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New "PAXTANG PA" DNA relative found in Orange Co N

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:07 am    Post subject: New "PAXTANG PA" DNA relative found in Orange Co N Reply with quote

Kit #296893 has matched the "PAXTANG PA" ELDER DNA group.
Now we need to find his branch origins, from Scotland through Ireland?
Could be families who match from Inch Island, Co Donegal, or from Ballymoney, County Antrim.

His earliest known ancestor is Rev War Soldier, Joseph ELDER d. 1829 in Orange Co NY.
"Pvt Joseph Elder 2nd Regiment Ulster Co Militia - Story of his Rev. War travels

His Ancestry Tree
Today I'm using GOOGLE to search for: "Elder family" in HANOVER, Pennsylvania"
Found a mention by "ANN"
for "ROBERT ELDER (b. 1704) m. TAYLOR -- in Donna Logan's "sharing discussion" archives

SUBJ: ELDER, Robert-- "The following was sent to me by my sister in PA some years
ago. Chester County Historical Society. A lady had written Mr. John V.
Hollingsworth, College of American Genealogist; dated Sept. 7, 1978. "Dear
Sir: Your name was given to me by Willard Heiss as one I might find about
my TAYLOR ancestry. Mary TAYLOR married Robert ELDER 1762 his second wife.
He was a resident of Hanover Township, Lancaster Co., PA.
and after his
first wives death left and I do not know if he was married while away
or on
his return to Lancaster Co., PA. I was always told she was a Quaker.
This is not much to go on. After their marriage they moved to the West
establishing "ELDERS RIDGE, PA. Mary TAYLOR died 1813 at Elders Ridge and is buried in Ebenezer Cemetery at Lewisville, PA. etc." Ann
Using GOOGLE to look for any early history of HANOVER, Lancaster/Dauphin Co PA
"Historical sketch of old Hanover Church"
Harrisburg, Pa., Dauphin County Historical Society, 1878. 59 p. illus.

ELDER has 10 entries, looks mostly for "Rev. JOHN ELDER" -- who preached there.
I'll read entries more carefully.
Probably should read the whole book!
Historical sketch of Old Hanover Church, Dauphin County, Pa. Family History Library

Old Hanover Church, East Hanover Twp., Part 1 of 2 US Gen Web Archives
Old Hanover Church, East Hanover Twp., Part 2 of 2 US Gen Web Archives

More in WIKI:,_Dauphin_County,_Pennsylvania
"Hanover Township of Dauphin County was divided into East Hanover, West Hanover, and South Hanover townships.
When Lebanon County was formed in 1813, East Hanover Township was partitioned to form East Hanover Township, Lebanon County."
RE: "Historical sketch of old Hanover Church"

Now I'm reading the whole book "Historical Sketch of Old Hanover Church"
using the .pdf file downloaded from
Using Search file, Houston or Huston, I found one entry below on Page 15.

Note for Page 14.
"The members of Old Hanover Congregation as early as 1750,
less than twenty years after its founding,
may be gathered from the list of taxables in Rupp's History of Dauphin County, p. 206."

Note for Page 15 - "At this period, from 1756 * to 1764, the
entire region was greatly harrassed by Indian wars."
Includes list of names titled
*Hanover Ass'ts for the King's Use, 1759.
No ELDER surname listed,
but did find
HUSTON, ROBERT - 2 shillings 6 d.

Rev. John ELDER is mentioned:
Page 17. "In the year 1760 Rev. Messrs. Elder, Duffield, Roan and and Williams
occasionally preached for them."...
"During the year 1761 Hanover was supplied mainly by
Rev. Messrs. Roan, Tate, Elder, Beard and M'Mordie.
"In 1762, in November, a call was made for the Rev. Robert M. Mordie,
which he accepted. The congregation promised him eighty pounds for
his temporal support, to be secured by bonds.
Rev. Messrs. John Elder and Joseph Tate were appointed to
install him on the fourth Sunday of November, 1762, Mr. Elder to preside."

Page 39 - 42. Hanover Church Burial Record

Another note from preface:
"Visiting the place a few months ago, the writer found only scattered remnants of the ancient stone structure, and close by the walled grave-yard where the "Fathers of ye olden time" are sleeping.
A fund for the repairing of the grave-yard, obtained by the sale of the church building and from other sources, is in the hands of a body of trustees.....
"Two or three of the old families are still represented in the homes of the region, but the well-filled grave-yard, where many an unmarked mound, many a well-worn, moss-covered stone, with the better-preserved memorial of later times, may be seen, shows how large a Presbyterian ancestry once occupied this region."

