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nancyp Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:38 am Post subject: |
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A "PETER ELDER OF VIRGINIA" DESCENDANT (Y-DNA kit #557353),
who lives in Brooklyn, NY has recently visited the New York Public Library
in Manhattan to view the "PETER ELDER" book by Lee ELDER. Now he reports that he will visit NYPL
to view the $600 "OXFORD DICTIONARY OF FAMILY NAMES IN BRITAIN AND IRELAND" (4 vols.)
Books are newly arrived in the catalog, so he reserved for viewing:
at
https://catalog.nypl.org/record=b21100257~S1
Hanks, Patrick.
"The Oxford dictionary of family names in Britain and Ireland"
Oxford, UK ; New York, NY : Oxford University Press, 2016.
SASB - Milstein Division Reference Rm 121
*R-USLHG CS2505 .O94 2016 v. 1
AVAILABLE
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SASB - Milstein Division Reference Rm 121
*R-USLHG CS2505 .O94 2016 v. 2
AVAILABLE
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SASB - Milstein Division Reference Rm 121
*R-USLHG CS2505 .O94 2016 v. 3
AVAILABLE
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SASB - Milstein Division Reference Rm 121
*R-USLHG CS2505 .O94 2016 v. 4
AVAILABLE
Contents
V. 1. Aaron-Cushing -- v. 2. Cushion-Joynson
-- v. 3. Joynt-Radclyffe -- v. 4. Raddie-Zwart.
Nancy's notes posted on Freepages from online excerpt found in Oxford REFERENCE database
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/OxfordReferenceElderSurname.htm _________________ Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
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nancyp Site Admin
Joined: 26 Jan 2004 Posts: 774 Location: Vancouver, WA USA
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:07 am Post subject: Robert Elder of Brooklyn, NY visits NYPL |
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From Robert ELDER of Brooklyn, NY - visit to New York Public Library
- He found a few bits different in the Oxford print bookthan the excerpt from Oxford Reference database.
Robert wrote: (Thursday 3/9/2017)
"Earlier today I did find
"The Oxford dictionary of family names in Britain and Ireland" at the Milstein Division of the New York Public Library.
Made a photocopy of the relevant page (only one page: Vol 2, page 824). [Sending photo]
The entry for Elder reads as follows:
Elder
Variants: Elders
Current frequencies: GB 3813, Ireland 497
GB frequency 1881: 3151
Main GB location 1881: widespread in Scotland (esp. Fife); also N England
Main Irish location 1847-64: N Ulster
English, Scottish: nickname denoting the older of two
bearers of the same personal name.
It may have been used also to denote an elder of a church,
a senior and respected member of the congregation.
Early bearers: England: Hugo le Heldere, 1212 in Curia Regis Rolls (Herts);
Ricardus the Elder, 1379 in Poll Tax (Shadwell, WR Yorks);
John Elder, 1546 in IGI (Watford, Herts);
Edward Elder, 1549 in IGI (Nonington, Kent);
Thamsin Elder, 1556 in IGI (Saint Gerrans, Cornwall);
Thomas Elder, 1557 in IGI (East Hendred, Berks).
Scotland: John Eldar of Corstorphine, burgess,
1423 in Holyrood Register (Edinburgh);
John Elder, 16th cent. in Collectanea de Rebus Albanicis;
John Elder, 1561 in IGI (Dunfermline, Fife);
Andro Elder, 1574 in Wodrow Miscellany (Menmuir, Angus);
Jhone Elder, 1575 in IGI (perth, Perths).
Elders
Current frequencies: GB 201, Ireland 55
GB frequency 1881: 235
Main GB location 1881: NR Yorks
Main Irish location 1847-64: Offaly
English variant of Elder with post-medieval excrescent -s.
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Nancy's notes from Oxford Reference Database:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/OxfordReferenceElderSurname.htm
More about Fife
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/Fife.htm
Including:
ALEXANDER LANG ELDER:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/AlexanderLangElderAustralia.htm _________________ Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
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