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"PETER ELDER" Family in POWHATAN VA - query by J2

 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:08 pm    Post subject: "PETER ELDER" Family in POWHATAN VA - query by J2 Reply with quote

(J2) kit #222675 moved from PA,
now lives in POWHATAN, POWHATAN COUNTY, VA.

He found some “PETER ELDER” names there.

Here’s one in the 1940 census and found in Ancestry.com tree By "DavidTCONNELLY”
at
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/27338179/person/2041853527/facts

Map from POWHATAN to PETERSBURG
47 min (44.9 mi) via US-60 E and VA-288
at
https://www.google.com/search?q=powhatan+va+to+petersburg+va&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

86 ELDER names in BLANDFORD CEMETERY
at
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSiman=1&GScid=49478&GSfn=&GSln=elder

Different "WARD" locations:
ATWILL MOSS ELDER in WARD LL

CLAUDE M. ELDER (1892-1966) with marker photo
listed at WARD EE, Sec. 23, SQ 1

More....
WARD GG (DAVID ELDER)
WARD NN (BENJAMIN ELDER)
WARD QQ (JAMES ELDER)
WARD T (CARLTON)
and others...

Atwill Moss Elder (or ATWELL)
Birth 20 NOV 1910 • Dinwiddie, Virginia, USA
Death 13 NOVEMBER 1967 • Colonial Heights, Colonial Heights City, Virginia (Petersburg)
Census:
01 Apr 1940
residence: Rte 60, Spencer, Powhatan, Virginia
Occupation: Road worker
wife: Nellie

FINDAGRAVE - Photo of marker
Plot: Ward LL, Section 9, Square 6b
at
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=ELD&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=48&GScntry=4&GSsr=1&GRid=96936641&

Blandford Cemetery - next to Blandford Church
at
http://www.petersburgva.gov/Index.aspx?NID=303

"Begin your tour of Historic Blandford Church and Cemetery at the
Blandford Visitors' Reception Center, 111 Rochelle Lane, Petersburg, VA 23803, (804) 733-2396.
The reception center features a display of artifacts associated with the
history of the Cemetery and Church as well as a gift shop. "

City Office:
319 S. Crater Road
Petersburg, VA 23803
Ph: 804-733-2397
Hours
Monday - Friday - 8:30 a.m. - 5 p.m.

ATWILL MOSS ELDER
Birth: Nov. 20, 1910
Death: Nov. 13, 1967

Family links:
Parents:
Charlie Thomas Elder (1864 - 1936)
Mary Collier Connelly Elder (1873 - 1940)

Spouse:
Nellie A. Elder (1914 - 1976)

Children:
Margaret Ann Elder (1936 - 1937)*

Sibling:
Lillian Pearl Elder Holt (1898 - 1988)*
Atwill Moss Elder (1910 - 1967)

Burial:
Blandford Cemetery
Petersburg
Petersburg City
Virginia, USA
Plot: Ward LL, Section 9, Square 6b
Created by: Mandy G.
Record added: Sep 12, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 96936641

Father:
Charles Thomas Elder
Birth 15 MAY 1864 • Virginia, USA
Death 02 JUN 1936 • Dinwiddie, Dinwiddie, Virginia, USA
Found in WorldConnect database by Chandler Elder. (Cici Elder)
at
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3134792&id=I30

FATHER:
Name: Wilkins T ELDER
Sex: M
Birth: ABT 1816 in Virginia


found in
Ancestry.com “ELDER FAMILY TREE” by “pelderva”
for
Wilkins T Elder. (Not traced)
Birth ABT 1816 • Dinwiddie County, Virginia
Death Unknown

FINDAGRAVE for CHARLES: (no parents listed).
Cemetery has 22 Elder names
At
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=74378050&ref=acom

CHARLIE THOMAS ELDER
Birth: 
May 15, 1864
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA
Death: 
Jun. 2, 1936
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA
Family links: 
 Spouse:
  Mary Collier Connelly Elder (1873 - 1940)
 
 Children:
  Lillian Pearl Elder Holt (1898 - 1988)*
  Atwill Moss Elder (1910 - 1967)*
 
Burial:
Rocky Run United Methodist Church Cemetery
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA
 ***
Google map says:
From POWHATAN VA TO FARNHAM VA --- 1 h 51 min (98.3 mi) via US-360 E
at
https://www.google.com/search?q=powhatan+va+to+farnham+va&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

There is a Farnham Church there and a Motel nearby.
A 2017 "PETER ELDER" reunion was mentioned online but I don't believe it was held there after all.

