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Alexander ELDER in Kincardine Scotland

 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:04 am    Post subject: Alexander ELDER in Kincardine Scotland Reply with quote

ELDER Y-DNA Kit #29820 of Mercer Co PA,
matches my brother's kit #10042 in the "FRANKLIN CO PA" Y-DNA group.

Another ELDER DNA relative, Melissa Shipley, has added an entry in her Ancestry.com Tree for:
ALEXANDER ELDER b. 1785 in KINCARDINE, SCOTLAND near ABERDEEN.

My previous notes for her relatives in Mercer Co and Washington Co PA
are posted at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/pa/WashingtonCoPA.htm
Includes:
"John Elder was born in Washington County, Pennsylvania....
His parents were Alexander and Polly Elder, natives of Scotland..."

Another ALEXANDER ELDER relative in MERCER CO PA:
1880 USA census:
Name: Alexander Elder
Home in 1880: Sandy Lake, Mercer, Pennsylvania
Age: 67
Estimated birth year: abt 1813
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's name: Margaret
Father's birthplace: Scotland
......

Melissa's TREE in Ancestry.com, with added entry in
"FRIEDL SHIPLEY FAMILY TREE"
by Melissa Shipley
for:
Alexander Elder
Birth: ABT 1785 • Fetteape, kincardineshire, Scotland [may be FETTERESSO]
Death: North Beaver, Lawrence, Pennsylvania, USA
at
http://person.ancestry.com/tree/26805695/person/26224515968/facts

1851 Scotland census -- posted on Melissa's Tree, has probable mistyping for birthplace
Name Alexander Elder
Age 66
Estimated Birth Year abt 1785
Relationship Head
Gender Male
Where born Fetteape, kincardineshire
Parish Number 168A
Civil parish Aberdeen West
County Aberdeenshire
Address 57 Causewayend
Occupation Day Labourer
ED 4
Page 8
Household schedule number 24
Line 7
Roll CSSCT1851_39
Household Members
Name Age
Alexander Elder 66
Mary Elder 35
Rodney Elder 16
***

My notes for Aberdeenshire are posted on Freepages, listing
some Alexander ELDER names, but not 1785 birthdate, does have a DANIEL and DONALD burial in location of Aberdeenshire:
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/Aberdeenshire.htm

Monuments in Aberdeenshire
DUNNOTTAR (4)
ELDER, Daniel
ELDER, Donald
ELDER, James
ELDER, Jean

Wikipedia
"Dunnottar Parish Church is a parish church of the Church of Scotland,
serving Stonehaven in the south of Aberdeenshire, Scotland."
and
Dunnottar Castle is a ruined medieval fortress located upon a rocky headland
on the north-east coast of Scotland, about 3 kilometres south of Stonehaven.

Searching for more about KINCARDINE PARISHES
Using the ScotlandsPeople government database,
I found a similar name for "fetteape" as FETTERESSO
at
http://scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Google finds:
KIRKTOWN OF FETTERESSO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirkton_of_Fetteresso
"The Kirkton of Fetteresso is a well-preserved village near
Stonehaven, Scotland. In the planning area of Kincardine and Mearns, Aberdeenshire,
this village contains many very old stone residential structures as well as
the Church of St. Ciarans and its associated graveyard...."

FETTERESSO CASTLE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetteresso_Castle

USING SCOTLANDSPEOPLE.GOV.UK
for
OLD PARISH REGISTERS - SEARCH ALL DATES - KINCARDINE
1 RESULT - Paid 1 credit to view:
You searched for: Surname: "Elder"; Surname Option: Exact;
Forename: "Alexander"; Forename Option: Prefix; Sex: "Any";
Date From: 01 January 1538; Date To: 31 December 1854; Parish: FETTERESSO;
Found:
1 29/01/1804 ELDER ALEXANDER
Father: DONALD ELDER
M FETTERESSO KINCARDINE 258/00 0030 0131

Using Paypal (7 pounds Sterling = $9.26 dollars) for adding 30 more credits
on the Scotland Government database, to search for more ELDER names in FETTERESSO:
at
ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk

OLD PARISH REGISTERS - BIRTHS & BAPTISMS
SEARCH for any ELDER surname, in all dates in FETTERESSO PARISH
RESULTS = 5 (View summaries for 1 credit)
(costs 5 credits to view each handwritten entry)
"You searched for: Surname: "Elder"; Surname Option: Exact;
Forename: ""; Forename Option (none): Prefix; Sex: "Any";
Date From: 01 January 1538; Date To: 31 December 1854;
Parish: FETTERESSO;
Found 5 entries:

1 29/01/1804 ELDER ALEXANDER DONALD ELDER/
M FETTERESSO /KINCARDINE 258/00 0030 0131

2 28/12/1829 ELDER DONALD DONALD ELDER/JEAN CLARK
M FETTERESSO /KINCARDINE 258/00 0040 0089

3 14/10/1798 ELDER ELIZABETH DONALD ELDER/
F FETTERESSO /KINCARDINE 258/00 0030 0093

4 17/07/1836 ELDER JAMES DONALD ELDER/JEAN CLARK
M FETTERESSO /KINCARDINE 258/00 0040 0159

5 04/12/1800 ELDER JOHN DONALD ELDER/
M FETTERESSO /KINCARDINE 258/00 0030 0108

Requested one Scan of HANDWRITTEN ENTRY (used 5 credits)
Transcription by Nancy Elder Petersen
for:
1. ALEXANDER ELDER
DATE: 29th Jan'y 1804
DONALD ELDER in LINKS of ARDUTHIE
had ALEXANDER baptised, with JAMES ELDER
& CHRISTIAN DUNCAN both in LINKS of ARDUTHIE

