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Location: Vancouver, WA USA
|Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:56 pm Post subject: Battle of Kings Mountain
|Library of Congress book entry:
Draper, Lyman Copeland, 1815-1891.
King's Mountain and its heroes; history of the battle of
King's Mountain, October 7th, 1780, and the events which led to it.
[Spartanburg, S.C., Reprint Co., 1967]
612 p. illus., map, plan, ports. 22 cm.
Title page includes original imprint: Cincinnati, P. G. Thomson, 1881.
Subjects: Kings Mountain, Battle of, S.C., 1780.
Series: North Carolina heritage series no. 5
LC Classification: F251 .N87 no. 5
Dewey Class No.: 973.33/6
Maps, History of Kings Mountain:
..."Col. Shelby also convinced Col. William Campbell, commander of the county militia in neighboring Washington
County, Virginia, to join him and Sevier on 25 Sep 1780 at Watauga, the time and place they had appointed for their
rendevous. Also "overmountain" at the time were Cols. Charles McDowell and Andrew Hampton and their
militiamen (from Burke and Rutherford Counties, North Carolina, respectively), and when the five county militias
assembled on the 25th, they were over 1,000 strong. The following day they began their march across the
mountains, and on September 30th met up with Cols. Benjamin Cleveland and Joseph Winston and their 350
militiamen from Wilkes and Surry Counties, North Carolina (respectively), bringing their total to almost 1,400. (5) "
From: Vicki Beard Thompson's WorldConnect webpage:
Robert ELDER, b. 1760 York Co PA:
Robert ELDER [b.1760 York Co, PA]
He served in the Revolutionary War and fought at Kings Mountain. He
wrote a letter which was printed in the book "King's Mountain and
It's Heroes: History of the Battle of King's Mountain October 7th,
1780, and the Events Which Led To It" by Lyman C. Draper.
The letter is has follows:
Robert Elder, April 2, 1823, certifies: That I was a
volunteer of the regiment commanded by Colonel William Campbell, in
the action, fought upon King's Mountain, on the seventh day of
October, in the year 1780, and do hereby declare, that I never saw
Colonel Campbell on the field of battle after the first onset of the
action, until the surrender of the enemy. I also declare, that I
often saw Colonel Isaac Shelby endeavoring to animate our men, and
particularly at the time of the battle when the enemy charged our
lines, and drove us down the mountain, f rom one hundred and fifty to
two hundred yards, or upwards. I both saw and heard Colonel Shelby
make great exertions to rally our men, which he finally effected, and
turned them back upon the enemy, and drove them in their turn until
Robert served in his brother Captain James Elder's company under
Colonel Roebuck. He and his wife applied for a pension 25 March 1833
in Lincoln County, Kentucky. According to his pension record he was
born in York County, Pennsylvania.
Banff Scotland research, mentioned in Spartanburg links:
Spartanburg Troops (Spartan Regiment):
...John Elder, Thomas Elder, William Elder
SEVIER bio sketches in Draper's book, etc: (of Sullivan Co TN)
Overmountain Victory Trail Map (1 meg .pdf) includes Sullivan Co TN and Washington Co VA
Sullivan Co TN - near Washington Co VA (was included):
"Sullivan CO TN remained generally the same (land) from 1787 to the present"
WASHINGTON CO VA:
The Washington County Surveyors Record 1781-1797 [Now HOLSTON River on map of Sullivan Co TN] Reedy Creek notes
Page 367 - Robert Elder & James Elder, heirs of Mathew Elder, decd - 349 ac -
Commissioners Certificate - beginning on the north side of the
middle fork of Holstein River in a line of David Snodgrass's land -
by Woods corner - on Graham's line - November 25, 1787...Mathew Elder,
assignee of Daniel McCormic - 400 ac - on the middle fork of Holstein,
includes improvement of 330 ac surveyed on January 22, 1774 - actual
settlement made in 1769 - August 18, 1781
Evan SHELBY, Jr. was baptized 23 Oct 1720 at Tregaron, Cardiganshire, Wales., son of Evan and Catherine Morgan
Shelby, Sr. who came to the colonies about 1734. Evan Sr. died in Frederick Co, MD in 1751. Evan Jr. became a fur trader, was
in Braddock's Campaign (1755), served as first lieutenant to Capt. Alexander BEALL in 1767-8, and later held commissions in
both MD and PA. About 1773, he removed to Sapling Grove where he erected Shelby's Fort in what was then Fincastle
County, Virginia, and later Washington County, Virginia, but is today Bristol, Sullivan County, Tennessee. In 1774, he
commanded the Fincastle Company in Dunmore's War, and was at the battle of Point Pleasant on 10 Oct of that year. In 1776,
Virginia Governor Patrick Henry appointed him Major in the troops commanded by Col. William Christian against the
Cherokees. On December 21, of that same year, he was appointed colonel of the militia of newly-created county of
Washington, and in 1779, he led an expedition againts the Chickamauga Indian towns on the lower Tennessee River.
