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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:22 pm    Post subject: Nancy's order for AncestryDNA-Plus BETA test by invitation Reply with quote

AncestryDNA subscribers have said on the DNA Forums,
that this AncestryDNA+ comparison report uses Ancestry FamilyTREE entries
from subscribers, to point out cousins.

Considering the many mixups in ELDER entries on those ANCESTRY TREES,
I'm very curious to see what happens when they try to point me to a TREE.
I've already been typing alot of opposing "comments" with references
on the entries for "PAXTANG PA" mixups with "FRANKLIN CO PA" TREES,
but there are more all the time, simply copied over.
For example: Rev. John ELDER of PAXTANG PA, is entered as father of
our Rev. War Soldier, Robert ELDER (1730-1807) of FRANKLIN CO PA.
However, Rev. John ELDER is really the documented father of another Rev. War Soldier,
Robert ELDER (1742-1818), who had no children:
My comments posted
at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/5778494/person/-1362300372?pg=32787&pgpl=pid

I just hope I can help our ELDER research with this test, not make it worse!
Will let you know what happens!
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Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my first recognized matching ELDER in the new AncestryDNA test!!
I sent Fran a confirmation message in Ancestry e-mail:
>Hi Fran (bluesilver73)
> Hooray! Viewing your excerpt from "PRIVATE" Ancestry Tree,
I recognized some Y-DNA matches to my brother,
Henry Irwin ELDER from your William Beverly ELDER, as posted:

William Beverly Elder
B:31 Jul 1889 in Missouri
D:27 Nov 1948 in Los Angeles

>Another Ancestry Tree traces your William Beverly ELDER further
back through TN, and even credits a TN ancestor as coming from Franklin Co PA, which I haven't really been able to prove for myself, although it certainly makes sense.

>Also, the book "Families named ELDER in East Tennessee" doesn't trace that ELDER family back to PA for certain, but our Sevier Co TN relatives prove the Y-DNA match.

>From Ancestry Tree by "jjhamiltonjr," Topeka, Kansas
at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/9667118/person/6055040361

>Traces William Beverly ELDER b. 1889 MO
to
William Elder
Birth 1783 in Franklin, Pennsylvania, United States
Death 18 Jul 1823 in Dandridge, Jefferson, Tennessee, United States
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Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I confirmed another new COUSIN in my new AncestryDNA.com test,
matching with the book "FAMILIES NAMED ELDER IN EAST TN".

NancyP replied to this ANCESTRY TREE owner:
"Reviewing the matching FULL ANCESTRY.COM TREE"
at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/15560190/person/1405353784
for LILLIARD surname: (ALSO SPELLED LILLARD):
Lee Albert "Burt" LILLIARD
Birth About 1850 in Meigs County Tennessee
Death About 1883 in Hanson, Sequoyah, Oklahoma
father:
James S Vernon LILLIARD
Birth 1829
Death 1908

In my book "Families Named ELDER in East Tennesse" by Virginia Knight Nelson, pub. 1986.
Index pages for LILLARD: ix, 11, 14, 16, 30, 31, 32, 33, 100, 101

Page 11: Nancy Elder (1809-1888) m. William LILLARD (1793-1875)

Page 32:
"Benjamin Francis LILLARD (b. abt 1838 d. 1919)
was a farmer and dry-goods merchant in Meigs County...."

Nancy's brother, Henry Irwin ELDER, Y-DNA kit #10042 matches ELDER
descendants from that book with Y-DNA kits.

Full Text of the book "FAMILIES NAMED ELDER IN EAST TN"
scanned and posted on Google Documents
with permission of the author
(use surnames index at end of book for LILLARD)
also lists VERNON surname.
at
http://tinyurl.com/2ekrbmb

Reference:
"Lillard: A Family of Colonial Virginia, Second Edition"
Rev. ed. of: Lillard, a family of colonial Virginia, 1415 to 1928 / by Jacques Ephraim Stout Lillard. 1928
at
http://archive.org/details/lillardfamilyofc02lill
and
Ancestry Tree with French Connection
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/25014794/person/1592014725
Traced to: Jean Lillard, Birth 1668 in Maine-Et Loire, Nanties, France

More about VERNON surname - see letter written to TN ARCHIVES
mentioning "Senator Miles VERNON of MEIGS CO TN" by Miles Macon ELDER
posted on my Freepages
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/Susan/MilesLetterToMoore.jpg
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Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recognized the first "MIXED UP" TREE list with ELDER of "FRANKLIN CO PA" and "PAXTANG PA" from my AncestryDNA.com test results.

