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David Renwick Elder - Of Lochee, Dundee, Scotland

 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:22 am    Post subject: David Renwick Elder - Of Lochee, Dundee, Scotland Reply with quote

10-26-2009 -
I received the book "Frogmen of Burma, the Story of the Sea Reconnaissance Unit" (of WWII), by
Lt. Commander Bruce S. Wright
Published 1968. 152 p. With Photos
Interlibrary loan from University of Montana
Inscribed by the Author: "To the Wildlife Management Institute in appreciation of all it has done for me." Bruce Wright"

Notes of mention in the book for
David Renwick ELDER, M.C., The Black Watch,
who came from Elder family of "Lochee, Dundee, Scotland"
In the book he is called "JOCK ELDER."

In training camp on the coast with the U.S. Marine Raiders at Camp Pendleton, California. 1943

Page 29.
"Number One Section Commander was Captain Jock Elder, M.C., The Black Watch."
"Jock was a medium-sized, dark-visaged Scotsman, tough and wiry as leather. His Military Cross was a memento of Dunkerque, where he had had a severe baptism of fire. It speaks volumes about Jock that soon after the Dunkerque experience his name appeared on the list of volunteers for hazardous service. His well-developed boxer-type muscles made him susceptible to cramp in the water, and he had to work harder than most to acquire the frogman skills."

Page 36. In California
"The United States was in the full flush of its war effort at the time
and Britain's stock there was high. The S.R.U. offficers stayed at various Los Angeles hotels on the leaves .....
Captain Jock Elder of the Black Watch, who had an M.C. from Dunkerque, was perhaps the star of the group. In Hollywood a kilt backed up by the Military Cross was a gift from the gods to every master of ceremonies in town."

24 Photo pages: Between Pages 48 and 49
48 E - Nightclubbing in Hollywood... (not named)
48 F-G - Sea Reconnaissance Unit Officers at Camp Pendleton, Calif. All named.
"Capt. Jock Elder, The Black Watch" (Kilt and Tam)
Standing behind and to left of Bruce Wright
48 K - H.R.H. The Duke of Windsor with members of the
Sea Reconnaisance Unit in Nassau
(2nd row - Tam and shirt - Must be "Jock" Elder
seated to right of Duke of Windsor)
48 L-M "The Finalists,"
at the completion of training, Nassau, Bahamas, 1944
(Jock Elder - Seated in 2nd row, with Tam and Jacket)

Maps on Inside Front and Back covers:
Shows the 1st Section S.R.U. with "20 Indian Div."
Feb. 12, 1945 near Myinmu, to the west of Mandalay,
along the Irrawaddy River, Burma
(also with "19 Indian Div." to the north of Mandalay)

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 3:18 am    Post subject: More ELDER names in Dundee, Angus, Scotland Reply with quote

Tay Valley Family History Society
 Family History Research Centre, 179-181 Princes Street, Dundee, Scotland.
at
http://www.tayvalleyfhs.org.uk

and
Howff Cemetery database 10 entries in Findagrave
at
https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2232388/the-howff

Howff Cemetery database -- HowffinitE.pdf

"The Howff is Dundee's oldest surviving cemetery. 
 Bequeathed to the town by Mary Queen of Scots, it was the main burial ground for around 300 years, closing to interments in the mid 19th century.

Search Results for surname: ELDER -- 215 entries found, including
Name:  Elder, David 
Burial Date:  22 May 1792
Name:  Elder, David 
Burial Date:  24 Jun 1844 
Age at Death:  47 
Birthplace:  Dundee 
Occupation:  Weaver 
Cause of Death:  Fever 
Last Address:  Rosebank

Name:  Elder, George
Burial Date:  23 Sep 1787

Name:  Elder, Helen
Burial Date:  07 Jan 1779

Name:  Elder, James
Burial Date:  19 Feb 1776

Nawrocki Family Tree:
https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/17900852/person/29341734747/facts
for
David Elder
Birth 1775 • Dundee, Forfer, Angus, Scotland
Death 4 SEP 1857 • Lochee, Dundee, Scotland

Scotland's People database - Birth - Old Parish registers
ELDER DAVID
Parents: GEORGE ELDER/ALISON SMITH FR673
(FR673)
M
24/08/1775
322/30 69
Tealing

