
am sorry.
Lee M. Elder

Nfiac@aol.com wrote:

> hi,
>
> I am searching for info on Edwin Avery Elder graduate class of 1891 US Naval
> Academy.  DOD 1895.  have no DOB, or state.  any info will be very helpful
>
> nfiac@aol.com
> Jen Sullivan

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Nancy Elder

From: CKey558122@aol.com
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:24:13 EDT

	I am searching for information on Nancy Elder b. Jan 5, 1827 who 
married Lee Cate b. Jan 25, 1824. Does anyone know Nancy's parents names or 
the names of any brothers and sisters? Thank you
			CKey

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Nancy Elder

From: Lee Elder <elder@trailnet.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 09:59:46 -0500

Hi CKey:
Yes I have Nancy  Elder and Lee Cate in my directory. Here is the
family.

Charles Elder
1st wife - Elizabeth Undersood
1. Nancy Elder  b. 01-05-1827
   Husband Lee Cate
2. John Underwood Elder b. 08-17-1828
3. Catherine Elder b. 1830
4. William riley Elder b. 01-  -1833
5. Masrtha Jane Elder b. ca. 1837
6. Thurza Emeline Elder b. ca. 1843

Charles 2nd wife Mrs. Rachel N. (Bryan) Keener
1. Charles Thomas Elder b. 07-27-1863
2. Rebecca Narcissus Elder b. 01-10-1866

Can I help you in any more of the family?
Lee M. Elder

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Nancy Elder

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:52:08 -0400

Nancy Elder was the daughter of Charles Elder b. Dec. 16, 1807 m. Nov. 15,
1825 Elizabeth Underwood in Jefferson Co., TN.  Charles was the son of
William Elder & wife Rebecca Cates.

(1) Nancy Elder b. Jan. 6, 1827, Jefferson Co TN. m: Dec. 5, 1844 Lee Cate
son of Joshua Cate in Jefferson Co., TN., Nancy d. July 17, 1901 in Sevier
Co TN....Lee & Nancy (Elder) Cate are buried Dumplin Valley cemetery,
Jefferson Co., TN.
(2) John Underwood Elder m. Sarah Mount
(3) Catherine Elder m. Daniel L. Jones
(4) William Riley Elder m. Mary Katharine Douglass (my ancestor to Charles &
Elizabeth) aebp
(5) Martha Jane Elder m. Henry Miller
(6) Thurza Emeline "Emma" Elder m. Ira H. Jones.

Hope this helps you,

Ann Elder-Brooks Poe
-----Original Message-----
From: CKey558122@aol.com <CKey558122@aol.com>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 9:27 AM
Subject: [Elder-News]: Nancy Elder


> I am searching for information on Nancy Elder b. Jan 5, 1827 who
>married Lee Cate b. Jan 25, 1824. Does anyone know Nancy's parents names or
>the names of any brothers and sisters? Thank you
> CKey
>

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Nancy Elder

From: CKey558122@aol.com
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:52:41 EDT

Thank You so much! This is just what I needed. I appreciate it very much. I 
have a lot of info on the Cate side but didn't have anything on the Elder.
C Key

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Nancy Elder

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:09:19 -0400

Hi Lee,

We need to make some changes on my Elder's      see below please
-----Original Message-----
From: Lee Elder <elder@trailnet.com>
To: ckey558122@aol.com <ckey558122@aol.com>
Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 7:07 PM
Subject: [Elder-News]: Nancy Elder


>Hi CKey:
>Yes I have Nancy  Elder and Lee Cate in my directory. Here is the
>family.
>
>Charles Elder m. Nov 15, 1825 in Jefferson Co TN
>1st wife - Elizabeth Undersood dau. of Thomas & Mary (Ramey) Underwood
>1. Nancy Elder  b. 01-05-1827
>   Husband Lee Cate son of Joshua Cate
>2. John Underwood Elder b. 08-7-1828
        m. Sarah Mount Feb 6, 1850 in Jefferson Co TN
>3. Catherine Elder b. Jan 7, 1830
        m. Daniel L. Jones
>4. William Riley Elder b. Dec 27, 1831 in Jefferson Co TN., m: Nov. 30,
1854 in Sevier Co TN  to Mary Katherine Douglass of Sevier Co., TN

>5. Martha Jane Elder b. April 11, 1838 in Jefferson Co TN., m. Nov. 2, 1855
in Jefferson Co TN to Henry Miller (they moved to Knoxville).