Wrote to my new cousin: "ANDREAK22"
RE: Our matches: DAVID ELDER and JANE BOGGS
of Franklin Co PA and Huntingdon Co PA
[She cites Kate McCARTER's webpages for Idaho ELDER descendants]
Kate has deleted the "PAXTANG" entries.]
See Kates Tree:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/27093880/person/1989430177

>In our ELDER DNA project we have discovered that the ELDER family of "PAXTANG PA" has very different DNA (I=ISLES, VIKING), than our "FRANKLIN CO PA" DNA (R1b).--- So they are not directly related by paternal ancestory.

>My 3rd g-grandfather, Joseph ELDER (1770-1858) was born in FRANKLIN CO PA.
> His father is Robert ELDER (1730-1807) who resided in FRANKLIN CO PA before the Rev. War.--- My DAR Membership #833222, separates him from the "PAXTANG PA" liine.
[I also posted a correction on "COMMENTS" section of ANDREAK22 TREE
to tell her about the different PAXTANG DNA, and that Joseph was born
in Franklin Co PA, the part which was formed from Cumberland Co Sept. 9, 1784]

TREE INFO: "WEAVER Family by ANDREAK22"
Profile: Female 50-59 - Graduate Degree, Employed
SEARCH TREE, find ELDER names (100)
at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/17316293/listofallpeople?ss=false&ln=elder

She has also posted my photos of DAVID ELDER BIBLE pages on her TREE,
but has not posted a father for David.
[David's father should be my Rev. War Soldier,
Robert Elder (1730-1807) of Franklin Co PA]
at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/17316293/person/20137466020

David's Bible pages first scanned and posted on my Freepages:
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/BibleDavidElder1752.htm

Bible was found in Salem, Oregon, photos taken, and then Bible
sent to Franklin County Historical Society, Chambersburg, PA.
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Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:10 pm    Post subject: French names on AncestryDNA Reply with quote

Receiving French matches with
Nancy's G-Grandparents:

Jean Drouillard, France
+ Jeanne Chevreau, married August 30, 1666 at Marennes, diocese of Saintes, Saintonge, France
son:
Simon Drouillard dit Argentcour, B: Nov 10 1668, France, M: Quebec, November 25, 1698
+ Margaret Ferret
son:
Jean Baptiste Drouillard, B: February 14, 1706/07, St Francois Isle Orleans,
M: February 05,1730/31, D: 1756
+ Elisabeth Rapin, B: June 06, 1712, Batiscan Que., D: May 06 1787
son:
Jean Baptiste Drouillard, B: November 09, 1731, Quebec,
(BROTHER of Pierrre, b. 1746, who is father of GEORGE-- traveled
Lewis and Clark Expedition)
M: February 25, 1754, D: January 02, 1788, River Raisin, Michigan
+ Mary Charlotte Bigras dit Fauvel, B: September 05, 1739
son:
Nicolas Drouillard, B: December 21, 1759, South Coast of Detroit
(Sandwich), M: February 06, 1794
+ Mary Louisa Montmeny, B: February 05, 1778, Assumption Sandwich
son:
Jean Baptiste Drouillard, B: January 24, 1799, St Antoine, River Raisin,
M: November 04, 1823
+ Catherine Arcouet, B: November 17, 1800, Assumption Sandwich
daughter:
Edesse Drouillard, B. October 2, 1827, St. Antoine
M: Moses Trombley (Tremblay), B. 1822, St. Jean near Montreal
(both buried at Village Cemetery, Petersburg, Monroe Co., MI
**
A Chronology of the Colonial History of the North America
Edward J. Dodson
Part 3:
http://www.cooperativeindividualism.org/dodson_eckerthistory3.html

