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Elders of Upstate New York

 
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 4:27 pm    Post subject: Elders of Upstate New York Reply with quote

I am searching for ancestors or descendants of an Elder line from Upstate New York:

Robert ELDER and Hannah FLOYD emigrated from Ireland to Jefferson Co., NY, c. 1818. According to several sources, Robert was a weaver. The Elders first settled in Watertown, NY, where they were joined by another Irish family, headed by John MULLIN, also a weaver. Over the next 4 decades of his life, Robert Elder moved around a great deal, mostly in Jefferson County: in 1820, Rodman, NY; in 1830, LeRay, NY; in 1840, Watertown, NY again; and in 1850, Camden, Oneida Co., NY. He died in 1855 and was buried in Huntingtonville Rural cemetery, along with his wife, who died in 1864, and a man I presume was his father, James Elder (d. 1855, age 96). Robert and Hannah had at least three children, James and Margaret, and Matthew.

James ELDER (b. 9 Jun 1820, Watertown; d. 6 Feb 1891, Volney, NY) married Eliza Jane MCBRIDE (b. abt 1825 (father b. NY; mother b. Ireland)) on 12 April 1841. They were married by Rev. Fields, "a minister of the Gospel" without a church. Like his father, James also worked as a weaver (he was described as a "boss weaver and spinner") in Watertown. After enlisting from Dexter into Co. H, 94th NYVI, he served as band leader the regimental band in 1862. After his return from service, he was involved in the Watertown town band. He and his family moved to Fulton, Oswego Co., not long after the war. In Fulton, he ran a restaurant and lead the Fulton town band. He died in 1881.

Margaret ELDER, married Samuel GREAVES, an English immigrant who settled in Watertown. According to an unverified source, they met while singing in the choir.

Matthew ELDER (b. abt 1840, Jefferson Co.; d. 8 Jan 1900, Glens Falls, Warren Co., NY) enlisted in the Civil War from Dexter in Co. K, 94th NYVI. Like James, he also served in the regimental band in 1862. After working as a mason's apprentice in Watertown, he relocated to Fort Edward, Washington Co., NY around 1876. Like James, Matthew was involved in music all of his life, serving as the leader of the town band for Glens Falls, NY. Matthew married Harriet BRISTOL (b. Mar 1861, Fort Edward, NY; d. 12 Dec 1926). They are both buried in Union Cemetery, Fort Edward, NY.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:22 am    Post subject: ELDER of NY Reply with quote

I don't see any of these NY locations
in my ELDER files, but I could
try to find more about them.
Some of the similar names might have been
relatives of the ELDER families in
PA, e.g. ROBERT, MATTHEW...
Will look for more clues today.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:45 am    Post subject: ELDER in NY Reply with quote

You probably have these entries, but I'm adding some info to my
files, interesting "Distinguished Service" notation in Civil War:

Ancestry.com
Name: James Elder ,  
Enlistment Date: 04 February 1862
Distinguished Service: DISTINGUISHED SERVICE
Side Served: Union
State Served: New York
Unit Numbers: 1602 1602
Service Record: Enlisted as a Private on 04 February 1862 at the age of 40
Enlisted in Company H, 94th Infantry Regiment New York on 14 February 1862.
Mustered out Company H, 94th Infantry Regiment New York on 27 August 1862 in Washington, DC
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1850 census
Name: Jas Elder
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Birth place: New York
Gender: Male
Home in 1850
(City,County,State): Watertown, Jefferson, New York
Image Source: Year: 1850; Census Place: Watertown, Jefferson, New York;
 Roll: M432_514; Page: 301; Image: 358.

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Ancestry.com
1860 census
Name: James Elder
Age in 1860: 39
Birthplace: New York
Home in 1860: Brownville, Jefferson, New York
Gender: Male
Head of Household: James Elder
Household
Post Office: Limerick
Image Source: Year: 1860; Census Place: Brownville, Jefferson, New York; 
Roll: M653_761; Page: 727; Image: 734.
Household:
Eliza Elder 36 1823 New York Female
Henry Elder 17 1842 New York Male
Frances Elder 15 1844 New York Female
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:20 pm    Post subject: Robert Elder b. 1830 died 1863 Reply with quote

Searching Jefferson County NY Genweb, found:
SANDERSON'S JEFFERSON COUNTY, NY
CIVIL WAR SOLDIERS MASTER FILE:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyjeffer/smaste.htm
Elder Robert _ 1830 31 035thNYVI E N 05/09/61 WAT N N N N N N N N N N N 00/00/00 N N 1863 33 Unk N N      
Elder James _ 1822 40 094thNYVI H N 02/04/62 BRW N N N N N N N N N N N 08/27/62 N Unk 00/00/00 0 Unk N N     
Elder Matthew _ 1841 21 094thNYVI K N 02/01/62 BRW N N N N N N N N N N N 08/27/62 N Unk 00/00/00 0 Unk N N      
Elder Henry J 1843 19 094thNYVI E N 02/01/62 HNF N N N N N N N N N N N 08/27/62 N Unk 00/00/00 0 Unk N N

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This Robert Elder b. 1830 could have been a son in the Civil War also.
On this report, Enlisted 35th NYVI Co E 5/9/61 at Watertown, NY Died 1863 age 33
Could have been killed in Chancellorsville Campaign in 1863...maybe more info online?
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NEW YORK INFANTRY - Civil War
http://www.civilwararchive.com/Unreghst/unnyinf3.htm#17
35th Regiment Infantry "Jefferson County Regiment"
Organized at Elmira, N.Y., and mustered in June 11, 1861. Moved to Washington, D.C., attached to Hunter's Brigade, Division of the Potomac, to October, 1861. Wadsworth's Brigade, McDowell's Division, Army of the Potomac, to March, 1862. 2nd Brigade, King's 3rd Division, 1st Army Corps, Army of the Potomac, to April, 1862. 2nd Brigade, King's Division, Dept. of the Rappahannock, to June, 1862. 3rd Brigade, 1st Division, 3rd Corps, Pope's Army of Virginia, to September, 1862. 3rd Brigade, 1st Division, 1st Army Corps, Army of the Potomac, to January, 1863. Provost Marshal General Patrick's Command, Army of the Potomac, to June, 1863.

SERVICE.--Duty in the Defenses of Washington, D. C., until March, 1862. Advance on Manassas, Va., March 10-15. At Upton's Hill until April 9. McDowell's advance on Falmouth, Va., April 9-19. Duty at Falmouth until May 25. McDowell's advance on Richmond May 25-29. Operations against Jackson June 1-21. Duty at Falmouth until July 24. Reconnaissance to Orange Court House July 24-27. Battle of Cedar Mountain August 9. Pope's Campaign in Northern Virginia August 16-September 2. Fords of the Rappahannock August 21-23. Battles of Gainesville August 28; Groveton August 29; Bull Run August 30. Maryland Campaign September 6-22. South Mountain September 14. Antietam September 16-17. Duty at Sharpsburg until October 30. Movement to Falmouth, Va., October 30-November 19. Battle of Fredericksburg, Va., December 12-15. "Mud March" January 20-24, 1863. Provost duty at Aquia Creek until June. Chancellorsville Campaign April 27-May 6. Mustered out June 5, 1863, expiration of term. Three years men transferred to 80th New York Infantry.
Regiment lost during service 1 Officer and 40 Enlisted men killed and mortally wounded and 53 Enlisted men by disease. Total 94.
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