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David and Isabella(Wray) Elder and Those Who Came After Them

 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 9:31 pm    Post subject: David and Isabella(Wray) Elder and Those Who Came After Them Reply with quote

This is the title of a small, blue book I own. It was given to me by my father. The David Elder of the book is my ggggrandfather. He was born May 1, 1798 in Tath Valley, Franklin Co. PA and died August 18, 1885 in Alexis, Ill. His wife was Isabella Latta Wray. She was born Feb 3, 1798 and died March 25, 1877. Her father was James Wray and he came to America c.1795 His mother was said to be a cousin of Robert Burns
Are there any other Elder clan out there who are from this line? Would love to hear from you sometime.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:22 pm    Post subject: Isabella and David Reply with quote

Interesting that Donna Logan's database lists Isabella and David with PETER ELDER group. Looks like
a good candidate for DNA project!

Isabella Latta Wray and David Clark Elder Posted here:
http://www.familytrail.com/elder/PeterElderVirginia/ps24/ps24_169.html

LDS has
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=100038309270&lds=1®ion=11®ionfriendly=North+America&frompage=99

"David Clark Elder m. 1821 Beaver, PA
son of John ELDER and Nancy Clark

I'll try to find more info, too.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:42 pm    Post subject: John Elder and Nancy Clark Reply with quote

Searching the Net,
found:
WorldConnect Entry
by Patricia Morano <Patricia_Morano@msn.com>
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2515151&id=I04616
* ID: I04616
* Name: John ELDER 1
* Sex: M
* Birth: WFT Est. 1747-1776 1
* Death: WFT Est. 1801-1861 1
* Note:

[Brøderbund WFT Vol. 2, Ed. 1, Tree #0017, Date of Import: Dec 9, 2002]

*Moved from Path Valley, Franklin Co., Pa. to Beaver Co., Pa about 1805-6
John had a second wife that outlived him, but no name is available

Marriage 1 Nancy CLARK b: WFT Est. 1756-1779

* Married: WFT Est. 1788-1820 1
Children

1. David Clark ELDER b: 1 MAY 1798

Sources:

1. Title: World Family Tree Vol. 2, Ed. 1
Author: Brøderbund Software, Inc.
Publication: Release date: November 29, 1995
Note: Customer pedigree.
Repository:
Call Number:
Media: Family Archive CD
Page: Tree #0017
Text: Date of Import: Dec 9, 2002
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fendrick, Virginia Shannon.
American Revolutionary soldiers of Franklin County, Pennsylvania
[Chambersburg, Pa.] Historical Works Committee of the Franklin County Chapter [c1944].
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/FranklinCoSoldiers.htm
...
John Elder
Mount, appears in a "Class Roole" of Capt. Thos. Askey's Company, also with Capt. Noah Abraham, during 1778-80-81-82, command of Col. Jas. Dunlap.
   Penna. Arch. 5th Ser. Vol. 6, p. 41, 423, 441, 408, 620.
...

May 18, 1778, June, 1778 and Feb., 1779, A Petition from the Inhabitants of Path Valley, to the Executive Council of Penna., To contribute to our assistance by sending us some quantity of Rifled guns and amunition because M'skets is of very little use in the woods against Indians.  This our petition, we commit to our very trusty friends, Capt. Noah Abraham and James Elder, in whom we very mutch Confide.--
  Signers: Wm. Elder, Ens'n; David Elder; David Elder, Jr.; John Elder.
  The 2nd petition, of a similar nature, was signed by John Elder; David Elder; David Elder, Jr.; Robert Elder.  The 3rd Petition in 1779 had about 140 signers and was signed by John Elder; John Elder, Jr.; David Elder; Wm. Elder; Robert Elder; Abraham Elder; Tho. Elder; David Elder, Sr.
 The 2nd Peittion is ended as follows:  This is to sertify that ye Inhabetens of Fannett Twp., has Intrusted this Pittishen to ye bearer, David Elder, James Ardery, Robert Elder, Richard Coulter, Lt.
  Penna. Arch. 2nd Ser. vol. 3, p. 166, 167. Penna. Arch. 2nd Ser. Vol. 3, p. 185, 186.  Penna Arch. 2nd Ser. Vol. 3, p. 319, 320.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:10 pm    Post subject: WIDNEY in Franklin Co PA Reply with quote

Patricia Morano has WIDNEY names
in Franklin co PA:

Also see Upper Path Valley Presbyterian Church Cemetery, Spring Run, Fannett Township, Franklin Co PA
Tombstone photo:
 John Alexander Elder, b.29 Jan 1839-  [d. 1/ 27/1916  -membership records]    (son of Samuel Elder and Martha Alexander)
 Nancy M. Widney (1842-1909)                (dau of Johnston Widney and Mary Skinner)
  Jeremiah B. Elder, b. 1864-d.1905) their son
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Photo by Henry Irwin Elder, visiting from Salem, Oregon
Posted here:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/JohnNancy.htm
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:26 pm    Post subject: David and Isabella (Wray) Elder Reply with quote