>6. Thurza Emeline "Emma" Elder b. Oct 18, 1843, Jefferson Co TN., m. Nov
10, 1860 in Jefferson Co TN Ira H. Jones.

Daniel Jones and Ira Jones were in the Union Army during the CW, both have
pension papers. aebp (I do  not know if they were related)ap

Charles and Elizabeth (Underwood) Elder my g-g-g-grandparents.  Sarah Mount
is of the same Mount family I am.

I hope you are enjoying your summer,

Ann   elderbrooks@msn.com
>Charles 2nd wife Mrs. Rachel N. (Bryan) Keener
>1. Charles Thomas Elder b. 07-27-1863
>2. Rebecca Narcissus Elder b. 01-10-1866
>
>Can I help you in any more of the family?
>Lee M. Elder
>
>

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Nancy Elder

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:13:20 -0400

I am glad it helped,

Ann
-----Original Message-----
From: CKey558122@aol.com <CKey558122@aol.com>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Nancy Elder


>Thank You so much! This is just what I needed. I appreciate it very much. I
>have a lot of info on the Cate side but didn't have anything on the Elder.
>C Key
>

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Lee

From: "Richard Black" <samarai@midwest.net>
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 09:22:04 -0500

Just stopped by to say thanks to Lee.  You helped me alot a year ago & I
notice you're still helping others.  Once again Thanks for being so nice of
a person.

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Lee

From: Rlaneb1@aol.com
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 13:40:56 EDT

Lee,

I also enjoy reading all of the Elder helps you have given. We appreciate you 
generosity!! Many thanks.

Rebecca Bangsund

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Lee

From: Bob Elder <bobelder@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 19:06:48 -0400

Lee,

I've been impressed with your helpfulness to others and decided to ask for help myself. This question concerns Joseph Elder of Campbell County, VA, who died in 1800, and his son James. Please read the following notes and tell me what you think. It's a little long because there is no direct evidence that I can find.


I've been seeking the parents of Joshua Elder of Rutherford County, TN, who was born about 1795 according to censuses. I have found links to a James Elder:

My gg-grandfather, Joshua Elder, and his parents were born in Virginia. [1880 Census, Rutherford County, TN, microfilm T9-1276, page 9.]

Joshua Elder was administrator of the estate of a James Elder in Rutherford County, TN, in 1824 (no relationship recorded). [Rutherford County, TN, Wills, Inventories and Settlements, Volume 16, page 67, 18 Oct 1824: inventory.]

A James Elder age 45 or over had 3 boys and 6 girls in 1820 in Rutherford County, TN. [1820 Census, M33-124, page 99R.] Ages of the children were: a boy under 10, a boy 10-16 and a boy 16-18; a girl 10-16 and five girls 16-26.

Also living in Rutherford County, TN, in 1820 were James Elder, Jr. and another adult man (his brother, Joshua Elder?), both age 16-26, apparently near James Elder, Sr. (judging by Census page numbers). [1820 Census, M33-124, page 100.]

With these facts in hand, I searched 1810 Census records for VA and found the following:

A James Elder age 26-45 had 4 boys and 6 girls in 1810 in Charlotte County, VA. [1810 Census, M252-68, page 1013.] Ages of the children were: two boys under 10 and two boys 10-16; three girls under 10 and three girls 10-16.

I concluded that the James Elders of 1820-TN and 1810-VA could be the same person, since the ages and numbers of children could match up. Therefore, I searched for further evidence connecting the two. I found a possible link in the brother-in-law, Jesse Mason, and his wife Susannah. They apparently were close to James and Polly Mason Elder in VA:

James Elder and Polly Mason married, bond dated 9 Sep 1789; consent by father, John Mason; surety and witness Jesse Mason. [Marriages of Campbell County, VA, 1782-1810, page 33, L. H. M. Baber and H. L. Williamson, 1971.]

Francis M. Petty sold land in Campbell County, VA, to John Elder, bounded by Joseph Elder, James Elder and Jesse Mason, recorded 12 Jun 1797. [Campbell County, VA, Deeds, Book 4, 1796-1799, page 199.]