Looking for more possible ELDER connections in "PAXTANG PA"
>Rupp's book in ARCHIVE.ORG
"The history and topography of Dauphin, Cumberland, Franklin, Bedford,
Adams, and Perry counties
: containing a brief history of the first settlers, notices of the leading events,
incidents and interesting facts,
both general and local, in the history of these counties, general &
statistical descriptions of all the principal boroughs, towns, villages, &c.,
with an appendix"
by I Daniel Rupp
Publisher: Lancaster City, Pa. : G. Hills, 1846.

Also Full text -- including page 206:
Google Books: by Israel Daniel RUPP's%20history%20of%20dauphin%20county%22&pg=PA26#v=onepage&q=Elder&f=false

Searching ELDER found 25 entries:
Page 343, 164, 289, 233, 270, 302, 85, 236, 162, 163, 236, 241, ix
361, 340, 239, 288, 595, 230, 228, 226, 295, 262...

Most of these mention Rev. John ELDER:
Others, list Thomas, Joshua and Samuel
For example:
Page 359: Begins the list of names titled: 1750 Taxables...
Page 361 has ELDER
Starts with: MIDDLETON, 1751 -- lists John ELDER, Thomas ELDER

Page ix: Index: Elder John Rev. his letters 95, 164, 302

Page 85: ...."The above declartion was attested by the author's voluntary qualification,
no magistrate being present; at Paxton, this 26th October, 1755, before us:
John Elder, Thomas McArthur,....
"N.B. of all our people that were in the action there are but nine that are yet returned."

Page 162: Conestoga affair: Rev. John Elder expostulates with them in vain-- He sends an express with a written message...
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Vancouver, WA USA
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:42 pm    Post subject: ELDER's RIDGE, INDIANA COUNTY, PA - ROBERT ELDER, b. 1704 Reply with quote

"175th Anniversary History," by Clarence D. Stephenson
"Biographical Sketches of Noted Citizens, Past and Present."
Publ. by A.G. Halldin, Indiana, PA, 1983.
Page 609: 
ELDER, ROBERT, d. c. 1790-91. Pioneer settler at Elders Ridge, 1786. 
  Mr. E. was m. first in Dauphin Co., name of his wife unknown.

By her he had a son who remained there. 
His second wife was Mary Taylor.

Their children were: 
James m. Martha Robinson 1792, d. 4-23-1813; 
David b. 1754, m. Ann Nesbit 1790, moved to Ohio 1816;

Robert b. 1767, m. Mary Smith, d. 1813; 
and Ann m. Archibald Marshall. 
All of the children had reached maturity when Robert & Mary and the above 
children settled on a tract where Elders Ridge is now located in 1786.  There 
a hewed log house was erected, which also served as a blockhouse, on land 
later owned by S.J. Craighead and more recently the Rosensteel Family. 
James Elder was a firm temperance advocate (I:307) 
   Mr. E. was said to have been a grandson of Robert & Eleanor Elder 
who migrated from Drummore, Co. Down, Ulster c. 1730 and settled 
about 5 mi. N. of Harrisburg at Paxtang.  Our subject was a second 
cousin of Joshua Elder who surveyed many of the original land patents 
in IC (see I:131).  Some of the surveys are mentioned in 
I: 28, 46, 60 and 84M.  A s/o Rev. John Elder of Paxtang, Joshua 
served as the first prothonotary of Dauphin Co. 1785.  He m. (1) 
Mary McAlister who d. 1782 age 29 and (2) Sarah McAlister who 
d. 1807 age 45.  Joshua d. 1820, age 76.

More about ELDER's RIDGE family:
Birth: unknown
County Down, Northern Ireland
Death: unknown

died in 1790/1791

first wife: Eleanor; one son
second wife: Mary Taylor

son James married Martha Robinson d 1813
son David, b 1764, moved to OH

son Robert, b 1767, married Mary Smith

only daughter Ann married Archibald Marshall

info from the Indiana Evening Gazette, Indiana, Pennsylvania - 24 Apr 1953
Family links: 
  Mary Taylor Elder (____ - 1813)
Ebenezer Cemetery
Lewisville (Indiana County)
Indiana County
Pennsylvania, USA
Created by: Kim Kerr
Record added: Apr 04, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 50654352
Ridgeview Cemetery (Elder's Ridge) in Find-a-grave: (30 entries for ELDER)
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