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ELDER families of Ballymoney and Finvoy in County Antrim

 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:32 pm    Post subject: ELDER families of Ballymoney and Finvoy in County Antrim Reply with quote

Ray ELDER's new webpage
at:
http://www.elder.org.uk
has:
"Genealogy & Family History of the Elder Family in Northern Ireland"

"John Owens & Elizabeth Elder, 1811"
John Owens married Elizabeth Elder in 1811 at the Parish Church in Ballymoney, Antrim, Ireland.
Source: Microfilm for Northern Ireland Marriages.
Posted on November 30, 2006 11:26 PM

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"COMMENTS" posted by Nancy Elder Petersen:
LDS Familysearch.org
found:
ELIZABETH ELDER
Female
Marriages:
Spouse: JOHN OWENS
Marriage:
21 MAR 1811 Ballymoney Parish, Antrim, Ireland
Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M700001 1805 - 1845 0908674 IT 2 Film 0883747 Film
Sheet: 00
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RE: HENRY ELDER of BELLURY, DESERTOGHILL,
Co. LONDONDERRY.
Relative also has some early BALLYMONEY entries,
at:
WorldConnect
by Craig ELDER (ELDER DNA kit #15134)
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1697853&id=I77236695
# ID: I77236695
# Name: John (III) ELDER
# Given Name: John (III)
# Surname: Elder
# Sex: M
# Birth: 1720 in Balleymoney, Antrim, Ireland
# Death: in Balleymoney, Antrim, Ireland

Father: John (II) ELDER b: 1690 in Antrim County, Ireland

Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
Children
1. ? ELDER
2. John W (IV) ELDER b: 1752 in Balleymoney, Antrim, Ireland
3. James ELDER b: 25 Dec 1757 in Antrim County, Ireland
4. Thomas ELDER b: 1797 in Ballymoney, Antrim, Ireland

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ELDER query on NIR-ANTRIM -list
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/NIR-ANTRIM/2001-01/0979229691
From: jessie
Subject: Re: Finvoy, Ballymoney - or elsewhere
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:14:51 -0600

thomas.moffatt@bull.net wrote:
>Whenever I'm looking for a place that could be a town, I use :
>http://maps.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll
>I sent a map from this site with Finvoy in the middle directly to >Jessie.
> Cheers,
> Tom

Jessie writes:
....
my ELDER family, according to lore, lived 2 miles from the little
town, which i now conclude must have been Ballymoney, not Ballymena.
if they were active in the Finvoy church, i conclude they probably
lived between Ballymoney and Finvoy, which are only about 5 miles
apart. hurrah! i can now point to a map and say where they were!

now i'm off to search for info on their landlord, Lord Cavenaugh!
....
thank you again!

Jessie
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LDS: BALLYMONEY search:

865. SUSANNA ELDER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 29 JUN 1856 Ballymoney Parish, Antrim, Ireland
866. ROBERT ELDER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 31 MAY 1829 Ballymoney Parish, Antrim, Ireland
867. NANCY RACHEL ELDAR OR ELDER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 AUG 1857 Ballymoney Parish, Antrim, Ireland
868. JANE ELDER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 23 JAN 1831 Ballymoney Parish, Antrim, Ireland

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Searching same family as CRAIG ELDER:
for
ELDER in FINVOY, ANTRIM
found:
http://westwood.fortunecity.com/farhi/469/elder.htm
Email me at:
jessie@dakota2k.net
"NOTE: this is information extracted from "Our Family History" by
William E. Elder, a manuscript written (I think) in 1909....
...
"At the very end, I include family information written down by my uncle, James Lanphere Elder, to show my connection to the Antrim County,
Coshocton County and Monroe County lineage.

ELDER Family in Antrim County, Ireland
"The earliest record is of a John Elder (1) who emigrated from near Edinborough, Scotland in 1680 to Antrim County, Northern Ireland. He rented land from a Lord Cavenaugh two miles east of a small village named Bellamona. His descendents in Ireland would hold this lease for the next 150 years, until 1830.

There is no mention of dates of birth, death or marriage or name of wife. But there is a son, John Elder (2), born ca. 1690.

