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Edmund ELDER's Ancestry Family Tree - Dorsey/Elder of MD

 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:55 pm    Post subject: Edmund ELDER's Ancestry Family Tree - Dorsey/Elder of MD Reply with quote

Edmund ELDER has traced his last 3 ELDER generations back to Franklin Co PA,
but I believe they should be traced to DORSEY/ELDER of Maryland.
Edmund's Ancestry Family Tree
posted at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/19315573/person/784287880

I finally found Edmund's ELDER families of "Brooke Co W(VA)" with
the late Donna Logan's DORSEY/ELDER family of Maryland.
Donna sponsored an ELDER relative for a DNA kit.
She also wrote about her Maryland families in the ELDER newsletter.
This DNA is very different from all other ELDER lines.
See label of "J2" by itself in the ELDER Y-DNA chart
at
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder

DORSEY Book reference lists ELDER names in Brooke Co W(VA) .
From Heritage Quest online .pdf files:
"The Dorsey family : descendants of Edward Darcy-Dorsey of Virginia
and Maryland for five generations and allied families," pub. 1947, 280 pgs.
by Maxwell Jay Dorsey; Jean Muir Dorsey; Nannie Boyd Ball Nimmo
Includes the Wyatt, Todd, Elder, Howard, Rockhould, and Norwood families.
Includes index. vi, 270 p. : ill. ; 29 cm.
Index page 259 with ELDER names:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/DorseyElderIndex.pdf
Page 57 - Elizabeth ELDER d. 1814 Brooke Co WVA:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/BrookeCoWVA-ELDER.pdf
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Page 90
Terisha ELDER (Ann Dorsey Elder, Michael, John, Col. Edward, Edward)
b. Jan 12, 1767; d. Apr. 9, 1843 Washington Co PA
m. Nov. 8, 1788 Dennis Dorsey, b. 1769; d. Sept. 12, 1815 in Western PA
"In 1807 Dennis moved from Maryland to Wellsburg, Virginia,
then known as Charleston, with his wife and six children.
In 1809 he moved across the state and located on a portion of the
widow Walls farm, near the Forks, now the village of Independence.
He remained there until 1813 and then moved to Fowlerstown.
(Boyd Crumrine's History of Washington County, PA.
Independence Township, f. 827)
***
Page 91
"A letter written by Dennis Basil Dorsey dated September 1834 to his
mother, Mrs. Terisha [Elder] Dorsey, New Independence, Washington County,
Pennsylvania, is now in the possession of her great grandson,
Lawrence Foster King, Pittsburg, Pennsylvania.
Children of Dennis and Terisha (Elder) Dorsey:
(Births from family records)
..."1. Samuel Dorsey [b. 1789] came to Brooke County, Virginia, with his parents in 1808 and after his marriage lived in what was then called "Flats of Grave Creek", Ohio County, Virginia, now Moundsville, West Virginia. About 1851 he moved to Rutland, Illinois, now in Marshall County, where he bought a tract of land."
... " 6. Dennis Basil Dorsey [b 1799]
(more on page 93)..
... "In 1832 he settled in Wheeling, West Virginia
and started to practice medicine..."
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Dorsey book also found in Ancestry.com full text:
at
http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=11853
***
Using Google to search "Joseph Gist" and "Elizabeth Elder"
found Pedigree for Major Joseph Gist and Elizabeth Elder
at
http://www.poeland.com/genealogy/Williams/Honor_Elder.html#d9772

Major Joseph Gist (reference notes: 331, 347)

Born: 30 SEP 1738; St. Thomas Parish, Baltimore, MD Colony335
Died: 22 JAN 1830; Wellsburg, Brooke Co., VA336
Christened: St. Thomas Parish, Baltimore, MD Colony336
Father: William Gist
Mother: Violetta Howard
Married Elizabeth Elder (30 AUG 1759; St. Thomas Parish, Baltimore, MD Colony335)
Children: John Elder, Cecil, Joseph, Jemima, Joshua Howard, Owen, Cornelius Howard, William, Violetta, Elizabeth, James
Notes: NOTE: COLONIAL FAMILIES OF THE UNITED STATES by George Norbury MacKenzie on page 236--He was commissioned 25 MAY 1776, Quartermaster of Soldiers' Delight Battalion, Militia of Baltimore County (Maryland Archives, xi, 443); First Lieutenant, 6th June 1776 (ibid., 467); and Major, 10 SEPT, 1779 (ibid. xvi, 368); m. 30th August 1759, Elizabeth, dau. of John (d. 1762) and Jemima Elder, and his issue as recorded in St. Thomas Register. 335