I was interested to find this ELDER article in the current issue of
"Mists of Moigh," the Clan Mackintosh of North America Newsletter,
August 2005, page 6. (Full Transcription)
"Focus on the Septs - Elder Genealogy"
By Shelly Nauman
She writes:
"Having recently joined Clan Mackintosh, I felt compelled to share my
research that has resulted in a very large database containing
descendants of the original ELDERS who came to the Colonies in 1656.
The first three "Elders" were John and his younger brothers David
and Daniel. John indentured for 10 years to pay for the three
orphans' passages from London to the Norfolk port in 1656. David and
Daniel then traveled to Maine, but later returned to the PA and NY
areas to live. John stayed in Norfolk, and is listed as a landowner
on page 35 of "Book Year '0-6' of the Kings Colonies of Norfolk and
Princess Anne Counties of Virginia." The names John and David were
used in each family and become quite confusing to refer to. There
also exisists a John Elder who came to America later in the mid 1700s
and settled in California. This is not the same line of these
Elders. The original Elders all lived and settled in the areas of
PA, NY and VA, migrating to Iowa and Illinois where they are also
recorded as first land owners, and eventually spreading to as far
"west" as MO. My father and his sisters came to Colorado after
WWII.
"I have a genealogical outline of 20 generations of these original
Elders. Anyone wishing copies from me directly with dates and places
included may contact me; I will need my cost and postage covered. I
also have a copy of the original print: "David and Isabella Elder and
Those Who Came After Them," by Orville Elder, Washington/Iowa print,
1928. There are only a few in print, but it contains formal
genealogical lineage, photos, stories and letters written pre 1928.
The outline includes names of all, but does not contain dates or
places of those other than my direct lineage.
"Since the original John, David and Daniel were noted as "orphans"
leaving the London port in 1656, I have not been able to verify their
direct lineage in Scotland. My research leads to Eldar or Eldare de
Corstorfin who was burgess of Edinburgh in 1423. Elder is derived
from the Old English word "eldra" literally meaning "elder" refering
to the elder of two or more bearers of the same first name."
" I also have a graphic of David Clark Elder (May 1, 1798-August
18, 1885) and of the Elder family crest. Anyone who can share
verified pre-colonies information is encouraged to do so."
Shelly J. Nauman, P.O. Box 33416, Northglenn, Co 80233,
snauman@worldnet.att.net
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See ELDER DNA match for FRANKLIN CO PA:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder

and NancyP research webpage for Orville ELDER/David Clark ELDER:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/ed/OrvilleElder.htm

David Grant ELDER - DNA #44209 -
Descendant of William Alexander ELDER, son of David Clark ELDER, son of John ELDER.

Obituary - [Ringgold County, Iowa] - “David Clark ELDER” b. 1798 Franklin Co PA (father moved in 1802)
Died-August 22, 1885.
David Elder aged 86 years 6 months and 17 days.
Mr. Elder was born in Beaver county Pa.
He lived ten years in Columbiana county, Ohio,
and in Seneca and Logan counties in the same state.
In the year 1855 he moved with his family to Alexis Ill.,
in Warren County. For the last three years, he has
lived with his daughter Mrs. R.E. Lawhead in Mt. Ayr.
He early made a profession of faith, in the Christian religion,
and was “a good man, full of faith and the Holy Ghost.”
He has six children, four sons and two daughters.
On Monday his son and daughter took his remains to
Alexis Ill., for burial.
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1850 census
William Elder (son of David Clark and Isabella Wray)
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Birth place: Ohio
Gender: Male
Home in 1850
(City,County,State):
Harrison, Logan, Ohio
Household:
David head 50 PA
Isabella wife 49 PA
Margaret 18 OH
Wm 16
David 14 (David Clark Jr.)
Abraham 11
James 9
Image Source: Year: 1850; Census Place: Harrison, Logan, Ohio;
Roll: M432_704; Page: 188; Image: 379.

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JOHN ORVILLE ELDER (author of genealogy: "DAVID and ISABELLA ELDER and those who came after them"
f: David Clark Elder, Jr.
f: David Clark ELDER, b. 1798 Franklin Co PA
f. John Elder, b. 1755, Cumberland Co PA
(Rev. War Soldier, Moved in1802 -N. Beaver Twp, Beaver Co PA)
"John Elder -- Pension Record #S23616,"
Pennsylvania Line. Applied 5 Jun 1833 Beaver Co, PA
aged 78, a resident of North Beaver Twp. Soldier was born in
1755 in Cumberland Co, PA and lived there at enlistment.
In 1802 he moved to Beaver Co, PA. "


