Elder Family Research

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Elton Elder III added ELDER: Looking for ancestors of Robert G Elder (1864-1932) Married Minnie D Moncrief on 2/17/1894 In Penns Grove, NJ
at
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Elder-3912

Obituary:
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/news-journalonline/name/elton-elder-obituary?id=12300898

Elton R. "Bob" Elder, 82, of New Smyrna Beach, FL was called home on August 1, 2012. Bob was born in Harrisonville, NJ and graduated from Woodstown High School in Woodstown, NJ. He was a veteran of the United States Air Force where he served during the Korean War. Prior to retiring to Florida in 1990, he was employed by Mobil Oil in Paulsboro, NJ where he retired after 30 years. He served on the Mantua Township Committee and co-founded the Rocking Horse Ranch Nursery School and Elder's Place Delicatessen, both located in Barnsboro, NJ. He was a season ticket holder for the Philadelphia Eagles, enjoyed NASCAR and was an avid bowler and boater. Bob was preceded in death by his devoted wife of 61 years Doris L. Elder (nee Young) in 2011 and by his grandson Casey Silk in 2005. He is survived by his son and daughter-in-law Rob and Phyllis Elder of Barnsboro, NJ; his son and daughter-in-law Rick and Teresa Elder of Morristown, TN; his daughter Mindy Silk of Somers Point, NJ; and son and daughter-in-law Scott and Beverly Elder of Chipley, FL. He is also survived by his grandchildren Terri and John Flint, Karen and Michael Doucette, Sean and Maanasi Silk, Bob and Joia Elder, Bill Elder and Steve Silk; and his great-grandchildren Joe and Alex Flint, James and Julia Doucette and Charlotte Elder; and a large extended family. A celebration of life will be held at 2:00 pm Monday, August 6 at the American Legion, Post 285, 4497 US 1, Edgewater, FL. In lieu of flowers the family requests that you thank a veteran for their service to our country.

Sent Rootsweb/Freepages query for New Jersey - Trenton NJ Cemetery posted
at
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/genealogy/ed/TrentonCem.htm

No DNA found yet, but interesting Scotland origins on the
cemetery marker for James ELDER and pottery makers.

More about family in Trenton NJ
at
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/genealogy/ed/JohnElderTrentonNJ.htm

Also sending excerpts of a New Jersey posting for Camden NJ names from long posting:
at
https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/genealogy/ed/ElderOfCamdenNJ.htm -- Many links out of date.
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Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com

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Sending to Rob ELDER for CAMDEN NEW JERSEY info:

A different New Jersey query for a different JAMES P. ELDER - CAMDEN descendant kit has German origins - very odd:
I have more webpages for CAMDEN posted in Rootsweb/Freepages (some below).

I asked for Obituary to Camden Public Lib: (1/2/2012)
at
http://www.camdencountylibrary.org
Resource:
From Ancestry Soc. Sec. Index
Name:     James Elder
SSN:     139-05-7591
Last Residence:     08088  Vincentown, Burlington, New Jersey
Born:     2 Jun 1906
Last Benefit:     08109  Merchantville, Camden, New Jersey
Died:     Aug 1984
State (Year) SSN issued:     New Jersey (Before 1951)
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Kathy Elder Baylor wrote:
  "This is INDEED my grandfather.
 I had heard he remarried at some point but had no idea of his wife’s name..."

Received e-mail from Camden Public Library on 1/4/2012:
 with attached .pdf file of news article for James P. ELDER (1906-1984),
   from Issue of Aug. 24, 1984, Camden Courier Post
    "d. 22 Aug 1984,  78 years old of Vincentown, NJ"
    "husband of Mary C. nee Husmann"
     "in Catholic Mass"
  Children with similar names, John, Joseph, George, some of TX.

Nancy Posted original obit from News as .pdf
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/genealogy/ed/JamesPElderCamdenObit1984.pdf

Transcription:
ELDER
On August 22, 1984.  James P. Age 78 years.  Of Vincentown, N.J. Beloved husband of Mary C. (Nee Husmann).  Also survived by five sons, John of Tex., Joseph of Camden, James of Tex., George of Collingswood and Arthur of Texas.  One step-son Lee Collins of Pennsauken.  Six daughters, Esther Taylor of Phila., Mary Auletto of Haddon Hts, Dorothy Narciso of Lindenwold, Patricia Norman of Tenn., Kathleen Bay of Mt. Laurel and Arlene Carroll of Hinella.  One step-daughter, Mary VanWormer.  Two sisters, Catherine Hamill and Mary Wosniak, both of Wilmington, De.  Forty-four grandchildren and seventeen great-grandchildren.  Relatives and friends are invited to attend the funeral Monday 8:30am at the Edward P. Leonard Jr. Funeral Home, 35th St. & River Ave., Camden, N.J.  Mass of Christian burial will be celebrated 9:30 am at St. Anthony of Padua R.C. Church, 28th St. & River Ave. Camden.
Entombment Calvary Mausoleum.  Friends may call Sunday after 7pm at the funeral home.  Parking on premises.  The family requests in lieu of flowers, donations be made to the
American Cancer Society.
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Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com