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ELDER DNA kit #12883 (J2)
1. JOHN ELDER (d. 1740 - Anne Arundel Co. MD)
2. JOHN (1695-1762 - Anne Arundel Co/Baltimore Co. MD)
3. OWEN (d. 1774 - Anne Arundel Co/Baltimore Co. MD)
4. JOHN OWEN (1771-1857 - Anne Arundel Co/Carroll Co.MD)
5. MICHAEL (1800-1868 - Carroll Co. MD/Marshall Co WV)
Green Spring Valley, MD (pt. 1-2) article:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/news/ElderNews1113.jpg
and
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/news/ElderNews1116.jpg

Another webpage for John ELDER, b. 1772 Maryland
http://www.genealogy.com/users/r/o/e/Letitia-L-Roe/FILE/0001page.html
Children of John Elder and Sarah are:
30 i. John4 Elder, born June 05, 1772 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md.. ((#30 is not traced - skips numbers)
31 ii. Jemima Elder, born March 01, 1774 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md..
32 iii. Honor 'Onour' Elder, born February 21, 1776 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md..
33 iv. Owen Elder, born May 09, 1778 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore Cty, Baltimore,Md..
34 v. Elizabeth Elder, born 1781 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md..
35 vi. Mary Elder, born Abt. 1784 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md.; died November 19, 1857 in Baltimore,Maryland.

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Revolutionary War Veteran To Be Honored
http://www.news-register.net/page/content.detail/id/540968.html?nav=515
The Intelligencer, Wheeling News-Register
By IAN HICKS Staff Writer
POSTED: August 21, 2010
"Revolutionary War Veteran To Be Honored"
Article Photos
"This headstone at Franklin Cemetery in Wellsburg was erected in honor
of Maj. Joseph Gist, a Brooke County man who fought in the
Revolutionary War. [Photo Provided includes name of wife Elizabeth ELDER]
WELLSBURG - It may be one of the newer headstones at Franklin Cemetery, but the marker bearing the name of Maj. Joseph Gist serves as a lasting reminder of a man who fought not to preserve America's freedom, but to obtain it.
"The monument to Maj. Gist will be dedicated in a 1 p.m. ceremony Saturday at the cemetery, with family members and others expected to be in attendance. Gist, who was born in Baltimore and served in a Maryland militia unit during the American Revolution, settled near what would become Wellsburg following the war. He died Jan. 22, 1803"....more
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1850
Name: James Elder
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1814
Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
Home in 1850 (City,County,State): District 3, Brooke, Virginia
Family Number: 49
Household Members:
Name Age
John Miller 54
James Elder 36
Mary Elder 25
John Elder 6
Perry Elder 3
Sarah Jane Elder 1
Source Citation: Year: 1850;
Census Place: District 3, Brooke, Virginia;
Roll M432_937; Page: 227A; Image: 111.
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1860
Name: James Elder
Age in 1860: 55
Birth Year: abt 1805
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1860: District 3, Brooke, Virginia
Gender: Male
Post Office: Wellsburg
Household Members:
Name Age
James Elder 55
Mary Elder 40
John Elder 18
Perry Elder 15
Albert Elder 12
Sarah J Elder 10
Eli Elder 3
Elzy Elder 3
Source Citation: Year: 1860;
Census Place: District 3, Brooke, Virginia;
Roll M653_1337; Page: 574; Image: 114;
Family History Library Film: 805337.

Name: James Elder
Birth Year: abt 1815
Age in 1870: 55
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1870: Washington, Fayette, Pennsylvania
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Fayette City
Household Members:
Name Age
James Elder 55 Coal Miner
Mary Elder 47
Perry Elder 23
Sarah Elder 20
Eli Elder 18
Elmer Elder 11
Cornelia Elder 9
Source Citation: Year: 1870;
Census Place: Washington, Fayette, Pennsylvania;
Roll M593_1343; Page: 514A; Image: 458;
Family History Library Film: 552842.

