July 1996 Elder Sharing List Archive

Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996
To: elder-news@intrepid.net
From: fanfare@intrepid.net (Donna Younkin Logan)
Subject: Announcements

Dear Friends,

I have a couple announcements:

1) updated the membership listing ..... it's at:

http://www.intrepid.net/~fanfare/memberlines.html

2) A couple "unidentified" photographs have been added - these are from a collection of family photographs in our Elder family - but no relationship has been found.

http://www.intrepid.net/~fanfare/Logan.html

3) We have an updated World Wide Web sites page with new links to Member's web pages. Please check them out.

4) If you haven't submitted your Elder line to the "Elder News Sharing list" - the address to send it to is:

elder-news@intrepid.net

5) I am just about finished with the Paxtang Group (Robert & Eleanor ELDER of PA) for the EFN. If you have any information to add, delete or correct please send it to me at:

fanfare@intrepid.net

6) If you have a response for any of the members who have posted queries about their line, PLEASE consider posting it also to the ELDER-NEWS SHARING LIST so that we might all share.

Thanks, donna

Mary Ellen, do you know if your Robert ELDER (b.1788 in Scotland) had a brother named Samuel? I'm looking for Samuel ELDER, supposedly of Scotch origin, who was born in about 1790. He shows up on the Seneca County, OH census in 1830 and 1840, and in Whitley County, IN in 1860 and 1870. His estate was probated in Whitley County, IN in 1881.

Gary Schnell, Eaton, Colorado

When I joined the Elder Family Newsgroup I had only been able to trace my Elder roots back to my gg grandfather Alexander Johnson Elder, born 1828 somewhere in Ohio. Through obituaries and other means I traced him to Jackson County, Ohio in the mid-1800's and his parent's Robert and Rachel Elder. By 1860 Alexander and his family were in Jefferson County, Iowa and Robert and Rachel and family were in neighboring Wapello County, Iowa. I notice three Elder Family cousins with Robert and Mary Elder ancestors in Jackson County, Ohio. Since I could find only one Elder family in Jackson County in 1850, could there be any connection between Robert/Mary and Robert/Rachel? Anyone who can respond, please help.
Thank you.
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Gary Morrison
722 SE Peterson Drive
Ankeny, Iowa 50021-3468
gmorrison@pipeline.com
Researching BAKER, COGHLAN, DAHLSTROM, ELDER, FARR, FORSYTH(E), McKAY, MORRISON, ROBERTSON, SEXTON, SIDWELL, THARP, WATERHOUSE, ZIMMERMAN --

When I joined the Elder Family Newsgroup I had only been able to trace my Elder roots back to my gg grandfather Alexander Johnson Elder, born 1828 somewhere in Ohio. Through obituaries and other means I traced him to Jackson County, Ohio in the mid-1800's and his parent's Robert and Rachel Elder. By 1860 Alexander and his family were in Jefferson County, Iowa and Robert and Rachel and family were in neighboring Wapello County, Iowa. I notice three Elder Family cousins with Robert and Mary Elder ancestors in Jackson County, Ohio. Since there was only one Elder family in Jackson County in 1850, could there be any connection between Robert/Mary and Robert/Rachel? Anyone who can respond, please help. Thank you. --

Gary Morrison

In response to my query of this weekend regarding Robert Elder in Jackson County, Ohio I received a response detailing Robert and Mary Elder from Jackson County in the early to mid-1800's. We could not ascertain from that whether there was a definitive connection with my Robert and Rachel Elder found in Jackson County in 1850. The Ohio material I have access to is limited, therefore what I have at this point is a set of logical linkages. What I surmise to by my Elder line:
* Robert Elder m Rachel
* Alexander Johnson Elder m Marcia Jane Baker
George R. Elder
Lawrence Robert Elder
* Benjamin Baker Elder
Lucy Elder
Clarissa J. Elder
William A. Elder
Luella Elder
Lineas Elder
Martha Elder
Nancy Elder
Eliza J. Elder
Clarrissa Elder

* My direct line ancestors.

I am still looking for more concrete evidence, but here is what I have:

1. Clarissa J. Elder obituary -
Clara Jane Maines
   Clara Jane Elder was born December 12, 1859, to Alexander and Marcia Elder in Jackson county, Ohio. She was united in marriage to Finley Maines on July 3rd, 1878, at her parents home in Davis county. To this union were born seven children, George and Clyde having passed on.
   Those left to mourn their loss are the aged companion, two sons, Edward and Charlie Maines and Annie Steen of Washington State, and Guy and Clay Maines of Drakesville, also fifteen grandchildren and eighteen great grandchildren, besides a host of other relatives and friends. She was of a family of seven children of whom just two are left. They are Wm. Elder of Blakesburg, Iowa, and Ella Ginnett of Burlington, Washington. She had been in ill health for several years but had only been bedfast a week when she departed this life Saturday, Oct. 9th, 1943, at 9:15 a. m. at the age of 83 years, 9 months and 27 days. She will be sadly missed by everyone.
   They had enjoyed 65 years of happy married life. They have several grandsons serving their country who are unable to be here. Funeral services were conducted at the Methodist church at Drakes-ville at 2:30 on the 12th by Rev. Arthur Stookesberry, of Bloomfield. Interment was made in the Breeding cemetery.

Copied from obituary appearing in October 19, 1943 Davis County Republican newspaper, page 5.

2. 1850 Ohio census shows only one Elder in Jackson County. Robert and Rachel are both born in Pennsylvania which is consistent with later census records of Alexander.

3. 1850 Ohio census shows a Benjamin Baker family in neighboring Jackson Township, Jackson County. This Alexander's wife's family. His wife was Marcia Jane Baker and her obituary states she married Alexander in Ohio in 1850. I had not been able to trace her family in Ohio because there are literally hundreds of Bakers in Ohio. I got to her family through locating Robert/Rachel. This is her family because Lutia is Benjamin's wife and Lutia shows up in Alexander's household in the late 1800's and is identified as mother-in-law. In addition, her birthplace (NY) and age are consistent matches in all census'. By the way, Alexander and Marcia's second son (my g grandfather) was Benjamin Baker Elder. He may have been born around the time that Benjamin died and the name was in his honor. I am still trying to establish this.

4. The 1860 Iowa census shows Robert/Rachel Elder family and Alexander/Marcia Elder family within a few short miles of each other in adjoining counties. Robert was in Wapello County and Alexander was in Jefferson County.

I feel I am on pretty solid ground, but obviously verification still is required. I am going to try later this week locating Robert's burial location in Iowa, then his death date, and then an obituary to see if I can identify ancestors. I am quite confident this Robert is the Robert who was son of Robert and Mary Elder of Jackson County.

If this information strikes a chord with anyone let's communicate. I can provide some information on the Robert/Rachel and Alexander/Marcia line and would like to hear of more information on the other Elders from Jackson County.
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Gary Morrison
722 SE Peterson Drive
Ankeny, Iowa 50021-3468
gmorrison@pipeline.com

Does anyone have information about the family of David and Ann (Nesbit) Elder? I have him as having been born in Maryland in 1764 and Ann as having been born in Penn. in 1771. They were married (where?) in 1790 and had children: Robert, Sarah, Mary, John Nesbit, Ann, James, Polly Taylor, Nancy T., and Joshua David. I would appreciate having more data on this family. Thanks.

Best wishes,

Dwight C. Stewart
Louisville, Kentucky