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ELDER cemetery monuments in Kinross-shire, Scotland

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:41 am    Post subject: ELDER cemetery monuments in Kinross-shire, Scotland Reply with quote

I'm happy to see JOHN GIBSON CHALMERS is back from his vacation,
and again posting lookups to my queries on the
Tay Valley Family History Society Discussion in Scotland:

--- John Gibson Chalmers wrote:
> Nancy,
> Sorry for the delay in replying - been on vacation for the past 3
> weeks and now trying to catch up on a huge back log of e-mail.
> Two ELDER's in the Milnathort MI's [Monument Inscriptions book]
> 8 (next to 7) John Peat of Loadside 22.4.1846 80,
> w Mary Elder at Grangehall near Stirling 20.7.1876 83,
chn [children] Alex at Loadside 22.3.1838 11,
Eliz in London 3.5.1857 24 (w of Wm Horn engineer),
Jessie at Milnathort 10.10.1920
> 62 (grey granite obelisk) Alex Elder millwright Little Seggie
> .12.1823 73, w ELiz Morrison .3. 18 2 82,
by gs [grandson] Alex Elder in Liverpool
> (not sure about that date .3. 18 2 82 - that's as it is in the
> transcription)
> w - wife
> chn - children
> gs - grandson
> Must rush just now, but get back to me if you need any more.
> John

Nancy replies:
From: [tay-valley-bridges]

Thanks! The Milnathort inscriptions fit well with the
"Memoir of JOHN ELDER" (of Glasgow Steamships)
by William John Macquorn Rankine -- full text
"ALEXANDER, born at Little Seggie about
1748, carried on at the place, and afterwards at
Milnathort, the same business [Millwright].
He married Elizabeth Morrison, by whom he had two sons and
three daughters, and died at Milnathort in December
1823. "

ALEX ELDER, grandson (and son of DAVID ELDER)
who provided the monument,
is found in the book about John's wife:
"The Lady of Claremont House; Isabella Elder, Pioneer and
by C. Joan McAlpine, Argyll Publishing, 1997. Glendaruel, Argyll,
Interlibrary loan from University of Georgia Library.
... "Alexander [her husband's younger brother]
was wealthy in his own right and had formed the firm of Elder,
Dempster & Co trading to West Africa.
... He founded the Alexander Elder Chair of Naval Architecture at
Liverpool University in 1909.
He died in 1915 and left 100,000 pounds for a hospital to be built
near the Elder Park [Glasgow] to be known as the David Elder
... now David Elder Wing of the Dept. of Obstetrics and Gynaecology
in the Southern General Hospital, opened in March 1987.
Page 198
Note 18:
Mr. Alexander Elder's will from Journal of Commerce March 26, 1915.
He also left 50,000 pounds for a new wing for the Western Infirmary
to be named the Alexander Elder wing.
Also Alexander Memorial Chapel, opened in 1915.
"Alexander Elder had no family and his wife was very frail when he

RE: KINROSS and GLASGOW - JOHN ELDER, Steamship Engineer
notes (still hoping to connect)
Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
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