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Pecanplace1



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:16 pm    Post subject: Elder Cemetary Reply with quote

Hello Nancy, I got you message a while back and am just now getting back toyou. Is that slow or what? Anyway the only cemetary I know with Elders is the Oakland here in Trenton. When it warms up a little I`ll hop over there and take some photos of the stones. http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/cemeteries/oakland1.htm We have a friend staying with us thats moving here from Mass and is a old house lover like us. She found a very nice victorian a couple blocks from us and I told her to be sure to find out who the first owner was. Well it was a Dr. McCree that of all things was married to Sallie Mai Elder, a daughter of the owner of this house. So she won`t be the first owner that lived here first! Thats a little spooky! Very Happy
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Pecan Place, Trenton Tn. Originally owned by Horace McClung Elder. Front of house is dated 1890s and the rear whis is a part of a preivious elder home is dated 1846.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:14 pm    Post subject: ELDER cemeteries in TN Reply with quote

Thanks!
Now I'm looking at more "Find-A-Grave" online entries for ELDER.
I just found the JAMES and ELIZABETH H. ELDER marker photos in
ELMWOOD CEMETERY in Memphis.
at
Find-A-Grave
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=elder&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=45&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=8701024&

Elizabeth H. Elder
Birth: Mar. 26, 1817
Death: Dec. 29, 1882

Inscription: Wife of James Elder.

Burial:
Elmwood Cemetery
Memphis
Shelby County
Tennessee, USA

Record added: Apr 29 2004
By: Tracy

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http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pis&GSln=elder&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=45&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GSsr=41&GRid=8701027&PIgrid=8701027&PIcrid=11738&PIpi=904108&

James Elder
Birth: Oct. 8, 1809
Death: Mar. 1, 1890

Inscription: born Dinwiddie Co., VA

Burial:
Elmwood Cemetery
Memphis
Shelby County
Tennessee, USA

Record added: Apr 29 2004
By: Tracy
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More "PETER ELDER of VA" descendants'
cemetery marker photos in Find-A-Grave webpages
at
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSsr=41&GSmid=46637796&GRid=12835389&

Joseph William Elder
Birth: Mar. 22, 1831
Clarke County
Georgia, USA
Death: Nov. 8, 1913
Union (Clay County)
Clay County
Alabama, USA

Son of Wyche Malone Jenkins Elder & Mary Jane Burt
of Chambers County, Alabama.
Husband of Sarah Jane Manning and
Rosa Ann Elizabeth Hill Deloach.
CSA footstone: Private, Alabama Conscripts.

Epitaph: Come Ye Blessed
An honest man is the noblest work of God.

Burial:
Union Bapt. Church Cemetery
Clay County
Alabama, USA

Record added: Dec 31 2005
By: M C Speed
(with more links)
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Pecanplace1



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Nancy! I made a trip to oaklawn cemetary on a beautiful day and filled my memory card and still didnt get all the Elders. It`s a beautiful place with several old iorn fences and a gorgeous 19th century gazebo. This is the stone of Henery Lucas Elder who built the 1846 part of our house and is the father of Horace Mclung Elder who added the late victorian part to it in 1893.


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Pecan Place, Trenton Tn. Originally owned by Horace McClung Elder. Front of house is dated 1890s and the rear whis is a part of a preivious elder home is dated 1846.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horace Mclung`s stone and his wife. Feel free to remove these if they are in the wrong place.


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Pecan Place, Trenton Tn. Originally owned by Horace McClung Elder. Front of house is dated 1890s and the rear whis is a part of a preivious elder home is dated 1846.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And here`s one I know nothing about but found it interesting.


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Pecan Place, Trenton Tn. Originally owned by Horace McClung Elder. Front of house is dated 1890s and the rear whis is a part of a preivious elder home is dated 1846.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject: ELDER Cemetery - Gibson Co TN Reply with quote

Thanks again! Those photos are great!
I'm adding a new directory for "GibsonCoTN" to my webpages:
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/GibsonCoTN

and posting photo of Mary's cemetery stone and D.A.R. marker
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/GibsonCoTN/MaryElder1865.htm

Markers found
in
Oakland Cemetery
Trenton, Tennessee
http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/cemeteries/oakland5.htm

D.A.R. "REAL DAUGHTER" is " a first generation daughter of a patriot."