In October 1780, Shelby and his volunteer militia joined almost a thousand frontiersmen in the march on British
Colonel Patrick FERGUSON. The one-hour Battle of King's Mountain, at which FERGUSON was killed and the British
troups routed, is credited by most with having turning the tides of war in the south. "
KINCANNON: by Gary and Bev SHIPLEY
1. FRANCIS1 KINCANNON1 was born Abt. 1715 in Ireland,
and died 03 March 1795 in Washington Co, Virginia.
He married ELIZABETH SUMMERS Abt. 1740.
Notes for FRANCIS KINCANNON:
Francis Kincannon lived in York County, Pennsylvania.
On January 12, 1758 he mortaged his personal property and 100 acres in Manallen
Twp to Thomas Kelly for 16 pounds. He paid off the mortgage on April 20, 1760.
He received 114 acres in Manallen Twp, York County, Pennsylvania and 52 acres in
Cumberland Twp, York County, Pennsylvania in land grants before 1767. He later sold his rights to these land grants.
Sometime around 1769 Kincannon moved to Augusta (now Washington) County, Virginia.
He had a 400 acre plantation on a branch of the Middle Fork of the Holston River.
Francis Kincannon made his will on 3 March 1795.
He left his property to his wife, Elizabeth and their children. The will was probated on 15 September 1795.
(Source: Southwest Virginia Families by David B. Trimble. 1974; San Antonio, Texas)
VA Research by Ann Elder Brooks Poe:
Matthew ELDER and Mary KINCANNON:
Donna Logan's archives:
6. [Also from Ruth Burns]
Letter from Josephine Jurney,
16024 NE 26th St. Bellevue, Wa. 98008 - 17 July 1989.
In some old CFI cards , found Mathew
Elder son of Mathew Elder christened 13 Aug 1662 Londonderry Co,
Templemore, Derry Cathedral.
Also: Mathew Elder, son of Andrew Elder and Anna, christened 19
May 1703 same place as above.
[Templemore is just west of Londonderry.]
7. Ireland IGI, p. 8444 -- same information as #6 - also p. 8441 -
marriage of Andrew Elder to Ann Riply, 3 July 1701 at Derry
Cathedral, Templemore, Ireland. Probable other children are Ann,
christened 21 Nov 1699 and Elizabeth, christened 3 July 1701, both
at Derry Cathedral, Templemore, Londonderry Co."
Searching Google.com for TEMPLEMORE, DERRY CATHEDRAL,
found other references to records:
"The Register of Derry Cathedral (St. Columb's),
Parish of Templemore, Londonderry, 1642 - 1703.
Source: LDS microfilm #599241.
Vol. 1, A Register of all the persons buried within the Church
& Churchyard as well in the ould as new Church in the Citty of
Londonderry beginninge from the name of John Cole in the last
Register booke who was buried the...1642 as followeth.
- July 1643
- Robert, sonne of Thomas Flavell 20th
ST. COLUMB CATHEDRAL, LONDONDERRY:
Books: PARISH REGISTER SERIES
Register of the Cathedral Church of St Columb, Derry, 1703-1732
edited by Colin Thomas,1997,
Register of the Cathedral Church of St Columb, Derry, 1732-1775
edited by Colin Thomas, 1999
THIS IS THE OFFICIAL SITE OF ST COLUMB'S CATHEDRAL, LONDONDERRY
Built in 1633, St Columb's Cathedral is the
Mother Church of the Diocese of Derry and
the vibrant Parish Church of Templemore.
As you enter through the gates there seem to be very few headstones,
it's only when you get closer do you find that the majority of graves are marked by flatstones,
mostly from the mid to late 19th century.
Headstones, St Columb's Cathedral, Derry
Another photo from gateway:
LIBRARIES in DERRY:
Library listed in "Ulster Libraries" by Robert K. O'Neill
35 Foyle Street
Derry, BT48 6AL
M,Th 9:15-8; T,W,F 9:15-5:30;Sat 9:15-5
Linked via computer to the emigration database of
the Ulster-American Folk Park, Omagh
Visitors welcome, ID required. General stacks open, special collections
closed. Entire collection catalogued in machine readable form.
Located just outside the city walls.
Irish and local studies collections include some 15,000 volumes, 2,500
photographs and 2,000 maps with special emphasis on the west of Co.
Londonderry, including Limavady and Dungiven. Also local newspapers on
microfilm dating back to 1829, ordnance survey maps, and local history
Photocopying and microfilm printout available.
Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project