Jesse Mason and wife Susannah sold 100 acres in Campbell County, VA, 8 Oct 1813. [Campbell County, VA, Deed Book 10, 1813-1815, page 242.] 

And here they are in TN:

Susannah Mason was granted administration of the estate of Jesse Mason, deceased, 13 Jan 1817, in Rutherford County, TN. [Rutherford County, TN, Minute Book, Volume K, 1816-1817, page 41(125).]

So it appears that Jesse Mason and family moved to Rutherford County, TN, between 1813 and 1817. In addition, here's James Elder:

Inventory of the Mason estate mentions debt of James Elder, 19 May 1817. (Also mentions Coleman and Obediah Mason, for whom there also are records in Campbell County, VA.) [Rutherford County, TN, Wills, Inventories and Settlements, Volume 4, 1816-1820, page 15(63).]

So there is a link if the James Elder mentioned here is the same one mentioned later in other Rutherford County records. 

That's mostly what I've had until K. Chamberlain provided the names of eleven siblings including her David Elder and Joshua Elder in Rutherford County, TN (David, James, Joshua, William, Claborn, Lucy, Elizabeth, Sarah, Nancy, Frances and Susan).

Joseph Elder's will, dated 16 Jan 1800 and proved 8 Sep 1800, names wife Mary and children Joshua, David, James, John, Polly, Betsy and Jeremiah and granddaughter Winnifred Biggs. [Campbell County, VA, Will Book 2, 1800-1810, page 1.] (Winnifred Biggs was the daughter of Nancy Elder.)

Nancy Elder, daughter of Joseph Elder, married Joel Biggs in Brunswick County, VA, 7 Apr 1783. [Marriage Bonds and Ministers' Returns of Brunswick County, VA, 1750-1810, C. L. Knorr, 1953, page 7.]

Note the commonality of names between Joseph's children and those of his son James. James' older brothers Joshua and David participated in the Revolutionary War. His grandfather was William Elder. He had sisters Nancy and Betsy. There was a Frances Mason in Campbell County; Susannah was the sister-in-law.

Does this fit in with your knowledge of the family?

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Subject: [Elder-News]: John Elder, Campbell County

From: Vincent Edward Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu>
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:47:18 -0400

Which John was this, as listed by Bob Elder...

Francis M. Petty sold land in Campbell County, VA, to John Elder, 
bounded by Joseph Elder, James Elder and Jesse Mason, recorded 
12 Jun 1797.

[Campbell County, VA, Deeds, Book 4, 1796-1799, page 199.]

Thanks,
Vince

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Subject: RE: [Elder-News]: John Elder, Campbell County

From: Bob Elder <bobelder@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:45:09 -0400

Vince,

The land record doesn't say, but I believe this is Joseph and Mary Elder's son. A son John is named in Joseph Elder's will in 1800. Joseph's wife and son John were the executors. Incidentally, John Elder married Ann Johns in Charlotte County, VA, 1 July 1799.

Bob
-----Original Message-----
From:	Vincent Edward Summers [SMTP:vsummers@nrao.edu]
Sent:	Sunday, June 13, 1999 9:47 PM
To:	elder-news@intrepid.net
Subject:	[Elder-News]: John Elder, Campbell County

Which John was this, as listed by Bob Elder...

Francis M. Petty sold land in Campbell County, VA, to John Elder, 
bounded by Joseph Elder, James Elder and Jesse Mason, recorded 
12 Jun 1797.

[Campbell County, VA, Deeds, Book 4, 1796-1799, page 199.]

Thanks,
Vince

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder news

From: Lee Elder <elder@trailnet.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:46:24 -0500

Hi Bob:
Glad to hear from you. Yes I have Joseph Elder and Mary Mathews with the
following children.
David, Joshua, Nancy, James (m. to Mary "Polly" Mason on 09-09-1789 in
Rustburg, Cambell, VA.), John, Marg, Betsy, Jeremiah, Ephraim.

