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|Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:42 pm Post subject: Ancestry of Lucinda Love Elder
|I am grandson of Lucinda Love Elder (ca. 1866-1933) wife of Joseph Samuel Robinson of Charlotte, NC. Lucinda's death certificate lists William Elder as father, mother unknown. Lucinda was born in Spartanburg Co., SC, had two sisters and one brother. I would appreciate her father's and mother's ancestry and where they came from. Best regards! Bill Robinson, firstname.lastname@example.org
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|Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:17 pm Post subject:
|In checking Ancestry.com for 1850 census I found these in Spartanburg:
Name Home in 1850 (City,County,State) Estimated Birth Year
Elizabeth Elder Not Stated, Spartanburg, SC abt 1830
Ellen Elder Not Stated, Spartanburg, SC abt 1847
Heleda Elder Not Stated, Spartanburg, SC abt 1841
James Elder Not Stated, Spartanburg, SC abt 1835
John Elder Not Stated, Spartanburg, SC abt 1835
Louisa Elder Not Stated, Spartanburg, SC abt 1843
Marissa Elder Not Stated, Spartanburg, SC abt 1845
Martha Elder Not Stated, Spartanburg, SC abt 1830
Mary Elder Not Stated, Spartanburg, SC abt 1839
Pett Elder Not Stated, Spartanburg, SC abt 1798
Polly Elder Not Stated, Spartanburg, SC abt 1810
Sally Elder Not Stated, Spartanburg, SC abt 1833
William Elder Not Stated, Spartanburg, SC abt 1810 (birthplace) South Carolina
William's details =
William age 40
Martha 20 (sic)
Polly 40 (sic)
Narcesai (spelling?) female 5
For 1860 I found these:
Name Home in 1860(City,County,State) Age in 1860 Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Gender
Elisabeth Elder Northern Division, Spartanburg, SC 22 1837 South Carolina Female
Martha J Elder Northern Division, Spartanburg, SC 3 1856 South Carolina Female
Joseph D Elder Northern Division, Spartanburg, SC 1 1858 South Carolina Male
For 1870 there were quite a few ...but there is a Lucy born qbout 1864. Here is that family's entry:
Post Office was Glen Springs
Home was listed as Courthouse Township
ELDER, Mary, age 29, born SC domestic servant (no adult male Elder)
ELDER, Lucy age 6 born SC
ELDER, William age 3 born SC
another William in the 1870 was this one:
Post Office was Spartanburg
ELDER, William 72 born SC
ELDER, Mary 58 b SC
ELDER, Narcissa 23 b SC
ELDER, William 16 b SC
The following are some notes on Spartanburg SC Elders. They may be more helpful later in your research.
1790 SOUTH CAROLINA FEDERAL CENSUS:
ELDER ALEXR SC SPARTANBURG NO TWP LISTED 1790
ELDER EPHRIAM SC SPARTANBURG NO TWP LISTED 1790
ELDER HAMAN SC SPARTANBURG NO TWP LISTED 1790
ELDER JOHN SC SPARTANBURG NO TWP LISTED 1790
ELDER PETER SC SPARTANBURG NO TWP LISTED 1790
ELDER ROBERT SC SPARTANBURG NO TWP LISTED 1790
ELDER SAML SC SPARTANBURG NO TWP LISTED 1790
ELDER WM SC SPARTANBURG NO TWP LISTED 1790
Clipping from a line posted on one of the Elder Message boards dealing with a line from Spartanburg:
1. SAMUEL3 ELDER, SR. (GEORGE2, ALEXANDER1) was born Abt. 1758 in
Spartanburg County, SC, and died March 14, 1797 in Spartanburg County, SC.
He married CYNTHIA ANNE MACKELVAIN/MCELVAIN/MCILVANE. She was born Abt. 1765
in SC, and died Aft. 1820 in Spartanburg County, SC.
