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Stephen Elder of KY - "FRANKLIN CO PA"

 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Stephen Elder of KY - "FRANKLIN CO PA" Reply with quote

Stephen Elder of KY -Separating "PETER ELDER" from "FRANKLIN CO PA" group

Taken From QUERY ON ELDER GENFORUM,
this family appears to originate in
“FRANKLIN CO PA” group, found in TN/KY which was studied by ANN ELDER BROOKS POE.
Also printed in Lee ELDER’s book of “PETER ELDER.”

Posting notes on my webpage
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/LewisCoWa.htm

DAVID LORD asks:
RE: Stephen Elder (KY, IND, IA) 1807-1898 and family
Date: December 15, 2007 at 08:22:59
in ELDER Genforum
at
http://genforum.genealogy.com/elder/messages/2414.html

A - Does anyone have the parents/ancestry of this ancestor of mine?
B - Are you a descendant?

Wife: Ann Watson Stewart b: 07 Dec 1809 in Pulaski Co, Kentucky,
m: 03 Dec 1829 in Pulaski Co, Kentucky,
d: 16 Jan 1893 in Knoxville, Marion Co, Iowa

11 Children:
1.Serena Caroline Elder
b: 16 Oct 1829 in Pulaski Co, Kentucky
d: 07 Nov 1882 in Knoxville, Marion Co, Iowa
+Joshua Jenkins b: 12 Dec 1822 in Monongalia Co, Virginia
m: 01 Jan 1849 in Brown Co, Indiana,
d: 23 Feb 1914 in Marion Co, Iowa

2. James E Elder
b: 12 Sep 1831 in Brown Co, Indiana
d: 01 Oct 1857 in Knoxville, Marion Co, Iowa
+Margaret Jane Bonebrake
b: Abt. 1835 in Georgetown, Floyd Co, Indiana
m: 01 Jul 1855 in Marion Co, Iowa

3. Henry Harrison Elder
b: Nov 1833 in Brown Co, Indiana
d: 1911 in Centralia [LEWIS Co] Washington
+Sarah E Collins b: Nov 1836 in Indiana
m: 1856 in Marion Co, Iowa d: Aft. 1911

4. Emily Jane Elder
b: 20 Oct 1835 in Brown Co, Indiana
d: 17 Dec 1921 in Rolfe, Pocahontas Co, Iowa
+Samuel W Bonebrake
b: 31 May 1832 in Georgetown, Floyd Co, Indiana
m: 16 Aug 1855 in Marion Co, Iowa
d: 05 Oct 1880 in Ringgold Co, Iowa

5. Martha Ann Elder
b: 1837 in Brown Co, Indiana
d: 30 Jan 1867 in Marion Co, Iowa
+Charles Wilson Maddy
b: 17 Dec 1832 in Rush Co, Indiana
m: 18 Nov 1856 in Marion Co, Iowa
d: 03 Jul 1909 in Columbia, Marion Co, Iowa

6. Alfred P Elder
b: 1840 in Brown Co, Indiana
d: Aft. 19 Oct 1898 in Nebraska

7. John Wesley Elder
b: Oct 1844 in Brown Co, Indiana
d: Aft. 1910 in Missouri
+Emily Jane Banta
b: Feb 1844 in Indiana
m: 14 Apr 1864 in Marion Co, Iowa
d: Aft. 1910 in Missouri

8. Squire Griffin Elder
b: 13 Dec 1845 in Brown Co, Indiana
d: 28 Jun 1935 in St Joseph, Buchanan Co, Missouri
+Nancy Ellen Brady b: 31 Jul 1845 in Marion Co, Iowa
m: 21 Dec 1865 in Marion Co, Iowa
d: 23 Jul 1923 in Knoxville, Marion Co, Iowa

9. Elijah Winfield Scott Elder
b: 1848 in Brown Co, Indiana
d: Bef. 19 Oct 1898
+Grace Horseman b: Abt. 1847 in Illinois
m: 30 Sep 1869 in Marion Co, Iowa

10. Mary Josephine Elder
b: 17 May 1851 in Knoxville, Marion Co, Iowa
d: 11 Aug 1892 in Knoxville, Marion Co, Iowa
+Henry C Adams b: in Indiana
m: 30 Sep 1869 in Marion Co, Iowa ……..
2nd Husband of Mary Josephine Elder:
+J R Sage m: 23 Dec 1884 in Polk Co, Iowa

11. Franklin Pierce Elder
b: 1854 in Knoxville, Marion Co, Iowa
d: Aft. 19 Oct 1898 in Council Bluffs, Pottawattamie Co, Iowa
+Nora b: Abt. 1872 in Nebraska

C - Do you have pictures to trade?
D - Do you have details of family history?

If yes to any of above, contact me so we can combine our resources.
***

Nancy Elder Petersen replied:

>I believe we are ELDER DNA cousins!

>Searching for PULASKI Co KY in this ELDER GENFORUM,
I found Ann Elder Brooks POE’s entry
at
http://genforum.genealogy.com/elder/messages/1130.html

>Ann died a few years ago, but I have some of
her research papers, and she had helped her male ELDER cousins participate in the ELDER DNA project, matching my
brother’s Y-DNA.

She writes:
>"John Elder was the brother of Stephen Elder both sons of Jacob Elder. Jacob’s will names Stephen, Elijah, Hannah, and John Elder his children. 9th Feb. 1818, recorded in Lincoln Co KY. Jacob Elder the son of Samuel & Hannah Elder (Samuel is the Elder who died in Sevier Co TN 1811 and we have his will.)
Jacob was living in Pulaski Co KY by 1807, tax list and first marriage to Nancy Collier…”

DNA research summary:
“JACOB ELDER, d. 1818 KY” is listed
in the PETER ELDER book, page 27, while his descendants actually match the DNA of my brother,
in our “FRANKLIN CO PA” group.

ELDER DNA ANALYSIS finds differences in ELDER lines.
“Robert Elder, Rev. War Soldier of Path Valley, died Franklin County, Pennsylvania, and
was born near Perth, on the Tay, Scotland…about 1730″
–ELDER HISTORY.

Looking at the “PETER ELDER” list, (Jacob, page 27)
where the DNA kits for descendants of
“SAMUEL ELDER d. 1811 Meigs Co TN” [Sevier Co TN]
ARE NOT MATCHING DNA of 4 “PETER ELDER” kits:

SAMUEL’s descendants have
4 MATCHES with “FRANKLIN CO PA”
(using authoritative PA kits, 20 kits total are matching)

see Tennessee, Kentucky and Arkansas matches to FRANKLIN CO PA:
“WILLIAM ELDER” b. 1780 m. Rebecca Cate as
Ancestor of Ann ELDER POE,
(ELDER DNA kits #13706, #23663 as Sevier Co TN)= “Franklin Co PA”

his brother
“John S. ELDER” b. 1782 m. Nancy Sullins as
Ancestor of John Silas ELDER b. 1845 TN d. 1913 AR = “Franklin Co PA”
(ELDER DNA kit #85035)

his brother
“Jacob ELDER” d. 1818 KY as
Ancestor of (ELDER DNA kit #20638)= “Franklin Co PA”
_________________
Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com
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