Bob do you have one of my books? Most of the ones that you mentioned are
in my book.  Talk to you later.
Lee

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Subject: [Elder-News]: John Elder

From: Lee Elder <elder@trailnet.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:21:18 -0500

Bob:
I have John elder married to Nancy Anne Johns m.07-01-1799 and they had
5 children.  John "Jack" Edler, Jerry Elder, Joseph David "Little Joe"
Elder, Doctor
Washington Elder, and Patrick Henry Elder

To Vince: John was James younger brother and Joseph was  father of both.

Lee

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Son of John son of Joseph ELDER

From: Vincent Edward Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:58:44 -0400

Was this a title or a name, Lee?


Elder, Doctor Washington

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder news

From: George Besendorfer <kinggeorge33@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:02:33 PDT

Lee
I would like to find out what you have the David you mentioned here.  My 
ancestor is David Elder and I would like to see if we can find a connection 
here.  My cousin is K Chamberlain.  What can you tell us about David's 
descendents.
S Besendorfer


>From: Lee Elder <elder@trailnet.com>
>Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net
>To: bobelder@erthlink.net
>Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder news
>Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:46:24 -0500
>
>Hi Bob:
>Glad to hear from you. Yes I have Joseph Elder and Mary Mathews with the
>following children.
>David, Joshua, Nancy, James (m. to Mary "Polly" Mason on 09-09-1789 in
>Rustburg, Cambell, VA.), John, Marg, Betsy, Jeremiah, Ephraim.
>
>Bob do you have one of my books? Most of the ones that you mentioned are
>in my book.  Talk to you later.
>Lee
>
>


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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Son of John son of Joseph ELDER

From: Lee Elder <elder@trailnet.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:59:43 -0500

Hi Vince:
It was only a name. he was not a Doctor.
Lee

Vincent Edward Summers wrote:

> Was this a title or a name, Lee?
>
> Elder, Doctor Washington

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Son of John son of Joseph ELDER

From: Vince Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:25:01 -0400 (EDT)

Thanks.  I will note that Doctor was a name.
Vince

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: John Elder, Campbell County

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:05:31 -0400

ELDER, Joseph

From: Bob Elder <bobelder@earthlink.net>
To: 'elder-news@intrepid.net' <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 8:51 AM
Subject: RE: [Elder-News]: John Elder, Campbell County

The land record doesn't say, but I believe this is Joseph and Mary Elder's
son. A son John is named in Joseph Elder's will in 1800. Joseph's wife and
son John were the executors. Incidentally, John Elder married Ann Johns in
Charlotte County, VA, 1 July 1799.

Hi, not to interrupt this good flow you have going but I would like to say
only a couple of things.
!. If any of you from Joseph Elder happens to know their younger ancestors
this may help.  Sterling Elder goes to Joseph Elder and that one line can be
proven by a series of wills for each generation.  I do not have the
information on the wills or the wills.  I have a friend in Sacremento CA.
and they are her ancestors and well documented.  Wilma was with the
Sacremento Library.  I would not be surprised if the information is among
their material and available by mail.  This information is also among the
information in Salt Lake City and you might be able to try to get it on line
now.

2. Vince, I have not forgotten the will, I am not yet retired and by the
time I get home I have slowed to a crawl.

Lee, have you found me that one single thread of proof I am so stubborn
about on my ancestor Samuel Elder who died 1811 in Sevier Co TN?  I want to
move that Elder family, I know all lines cannot be resolved through
genealogy.  Do you know I've worked on these Elder's since 1978!!!  I admit
I have to have one good source.  Do you still believe that Samuel Elder of
TN. whose will is in your books was the son of ....I have just drawn a
blank? You have information on Sterling Elder in you book 1998.

Wishing all of us more information, Ann Poe   elderbrooks@msn.com

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder News

From: Lee Elder <elder@trailnet.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:18:55 -0500

Hi Shanna:
I received your email. I have a Directory in my compouter with David
Elder and Martha Montgomery.  Here is what I have on David.

David Elder b. 1799 d. 05-26-1830 in Rutherford, TN.
Wife- Martha Louise Montgomery b. 04-07-1807 in Mackinburg. Co.k, NC.
            d. 05-20-1888 in Logan, Cache co., UT. m. 11-07-1825
    1. James R. Elder b. 09-30-1826  D. 1830
    2. Claybourne Montgomery Elder b. 06-02-1827  d. 01-08-1912
        1st wife - Nancy Williams m. 02-09-1853  No children
        2nd wife-Mary Carolinie Pratt m. 01-21-1858  5 children
        3rd wife-Mica Martine Catrine Margrethe Pedersen  ml. 01-31-1858

                    They had 8 children
        4th wife-Frances Elizabeth Pratt m. 07-25-1863  They had 11
children
        5th wife - ________ Polsifer  m. 1908

    3. Martha Jane Elder b. 02-04-1830  David's third child

If you would like a copy of rthe file I have, send me your mailing
address and I will make a copy and mail it to you.  Let me know.