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More about the ELDER family of Trenton NJ
at
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/genealogy/ed/JohnElderTrentonNJ.htm

Ancestry.com 1880 census
Name: George Elder
Home in 1880: Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
BirthPlace: CINTI
Relation to head-of-household: Son
Father's name: James
Father's birthplace: SCOTTL.
Mother's name: Elizabeth
Mother's birthplace: SCOTTL.
Marital status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Household Members:
Name Age
James Elder 39
Elizabeth Elder 40
Esabella Elder 14
James Elder 12
John Elder 9
William Elder 9
David Elder 7
Elizabeth Elder 3
George Elder 1
Martin Miller 30
Hugh Greene 34
John Turner 28
Source Citation: Year: 1880;
Census Place: Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio;
Roll: T9_1026; Family History Film: 1255026; Page: 102.4000;
Enumeration District: 151; Image: 0750.

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Heritage Quest - Trenton NJ 1900 census
ELDER, WILLIAM (1900 U.S. Census)
NEW JERSEY , MERCER, 5-WD TRENTON
Age: 29, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: OH
Series: T623 Roll: 982 Page: 213

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JOHN ELDER
1900 Trenton New Jersey
(1900 U.S. Census)
NEW JERSEY
Series: T623 Roll: 982 Page: 337

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1910
Name: John Elder
Age in 1910: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
BirthPlace: Ohio
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Spouses's Name: Ellen
Home in 1910: Trenton Ward 8, Mercer, New Jersey
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Elder 39
Ellen Elder 38
Nollie Elder 16
Agnes Elder 13
Elizabeth 12
John 12
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Trenton Ward 8, Mercer, New Jersey;
Roll: T624_896; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 75; Image: 1097.
"On this 1910 census page the census taker
writes at the bottom of the page-- the same house number
for John ELDER and Ellen, again, and then added
the names of their last 2 children, Elizabeth and John!

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1920 census NJ
Name: John Elder
Home in 1920: Trenton Ward 8, Mercer, New Jersey
Age: 49 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
BirthPlace: Ohio
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Ellen
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Marital status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 1134
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Elder 49 (Potter)
Ellen Elder 48
Elizabeth Boston 23 (daughter)
William Boston 24 (Son in law)
John Wright 28 (Son in law)
John Wright 5 (Nephew)
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Trenton Ward 8, Mercer, New Jersey;
Roll: T625_1052; Page: 15A; Enumeration District: 78; Image: 1134.
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1920
ELDER, JOHN JR (1920 U.S. Census)
NEW JERSEY , MERCER, 7-WD; TRENTON
Age: 21, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: NJ
Series: T625 Roll: 1052 Page: 199
(by himself) .pdf file for ( JOHN JR 1920 NJ)

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1930
Name: John Elder
Home in 1930: Trenton, Mercer, New Jersey
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
BirthPlace: Ohio
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Ellen
Race: White
Household Members:
Name Age
John Elder 57
Ellen Elder 56
(Bastian, Elizabeth Elder 31 daughter
(Bastian, John Elder 14 g-son
William Bastian 34 son in law (Proprietor, store)
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Trenton, Mercer, New Jersey;
Roll: 1364; Page: 4B; Enumeration District: 32; Image: 10.0.

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Ancestry.com
Social Security Death index:
Name: William Bastian
SSN: 146-26-3352
Last Residence: 08638 Trenton, Mercer, New Jersey,
Born: 6 Aug 1896
Died: Apr 1969
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (1951-1952 )
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Name: Elizabeth Bastian
SSN: 142-03-5808
Last Residence: 08638 Trenton, Mercer, New Jersey
Born: 4 Sep 1897
Died: Mar 1970
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (Before 1951 )
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Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com

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Page2 -- More about TRENTON NJ family
at
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/genealogy/ed/JohnElderTrentonNJ2.htm

MORE RELATIVES OF JAMES ELDER , b. 1842 Scotland
Resident of Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio, in 1870 and 1880,
and Trenton, Mercer County, New Jersey in 1900
Immigrated before 1870
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William's sister Nellie married Charles Hancock More about HANCOCK family of Staffordshire, England