I found Mary's WorldConnect entry:
at
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jms4&id=I042414
by Michael Scrape
# ID: I042414
# Name: "Mary" Nancy Marie Towler
# Sex: F
# Birth: 1780 in Dinwiddie County, Virginia
# Death: JAN 1865 in Trenton, Gibson County. Tennessee
# Burial: Oakland Cemetery, Trenton, Tennessee
# Event: AKA (Facts Pg) Nancy Marie
# Reference Number: 42414

Marriage 1 Wiliam M. Elder b: 1773 in Dinwiddie County, Virginia
* Married: ABT 1797 in Dinwiddie County, Virginia
Children
1. Thomas Elder b: ABT 1797 in Dinwiddie Co., Virginia
2. Sarah D. Elder b: 1801 in Dinwiddie County, Virginia
3. George Elder b: ABT 1802 in Dinwiddie Co., Virginia
4. Benjamin Towler Elder , Sr b: 27 APR 1803 in Dinwiddie County, Virginia
5. Mary Jefferers Elder b: 1805 in Dinwiddie Co., Virginia
6. James Elder b: 8 OCT 1809 in Dinwiddie Co., Virginia
7. Robert T. Elder b: 12 FEB 1811 in Rutherford Co., Tennessee
8. William B. Elder Jr. b: ABT 1814 in Rutherford County, Tennessee
9. Monroe Burrowes Elder b: 11 APR 1818 in Rutherford Co, Tennessee
10. John Wesley Elder b: 4 JUN 1819 in Rutherford Co, Tennessee
11. Henry "Harry" Lucas Elder b: 14 JUN 1821 in Rutherford Co., Tennessee
12. Amanda C. Elder b: 4 DEC 1827 in Tennessee
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And father:
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=edithj&id=I158721
by Gerald Hankins Johnston
# Name: Benjamin TOWLER
# Sex: M
# Birth: 1752 in Charles City Co., Virginia
# Death: 1837 in Trenton, Gibson Co., Tennessee
# Burial: 1837 Bower's Chapel Cemetery, Brazil, Gibson Co., Tennessee
# Note:
Benjamin Towler was a Revolutionary War Veteran.
He was with General George Washington, at Yorktown, Virginia,
when General Cornwallis surrended to the Patriots.

Father: Christopher TOWLER b: ABT 1710 in Virginia

Marriage 1 Martha DARBY b: ABT 1755 in Virginia
* Married: ABT 1773 in Henrico Co., Virginia
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:23 pm    Post subject: Oakland Cemetery markers - Trenton, Gibson Co TN Reply with quote

Posting more ELDER markers for Oakland Cemetery - Trenton, Gibson Co TN

Martha (1822-1879) and Sallie Mai ELDER (1856-1882)
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/GibsonCoTN/MarthaSallie1856.htm

SALLIE MAI (1856 - 1882)
Worldconnect
by Michael Scrape
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jms4&id=I047994
# ID: I047994
# Name: Sallie Mai Elder
# Sex: F
# Birth: 4 NOV 1856 in Trenton, Gibson Co, Tennessee
# Death: 12 SEP 1882 in Trenton, Gibson Co, Tennessee
# Burial: Oakland Cemetery, Trenton, Gibson Co., Tn
# Change Date: 16 FEB 2001
# Reference Number: 47994

Father: John Wesley Elder b: 4 JUN 1819 in Rutherford Co, Tennessee
Mother: Martha Gillespie " Mesha" Houston b: 25 AUG 1822 in Alabama

Marriage 1 Alexander B. White b: in Paris, Tennessee
* Married: 19 OCT 1881 in Trenton, Gibson County, Tennessee
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:39 pm    Post subject: Henry Lucas ELDER Reply with quote

Henry Lucas ELDER monument:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/GibsonCoTN/HenryLucasElder.htm

WorldConnect
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jms4&id=I042492
by Michael Scrape
# ID: I042492
# Name: Henry "Harry" Lucas Elder
# Sex: M
# Birth: 14 JUN 1821 in Rutherford Co., Tennessee
# Death: 17 NOV 1878 in Trenton, Gibson Co. Tennessee
# Burial: Oakland Cemetary, Trenton, Tennessee
# Change Date: 12 OCT 2002
# Reference Number: 42492

Father: Wiliam M. Elder b: 1773 in Dinwiddie County, Virginia
Mother: "Mary" Nancy Marie Towler b: 1780 in Dinwiddie County, Virginia