Children of SAMUEL ELDER and CYNTHIA MACKELVAIN/MCELVAIN/MCILVANE are:
i. CATHERINE4 ELDER, b. Abt. 1779, Spartanburg County, SC.
ii. LUCY ELDER, b. Abt. 1781, Spartanburg County, SC.
iii. HAMON ELDER, b. Abt. 1783, Spartanburg County, SC.
iv. JUDGE SAMUEL ELDER, JR., b. Abt. 1780, Spartanburg County, SC; d. Bet. January - February 14, 1878, Eldorado, IL, Saline County; m. NANCY MARGARET PINNELL, June 13, 1808, Christian County, KY; b. April 08, 1790, Spartanburg County, SC; d. September 28, 1855, Eldorado, IL, Saline County.
This was posted to our sharing list back in 1999 .....
ELDER'S: Remember why this was started was due to the continuous "mix up" of the ELDERS from SC, NC & TN. Someone had asked before to have the deeds posted and we are getting there. "George Story's will, dated March 11, 1800, Spartanburg County, bequeathed "to my daughter Margaret Elder, negro girl Sall" (Brent H. Holcomb, Spartanburg County, South Carolina, Will Abstracts, 1787-1840 (1983),p.102)
"The ELDERS had heard of the hostility of the Indians, so they decided to remain for a while at the Campbell's Station settlement in west Knox County, where there was a fort for their protection. A few miles away at Cavett's Station a number of settlers had been massacred by a Cherokee war party in the fall of 1793." VKN
"After a time the ELDERS in Knox County made plans to move on to Kentucky by way of the Tennessee River. "The boat which they built for the trip was small and crowded. They would land at night and camp on shore. At Muscle Shoals where the big power plant is built, the river makes a horseshoe bend. As they ran the rapids the centrifugal force tended to throw the boat against the rock shore on the outer curve. The men turned to bow of the boat toward midstream and rowed with all their might to keep off the rocks. They descended the thirty miles rapids in thirty minutes. The encyclopedia says the fall is 134 feet in 37 miles."*
NOTE: Although the Spartanburg County Elders named above may have been related to Peter and Ephraim Elder who were also in early Spartanburg County, South Carolina, nothing which showed a connection was found in extant records."VKN
"By 1800 the families of John and William ELDER were living in Livingston County, Kentucky. John Elder perhaps died before 1800; the Livingston County, Kentucky tax list includes George, James, Mary, Robert and William Elder".VKN " Not the William Elder who resided in Jefferson Co TN.aebp. Mary was perhaps the widow of John, and James and Robert are thought to have been sons of John. James ELDER (1781-1847) is buried in Livingston Cemetery (now Caldwell County, Kentucky). VKN & aebp
"John's daughter Mary ELDER married a WHEELER. She was thirteen years old when her parents left South Carolina." Talitha (ELDER) Aaron, "Elder (no date about 1850) Her book is primarily about her ancestors Samuel ELDER (b.1790), Spartanburg Co., South Carolina) in 1808 in South Carolina and later migrated to Illinois, where he was the first county judge of Saline County. Talitha (ELDER) Aaron (b. 1876 taught school in Eldorado, Illinois, for many years." vkn Talitha (ELDER) Aaron had very few sources. aebp.
The 1810 census for Livingston County, Kentucky, includes Peggy ELDER, over 45, and her family and one slave. Petty Elder may have been the widow of William ELDER and the daughter of George Story. Two of William Elder's daughters were married in Knox County; Mary to George Mayes and Hannah to David Hill. William Elder's youngest son, Samuel C., settled in Gallatin County, Illinois. According to that county's census, Samuel C. ELDER was age 59 in 1850".
This posting from our email sharing list in 1997:
Samuel And Robert Elder
Samuel B. Elder, Sr. b. 08-06-1738 North Farnaham Parish, Richmond
Co.VA. d. 1797 Spartanburgh Co., SC. Will proven 1797/1798
Wife Patience ________
Children:Hammond Elder, Sr.
Samuel B. Elder, Jr b. ca 1760
Samuel B. Elder, Jr. b. 1760 c. ca. 1829 Decatur, Meigs Co., TN.
Wife Hanna _______
Children: Robert Elder b 02-16-1782
William Elder b. aft. 1783
Samuel Elder b. 06-22-1787
John or John S. Elder
Andrew Elder b. ca. 1790
Margaret Elder b. ca. 1786-90
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