Lee M. Elder

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder News

From: Lee Elder <elder@trailnet.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:25:28 -0500

Hi Larry:
The David Elder that Shanna was looking for was not frm Pennsylvania.
Her David Elder Married Martha Louise Montgomery.  David Elder and
Margery Stewart wass from the Pennsylvania '
group.  I have them also.
Lee M. Elder

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder news

From: larry young <shelty48@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:33:44 -0700 (PDT)

S. Besendorfer,

By chance are you referring to the David Elder that married Margery
Stewart?  If so, I may be able to help with the Young side of the
Elders.  Their daughter Mary married William Young, my 5th GGF.

Larry

--- George Besendorfer <kinggeorge33@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Lee
> I would like to find out what you have the David you
> mentioned here.  My 
> ancestor is David Elder and I would like to see if
> we can find a connection 
> here.  My cousin is K Chamberlain.  What can you
> tell us about David's 
> descendents.
> S Besendorfer
> 
> 
> >From: Lee Elder <elder@trailnet.com>
> >Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net
> >To: bobelder@erthlink.net
> >Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder news
> >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:46:24 -0500
> >
> >Hi Bob:
> >Glad to hear from you. Yes I have Joseph Elder and
> Mary Mathews with the
> >following children.
> >David, Joshua, Nancy, James (m. to Mary "Polly"
> Mason on 09-09-1789 in
> >Rustburg, Cambell, VA.), John, Marg, Betsy,
> Jeremiah, Ephraim.
> >
> >Bob do you have one of my books? Most of the ones
> that you mentioned are
> >in my book.  Talk to you later.
> >Lee
> >
> >
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder news

From: larry young <shelty48@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:33:44 -0700 (PDT)

S. Besendorfer,

By chance are you referring to the David Elder that married Margery
Stewart?  If so, I may be able to help with the Young side of the
Elders.  Their daughter Mary married William Young, my 5th GGF.

Larry

--- George Besendorfer <kinggeorge33@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Lee
> I would like to find out what you have the David you
> mentioned here.  My 
> ancestor is David Elder and I would like to see if
> we can find a connection 
> here.  My cousin is K Chamberlain.  What can you
> tell us about David's 
> descendents.
> S Besendorfer
> 
> 
> >From: Lee Elder <elder@trailnet.com>
> >Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net
> >To: bobelder@erthlink.net
> >Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder news
> >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:46:24 -0500
> >
> >Hi Bob:
> >Glad to hear from you. Yes I have Joseph Elder and
> Mary Mathews with the
> >following children.
> >David, Joshua, Nancy, James (m. to Mary "Polly"
> Mason on 09-09-1789 in
> >Rustburg, Cambell, VA.), John, Marg, Betsy,
> Jeremiah, Ephraim.
> >
> >Bob do you have one of my books? Most of the ones
> that you mentioned are
> >in my book.  Talk to you later.
> >Lee
> >
> >
> 
> 
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> http://www.msn.com
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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder news

From: George Besendorfer <kinggeorge33@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:03:43 PDT

Larry
I saw that Lee let you know that I am actually looking for a David Elder 
that married Martha Louisa Montgomery, but thanks anyway.
Shanna