John (2) had two sons, John (3), born ca. 1720, and Henry, born ca. 1735. Henry is noted as the founder of the Henry Elder lineage of Monroe County, Iowa. Henry's son Mathew was born ca. 1775. Mathew lived long and passed his last years living with his son Henry (grandson of previous Henry) in Monroe County, where he is buried.

It was noted that most of "his" (Henry's?) family went to Canada from Ireland and settled near Quebec. So I suppose it is possible that the older Henry from Ireland may have had more children than just Mathew.

Getting back to John (3), he had four children, three sons and a daughter. They were:

John (4), usually called "Jack," born 1752, active in the Presbyterian church of Finvoy.

James, born 1755, who became the preacher at the Finvoy church and stayed in that position for 60 years. James had two sons who emigrated to South Carolina in 1805. The author states nothing more is known of that line...."

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SEARCHING "JAMES ELDER" FINVOY CHURCH
found:
Finvoy Presbyterian Church Marriages, Bann Valley Genealogy
http://www.4qd.org/virtual/www.4qd.org/bann/church/Finvoy/Marriages.html
4 Aug 1879, Eliza Torrens, Maddikeel, dau of John Torrens, Farmer, to Daniel Elder, farmer, Ballinagarvey, son of James Elder, Farmer.

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Short History of the Presbyterian Church
in Ireland
Prof. John M. Barkley
M.A., Ph.D, D.D.,F. R. Hist.S.

CHAPTER III
THE CHURCH (1800-19
http://www.lisburn.com/books/history-presbyterian/history-presbyterian-2.html
....
.... The moderators of the two Synods, the Rev. James Elder, of Finvoy, and the Rev. John Rodgers, of Glascar, headed the procession. Having reached the place of destination, accompanied by an immense multitude, these two venerable ministers then proceeded to the pulpit, and conducted devotional exercises...."

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SEARCH "JAMES ELDER" and FINVOY
http://www.gospelmagazine.org.uk/may1966.pdf
Gospel Magazine, May 1966
Page 200
...1845
"About this time the congregation of Brigh near Coonstown [or Cookstown]
in the Tyrone Presbytery was vacant through the sudden death of
their minister Rev. Samuel Hamilton Elder, son of Rev. S. H. Elder
of Ballyeaston and grandson of Rev. James Elder of Finvoy who
in his day was known as the Gun of the Gospel. ..."

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SEARCH "JAMES ELDER" and FINVOY
http://www.gospelmagazine.org.uk/may1966.pdf
Gospel Magazine, 69 Fleet St, London, #1364 New Series, May 1966
Page 200 (or 9)
...1845
"About this time the congregation of Brigh near Coonstown in
the Tyrone Presbytery was vacant through the sudden death of
their minister Rev. Samuel Hamilton Elder, son of Rev. S. H. Elder
of Ballyeaston and grandson of Rev. James Elder of Finvoy who
in his day was known as the Gun of the Gospel. ..."

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SEARCH:
FINVOY PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH:
found:
http://www.biblioireland.com/1919/the-story-of-finvoy-presbyterian-church/
"The Story of Finvoy Presbyterian Church."
Author: THOMPSON, Joseph.
Ballymoney, 1990. vi, 225 pages. Illustrated. Paperback.

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From BALLYMONEYANCESTRY
http://www.ballymoneyancestry.com
Finvoy Presbyterian Headstone Survey
Firstname : Rev. James
Surname : Elder
Age : 86
Date died : 04/11/1843

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FROM BALLYMONEYANCESTRY
http://www.ballymoneyancestry.com
Connor wills
Firstname : Rev. James
Surname : Elder
Residence : Finvoy
Date of probate: 1844

Ballymoney Tithe Valuation
Firstname : Rev. Jas.
Surname : Elder
Year : 1834
Parish : Rasharkin
County : Antrim
Townland : Maheraboy
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Mapquest directions from Londonderry to BALLYMONEY:
Total Est. Time: 55 minutes
Total Est. Distance: 37.70 miles
http://tinyurl.com/yxpbwj

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Nancy writes:
Today I collected all 109 alphabetical ELDER entries
found on BALLYMONEY Ancestry's "Family Database"
--and posted on my webpage
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/BallymoneyData.htm
_________________
Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com
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