Letters from Dundee to Marion Co OH
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/genealogy/ed/EldersFewsLocheeLetters.htm

Elders Consulting Engineers LLP is a full-service consultancy, with professional and technical expertise which spans the entire spectrum of building design and environmental management
DUNDEE OFFICE
at
http://www.eldersllp.com

Google books: 
Recreations of an Antiquary in Perthshire History and Genealogy 
 By Robert Scott Fittis
Page 172 
On the 28th March, 1543"..The law against controversy on the bible was transgressed in the town of Perth. 
John Elder, burgess, had to pay L200 (Scots) to procure his remission from the charge of having so disputed, contrary to the tenor of the Act of Parliament...."
Page 183 
..."Several citizens of the town having been observed to sympathise with the martyrs, the Cardinal saw fit to punish them; and accordingly Sir Henry Elder, a priest, John Elder, Walter Piper, Laurence Pullar, and others were forthwith banished the town...." 
 

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http://www.abertay.ac.uk
Dr. Leona Elder, Senior Lecturer, Head of School of Social and Health Sciences
"... (01382 308727, e-mail L.elder@abertay.ac.uk) who interacts with the university's research policy agenda through membership of the Research Committee, which all Heads of School attend."

NOTICES FROM THE SCOTTISH EPISCOPAL CHURCH
At
https://www.scotland.anglican.org/notices-12/

“The Rev David Elder died on 16 August 2016. A non-stipendiary priest within the Diocese of Brechin, he was Assistant Priest at St Salvador’s, Dundee for 14 years, and Priest in Charge of St Martin’s, Dundee for 15 years. He was aged 88. May he rest in peace, and rise in glory.”

TEALING NEWS
Neil S. Elder 1883-? b. ca. 1852 Watten CAI; M.A.
(Caithness, also BAIN names there)

HOUSE OF LORDS
MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
Die Mercurii 21° Julii 1999
The House met at half-past two o’clock.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld199899/minutes/990721/ldminute.htm
2. Lord Elder—Thomas Murray Elder Esquire, having been created Baron Elder, of Kirkcaldy in Fife, for life by Letters Patent dated in the afternoon of 19th July 1999, was introduced between the Lord Haskel and the Baroness Smith of Gilmorehill,

Lord Thomas ELDER, (1737–1799) Provost of Edinburgh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Elder_(Lord_Provost_of_Edinburgh)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SCOTLAND CENSUS 1861 DUNDEE

Name: Ewing Elder
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1797
Relationship: Father-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Broughty Ferry, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 282/1
Registration district: Dundee First District
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 64 Constable Street
Occupation: Seaman
ED: 26
Household schedule number: 87
LINE: 6
Roll: CSSCT1861_39
Household Members:
Name Age
Catherine Elder 30
William Elder 70
Ann Elder 3 Mo
Ewing Elder 64
Source Citation

Parish: Dundee; ED: 26; Page: 17; Line: 6; Roll: CSSCT1861_39

SCOTLAND CENSUS 1861 - DUNDEE - problem to research

Name: William Elder
Age: 70 (maybe 7 years old)
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791 (maybe 1854)
Relationship: Son
Mother's name: Catherine Elder
Where born: Broughty Ferry, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 282/1
Registration district: Dundee First District
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 64 Constable Street
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 26
Household schedule number: 87
LINE: 4
Roll: CSSCT1861_39
***
SCOTLAND CENSUS 1871 - St Andrew, ANGUS
Name: William Elder
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relationship: Son
Mother's name: Cathrine Elder
Gender: Male
Where born: Brought Ferry, forfar shire
Registration Number: 282/4
Registration district: St Andrew
Civil Parish: St Andrew
County: Angus
Address: 80 Mathews Land Constable St
Occupation: Mill Worker
ED: 32
Household schedule number: 55
LINE: 6
Roll: CSSCT1871_53
Household Members:
Name Age
Cathrine Elder 37
William Elder 17
John Elder 3 (b, 1868)
Ann Hustis 21 (boarder, weaver)
Catherine Fergusson 14 (boarder, mill worker)
Source Citation
Parish: St Andrew; ED: 32; Page: 9; Line: 6; Roll: CSSCT1871_53