1779 (June)
"With help from Captain [Pierre] Drouilliard, Simon Kenton makes his escape
from Detroit, arriving at Vincennnes on July 5. At Vincennes, he meets
with George Rogers Clark and briefs him on conditions at Detroit. The
following morning he is on his way back to Can-tuc-kee. "
****
August 1779: Pierre Drouillard is arrested at the fort in Detroit for helping Simon escape.
October 1779: Pierre escapes from Detroit, and arrives at Simon Kenton's Station in KY.
He lives there for 14 years, with 3rd wife Susan Miller, has 3 children, including son JOSEPH, b. 1795.
Pierre's 1st wife: 1773 George's mother: Indian Asoundacres".
2nd wife: m. 1776 Mary Angelica DESCOMPS dit Labadie
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Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:08 pm    Post subject: KINNE/KINNEY matches on AncestryDNA Reply with quote

KINNE/KINNEY relatives from England to early Salem, MA.
Posted more notes on my Freepages
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/witch.htm

DESCENDANCY CHART FOR FRANCIS COOKE
Connection to Nancy's Grandmother: Emily KINNEY ELDER
Sent 8 Mar 2000 by May Davies Tallman, of Bountiful, Utah

1 - Francis COOKE [(Sir,Mayflower)](1583-1663)Gides Hall,Essex,England
sp - Hester MAHIEU(1585-1666) Leyden,South Holland,Holland
2 - Mary COOKE(1626-1714) Plymouth,Plymouth,Ma
sp - John TOMSON (THOMSON)(1616-1696) Wales,Hampden,Mass.
3- Mary THOMPSON(1650- 1723) Of Dartmouth,Bristol,Ma
sp - Thomas B. TABER(1644 -1730) Yarmouth,Barnstable,Ma
4 - Joseph TABER(1679 -1752) Dartmouth,Bristol,Ma
sp - Elizabeth M. SPOONER(1683-1743) Dartmouth,Bristol,Ma
5 - Benjamin TABER (1706 -1782) Dartmouth,Bristol,Ma
sp -Susannah LEWIS (1708- 1774) Of Dartmouth,Bristol,Ma
6 - Thomas TABER (1747-1820) Dartmouth,Bristol,Ma
sp- Hannah DAVIS (1754-1832) Dartmouth,Bristol,Ma
7 - Hannah TABER (1794 -1881) Dartmouth,Brstl,Ma
sp-Zebina MOULTON (1788-1837) E. Randolph,Orng,Vt
8 - Louisa MOULTON (1813- ) ,Vt
sp - Sandford KINNEY II (1806-1867)
9 - Sandford M. KINNEY III(1836-1897)Cabot,,Vt.
sp -Mary Ellen FOLEY (1848-1914),Maine
10 - Emily Kathryn KINNEY (1881-1959),MN
sp - Martin Pascal ELDER (1877-1960)MI-OR
***
Also in the family tree:
Joseph Kinne II married Jemima Newcomb
her mother: Jerusha Bradford,
her father: Thomas Bradford, then William Jr, then William Sr. (Gov.)
Bradford and Kinney:
http://bobandelsa.com/ss28aug06-p/p61.htm

KINNE/KINNEY
in
WorldConnect by Donald Graham
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=grahamgroup&id=I40424
ID: I40424
Name: Henry KINNE
Sex: M
Birth: 08 JUL 1623 in Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England
Death: 19 JUN 1696 in Newbury, Essex, MA


Father: John KINNE b: ABT 1600 in England

Mother: Sarah CHEEVER b: 1605 in England


Marriage 1 Ann PUTNAM b: 04 FEB 1629 in Greenwich, Kent, England
Married: 12 OCT 1649
Children
1. John KINNE b: 11 JAN 1651 in Salem, Essex, MA
2. Thomas KINNE b: 11 MAR 1655 in Salem, Essex, MA
3. Hannah KINNE b: 02 JAN 1657 in Salem, Essex, MA
4. Mary KINNE b: 03 MAY 1659
5. Sarah KINNE b: 20 AUG 1661 in Salem, Essex, MA
6. Elizabeth KINNE b: 16 DEC 1662 in Salem, Essex, MA
7. Lydia KINNE b: APR 1666
8. Henry KINNE b: 01 MAY 1669 in Salem, Essex, MA