>From: larry young <shelty48@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net
>To: elder-news@intrepid.net, elder-news@intrepid.net
>CC: "Mary H. Cole" <CDGG47A@prodigy.com>
>Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Elder news
>Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:33:44 -0700 (PDT)
>
>S. Besendorfer,
>
>By chance are you referring to the David Elder that married Margery
>Stewart?  If so, I may be able to help with the Young side of the
>Elders.  Their daughter Mary married William Young, my 5th GGF.
>
>Larry
>
>--- George Besendorfer <kinggeorge33@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Lee
> > I would like to find out what you have the David you
> > mentioned here.  My
> > ancestor is David Elder and I would like to see if
> > we can find a connection
> > here.  My cousin is K Chamberlain.  What can you
> > tell us about David's
> > descendents.
> > S Besendorfer
> >
> >
> > >From: Lee Elder <elder@trailnet.com>
> > >Reply-To: elder-news@intrepid.net
> > >To: bobelder@erthlink.net
> > >Subject: [Elder-News]: Elder news
> > >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:46:24 -0500
> > >
> > >Hi Bob:
> > >Glad to hear from you. Yes I have Joseph Elder and
> > Mary Mathews with the
> > >following children.
> > >David, Joshua, Nancy, James (m. to Mary "Polly"
> > Mason on 09-09-1789 in
> > >Rustburg, Cambell, VA.), John, Marg, Betsy,
> > Jeremiah, Ephraim.
> > >
> > >Bob do you have one of my books? Most of the ones
> > that you mentioned are
> > >in my book.  Talk to you later.
> > >Lee
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Subject: [Elder-News]: Thomas Elder

From: Bertha Emmett <sigler@ivnet.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:41:27 -0500

I will try again.  It has been awhile since I last posted my query for
Thomas Elder.  He was born about 1822 in NC, and married Elizabeth Jones
about 1847.  Thomas and family were living in Russell Co, KY in 1850.
Their children were: Granville born 1848; Zerrilda born 1849; and Umrah?
born 1850.  There was also a Polly Elder, born about 1790 in VA,
included in their household.  Does anyone have a missing Thomas in their
Elder family?  I have hit a brickwall, and any suggestions would be
appreciated.
Thank you, Bertha

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Thomas Elder

From: Vincent Edward Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:29:22 -0400

I don't know if you've checked 
http://www.FamilySearch.org/   or not, but it seems to me
in searching for *my* Elders that I ran across at least
one or two of these names.

Vince

Bertha Emmett wrote:
> 
> I will try again.  It has been awhile since I last posted my query for
> Thomas Elder.  He was born about 1822 in NC, and married Elizabeth Jones
> about 1847.  Thomas and family were living in Russell Co, KY in 1850.
> Their children were: Granville born 1848; Zerrilda born 1849; and Umrah?
> born 1850.  There was also a Polly Elder, born about 1790 in VA,
> included in their household.  Does anyone have a missing Thomas in their
> Elder family?  I have hit a brickwall, and any suggestions would be
> appreciated.
> Thank you, Bertha

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Subject: [Elder-News]: Re:Joyce J. Slaton

From: JJSlaton@aol.com
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:29:59 EDT

Hello to all of my Elder friends and cousins.

I wanted to thank all of you who offered prayers for my husband Herb during 
his battle with cancer. He fought a good fight but he died last month. I miss 
him terribly but know that he is whole and perfect now and happy with the 
Lord.

If I owe anyone information on the Mathew Elder of Washington Co VA [died 
1783] line, please let me know. 

Thanks again and God bless you all.

Joyce J. Slaton

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re:Joyce J. Slaton

From: Maggi Rackley <rackley@cdsnet.net>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 06:42:37 -0700

Joyce,

My prayers to you and it is good he is at peace at last.

I am someone that had just made contact with you right before this. I am
interested in Matthew Elder as I think my Andrew Elder
born in Ky married Francis Mills (This was in Madison Co KY, their Daughter
Martha Elder married John Todd in Madison Co)was his son. Andrew was the son of
Matthew Elder 22 May 1773 Washington Co, VA and died Morgan Co, IL 11 September
1834. I am interested in any information I can get.
Thank you for you time and thoughts.
Maggi Todd Rackley
PO box 926
Gold HIll Or 97525

JJSlaton@aol.com wrote:

> Hello to all of my Elder friends and cousins.
>
> I wanted to thank all of you who offered prayers for my husband Herb during
> his battle with cancer. He fought a good fight but he died last month. I miss
> him terribly but know that he is whole and perfect now and happy with the
> Lord.
>
> If I owe anyone information on the Mathew Elder of Washington Co VA [died
> 1783] line, please let me know.
>
> Thanks again and God bless you all.
>
> Joyce J. Slaton

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re:Joyce J. Slaton

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 20:47:15 -0400

Dear Joyce,

Bless you Joyce I know you must feel very lonely, I wish I could find a word
to help you, remember if you ever need to talk you can email me.  I will be
thinking of you and keep you in my prayers.  It is so hard.