1920
Name: Nellie Hancock
Home in 1920: Detroit Ward 11, Wayne, Michigan
Age: 35 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
BirthPlace: New Jersey
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouses's Name: Charles
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Marital status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Household Members:
Charles Hancock -- 39 England England England (Electrician, factory)
Nellie Hancock -- 35 NJ Scot Scot (1885)
Charles F Hancock -- 17 NJ ENG NJ (helper, shop) (1903)
Elizabeth Hancock -- 11 NJ ENG NJ (1909)
William Hancock-- 8 NJ ENG NJ (1912)
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Detroit Ward 11, Wayne, Michigan;
Roll: T625_810; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 344; Image: 675.
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Social Sec. Death Index (matches son Charles b. date of 1903)
Name: Charles Hancock
SSN: 374-01-2266
Last Residence: 48203 Highland Park, Wayne, Michigan
Born: 28 May 1903
Died: Dec 1977
State (Year) SSN issued: Michigan (Before 1951 )
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Also complete death date: 01 December 1977:
Michigan Death Index
Name: Charles F HANCOCK
Birth Date: 28 May 03
Death Date: 01 December 77
Gender: Male
Residence: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
Place of Death: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
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1910
Name: James Elder
Age in 1910: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
BirthPlace: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Spouses's Name: Susan
Home in 1910: Trenton Ward 12, Mercer, New Jersey
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1875
Household Members:
Name Age
James Elder 43
Susan Elder 37
Moire Elder 11
James Elder 9
Thomas Elder 7
Elizabeth Elder 5
Robert Elder 4
John Elder 2
Catherine Elder 1
Margaret Mc Euddar 27

Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Trenton Ward 12, Mercer, New Jersey;
Roll: T624_897; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 93; Image: 854.

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1920
Name: James Elder
Home in 1920: Trenton Ward 12, Mercer, New Jersey
Age: 53 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
BirthPlace: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Susan
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Marital status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of immigration: 1870
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 491
Household Members:
Name Age
James Elder 53 (1867) Potter
Susan Elder 46 (1874)
Morrie Elder 21 (1899) teacher, city school
Thomas Elder 16 (1904) Potter
Elizabeth Elder 14 (1906)
Robert Elder 13 (1907)
John Elder 12 (1908)
Catherine Elder 11 (1909)
William Elder 7 (1913)
Isabel Elder 5 (1915)
Catherine McCotter 75 (1845) (mother-in-law) SCOT SCOT SCOT
Margaret McCotter 30 (1890) (sister-in-law) SCOT SCOT SCOT

Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Trenton Ward 12, Mercer, New Jersey;
Roll: T625_1054; Page: 17A; Enumeration District: 100; Image: 491.
Catherine McCotter and Margaret immigrated in 1891.
Catherine McCotter Naturalized 1897. (look for papers)
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1930
Name: James Elder
Home in 1930: Trenton, Mercer, New Jersey
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
BirthPlace: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Susan
Race: White
Household Members:
James Elder -- 62 (b. 1868 SCOT SCOT SCOT) Health officer, pottery
Susan Elder -- 56 (b. 1874 SCOT SCOT SCOT)
Moira Elder --30 (1900) Teacher, public school
Thomas Elder-- 27 (1903) Examiner, State house
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Elizabeth Elder-- 25 dau (NJ SCOT SCOT) -- ---Teacher, Public School
John Elder -------- 22 son (NJ SCOT SCOT) -- Salesman, Toy novelties
Kathryn Elder ---- 21 dau (NJ SCOT SCOT)---- Teacher, Public School
William Elder ----18 son (NJ SCOT SCOT)
Isabel Elder -------15 dau (NJ SCOT SCOT)

Source Citation: Year: 1930;
Census Place: Trenton, Mercer, New Jersey;
Roll: 1365; Page: 14B; Enumeration District: 64; Image: 593.0

This census asks Year of Immigration and whether naturalized.
James immigration year: 1870 (says No - not naturalized
Susan immigration year: 1890 (says No - not naturalized)

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James Orr ELDER,
Son of James and Susan ELDER

--WWI Draft Registration
Posted handwritten card (.jpg graphic) on my webpages:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/JamesOrrElderDraftReg.jpg

Name: James Orr Elder
City: Trenton
County: Mercer
State: New Jersey
Birth Date: 17 May 1900
Race: White
Roll: 1754444
DraftBoard: 3
Source Citation: Registration Location: Mercer County, New Jersey;
Roll: 1754444; Draft Board: 3.
Mothers name: Susan
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Social Security Death Index: (birth date matches closely)
Name: James Elder
SSN: 147-05-5214
Last Residence: New Jersey
Born: 18 May 1900
Died: Sep 1963
State (Year) SSN issued:
New Jersey (Before 1951)

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James Orr ELDER --was Bookkeeper in 1920 census:
1920
Name: James O Elder
Home in 1920: Kearny Ward 1, Hudson, New Jersey
Age: 19 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
BirthPlace: New Jersey
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Marital status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Household Members:
Name Age
James O Elder 19
Occ: Bookkeeper,
State Memorial Hospital for Disabled Soldiers

Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Kearny Ward 1, Hudson, New Jersey;
Roll: T625_1048; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 270; Image: 628.
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1920
Name: Clarence Burton
Home in 1920: Trenton Ward 14, Mercer, New Jersey
Age: 32 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
BirthPlace: New Jersey
Relation to Head of House: Son-in-law
Spouses's Name: Esther
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: New Jersey
Marital status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Household Members:
Name Age
William B Elder 53
Emily Elder 49
Clarence Burton 32 (son-in-law) (brick mason)
Esther Burton 31 dau
Martha Burton 7 g-dau
William Burton 6 g-son
Emily Burton 4 5/12 g-dau
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Trenton Ward 14, Mercer, New Jersey;
Roll: T625_1052; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 111; Image: 503.
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1930
Name: William Elder
Home in 1930: Trenton, Mercer, New Jersey
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
BirthPlace: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouses's Name: Emily
Race: White
Household Members:
Name Age
William Elder 58 Scot (printer, potter)
Emily Elder 57 Oh
Esther Burton 38 dau
Martha Burton 17 g-dau
William Burton 16 d-son
Emily Burton 14 g-dau

Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Trenton, Mercer, New Jersey;
Roll: 1365; Page: 32B; Enumeration District: 68; Image: 806.0.
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1930 census Ancestry.con handwritten page for William ELDER b. 1872,
Looks like "Oak Lane" in the margin near the housenumbers for Elder.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/WilliamElder1930Trenton.jpg

Searching mapquest for a map of "Oak Lane" in Trenton,
found a map with several nearby entries in NorthWest Trenton:
Oak Lane - Ewing map

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1930 census
Name: Robert Elder
Home in 1930: Merchantville, Camden, New Jersey
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
BirthPlace: New Jersey (f: SCOT m: SCOT)
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Race: White
Occ: Teacher, Public School

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Soc. Sec. Death Index:
Name: Robert Elder
SSN: 141-07-2613
Last Residence: 32780 Titusville, Brevard, Florida
Born: 12 Nov 1907
Last Benefit: 91001 Altadena, Los Angeles, California,
Died: Apr 1977
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (Before 1951 )

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List of ELDER names in 1948 TRENTON CITY DIRECTORY.
Earliest listed in Lawrenceville Branch Library, Mercer County Library Network
Sent via e-mail by Reference Librarian, 8-11-2006.

Karl S. Elder (Elder's Esso Station, 1502 Princeton Ave.) and
Martha L. Elder (h)742 Trumbull Ave.
Earl F. Elder (chief addressograph operator, County Board of
Elections, Ewing Twp.) (h) 2314 Columbia Ave.
Elizabeth F. Elder (teacher, Robbins High School) (h)
105 N. Gouverneur
D(oris) Jas Elder (salesman) 282 S. Logan
John Elder 1302 N. Olden Ave.
John H. Elder (driver Ry Express agency) and
Thelma J. Elder (h) 199 Hollywood Drive
John R. Elder (sales rep) and Helen C. Elder, 440 Bellevue Ave.
Margaret Elder (widow of Francis R. Elder) 445 Garfield Ave.
Matilda L. Elder (Fairfacts Co.), (h) 152 Hamilton Ave.
Susan M. Elder (widow of Jas Elder) 105 N Gouverneur
Thomas G. Elder (Matilde L.) 152 Hamilton Ave.
William L. Elder (accountant) and Anne F. Elder (h) 206 W Hanover

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U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 Record
Name: William L Elder
Birth Year: 1912
Race: White, citizen
Nativity State or Country: New Jersey
State: New Jersey
County or City: Mercer
Enlistment Date: 10 Mar 1942
Enlistment State: New Jersey
Enlistment City: Fort Dix
Branch: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial - Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency,
plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life
Education: 2 years of college
Civil Occupation: Installer-Repairman, Telephone And Telegraph or
Chief, Clerk or Railway Shop Dispatcher or Manager, Production or Entertainment Director
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Height: 66
Weight: 168

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Social Sec. Death Index: (dau of James and Susan)
Name: Isabel E. Hendricks
SSN: 153-07-8675
Last Residence: 08758 Waretown, Ocean, New Jersey,
Born: 26 Jan 1915
Died: 6 Dec 1993
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (Before 1951 )
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OCEAN CO NJ lookups:
Linda Kay, Librarian
oceancounty.history@verizon.net
Obit and gravestone lookups for Ocean County individuals at the Ocean Co. Historical Society:
We have funeral home records from 1870-1960; newspaper obits from 1870-May 2004;
and a database with information from 66,000 gravestones or cemetery records (all OC cemeteries except St. Joseph's).
_________________
Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com