More about "LINKS OF ARDUTHIE" in FETTERESSO
From Records for Genealogists
at
http://ww.ancestor.abel.co.uk/Angus/Fetteresso.html
Includes:
.... "Testaments of Fetteresso people from the Register of Testaments
of the Commissariot of St Andrews, 1549-1823
for which the index makes explicit mention of Fetteresso"
Found:
A person has reference to residing in "LINKS OF ARDUTHIE"

Google search for place "LINKS OF ARDUTHIE"
-- Finds Tax list of horses for surname of GORDON and others
at
http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/historical-tax-rolls/farm-horse-tax-rolls-1797-1798/farm-horse-tax-1797-1798-volume-03/126#zoom=2&lat=1640.5&lon=1040.5&layers=B

Using Google for "Churches in FETTERESSO"
found:
http://fetteresso.org

address and photo:
FETTERESSO CHURCH OF SCOTLAND
OFFICE, BATH STREET STONEHAVEN
Directions with map

Also found a Genealogy chart for a JAMES SILVER family, with reference to
LINKS OF ARDUTHIE and "KIRKTOWN OF FETTERESSO KIRKYARD"
at
http://www.oznunns.com/newgenealogy/getperson.php?personID=I3144&tree=newgent

Includes reference:
James SILVER
Born 20 Jun 1810 Links of Arduthie, Fetteresso, Kincardine, UK
Census 1841 Upper Wyndings, Fetteresso, Scotland, UK
and
"Headstone from Kirktown of Fetteresso Kirkyard MI #401: (MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTIONS)
" 1855 to the Memory of JAMES SILVER farmer
- Upper Wyndings who died 2 Mar 1855 aged 74 years
also JEAN MURRAY his wife who died 17 May 1860 aged 74 years..."

Another reference:
Fetteresso (St. Ciaran) Graveyard, Stonehaven, Scotland. 274
The Kirkyard of Fetteresso (Monumental Inscriptions) Transcription No. 13.

Google for "St. Cieran" Fetteresso (with photo)
found
http://ukbeaches.guide/photos/uk-photos.php?photo=299456
"Church of Scotland. Replacement (built 1810-12) for the
old St Cieran's Church at Fetteresso, with a frontage modelled on Fetteresso Castle."
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Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:44 am    Post subject: Photo and Inscription for ELDER in DUNNOTAR CHURCHYARD Reply with quote

Using Google, I searched BILLION GRAVES for DUNNOTTAR CHURCHYARD
in STONEHAVEN, SCOTLAND, UK
Found their webpages with photos of headstones, indexed:
at
https://billiongraves.com/cemetery/Dunnottar-Churchyard-Stonehaven/173940#

Searching ELDER, found photo of one ELDER headstone with 4 names:
first entry:
DANIEL ELDER b. 1829 d. Oct. 1895
at
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Daniel-Elder/18394025
with statement:
"Grave information for Daniel Elder, located in the Dunnottar Churchyard,
Stonehaven, Stonehaven Scotland.
"This headstone image, GPS location and personal data
were contributed and verified by volunteers to provide
you with the most valuable cemetery and genealogy data in the world."
Same cemetery headstone photo with inscription posted for
DONALD ELDER
JAMES ELDER d. 1915
JEAN (no dates)
(Click SHOW MORE on each webpage to see same inscription)
"Erected in affectionate remembrance of DONALD ELDER
and JEAN his wife by their sons DANIEL and JAMES.
DANIEL their eldest son died Oct 1895 aged 66 years
JAMES died in 1915
bequeathing his estate known as
The Elder Fund for the benefit of the poor of Stonehaven"
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Nancy Elder Petersen
Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:13 am    Post subject: Another DANIEL ELDER in BALLYMONEY, N. IRELAND Reply with quote

ANOTHER DANIEL ELDER in BALLYMONEY, N. IRELAND
FROM DNA kit #132709 matching "FRANKLIN CO PA" group
Preamble to [Wisconsin] Elder family genealogy"
  "..A copy of my fathers birth certificate states the following facts.
     "My father, James Gray Elder, was born on the
      21st of July in the year 1868.
      His birth was recorded in the District of Derraw, in the
      Superintendent Registrar's District of Ballymoney, in the County of Antrim, North Ireland....
      "His father's name was Joseph Dickey Elder, my grandfather.
"His mother's name was Margaret Ann (Gray) Elder, my grandmother. ...
  "It was my belief that both my grandfather and grandmother were born in Scotland in the area of Edinburgh. ...
Enclosed with the letter was the certificate for the baptism of
Joseph Dickey Elder dated January 11th 1841,
and gave the residence of his father and mother as Culmore.
The father's name was Daniel Elder and the maiden name of the mother was Mary Reed."

BALLYMONEY and WISCONSIN info posted on my Freepages
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/WisconsinDocuments.htm
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Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
NancyElderPeterSEN@yahoo.com
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