Others of that ELDER line are still around Richmond and Petersburg, VA.
William ELDER's WILL of 1754 mentions his slaves:
... "I bequeath to my son Ephraim Elder my negro boy named Robin.
"I Give my negro boy called Tommy to my son Joseph Elder.
"I bequeath my Negro boy named Rollo to my Daughter Maryann.
.... ."I devise the use of my negro woman Kate to my loving wife Ann Elder
during her natural life, And the Child with whom the said Negro Woman
at present goes with I devise when born to my Daughter Winnefred.
... "And my desire is that the said Child be kept with its mother till it
shall be two years of age, unless my said Daughter shall incline to take it sooner.
And the said Negro woman Kate I devise after my said wifes decease to my son
Charles Elder to remain on the Plantation & Land to him devised." —

Possible slave descendant: 1940 census
Name: James Elder
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1903
Gender: Male
Race: Negro (Black)
Birthplace: Virginia
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: 40602
Home in 1940: Spencer, Powhatan, Virginia
Inferred Residence in 1935: Rural, Isle of Wight, Virginia
Residence in 1935: Rural, Isle of Wight, Virginia
Resident on farm in 1935: Yes
Sheet Number: 2A
Institution: Virginia State Farm (Prison)
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: None
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 1

African American Cemetery - People's Memorial
Petersburg, VA (1 burial for ELDER listed)
for
"PATSY ELDER 1871-1947" Plot 241
at
https://peoplescemeteryvirginia.wikispaces.com/About+the+Cemetery
Includes...."final resting place of abolitionists, Civil War soldiers, slaves, escaped slaves and free men of color."
_________________
Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:26 am    Post subject: ELDER names in Dinwiddie County VA cemeteries Reply with quote

Search - ELDER in Dinwiddie County VA cemeteries
FINDAGRAVE
at
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSfn=&GSmn=&GSln=elder&GSbyrel=all&GSby=&GSdyrel=all&GSdy=&GScntry=4&GSst=48&GScnty=2829&GSgrid=&df=all&GSob=n

Google map - POWHATAN TO DINWIDDIE VA
1 h 3 min (61.7 mi) via VA-288
at
https://www.google.com/search?q=powhatan+va+to+dinwiddie+va&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

POWHATAN TO DARVILLS
52 min (42.7 mi) via VA-153 S
at
https://www.google.com/search?q=powhatan+va+to+darvills+va&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Grave Search Results
Records 1 to 40 (of 51 total matches)

Elder, Alese Williams 24556130
b. Apr. 27, 1919 d. Oct. 21, 1990 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Annie May 24541088
b. unknown d. unknown Mansons United Methodist
McKenney
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Aubrey Ernest 24557057
b. Mar. 1, 1915 d. Mar. 1, 1915 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Betty Gertrude Coleman 24555992
b. Sep. 15, 1908 d. Feb. 15, 1996 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Blanch Virginia Coleman 24556608
b. Sep. 26, 1907 d. Sep. 23, 1996 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Bobbie Branch 89957248
b. Oct. 21, 1884 d. Jun. 2, 1960 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Chambers Goode 89861914
b. Mar. 17, 1914 d. Jun. 2, 1936 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Charles Edward 14141091
b. Jan. 24, 1857 d. 1898 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Charles Rennie 89880250
b. Mar. 19, 1895 d. May 19, 1966 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Charlie H. 24556653
b. 1902 d. 1904 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Charlie Thomas 74378050
b. May 15, 1864 d. Jun. 2, 1936 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Clyde Lee 24555924
b. Dec. 9, 1904 d. Feb. 12, 1993 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Edward Guy "Edway" 90117672
b. Nov. 5, 1877 d. Jun. 26, 1948 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Edward M 94236385
b. Aug. 18, 1915 d. Mar. 9, 1975 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Edward M 14135028
b. Feb. 20, 1829 d. Feb. 20, 1905 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Elizabeth Jane "Betty Jane" Perkins 66105260
b. Sep. 30, 1834 d. May 26, 1919 Winfield Family Cemetery
Winfields Mill
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Ernest L. 24557364
b. Apr. 18, 1877 d. Oct. 11, 1935 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Flornie D. 24557163
b. Oct. 21, 1884 d. Mar. 21, 1957 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Harold Bell 24558853
b. May 26, 1924 d. Feb. 20, 2004 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Harvey Mell 93954813
b. May 26, 1924 d. May 20, 1976 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Helen Bruce Cliborne 24558874
b. Aug. 14, 1927 d. May 8, 2002 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Henrietta M Hicks 14154334
b. Jun. 2, 1838 d. Mar. 3, 1907 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, James Melvin 24556940
b. Jul. 28, 1875 d. Mar. 4, 1936 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Joel L. 42709979
b. Nov. 1, 1848 d. Feb. 4, 1914 Smiths Grove Cemetery
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, John Alton 24556289
b. Sep. 23, 1907 d. Sep. 25, 1972 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Laura Lewis 59968519
b. Aug. 2, 1871 d. Dec. 2, 1956 Hawkins Memorial Cemetery
Ford
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Lennie Lyle 93938330
b. Feb. 28, 1910 d. Mar. 18, 1970 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Leon Harris 74383043
b. Oct. 19, 1925 d. Dec. 7, 1978 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Leon Paul 89956764
b. Mar. 26, 1889 d. Nov. 24, 1963 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Lizzie W. 24557438
b. Jun. 1, 1914 d. Jun. 19, 1997 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Mabel Gertrude Wells 89957295
b. Oct. 11, 1906 d. Jul. 14, 1991 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Marian McKensie 27752483
b. Mar. 31, 1918 d. Jun. 20, 2008 Center Star Baptist Churc...
Dinwiddie
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Martha Emily "Emma" Williams 89956832
b. Jan. 10, 1891 d. Jan. 14, 1978 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Mary Anna Wells 89880283
b. Jul. 11, 1904 d. May 15, 1972 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Mary Collier Connelly 74377918
b. Dec. 16, 1873 d. Dec. 10, 1940 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Mary Elizabeth Maitland 63445186
b. Nov. 1, 1856 d. Jul. 18, 1915 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Mary Tucker Chambers 89865087
b. Apr. 30, 1891 d. Aug. 8, 1969 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Mattie Estelle Mallory 24556826
b. Apr. 4, 1874 d. Jun. 23, 1927 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Maurice E 93994464
b. Jun. 29, 1907 d. Aug. 22, 1971 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Minnie Hawks 24557002
b. Aug. 3, 1875 d. Oct. 18, 1944 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Search for "elder" at Fold3.com
Elder, Norma Talbot 93954844
b. Sep. 15, 1924 d. Mar. 27, 2003 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA
Elder, Page 89866293
b. Jun. 6, 1919 d. Jan. 15, 1935 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA
Elder, Randolph 24541061
b. unknown d. unknown Mansons United Methodist
McKenney
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Ronnie T 111107243
b. Dec. 8, 1950 d. May 23, 2013 Dinwiddie Memorial Park
Dinwiddie
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Sarah Ann Alice Maitland 89990918
b. Oct. 21, 1854 d. Nov. 10, 1926 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Thomas Ira 90115812
b. Oct., 1848 d. 1928 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, William D 89957652
b. Jun. 24, 1857 d. Jul. 28, 1931 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, William H 89956219
b. Aug. 29, 1924 d. Nov. 20, 1982 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, William Percy, Sr 89862145
b. Oct. 2, 1886 d. Oct. 7, 1966 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, William Percy, Jr 89866012
b. Nov. 29, 1929 d. Oct. 27, 1984 Rocky Run United Methodis...
DeWitt
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA

Elder, Willie Melvin 24556528
b. Dec. 1, 1900 d. Jun. 17, 1967 Butterwood Cemetery
Darvills
Dinwiddie County
Virginia, USA
_________________
Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:06 am    Post subject: "J2" and researcher "BRNRUBR" for ROYAL Reply with quote

RE-Reviewing Ancestry.com Trees listed for JAMES ELDER (1815-1881)
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/BrookeCoWV.htm

I just realized that the alternative Tree which I posted for this one is also wrong!
I should have noticed that the researcher is "BRNRUBR" which is the researcher named for --
"ROYAL STEWART" DNA match, kit #342842, instead of the "JOHN ELDER" which is traced there.
There are STEWART/STUART names in that Tree,
so must be some connection with them.

Started with:
KarenMcMinnRunk - McMinn Family Tree
lists:
James Elder
Birth 5 JAN 1815, Pennsylvania, USA
Death 26 JUN 1881, Pennsylvania, USA

- Mixture of "PAXTANG" and
"FRANKLIN CO PA" ELDER lines:
at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/8816060/person/-885775790?ssrc=

>Looking at the Mrs. Nancy ELDER obit you have posted from
Sandusky Co OH, where husband died 1847 in Centre Co PA, I used
Ancestry to search for more info about that John ELDER.
I found a tree which looks more correct,
and seems to match the ELDER info in my files.
See:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/20020255/person/884107169

NancyP asked: "Therefore, Please DELETE:
" JOHN ELDER AND MARY LEEPER" of "FRANKLIN CO PA" (R1b DNA)
and all ELDER ancestors above those
for your JAMES ELDER (1815-1881)."

There are 2 "James ELDER" names, both born 1815 - died 1881.

EDMUND Lists his "J2" DNA group ancestor on his Ancestry.com Tree:
JAMES ELDER, Birth 25 JUN 1815 • Maryland, USA -
Death 26 JUN 1881 • Pennsylvania, USA
Buried: Fayette City, Fayette, PA (photo of marker)

the Other one is from my "FRANKLIN CO PA" DNA group.
"R1b" JAMES ELDER, b. 5 Jan 185, died 2 AUG 1881, buried at Carthage, Hancock Co IL

NancyP wrote comments to “sextonbc” on his Ancestry.com "BRUCE SEXTON" Tree
He has listed the 26 JUNE 1881 death date for his JAMES ELDER. (Didn't fix it, either)
at
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/26325835/person/5091215339/facts

Sources for the James ELDER who is Nancy's relative of "FRANKLIN CO PA. "
Page 48 of the "David Elder and Margery Stewart" book is posted full text online in Ancestry.com.
Their descendant is a James Elder listed at the bottom of page 48
This "James" died 2 Aug 1881 at Carthage, Illinois,
See:-
-- http://search.ancestry.com/Browse/BookView.aspx?dbid=16055&pageno=48

So he shouldn't be connected to the James Elder who died 26 June 1881 = "J2" DNA.
_________________
Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com
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