God Bless

Ann Poe   elderbrooks@msn.com

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Subject: [Elder-News]: sources

From: Bob and Diane Elder <elder@presys.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:47:44 -0700

Please, when you share your information with one another, always cite
your source.  Otherwise the information can be viewed as made up,
useless, or disregarded completely.  There are too many folks out there
that just ramble on and on about family history, and are just making the
whole thing up.  That makes for some real unhappy folks who are serious,
and precise in their research.  Thank  you all.   Diane Elder
elder@presys.com

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Thomas Elder

From: Lelder213@aol.com
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:46:48 EDT

I am also looking for a Thomas Elder b 1797 in Pennsylvania, married to a 
Hannah born in Kentucky.  Children listed on 1850 Illinois Census are Dumah 
(looks like Daniel) B., Lucinda C., and Jemima Jane.  Also listed are Mary 
Elder, 75yrs. and Arthur and Elizabeth Blackburn.

Any help with this branch of the Elders would be greatly appreciated.
Linda Elder

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Thomas Elder

From: Rlaneb1@aol.com
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 03:17:58 EDT

Linda Elder,

Was Dumah in the civil war? It seems I had run across a Dumah Elder in the 
Civil War from Illinois. Wish I had more information for you. Where did your 
Elders live in Illinois?

R.Bangsund
rlaneb1@aol.com

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Thomas Elder

From: Lelder213@aol.com
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:19:30 EDT

Linda Elder,

Was Dumah in the civil war? It seems I had run across a Dumah Elder in the 
Civil War from Illinois. Wish I had more information for you. Where did your 
Elders live in Illinois?

R.Bangsund
rlaneb1@aol.com

Yes, Dumah enlisted from both Nebraska and Missouri, but I haven't located 
him in Illinois yet.  Recently heard they may have come from the Eldarado, 
Illinois area; but I haven't gotten to research that yet.
Thanks for your reply.
Linda Elder

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re:Joyce J. Slaton

From: JJSlaton@aol.com
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:42:47 EDT

Thank you Ann,

It is hard but I know he is in a better place and that is some comfort.  I 
have been keeping busy with grandchildren and trying to reorganize my house.  
  I hope to be on line more often now and to start active research again.

Thanks again for you kind thoughts. God bless!
Joyce

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re:Joyce J. Slaton

From: JJSlaton@aol.com
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:15:45 EDT

Hi Maggi,
You are one of the people I have on my list of must look ups in the Elder 
line.  I have had visiting grandchildren for the past week so please be 
patient.  I will get back to you this week.
Joyce J. Slaton

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re:Joyce J. Slaton

From: Maggi Rackley <rackley@cdsnet.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:20:27 -0700

Joyce,

Thanks for the reply. You go and enjoy those grandchildren, they are a
wonderful blessing. I am very patient. *VBG*

Maggi

JJSlaton@aol.com wrote:

> Hi Maggi,
> You are one of the people I have on my list of must look ups in the Elder
> line.  I have had visiting grandchildren for the past week so please be
> patient.  I will get back to you this week.
> Joyce J. Slaton

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Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re:Joyce J. Slaton

From: "elderbrooks" <elderbrooks@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:32:33 -0400

Joyce,

Your still in my prayers.  Yes he is in a better place.

God Bless you Joyce

Ann Poe
-----Original Message-----
From: JJSlaton@aol.com <JJSlaton@aol.com>
To: elder-news@intrepid.net <elder-news@intrepid.net>
Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Elder-News]: Re:Joyce J. Slaton


>Thank you Ann,
>
>It is hard but I know he is in a better place and that is some comfort.  I
>have been keeping busy with grandchildren and trying to reorganize my
house.
>  I hope to be on line more often now and to start active research again.
>
>Thanks again for you kind thoughts. God bless!
>Joyce
>

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Subject: [Elder-News]: An ELDER

From: Vincent Edward Summers <vsummers@nrao.edu>
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:04:42 -0400

http://www.vmi.edu:80/~archives/./html/HumesWYC.html

Married an ELDER.

Vince

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