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FINDAGRAVE - BARNHILL - DUNDEE
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/176198867/william-elder
William Elder
Birth 1851
Broughty Ferry, Dundee City, Scotland
Death 15 Jan 1916 (aged 64–65)
Broughty Ferry, Dundee City, Scotland
Burial
Barnhill Cemetery
Dundee, Dundee City, Scotland
***
PVT. JAMES ELDER - BARNHILL CEM - DUNDEE
LARGE MONUMENT PHOTO with more names
at
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/56634271/james-elder
"Private Elder served with the Army Service Corps~Service No:S4/055749.
He was 27 and the son of Mrs Eliza U. Elder, of 1 Argyle Terrace, Broughty Ferry.
He was previously commemorated on the Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial"
***
LARGE MONUMENT "Erected by ELIZA URQUHART in memory of her husband SAMUEL ELDER, who died 13 June 1904 age 54" ... more names.... ELIZA d. 16th Jan 1926, age 75 years. Interred at Wylam-on-Tyne."

***
SCOTLAND CENSUS 1891 BROUGHTY FERRY
Name: William Elder
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relationship: Son
Father's name: Willm Elder
Mother's name: Ann Elder
Gender: Male
Where born: B Ferry, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 310
Registration district: Monifieth
Civil Parish: Monifieth
Town: Broughty Ferry
County: Angus
Address: Dundas St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 324
LINE: 10
Roll: CSSCT1891_103
Household Members:
Name Age
Willm Elder 40
Ann Elder 36
Emila Elder 13
Ann Elder 9
William Elder 5
Mary Elder 2
Source Citation
Parish: Monifieth; ED: 1; Page: 58; Line: 10; Roll: CSSCT1891_103
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SCOTLAND CENSUS - 1901 BROUGHTY FERRY
Name: Eliza Urquhart
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Samul Elder
Gender: Female
Where born: melltrse, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 310
Registration district: Monifieth
Civil Parish: Monifieth
Town: Broughty Ferry
County: Angus
Address: Castle St 8 Alpha Ter
Occupation: Shipping Clerks Wife
ED: 6
Household schedule number: 66
LINE: 9
Roll: CSSCT1901_111
Household Members:
Name Age
Samul Elder 43
Eliza Urquhart 47
Allan Elder 20
Samuel Elder Jun 18
Eliza Elder 15
James Elder 11
Charles Milne 48
Source Citation
Parish: Monifieth; ED: 6; Page: 13; Line: 9; Roll: CSSCT1901_111

SCOTLAND CENSUS - 1901
Name: Samul Elder
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Eliza Urquhart
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirkbuddo, Forfarshire (10 mi N of Broughty Ferry)
Registration Number: 310
Registration district: Monifieth
Civil Parish: Monifieth
Town: Broughty Ferry
County: Angus
Address: Castle St 8 Alpha Ter
Occupation: Shepping Clerk
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SCOTLAND CENSUS -1901
for - JOHN WILL ELDER - His mother is CATHERINE WILL

Name: John W Elder
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relationship: Son
Mother's name: Cathrine Elder
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 282/4
Registration district: St Andrew
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 80 Constable St
Occupation: Hammerman
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 183
LINE: 11
Roll: CSSCT1901_99
Household Members:
Name Age
Cathrine Elder 70
John W Elder 32
Robert Hastie 38 (Boarder, Jute worker)
Source Citation
Parish: Dundee; ED: 5; Page: 27; Line: 11; Roll: CSSCT1901_99

MARRIAGES - SCOTLAND
Name: John Will Elder
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 11 Feb 1868
Birth Place: Dundee,Angus,Scotland
Father: William Elder
Mother: Catherine Will
FHL Film Number: 6035516

1871
Name: John Elder
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relationship: Son
Mother's name: Cathrine Elder
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, forfar shire
Registration Number: 282/4
Registration district: St Andrew
Civil Parish: St Andrew
County: Angus
Address: 80 Mathews Land Constable St
ED: 32
Household schedule number: 55
LINE: 7
Roll: CSSCT1871_53
Household Members:
Name Age
Cathrine Elder 37
William Elder 17
John Elder 3
Ann Hustis 21
Catherine Fergusson 14
Source Citation
Parish: St Andrew; ED: 32; Page: 9; Line: 7; Roll: CSSCT1871_53
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