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1880 in Fayette PA
Name: James Elder
Home in 1880: Washington, Fayette, Pennsylvania
Age: 63
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Birthplace: Maryland
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's name: Mary
Father's birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's birthplace: Pennsylvania
Occupation: Coal Miner
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Household Members:
Name Age
James Elder 63
Mary Elder 56
Elmer Elder 22 VA MD PA
John Steward 25
Source Citation: Year: 1880;
Census Place: Washington, Fayette, Pennsylvania;
Roll 1130; Family History Film: 1255130; Page: 565C; Enumeration District: 60; Image: 0661.
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Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:00 pm    Post subject: Dorsey/Elder query on Elder Genforum by Lynn ROE Reply with quote

Discovered a similar Dorsey/Elder query in ELDER Genforum -
I posted a reply query about James Elder of Brooke Co WVA
at
http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?roe::elder::1147.html

RE: John Elder, 1680's, Md.
Posted by: Lynne Roe
Date: February 23, 2001 at 19:21:30
looking for siblings and parents--Direct Descendants of John Elder

1 John Elder 1683 - 1740
.. +Elizabeth
....... 2 John Elder, Jr. 1708 - 1762
........... +Jemima Dorsey 1717 - 1770
................ 3 Owen Elder 1746 - 1774
.................... +Ann Nancy Dorsey 1748 - 1806
.......................... 4 John Owen Elder 1771 - 1857
.............................. +Ann Dorsey
................................... 5 Michael Elder 1800 - 1868
....................................... +Harriet A. Doman 1823 - 1891
............................................ 6 William L. Elder 1859 - 1941
................................................. +Martha Sue Gilmore 1859 - 1929
...................................................... 7 Minnie Elder 1892 - 1959


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Re: John Elder, 1680's, Md.
Posted by: Nancy Petersen (ID *****3235)
Date: August 24, 2010 at 08:13:22
In Reply to: John Elder, 1680's, Md. by Lynne Roe
"I found another researcher of DORSEY/ELDER family with
webpage involving the name ROE.
Do you have information on John ELDER, b. 1772 Maryland,
numbered 30 (but children not listed on the webpage)?
I'm looking for the connection to James ELDER, living
in Brooke Co WV in 1850.

John ELDER, b. 1772 Maryland
http://www.genealogy.com/users/r/o/e/Letitia-L-Roe/FILE/0001page.html

Children of John Elder and Sarah are:
30 i. John4 Elder, born June 05, 1772 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md.. ((#30 is not traced - skips numbers)
31 ii. Jemima Elder, born March 01, 1774 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md..
32 iii. Honor 'Onour' Elder, born February 21, 1776 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md..
33 iv. Owen Elder, born May 09, 1778 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore Cty, Baltimore,Md..
34 v. Elizabeth Elder, born 1781 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md..
35 vi. Mary Elder, born Abt. 1784 in St. Thom. Parish,Baltimore,Md.; died November 19, 1857 in Baltimore,Maryland.

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WorldConnect by Helen
e-mail Granolamama at gmail.com
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=granolamama&id=I13123
# ID: I13123
# Name: John ELDER
# Given Name: John
# Surname: Elder
# Suffix: Jr.
# Sex: M
# Birth: 5 Jun 1772 in , Baltimore, Maryland
# Change Date: 9 Apr 2010 at 04:02

Father: John ELDER b: Abt 1737 in , , Maryland
Mother: Sarah

Sources:
1. Media: microfilm
Abbrev: St. Thomas's Parish Records
Title: Vital records of St. Thomas' Parish, Garrison Forest, Baltimore Co., Md.
Author: L. H. Harrison
Publication: LDS FHC Film # 14450: Item 1--typed index; Item 2--handwritten copy of original records,
copied in 1897 by L. H. Harrison.
Page: pg. 46 (p. 31 of original)
Quality: 3
Text: "John Elder Jur. son of John Elder and Sarah his wife was Born June the 5th 1772."
***
FATHER:
# ID: I13112
# Name: John ELDER
# Given Name: John
# Surname: Elder
# Sex: M
# Birth: Abt 1737 in , , Maryland 1
# Change Date: 9 Apr 2010 at 04:01

Father: John ELDER
Mother: Jemima DORSEY

Marriage 1 Honor DORSEY b: 3 Nov 1737 in , Anne Arundel, Maryland
Children
1. Michael ELDER b: 23 Nov 1763 in , , Maryland
2. Helen ELDER b: 14 Jul 1765 in , , Maryland
3. Providence ELDER b: 11 Sep 1767 in , Baltimore, Maryland

Marriage 2 Sarah
Children
1. John ELDER b: 5 Jun 1772 in , Baltimore, Maryland
2. Jemima ELDER b: 1 Mar 1774 in , , Maryland
3. Honor ELDER b: 21 Feb 1776 in , , Maryland
4. Owen ELDER b: 9 May 1778 in , , Maryland

Sources:
1. Abbrev: LDS Family Search
Title: LDS Family Search
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Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LDS records in FamilySearch.org - connected with Dorsey/Elder of Maryland:

Patrick Henery Elder Compact Disc #89 Pin #757474
Birth: 27 Jun 1904 Huntington,Cabell,W. Virginia
Death: 28 Feb 1978 South Greensburg,Westmorland,Pennsylvania
Burial: 3 Mar 1978 Kyle Cemetary,Huntington,Cabell,W. Virginia
Father: Andrew Jackson Elder Disc #89 Pin #757406
Mother: Mary 'Ella' Dirton Disc #89 Pin #757444
Marriage(s)
Spouse:
Ruby Alice Watts Disc #89 Pin #757664
Marriage: Nov 1927 Huntington,Cabell,W. Virginia
Submitter
Leslie Paul ELDER
6636 Washington Blvd. Trlr. 39 Elkridge Maryland 21075
Submission Search:
2738090-0609104195846
Pedigree Resource File - Compact Disc #89
CD-ROM Features:
Pedigree View, Family View, Individual View, Reports, Downloadable GEDCOM files, Notes and Sources.
Order Pedigree Resource File CD-ROMS

FATHER:
Basil Dorsey Elder Dr.
B: 23 Feb 1831 Carroll MD....

Kyle Cemetery listings for ELDER (no photo of stone, just of the cemetery)
Findagrave
at
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=elder&GSiman=1&GScid=1980786&GRid=8562618&
Andrew J. Elder
Birth: Jun. 27, 1862
Death: Mar. 8, 1952
Husband of Mary E. Elder.
Inscription:
FATHER
ANDREW J. ELDER
JUNE 27, 1862 MAR. 8, 1952
Burial:
Kyle Cemetery
Lesage
Cabell County
West Virginia, USA
Created by: Candie Freeman
Record added: Mar 27, 2004
Find A Grave Memorial# 8562618
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Findagrave
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=elder&GSiman=1&GScid=1980786&GRid=8562612&
Patrick H. Elder
Birth: Jun. 27, 1904
Death: Feb., 1978
Husband of Ruby A. Elder.
Inscription:
ELDER
PATRICK H. and RUBY A.
1904 - 1978 -----1902 - 1973
Burial:
Kyle Cemetery
Lesage
Cabell County
West Virginia, USA
Created by: Candie Freeman
Record added: Mar 27, 2004
Find A Grave Memorial# 8562612
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:14 pm    Post subject: Brooke Co W(VA) - Thomas Elder in 1840? Reply with quote

1840
Thomas Elder
County: Brooke
State: Virginia
Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39: 1
Free White Persons - Females - Under 5: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 2
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14: 2
Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39: 1
Total - All Persons (Free White, Free Colored, Slaves): 8
Persons Employed in Manufacture and Trade: 1
Free White Persons - Under 20: 6
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2
Total Free White Persons: 8
Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: 8
Source Citation: Year: 1840;
Census Place: , Brooke, Virginia; Roll 191;
Page: 552; Image: 395; Family History Library Film: 0029684.
Ancestry.com Census
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Google Books: "Gateway to the West" By Ruth Bowers, Anita Short
Page 690
http://tinyurl.com/2cc8hyz
3-22-1825 John ELDER of Knox Co., Ohio, Thomas ELDER of Brook Co.,Va,
and Thomas ELDER and Margaret his wife of Washington, Penna. to Hugh Newell of Mt. Vernon, Knox Co. - $700. - In-lots 129 & 130 in Mt. Vernon.
Signatures of Thos. Elder, Sr. and Thos Elder, Jr.
attested to in Jefferson Co., Ohio. (Deed Book F, page 252).
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1860
Name: Thomas Elder
Age in 1860: 12
Birth Year: abt 1848
Birthplace: Ohio
Home in 1860: Mount Vernon, Knox, Ohio
Gender: Male
Post Office: Mount Vernon
Household Members:
Name Age
Thos. Elder 45 (1815 NJ)
John Elder 14
Thomas Elder 12 (1848)
Lettitia Elder 11
Ellen Carter 25
Sarah Carter 1
Source Citation: Year: 1860;
Census Place: Mount Vernon, Knox, Ohio;
Roll M653_994; Page: 70; Image: 144; Family History Library Film: 803994.
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1930
Name: Thomas H Elder
Home in 1930: Clinton, Knox, Ohio
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1914
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Name: Guy
Mother's Name: Helen
Race: White
Household Members:
Name Age
Guy Elder 38
Helen Elder 36
Arthur R Elder 17
Thomas H Elder 16
Ralph E Elder 8
Thelma Elder 7
Richard E Elder 6
Source Citation: Year: 1930;
Census Place: Clinton, Knox, Ohio;
Roll 1826; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 13; Image: 205.0.

***
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Vancouver, WA USA
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http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
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