His AncestryTree:
at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/43883487/person/12719180092
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Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:32 pm    Post subject: GG-Grandfather JOHN ELDER - married MARY MOREHOUSE Reply with quote

GG-GRANDFATHER JOHN ELDER m. MARY MOREHOUSE, her f: Silvanus
Similar names in CT:
http://www.americanrevolution.org/morehouse.html
22. Morehouse, Abraham, s. of Daniel. Ens., 1st Co.. Fairfield, May 1743; Lt., May 1745; Capt., May 1748.
Bapt. 22 Dec. 1700; d. at Fairfield, 3 May 1761 in 61 yr. (g. s.); m. 12 Apr. 1722, Elizabeth Patterson, b. at Stratford, 28 Jan. 1700/1; d. at Fairfield in 1785.
... "Samuel, Silvanus, Daniel, and Seth Morehouse, sons of Capt. Abraham late of Fairfield, and joint heirs of Andrew Morehouse after decease of the latter's late widow Anna, conveyed 27 Apr. 1767 to Sarah wife of Zachariah Jennings, Hannah wife of Edmund Rowland, and Rebecca wife of Matthew Jennings."
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Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:55 pm    Post subject: Dempsey Moore and Polly ELDER in AncestryDNA test match Reply with quote

Sent to: "Puddin48" matching on AncestryDNA test results
Possible range: 5th - 8th cousins
Confidence: Low (Setting RANGE BAR on Far Right for most distant)

RE: Your DEMPSEY MOORE and POLLY ELDER in Randolph Co NC
in "LINDALGATES08" TREE:
at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/47557304/person/6795744638

I'm happy to find more cousins in the AncestryDNA test results!
Today I am viewing matches which are reported
as "Low Confidence" entries - extending the RANGE BAR completely to the right.
I have traced my ELDER family back to Rev. War Soldier, Robert ELDER, b. 1730 Perth Scotland - d. 1807 Franklin Co PA. My DAR membership approved #833222.

My MOORE and ELDER families also in
Full Text of the book "FAMILIES NAMED ELDER IN EAST TN"
scanned and posted on Google Documents
with permission of the author
at
http://tinyurl.com/2ekrbmb

and in my known DNA ELDER cousin's Ancestry Tree,
by William Harrison ELDER:
at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/30879714/person/12321509835
Dempsey Moore Jr.
Birth 04 Feb 1789 in Granville Co., NC
Death 01 May 1856 in Selmer, McNairy Co., TN
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Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:12 pm    Post subject: AncestryDNA test matches with ELDER of KS - to Bedford Co PA Reply with quote

AncestryDNA test match:
To: F. W. P. (administered by flotackett2)
Possible range: 5th - 8th cousins
Confidence: Very Low (Setting RANGE BAR To Far Right For Distant Cousins)
Your ELDER listed:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/14385212/family
Elder, June Irene
7 Jul 1918 - Boicourt, Linn, Kansas
8 Mar 2006 - Kelso, Cowlitz, Washington
**
From another Tree:
Her father:
Bert Clemment ELDER
Birth 1 JAN 1874 in Cass Co MO
Death 13 NOV 1943 in Bates Co MO
***
Father:
Jeremiah H 'Jerry' ELDER
Birth 28 SEP 1845 in Richland Co OH
Death 26 JUL 1919 in Cass Co MO
Father:
George ELDER m. SHAFFER
*****
From my ELDER DNA cousins
MY ELDER Notes for GEORGE ELDER and relatives posted
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/MartinMorrowCoOH.htm
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Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:59 pm    Post subject: McPherson match on AncestryDNA Test Reply with quote

McPHERSON match in my AncestryDNA test results today with Ancestry TREE:
to: pembrokepet
Possible range: 4th - 6th cousins
Confidence: 96%

Find McPHERSON in pembrokepet TREE:
at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/14898756/listofallpeople?ss=false&ln=mcpherson

McPherson, Daniel
1700 - Inverness shire, Moray, Scotland
1 Apr 1740 - La Plata, Charles, Maryland

and others
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Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com
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