Marriage 1 Harriet Newell Houston b: 19 OCT 1825 in Tennessee
* Married: 1845
Children
1. "Hal " Henry L. Elder b: in Trenton, Gibson Co, Tennessee
2. Horace McClung Elder b: 20 AUG 1847 in Trenton, Gibson Co, Tennessee
3. William "Willie" L. Elder b: 19 FEB 1850 in Trenton, Gibson Co, Tennessee
4. John W. Elder b: 2 AUG 1853 in Trenton, Gibson Co, Tennessee
5. Mary Leila Lila Elder b: 4 APR 1856 in Trenton, Gibson Co, Tennessee
6. Ida Elder b: 19 JUL 1863 in Trenton, Gibson County, Tennessee
7. Herbert Elder b: 1864 in Trenton, Gibson Co, Tennessee
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So these Elders were originaly from Virginia? You really amaze me Nancy how much you can come up with on all these people. I enjoy your website very much! Very Happy Its also interesting how many have the same names. If you noticed the OtherSalli Mai Elder Mcree, she is the daughter of Horace Mclung. Our friend from Mass just moved into her house. Were hoping to find out if Horace had it built for her as its a very beautiful home. The elders in trenton were a wealthy lot and had prominent homes and bussiness`s here as well as in other towns. i found a photo that I hope to get copied of Benjmin Elder in front of his law office. This photo is the Gibson County Bank that John Wesley started and I believe that this is John Wesley and his neph. Horace Mclung who was a cashier until his death.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: "PETER ELDER of VA" Book by Lee ELDER Reply with quote

Thanks for all the photos! It's great to find out about
the people behind the names!

Awhile back I purchased the "PETER ELDER of VA" genealogy book
by Lee ELDER, published in year 2000,
so I have that computer list, as well as Michael Scrape's
WorldConnect entries.

At the beginning of Lee Elder's book,
he writes:
"The earliest history we have of the Elder "clan," they were living
in Scotland in the 15th Century. Eventually they emigrated to
England and Ireland on account of their religious liberties and viewpoints.
PETER ELDER, SR. along with two brothers, came to this country in the early 1600's. They landed at Norfolk, VA..."

In our ELDER DNA project,
we are now finding that the descendants
of PETER ELDER group
do not match DNA of my brother's FRANKLIN CO PA
group, or the PAXTANG PA group.
But they do all fit on the Scotland DNA chart.
So we're trying to find out where they all came from in Scotland.

Found online - earliest ELDER entry for NORTHERN SCOTLAND:
JOHN ELDER, cartographer,
born in Caithness in 1500's, contributed to publication of
MERCATOR ATLAS OF EUROPE
see
http://www.walkingtree.com/excerptbarber.html

MAPPING BRITAIN FROM AFAR
Chapter Excerpt by Peter M. Barber
... "In France [ELDER] presented Mary, Queen of Scots, with an
autograph letter and
(in a display of indirect vanity?) a fanciful map of the New Utopia ostensibly by his eight-year-old pupil, Lord Darnley."

So we're always hoping to find more origins.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just as an interesting note:
While Michael Scrape and I both strongly believe that William M Elder who moved from Dinwiddie County, Virginia to Gibson County, Tennessee was of the Peter Elder line, paper evidence has not been found. However, all of the Dinwiddie County Elders whom I HAVE traced thus far connect to the Peter Elder line.
Dinwiddie is a burned county (many records were destroyed during the Civil War), but if there are any records still in existence which will help, I'm convinced I will find them eventually. I have two factors in my favor - I live 30 minutes from Dinwiddie Court House and Dinwiddie has a very liberal access policy concerning the old records.
As far as I'm aware, there are four vocal researchers (online) connected to the Dinwiddie Elders: Michael Scrape, Ken Elder, Bill Temple and yours truly. Of us all, I'm the only one still living in the area, so I feel a responsibility to untangle the Dinwiddie lines. In the last three years I have managed to untangle Bill's line and my husband's line, along with a few others.
As I narrow down the possibilities it seems increasingly likely (based on census ages) that Michael's ancestor William M Elder was the son of Ken's ancestor Thomas Elder. There were at one point four William Elder households in Dinwiddie, so it gets confusing. All I need is to find a piece of land that was held by each at different times, or some similar item. That is the focus of my next search at Dinwiddie. Maybe I could give Michael one more generation, at least.
I am convinced that my approach of trying to untangle all of the lines is the only way to trace particular lines successfully, especially with so many records missing.
CiCi
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: PETER ELDER DNA - Research in VA Reply with quote

Hi Cici,
Thanks so much for the update on research in VA.
That careful process certainly should help establish the early paper trails!

Thanks again for all you do to help us.
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