Iowa publications
Newspaper editor (Washington Co Iowa)
http://www.iowaoldpress.com/PUB/1911_UVWYZ.htm
Washington Evening Journal
Daily except Sunday
Ind
ed:Orville Elder
***
publisher:
"Samuel Hall, 47 Years a Slave; A Brief Story of His Life
Before and After Freedom Came to Him."
Hall, Samuel, b. 1818
Elder, Orville, b. 1866
[45 p.]
Washington, Iowa
Journal Print
1912
Summary:
http://docsouth.unc.edu/neh/hall/summary.html
"In his introduction and conclusion to "Samuel Hall, 47 Years a Slave,"
editor Orville Elder provides many additional facts about Hall's
relatives, childhood, and life after slavery. Hall's first person
account focuses primarily on his conflicts with William Wallace, his
pursuit of freedom, and his success in Iowa following the Civil War."

Allen County Public Library Catalog, Ft. Wayne, Indiana:
"David and Isabella Elder and those who came after them : a
compilation of such data as can be obtained concerning the Elder
family as represented by the David Elder branch"
Elder, Orville
Publisher:
[Elder],
Pub date:
1928.
Pages:
126 p. :

Call Number 929.2 EL231E
1
Book
Genealogy Department
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WorldConnect:
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2337011&id=I1694
by Sara Rall
ID: I1694
Name: John "Orville" Orville ELDER
Sex: M
Birth: 13 OCT 1867 in Warren Co., IL
Death: 4 JAN 1940 in Washington, Washington Co., IA
Change Date: 9 MAR 2002

Marriage 1 Caroline Louise RALL b: 1 APR 1878 in Ackley, Hardin Co.,IA
• Married: 4 APR 1907 in Cedar Falls, Black Hawk Co., IA
Children
1 David "Dave" Rall ELDER b: 18 APR 1911 in Washington, Washington Co., IA

Marriage 2 Josephine BABCOCK b: 19 NOV 1882 in Washington, Washington Co., IA
• Married: 29 MAR 1922
***
ID: I1695
Name: David "Dave" Rall ELDER
Sex: M
Birth: 18 APR 1911 in Washington, Washington Co., IA
Death: 2002 in Washington, Washington Co., IA
Note: in 1955 and in 2002 lived in washington, IA
Change Date: 23 AUG 2002
*******
Obituary:
http://www.ysmenusa.com/remembrances.htm
David Rall Elder
David Rall Elder, 90, of Washington, died Sunday, March 10, 2002,
at Halcyon House Health Care Center in Washington, following a lengthy illness.
Funeral services will be held at 6 p.m. Thursday, March 14, at Jones & Eden Funeral Home in Washington,
with the Rev. Ron McMenamin and Mike Zahs speaking. Burial will be in Elm Grove Cemetery at a later date.
Visitation begins at I p.m. Wednesday at the funeral home. Memorials may be directed to the
Washington Community Theater or Halcyon House Good Samaritan Fund.
Mr. Elder liked a good party and in accordance with his wishes, a reception with good food and fellowship
will be held in the fellowship room of the funeral home for friends following the service.

Mr. Elder was born April 18, 1911, in Washington, to Orville and Carolyn Louise (Rall) Elder.
He married Mable Livingston, Oct. 28, 1939. in Washington.
Mr. Elder was a lifelong resident of Washington. He graduated from
Washington High School. He attended Pomona College in California and later graduated
Phi Beta Kappa from Harvard University. He worked for 70 years at The Washington Evening Journal,
where he served as photographer, worked in the advertising department and
was head of the job printing department before becoming editor and publisher.
He was awarded Master Publisher honors by the Iowa Press Association. '
He received the Iowa Newspaper Foundation Heritage Club Award in 1992.

Mr. Elder was involved in the Y's Men's Club, both locally and internationally.
He was editor of the internationally known Y's Men's World Magazine for 27 years,
and attended the Y's Men's international conventions most of those years.
In the Mid American Region there is an award given in his honor, to a Y's who has done outstanding service to the Region.

Mr. Elder was actively involved in the Washington community.
He served as president of the YMCA board. He was one of the Washington Community Theater's
original board members. He served on the Washington Public Library Board for many years.

Mr. Elder supported the Washington Humane Society and the Washington County Conservation Board.
He received a Friend of Education Award in 1992.
He was also awarded the Washington Rotary Club Outstanding Citizenship Award for his service to the community.

Mr. Elder was also active in the Community Theater, where he appeared as an actor in many local productions.
He directed other productions, and wrote a play, "A Stranger Comes to Cottonwood."
which was performed at the theater. He also performed in several productions on a riverboat theater in Canton. Mo.
He was a loyal supporter of the Washington High School drama department.

Mr. Elder was also a writer who published a series of books after his retirement from The Evening Journal.
Mr. Elder is the last of his immediate family.
He was preceded in death by his parents', and his wife, Mable, in 1990.

Most of this is a reprint from the Washington newspaper.
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